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  1. Ron there are tons of patient results for HLC at the italian forum BelliCapelli. HLC has Dr. Ozgur and Dr. Akin that are top level doctors but it`s not certain they will do the surgery because they have other doctors.
  2. Ron I am talking with Dr. Pekiner assistant, Alex to book my second HT. I chose Dr. Pekiner because he only has 1 patient per day, does the whole surgery with techs just to provide support and has amazing results posted by patients on the italian forum. Couldn’t find any other doctor with this price level and results. Also, I have limited donor area and Dr. Pekiner said he can take 2000 grafts from my beard plus 3000 grafts from my scalp. Pekiner started out in this field working with Keser and then for HLC during 7 years. He opened his own clinic in 2017 because people were going to HLC because of him. He is building a name for himself very quickly and already told me he will increase the prices in 2020. if I were you I would go with Pekiner or Keser.
  3. Melvin in Turkey they are relying in cheap labour from 20 somethings and Syrian refugees to charge those ridiculous all inclusive prices so I could never advise someone to chose a tech based clinic in Turkey. In Portugal it`s pretty much the same, my best friend did his HT in a well known Portuguese clinic because of the Doctor that runs it and he ended being operated by a Senegalese tech (results are average and I am pretty sure the Doctor would have done better).
  4. Dear CI29200 I am going to book my second HT and for me it’s all about having a world class Doctor doing the whole procedure and his technique. Also looked into Dr. Acar that started out by doing the whole surgery himself and criticising the many Turkish Hairmills where the technicians do all or most of the work but today Dr. Acar is also a tech based surgery. He just opens the holes/channels all at once and then the techs insert the grafts, Erdogan is doing the same and his latest results are not good. Doctors that do the entire surgey themselves can only have 1 patient per day. If you go to Erdogan or Acar or Cinik you will find maybe 10 patients having the surgery on the same day. The best results are due to the quality of the Doctor performing your surgery but it can help if he is using a higher quality technique such as Stick and Place or Direct Hair Implantation. Stick and Place: Doctor opens the hole/Channel and immediately inserts the hair. Direct Hair Transplantion uses implantors (Lion implantor being the best implantor available) and with implantors the nurses will place each removed hair into the implantor and then the Doctor will perform two steps at the same time: 1. open the hole/channel 2. Insert the hair into the scalp. Both Stick and Place and DHT will provide great results because a world class Doctor can achieve great results with any technique. I am going to do my second HT and I rulled out all Doctors that have technicians do the surgery but I also need a world class Doctor that is affordable because I will need around 5000 grafts. My search lead me to Kaan Pekiner: 2.15€/graft for Stick&Place with all manual FUE and does BHT from the beard to add density for 2.4€/graft. Dr. Pekiner worked with Keser (one of the best FUE Doctors in the world but charges 3,5€/graft) and afterwards Pekiner worked at HLC Ankara for 7 years. Check his results in this forum and the italian forum https://bellicapelli.forumfree.it/m/?f=64816590 Dr. Demirsoy also does the whole procedure himself and just has 1 patient per day. He charges the low price of 1.25€/graft but if you check patients results online you will find that several are complaining due to poor results so I rulled him out. Couldn’t find any other Doctor with this level of technique and results at a lower price level. Let me know if you find other Doctors with posted results that are doing the whole procedure themselves with either stick and place or DHT with Lion implanter, at this price point.
  5. Dear David, I am going to book my second HT and for me it’s all about having a world class Doctor doing the whole procedure and his technique. The best results are due to the quality of the Doctor but it does help if he is using a higher quality technique such as Stick and Place or Direct Hair Implantation. Stick and Place: Doctor opens the hole/Channel and immediately inserts the hair. Direct Hair Transplantion uses implantors (Lion implantor being the best implantor available) and with implantors the nurses will place each removed hair into the implantor and then the Doctor will perform two steps at the same time: 1. open the hole/channel 2. Insert the hair into the scalp. Doctors that use technicians will only open all the holes/channels were your hairs will be inserted and then the technicians will insert all the hairs. Both techniques provide great results because a world class Doctor can achieve great results with either technique. I am going to do my second HT and I rulled out all Doctors using technicians but I also need a world class Doctor that is affordable because I need at leat 5000 grafts (and from looking at your pictures I would expect you will also need between 4000 to 5000 grafts). My search lead me to Kaan Pekiner: 2.15€/graft for Stick&Place with all manual FUE and does BHT from the beard to add density for 2.4€/graft. Dr. Pekiner worked with Keser who is one of the best FUE Doctors in the world but charges 3,5€/graft and afterwards Pekiner worked at HLC Ankara for 7 years. Check his results in this forum and the italian forum https://bellicapelli.forumfree.it/m/?f=64816590 Couldn’t find any other Doctor with this level of technique and results at this price level. Let me know if you find other Doctors with posted results that are doing the whole procedure themselves with either stick and place or DHT with Lion implanter, at this price point.
  6. My search for my second HT lead me to Kaan Pekiner: 2.15€/graft for Stick&Place with all manual FUE and does BHT from the beard to add density for 2.4€/graft. Check his results in this forum and the italian forum https://bellicapelli.forumfree.it/m/?f=64816590 Let me know if you find other Doctors with posted results that are doing the whole procedure themselves with either stick&place or DHT with Lion implanter at this price point.
  7. Kinda copy pasting from another post but we are discussing the same here. I am going to book my second HT and for me it’s all about having a world class Doctor doing the whole procedure with a steller technique and the best price. Searched Doctors that do the entire surgery themselves with either stick & place or DHT that have a steady flow of patient posts showing great results and charge a price I can afford as I need 4-5k grafts. My search lead me to Kaan Pekiner: 2.15€/graft for Stick&Place with all manual FUE and does BHT from the beard to add density for 2.4€/graft. Check his results in this forum and the italian forum https://bellicapelli.forumfree.it/m/?f=64816590 Couldn’t find any other Doctor with this level of technique/results at this price level. Let me know if you find other Doctors with posted results that are doing the whole procedure themselves with either stick&place or DHT with Lion implanter at this price point.
  8. I went to Rahal in 2008 at a time when FUT was the way to go the get a high quality HT and Rahal was and still is one of the world best HT Docs. He removed the strip, stiched me up, opened all the channels and inserted the frontal hairline, the techs did the rest and the results were amazing. Don’t think DHT and stick&place even existed in 2008 and if it did it surely wasn`t with 0,6-0,8mm punch or Lion implanter pens. Also, it takes some time for doctors to get accustomed to these new techniques. FUE evolved a lot in the past 11 years to the point that it’s now becoming the standard in HT. Now we even have BHT from the beard to add density to the scalp something that Pekiner does for 2.4€/graft and in the US the top Docs charge 4 times more.
  9. You could have done much much worse than Asmed but for the price you paid you could have had a world class doctor doing the whole procedure and only seeing you for the whole day. If it was me I would keep the plane ticket and change the HT to Pekiner or Keser (3,5€/graft Pekiner’s was his assistant when he started working in this field).
  10. Rahal for me is the best FUT Doctor in the world and a amazing person. He did gave me a great price to do FUT again but for FUE he is out of my budget. Also I think he is doing FUE with techs the same way as Asmed but with much better results. You have to understand that Doctors that only open the channels and have techs do rest can treat up to 10 patients per day and place 5k grafts while a Doctor like Kaan Pekiner doing everything himself can only treat 1 patient per day and do a maximum of 1500 grafts. It’s not as profitable and some Doctors start treating patients this way to establish themselves in the market and then switch to tech based surgerys. Dr Acar in Turkey is one of these examples. He was a strong critic of the Turkish hairmills that have techs doing all the work and now he has a tech team just for DHI.
  11. I am going to book my second HT and for me it’s all about the quality of the doctor and his technique versus price. Searched Doctors that do the entire surgery themselves with either stick & place or DHT with a steady flow of patient posts showing great results charging a price I can afford as I need 4-5k grafts. My search lead me to Kaan Pekiner: 2.15€/graft (stick&place and does BHT from the beard to add density for 2.4€/graft) check his results in this forum and the italian forum https://bellicapelli.forumfree.it/m/?f=64816590 Couldn’t find any other Doctor with this level of technique and results at this price level. Let me know if you find other Doctors with posted results that are doing the whole procedure themselves with stick&place or DHT with Lion implanter at this price point.
  12. I read that Asemd is a tech based surgery and they don’t do DHI nor stick & place. The doctor opens the channels and the 20something techs insert grafts. I would always give preference to a surgery in which the Doctor is doing the whole procedure either with stick & place or DHI as it produces better results than opening all the channels and let them accumulate fat and blood during the time it takes the techs to insert the thousands of grafts.
  13. Would never pay 8US per graft when I could get a much better price with same level of quality. You live in the US so you’re just a quick flight away from Rahal that charges less and in Canadian dollars. If you want to save even more money without sacrificing results and don’t mind a longer flight go to Kaan Pekiner in Turkey.
  14. I am considering Kaan myself because he does everything himself. Manual extraction punch between 0,6m - 0,9mm and then inserts the grafts with the stick & place technique which means the Doc opens the channel and immediately places the hair inside (better results and recovery but gets the Doctor tired much faster). Since Kaan does not use a motorized punch to extract the grafts quicker (manual provides better feeling and control) and then does stick and place this means he can’t do more than 1500 grafts per day so If I do 5000 grafts it will be a 4 day surgery. The 3 best Spanish doctors Couto, Freitas, Lorenzo do the extraction with both motorized and manual punch but the main difference is that they are all using a implantor pen. This pen does both steps at the same time (open the channel and place the hair inside) this technique is called DHT. Some say DHT gets better results than stick & place but from what I read it only gets slightly better results if the doctor doing this technique is extremely experienced. This DHT technique much like stick&place, means you will be doing 1200-1500 grafts per day maximum (maybe more because these Docs use motorized punch) so a surgery could also take 4 days. Would never consider HLC because I have no way of knowing which doctor will be doing my HT. The others you mentioned are out of my budget but what I saw from them it was at the same level as Kaan Pekiner with the added bonus that Kaan does beard BHT to add density. The top 3 Spanish doctors really do seem to be among the best in the world but they charge more than Kaan and have a 2 year wait list. My search lead me to Kaan Pekiner: 2.15€/graft for Stick&Place with all manual FUE and does BHT from the beard to add density for 2.4€/graft. Check his results in this forum and the italian forum https://bellicapelli.forumfree.it/m/?f=64816590 Couldn’t find any other Doctor with this level of technique/results at this price level. Let me know if you find other Doctors with posted results that are doing the whole procedure themselves with either stick&place or DHT with Lion implanter at this price point.
  15. The doctor that replaced Ximena Vila is called Bruno Ferreira he has a website with his name. He does HT surgery in Porto - Portugal and charges 2,5€/graft. I can’t see any results from him online but maybe they will start popping up in the future Bruno Pinto is currently the best HT Doc in Portugal with his own clinic also in Porto but he charges 2.6€/graft (more than Ximena Vila) with a busy schedule (full until January 2022). Granted that besides him there is no other word class Doc in Portugal with his own clinic and many patient results online (in the spanish forum).
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