Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @CosmoKramer Sweden was on this evening news not online websites where you can also buy coffee. But if you are keen on just believing online websites you can read the same information I saw on the Portuguese evening news also on the Financial Times or Reuters https://www.ft.com/content/46733256-5a84-4429-89e0-8cce9d4095e4 https://www.google.pt/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN22W2YC Please don’t insult people calling them morons or other names as that is in fact a troll like behavior and we can all disagree and still behave in a civilized manner. Fair enough, Ill try and refrain from name calling...but that’s a two way street. By the way it’s not some strange online coffee website its a data driven site: https://ncov2019.live/data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: Guys, There’s no need to name call. We can discuss this in a civil manner, and we all learn something from seeing opposing views. It’s actually a good thing. Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bismarck Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 Sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 At least here’s some good news....it seems like those testing positive a 2nd time shows the virus is possibly weakening and being “shed” People who recover from COVID-19, test positive again not contagious, Korean study suggests https://abc7ny.com/6199005/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Markee Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Doctors say coronavirus could be spreading through farts – but experts aren’t so sure https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11401962/doctor-coronavirus-people-spreading-farts/ Edited May 20, 2020 by Markee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) Portugal has been praised by the New York Times and even Trump recently called our President congratulating him on our response that basically was a total shutdown just a 3 or 4 days after the first Covid-19 case was announced. Everything has started to open this Monday but people are not yet comfortable going inside closed outlets. Even simple folk with only primary school education are saying on TV interviews that they are aware the virus is not gone so until they get a vaccine they will wear masks and keep their distance in order to avoid catching it and passing it to someone else. Super proud right now to be Portuguese! This image is of the Portuguese President at the supermarket yesterday respecting the distancing and with a mask getting his groceries. He refused a driver and to live at the Presential Palace because he likes his life at his local neighborhood and everyone likes having him around (not a photo op he’s like this always). Humble, honest and caring folk, this is Portugal 🇵🇹 Edited May 20, 2020 by Portugal25 1 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abi28 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: Portugal has been praised by the New York Times and even Trump recently called our President congratulating him on our response that basically was a total shutdown just a 3 or 4 days after the first Covid-19 case was announced. Everything has started to open this Monday but people are not yet comfortable going inside closed outlets. Even simple folk with only primary school education are saying on TV interviews that they are aware the virus is not gone so until they get a vaccine they will wear masks and keep their distance in order to avoid catching it and passing it to someone else. Super proud right now to be Portuguese! This image is of the Portuguese President at the supermarket yesterday respecting the distancing and with a mask getting his groceries. He refused a driver and to live at the Presential Palace because he likes his life at his local neighborhood and everyone likes having him around (not a photo op he’s like this always). Humble, honest and caring folk, this is Portugal 🇵🇹 This is what most countries are going through right now, most people are now educated about the virus, all you have to do is wear a mask and keep some distance from other people to keep yourself and others safe until they find the vaccine. Most countries are now opening up gradually and a lot of countries are opening their airport in June like Turkey, Italy etc I know there will be restrictions but it's really not the end of the world like some people make it seem to be. Leave it for the americans to turn everything into a political issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted May 20, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Abi28 said: This is what most countries are going through right now, most people are now educated about the virus, all you have to do is wear a mask and keep some distance from other people to keep yourself and others safe until they find the vaccine. Most countries are now opening up gradually and a lot of countries are opening their airport in June like Turkey, Italy etc I know there will be restrictions but it's really not the end of the world like some people make it seem to be. Leave it for the americans to turn everything into a political issue. Well the ones extending the lockdown are politicians, the ones being affected are the working class. So yea it’s political. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Abi28 said: This is what most countries are going through right now, most people are now educated about the virus, all you have to do is wear a mask and keep some distance from other people to keep yourself and others safe until they find the vaccine. Most countries are now opening up gradually and a lot of countries are opening their airport in June like Turkey, Italy etc I know there will be restrictions but it's really not the end of the world like some people make it seem to be. Leave it for the americans to turn everything into a political issue. Of course it’s going to be turned into a political issue...we have a major election in less than 6 months and both the left & right are using this as an opportunity to gain leverage...that doesn’t mean I agree with it, like I said, in a post prior, helping people and saving lives should be devoid of politics even if something may remotely help, it should be considered no matter whom it came from. I think it’s very good how Portugal/Spain/Sweden and other European countries have handled it.with the obvious exception of Italy...but we have skyrocketed unemployment now due to the imposed destruction of the economy...do you not think this will affect Europe? If we hit another Great Depression do you think Americans will travel to Europe for business or vacations? Nope. Then what will happen to the tourism $$$ that many European countries depend on?...So, you can brush off what happens here economically and politically... but the repercussions will no doubt affect you or someone you know and care about. In regards to the photo above, I think that good of him....I personally have not worn a mask when out in open air public when getting exercise with walks and hikes...but I do put it on when entering a business or shop...I do this to be respectful of the business and employees since I know they are in an enclosed location and in a tough and scary position both with constant fear from the media & the virus for themselves and it saddens me when I see young employees at the grocery store and elderly shoppers with the look of anxiety and fear frozen on their faces so if it helps to just ease their mind I have no issue with this policy...but once I walk out I remove the mask for my own health sake, oxygen is vital after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: Well the ones extending the lockdown are politicians, the ones being affected are the working class. So yea it’s political. Exactly! If all of a sudden the paychecks of the First responders stopped coming...and that of the state and local gov employees as well...the politicians would be running for the hills to their bunkers and things would be opened up real quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Portugal25 said: Portugal has been praised by the New York Times and even Trump recently called our President congratulating him on our response that basically was a total shutdown just a 3 or 4 days after the first Covid-19 case was announced. Everything has started to open this Monday but people are not yet comfortable going inside closed outlets. Even simple folk with only primary school education are saying on TV interviews that they are aware the virus is not gone so until they get a vaccine they will wear masks and keep their distance in order to avoid catching it and passing it to someone else. Super proud right now to be Portuguese! This image is of the Portuguese President at the supermarket yesterday respecting the distancing and with a mask getting his groceries. He refused a driver and to live at the Presential Palace because he likes his life at his local neighborhood and everyone likes having him around (not a photo op he’s like this always). Humble, honest and caring folk, this is Portugal 🇵🇹 Every Portuguese person I have met in person has been super kind and extremely helpful. Can’t wait to visit your beautiful country one day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted May 20, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said: Of course it’s going to be turned into a political issue...we have a major election in less than 6 months and both the left & right are using this as an opportunity to gain leverage...that doesn’t mean I agree with it, like I said, in a post prior, helping people and saving lives should be devoid of politics even if something may remotely help, it should be considered no matter whom it came from. This is the sad truth, whether we like to admit it or not. The actions they are taking are to ensure their "team" wins and not what's good for the people. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: This is the sad truth, whether we like to admit it or not. The actions they are taking are to ensure their "team" wins and not what's good for the people. It’s always been that way and will always be...no way of avoiding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bismarck Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 I think this will be my last post on this forum -- have scrambled my password and e-mail to make sure I'm not tempted to come back. Really can't deal with this place anymore and will be going the way of Spex and Mickey. Good luck everyone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abi28 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, bismarck said: I think this will be my last post on this forum -- have scrambled my password and e-mail to make sure I'm not tempted to come back. Really can't deal with this place anymore and will be going the way of Spex and Mickey. Good luck everyone. Same it's turning into a toxic environment with political debates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Legend007 Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 Stay back Bismarck , ur wisdom is appreciated .. but yeah I know what u mean .. that dude annoys me too , turned me off from the forum also .. even the profile pic , looks like the dude is a dik. Ugly bald dude finally got some hair and act like he’s a know it all . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Tbcruz Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 Theres a reason people say you should never talk Politics, Religion, and Money at the dinner table. Will the Coronavirus Affect The Hair Transplant Industry? 1 1st procedure (8-4-17) - Dr. Luís Nader FUE 1551 grafts. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/49351-1551-grafts-with-luis-nader/?tab=comments#comment-455985 2nd procedure (2-4-20) - Dr. Blake Bloxham FUT 1986 grafts https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55933-dr-blake-bloxham-fut/?tab=comments#comment-529401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted May 21, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 21, 2020 Guys, It seems you guys are turned off by the posts, I will move this to the off topic section, but remember you don’t have to click on the thread or even respond. Part of the reason why there’s such a divide is because people don’t want to engage in discussions. Now, name calling and being offensive is uncalled for, but discussing current events isn’t or at least shouldn’t be a problem. You can always uncheck the box at the bottom that says “notify me of replies” I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted May 21, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 21, 2020 I don't understand why people would want to leave the forum based on one or two threads that they don't like or due to one or two people posting who they don't agree with. The simple solution is to stop reading and posting on that thread and/or stop responding to the person you don't agree with if you get offended by anything they say to you. If you think that there is no possibility of anyone having any opinions that differ from yours than the problem is you and not them. If you get offended by a topic, but keep posting on the same topic then again the problem is you not someone else. Stop getting offended by everything. This goes for everyone. I'm not singling anyone out. If everyone would stop getting offended by someone elses opinion and stop calling each other names for no reason then there wouldn't be a problem. It always amazes me when the ones who get the most upset about how they are being treated are usually the ones doing the most name calling. 3 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Noodles123 Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 I'm all for honest debates, but disappointed that ad hominem attacks are allowed to stand and not moderated. The verbal abuse and name calling is so beneath this forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sean Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 -Virus is here to stay -It has screwed the entire world -People have died -Till vaccine is here, we are unsure and living with fear -Conspiracy or no conspiracy, it has affected us all negatively Reality is, it has messed up every industry Trump and others would not take a toxic drug as precaution to prevent it if it wasn’t as deadly as it seems. That malaria drug can even blind you as a side effect amongst other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, BeHappy said: I don't understand why people would want to leave the forum based on one or two threads that they don't like or due to one or two people posting who they don't agree with. The simple solution is to stop reading and posting on that thread and/or stop responding to the person you don't agree with if you get offended by anything they say to you. If you think that there is no possibility of anyone having any opinions that differ from yours than the problem is you and not them. If you get offended by a topic, but keep posting on the same topic then again the problem is you not someone else. Stop getting offended by everything. This goes for everyone. I'm not singling anyone out. If everyone would stop getting offended by someone elses opinion and stop calling each other names for no reason then there wouldn't be a problem. It always amazes me when the ones who get the most upset about how they are being treated are usually the ones doing the most name calling. I agree. It’s sad how easily people get offended and also project upon others their own assumptions, then they hypocritically cry foul when checked. I’ve said from the get go on here I’m blunt and honest with my comments/opinions when someone ask for any, and it’s always been in the vein of sharing/being helpful/being positive not suger-coating things and and I try to keep it unbiased as possible ...after all what’s the point of living in a bubble where everyone agrees with you and all the answers are the same...that’s dull and boring and doesn’t help anyone, nor do we learn anything new. I’m guilty of the name-calling but only after it’s been initiated first, does it make it okay, probably not. My engagement on this thread came from worry that this whole situation would harm so many people panicked with fear, my concern for the consequences of, in my opinion, the overblown actions of some leaders that has lead to tens of thousands of preventable deaths, preventable panacea, preventable loss of 34 million & counting jobs, the destruction of small mom & pop business, the toll on desperate elderly, the lasting mental health consequences, the desecration of civil rights and liberties...and it just shocks me how some individuals just kept wanting wallow and cower in fear and panic and death and just accepting it and at times defending it. I have found many positives in all this carnage...the focus on who the Helpers are and what they really do for us and how they need to be recognized and not just in an “emergency”, the other thing, I’m happy to see people in the real world helping people, being charitable, showing concern for their neighbors and acting on it....it shows that no, government can’t save us and keep us safe...we do that collectively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Panamera13 Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 10:49 PM, CosmoKramer said: 3. Regarding ventilators..it’s not “my theory”, you dolt. ad hominem should not be allowed on any forum. I hope @Melvin-Moderator sends the right msg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Panamera13 Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 12 hours ago, bismarck said: I think this will be my last post on this forum -- have scrambled my password and e-mail to make sure I'm not tempted to come back. Really can't deal with this place anymore and will be going the way of Spex and Mickey. Good luck everyone. I hope you stay and any ad hominem remarks are removed and doesn't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted May 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 21, 2020 @Panamera13 I truly hope nobody leaves this forum because I believe HRN to be all about free speach thus we can all disagree and still behave in a civilized manner towards each other and respect everyone`s opinions while making our points. Hairloss doesn`t target creed or religion so we are all on the same boat here and we should never forget that it was hairloss that brought us to this forum. Having said that I do hope people stop resorting to insults to state their points because that is just bad form. @bismarck I really like your posts regarding all subjects so I hope you willl keep me company at HRN. @CosmoKramer even though we are on opposite sides of the world and see the world differently, I really value your opinions and insights on HT`s and hairloss so hope you can tone down the politics and tone up the great HT reviews and advices. 2 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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