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36 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

The thing is...i posted here on this thread that the CDC guidelines for hospitals and heathcare workers to utilize in that they state that even if a person died of an underlying condition aggravated by the virus then the death should be counted and logged as it was directly from the virus...and that even if healthcare workers just “assume” someone had the virus and passed away they are to be counted as virus fact...and did everyone one of those that died get the conclusive test that they were infected? Doubtful...and this is the CDC that we should put complete trust in?!? 

Yeah here at the so-called “epicenter” it just feels boring, I see people out at the park out walking their dogs, with their kids, runners, grocery shoppers, it’s strangely peaceful (I barely hear any ambulance or emergency sirens), it’s seems that people haven’t felt the emotional brunt yet of knowing they may have lost their job permanently and that small business owners are not getting their promised funds, as if was all a lie to them. 

All that said, I’m optimistic things will start opening up again soon, and life will start a slow roll to normalcy and that the panacea was not as warranted as I had expected weekes ago.

Yes, there are difficult times ahead of us, the financial impact is yet unknown, as things begin to get back to normal. Will it be the old normal or the new normal? People avoiding dining out, or going to the movies, travel etc. I worry for the service industry, and countless other industries. 


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I just saw on the news that Rikers Island prison is paying inmates $6 per hour to dig massive open graves to bury countless fatalities in New York...they showed the work going on...WOW, it was unlike anything I have ever seen in this country.  

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9 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Yes, there are difficult times ahead of us, the financial impact is yet unknown, as things begin to get back to normal. Will it be the old normal or the new normal? People avoiding dining out, or going to the movies, travel etc. I worry for the service industry, and countless other industries. 

Yeah, and this will all depend on how easily convinced and manipulated people are by the for-profit media and how they obey.

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7 hours ago, gillenator said:

I just saw on the news that Rikers Island prison is paying inmates $6 per hour to dig massive open graves to bury countless fatalities in New York...they showed the work going on...WOW, it was unlike anything I have ever seen in this country.  

Yes, they are doing that, but I question the validity. 

Ask yourself, how did the city take ownership of someone’s loved ones that they can just dump them in a mass grave?...are their family members not concerned are care how their loved ones bodies are being handled like trash?...We are not in 1918, we have means to carefully take care of those that passed...how convenient this is in order to place more shock and fear into people seeing the drone footage they took and distributed to the media.

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52 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

Yes, they are doing that, but I question the validity. 

Ask yourself, how did the city take ownership of someone’s loved ones that they can just dump them in a mass grave?...are their family members not concerned are care how their loved ones bodies are being handled like trash?...We are not in 1918, we have means to carefully take care of those that passed...how convenient this is in order to place more shock and fear into people seeing the drone footage they took and distributed to the media.

That’s true, unless these are homeless people. I can’t see how their families would accept having their loved ones buried like road kill. 

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20 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

That’s true, unless these are homeless people. I can’t see how their families would accept having their loved ones buried like road kill. 

Exactly my thinking, deceased homeless people being utilized to push the fear-porn.

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And now certain politicians and unelected figures are making comments that people will not return to their normal lives until there is mass daily testing with “immunization cards” as proof to go back to work or go anywhere....I guess people haven’t learned lessons from 1930’s-1940’s Germany.

Just today the big tech titans announced a partnership to introduce platforms for “contact-tracing”...aka person to person spying...if you thought “social distancing” will be the new social ptsd for everyone just wait as they implement this to increase social paranoia...oh, and there goes individual heathcare privacy rights and HIPAA protections right out the window. Sadly, there  will be ignorant people accepting this and justifying it as necessary.

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On 4/10/2020 at 11:55 PM, CosmoKramer said:

Yes, they are doing that, but I question the validity. 

Ask yourself, how did the city take ownership of someone’s loved ones that they can just dump them in a mass grave?...are their family members not concerned are care how their loved ones bodies are being handled like trash?...We are not in 1918, we have means to carefully take care of those that passed...how convenient this is in order to place more shock and fear into people seeing the drone footage they took and distributed to the media.

This segment on the news did state that the surviving families had no choice in how their loved ones' bodies were being disposed because the funeral homes, crematories, and cemeteries are all over-loaded and backed up for weeks on end and not accepting any new bodies...so the surviving families had to decide whether to just let their deceased loved ones just rot and decompose or at least be put in the ground....further...the hospitals, nursing homes, etc., force the surviving families to remove the dead bodies from their facilities...they can't just let them lay around and fill up space they don't have....they also showed the countless number of refrigerated semi trailers lined up on the streets filled with corpses....there is also a shortage and backlog of caskets so families are also building their own wooden boxes....I would think that the city was getting signed releases from the families before burial.

It's very sad to say the least....

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34 minutes ago, gillenator said:

This segment on the news did state that the surviving families had no choice in how their loved ones' bodies were being disposed because the funeral homes, crematories, and cemeteries are all over-loaded and backed up for weeks on end and not accepting any new bodies...so the surviving families had to decide whether to just let their deceased loved ones just rot and decompose or at least be put in the ground....further...the hospitals, nursing homes, etc., force the surviving families to remove the dead bodies from their facilities...they can't just let them lay around and fill up space they don't have....they also showed the countless number of refrigerated semi trailers lined up on the streets filled with corpses....there is also a shortage and backlog of caskets so families are also building their own wooden boxes....I would think that the city was getting signed releases from the families before burial.

It's very sad to say the least....

I find this very hard to believe, I really think the media loves to sensationalize fear. I’m pretty sure more people died from the crack epidemic in NYC during the 80’s than this virus. I know NYC has a huge homeless problem, it sounds more likely that these are homeless people that aren’t identified by anyone. 

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1 hour ago, gillenator said:

This segment on the news did state that the surviving families had no choice in how their loved ones' bodies were being disposed because the funeral homes, crematories, and cemeteries are all over-loaded and backed up for weeks on end and not accepting any new bodies...so the surviving families had to decide whether to just let their deceased loved ones just rot and decompose or at least be put in the ground....further...the hospitals, nursing homes, etc., force the surviving families to remove the dead bodies from their facilities...they can't just let them lay around and fill up space they don't have....they also showed the countless number of refrigerated semi trailers lined up on the streets filled with corpses....there is also a shortage and backlog of caskets so families are also building their own wooden boxes....I would think that the city was getting signed releases from the families before burial.

It's very sad to say the least....

I know a few funeral homes needing capacity in NY.  Some of the bodys are in other mon storage rooms ac’d up.  Some need a cooled truck container $20k cost a piece.  I also know few families affected and with The whole body placement storage issues right about now, luckily some folks in the community were able to assist.  Hospital morgues are even over capacity that containers had to be brought in.  It is tragic.  

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6 hours ago, gillenator said:

This segment on the news did state that the surviving families had no choice in how their loved ones' bodies were being disposed because the funeral homes, crematories, and cemeteries are all over-loaded and backed up for weeks on end and not accepting any new bodies...so the surviving families had to decide whether to just let their deceased loved ones just rot and decompose or at least be put in the ground....further...the hospitals, nursing homes, etc., force the surviving families to remove the dead bodies from their facilities...they can't just let them lay around and fill up space they don't have....they also showed the countless number of refrigerated semi trailers lined up on the streets filled with corpses....there is also a shortage and backlog of caskets so families are also building their own wooden boxes....I would think that the city was getting signed releases from the families before burial.

It's very sad to say the least....

While this sounds plausible...I trust nothing the “news” says, left or right. I’m more inclined to believe those boxes being buried are anonymous homeless people (I have seen a huge reduction in the amount of homeless I see around the city)

 Interesting enough, today NY decided to add 3,700 claimed deaths to the death toll and admitted that they are using “assumptions” when logging deaths as Covid-19 on death certificates. The more the lines get blurred the less truthful information we will know, which is also sad.

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Just to add to some of the most ridiculous things that the media has put out such as the Ocean is full of coronavirus and that even being by the beach you can catch it as waves break into the site....how a tiger at the Bronx zoo got the virus....now they’re using more fear in the form of using essential male androgens as something to fear for your life by using hair loss. Here’s the link:

https://www.universal-sci.com/headlines/2020/4/9/male-hormones-that-cause-features-such-as-hair-loss-might-cause-more-severe-coronavirus-disease-symptoms

 

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https://www.fox5ny.com/news/counting-probable-cases-nyc-death-toll-soars-past-10000
 

Regarding claimed death Toll— doctors are certain they had it.  Problem is they died either in Waiting room or before they reached the hospital prior to being tested.  Bodies are treated as if they were infected due to symptoms.  Considering what happened in Italy and other countries and the reason why there was a surge of these particular NYC deaths all at once in such a close timeframe the probable cause was established due to all symptoms reported And x rays.  Theres too many conspiracy theories floating around.  My buddy is a critical care pulmonologist that is in a ward filled with covid patients In NY.  Including some of my other doctor friends.  Some of these patients were perfectly  healthy with no pre-existing conditions  and late 30s to middle age who, are in need of oxygen and respiratory measures, which come as a surprise based on the populations we are told this can affect. 

The rate and ease of spread and possible mutations is making it worse.  After so many days, the president acknowledged its danger and blamed/stopped funding the WHO.  Before, this was just reported like any old flu and not taken seriously.  Now, it’s a different ball game.  

I know folks that are infected in NY and NJ and it’s not a cake walk and nothing they ever witnessed or felt.  It is not a cake walk and definitely something to avoid and fear.  Best not to take chances when you know this was strong enough to bring on a quarantine.  Some stat comparisons do not matter at the moment because this is far easier to spread vs flu and other viruses.  Folks Quarantining even touching just the mail have died in NJ.  

I think some folks in California and other states that are less impacted, do not really know or fully comprehend the magnitude or gravity of this thing and think this is a fear mongering conspiracy if some sort.  In the NY/NJ area, this is a completely different story.  We took this lightly in the beginning too, right now, it’s a little bit different.  

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32 minutes ago, Sean said:

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/counting-probable-cases-nyc-death-toll-soars-past-10000
 

Regarding claimed death Toll— doctors are certain they had it.  Problem is they died either in Waiting room or before they reached the hospital prior to being tested.  Bodies are treated as if they were infected due to symptoms.  Considering what happened in Italy and other countries and the reason why there was a surge of these particular NYC deaths all at once in such a close timeframe the probable cause was established due to all symptoms reported And x rays.  Theres too many conspiracy theories floating around.  My buddy is a critical care pulmonologist that is in a ward filled with covid patients In NY.  Including some of my other doctor friends.  Some of these patients were perfectly  healthy with no pre-existing conditions  and late 30s to middle age who, are in need of oxygen and respiratory measures, which come as a surprise based on the populations we are told this can affect. 

The rate and ease of spread and possible mutations is making it worse.  After so many days, the president acknowledged its danger and blamed/stopped funding the WHO.  Before, this was just reported like any old flu and not taken seriously.  Now, it’s a different ball game.  

I know folks that are infected in NY and NJ and it’s not a cake walk and nothing they ever witnessed or felt.  It is not a cake walk and definitely something to avoid and fear.  Best not to take chances when you know this was strong enough to bring on a quarantine.  Some stat comparisons do not matter at the moment because this is far easier to spread vs flu and other viruses.  Folks Quarantining even touching just the mail have died in NJ.  

I think some folks in California and other states that are less impacted, do not really know or fully comprehend the magnitude or gravity of this thing and think this is a fear mongering conspiracy if some sort.  In the NY/NJ area, this is a completely different story.  We took this lightly in the beginning too, right now, it’s a little bit different.  

Assumptions based on certainty don’t make things factual, especially when the CDC guidelines even accept no testing confirmation, that’s not scientific, I don’t care how it’s spun nor by whom, it’s a slippery slope. I’m in the so-called “epicenter” Queens NYC, and it is not as chaotic as the national media is making it appear, I too have many friends in the medical field and yes, they are being inundated with more patients than normal, but there is no such thing a certainty with soo many unknowns.

Italy’s government is notoriously coruppt, I take their data with a grain of salt.

I am in no way a fan of this President, but the WHO is absolutely corrupt and are puppets for China, they heavily invested in Tedros and Tedros’ country to assert their influence and now they are trying to do the same globally. On this suspension of funding, I’m okay with Trump doing, until we know the full connection and WHO shows full transparency.

Your comment of people dying in quarantine just from touching their mail???? Are you serious?...that is definitely in line with the other bullshit fear mongering like I stated about about certain “scientists” saying the ocean is full of virus and a tiger cought a virus from a human ...where did you see or read this???

Took it too lightly?....the streets of NY (and elsewhere in the US) have been ghost towns for over a month now due to lockdowns and business closures...people here have been wearing masks and gloves almost the same time frame....go look at the video I posted above about the German Virologist staying that Herd immunity in Germany is working and people are developing immunity to it and the mortality rate is very low. 

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If the media reported as “Breaking News” on the daily statistical on the cumulative deaths from hunger starvation...suicide...mental health...domestic violence...unemployment...debt...lack of medicine...homelessness...substance abuse...crime...etc...as a result of this situation...I’m willing to bet the numbers would go higher and will most definitely go higher going forward, than true honest viral death statistics. But they won’t because it’s not newsworthy.

The claimed death toll in NYS of 10,000 is 1/20th of 1%....but let’s all panic and buy into the fear from the media and of each other, sorry, not me.

 

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2 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

Assumptions based on certainty don’t make things factual, especially when the CDC guidelines even accept no testing confirmation, that’s not scientific, I don’t care how it’s spun nor by whom, it’s a slippery slope. I’m in the so-called “epicenter” Queens NYC, and it is not as chaotic as the national media is making it appear, I too have many friends in the medical field and yes, they are being inundated with more patients than normal, but there is no such thing a certainty with soo many unknowns.

Italy’s government is notoriously coruppt, I take their data with a grain of salt.

I am in no way a fan of this President, but the WHO is absolutely corrupt and are puppets for China, they heavily invested in Tedros and Tedros’ country to assert their influence and now they are trying to do the same globally. On this suspension of funding, I’m okay with Trump doing, until we know the full connection and WHO shows full transparency.

Your comment of people dying in quarantine just from touching their mail???? Are you serious?...that is definitely in line with the other bullshit fear mongering like I stated about about certain “scientists” saying the ocean is full of virus and a tiger bought it....where did you see or read this???

Took it too lightly?....the streets of NY (and elsewhere in the US) have been ghost towns for over a month now due to lockdowns and business closures...people here have been wearing masks and gloves almost the same time frame....go look at the video I posted above about the German Virologist staying that Herd immunity in Germany is working and people are developing immunity to it and the mortality rate is very low. 

Regarding the person touching mail, she never left the house for a month and took quarantine seriously big time along with family.  Never stepped out,  the only thing she did was grab the mail without gloves and she passed last week in NJ.  They suspect mail as the only form of transfer in this case.  We’ve been told to clean mail and packages as well.  With this thing, anything’s possible.  Remember, when it first started it was like the flu or any other illness.

I will take a look at that video you posted.  looks like there is mixed stuff going on.  I am not even sure why they took in some patients transported from NYC to some Upstate hospitals if it wasnt that bad.  But you mentioned its not that bad in Queens as the media portrays.  Looks like there is a lot of unknowns out there.  The Veterans hospital is on tight tight control at the moment— i know cause i go there and they are all taking it extremely seriously and that is a federal hospital, not state. 

Are we at the APeX yet?  No one knows based on current tolls.

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Regarding the person touching mail, she never left the house for a month and took quarantine seriously big time along with family.  Never stepped out,  the only thing she did was grab the mail without gloves and she passed last week in NJ.  They suspect mail as the only form of transfer in this case.  We’ve been told to clean mail and packages as well.  With this thing, anything’s possible.  Remember, when it first started it was like the flu or any other illness.

I will take a look at that video you posted.  looks like there is mixed stuff going on.  I am not even sure why they took in some patients transported from NYC to some Upstate hospitals if it wasnt that bad.  But you mentioned its not that bad in Queens as the media portrays.  Looks like there is a lot of unknowns out there.  The Veterans hospital is on tight tight control at the moment— i know cause i go there and they are all taking it extremely seriously and that is a federal hospital, not state. 

Are we at the APeX yet?  No one knows based on current tolls.

How was it concluded that the person you mentioned “contracted” the virus buy the deduction of possibles is not scientific, it’s fear mongering intended to create more fear, headlines and doubt. My questions would be how old was she? Any underlying conditions, and medications? Flu & pneumonia history? Most all mail carriers I’ve seen wear gloves even before this circumstance, wouldn’t there be many deaths from that persons local home post office that manages her mail??...again assumptions are not scientific.

Yeah, it’s strange that they are shutteling patients around, when the naval ship and the Javits center and the Central Park temp beds are mostly empty.

Yes, I agree, nursing homes and care facilities and Vet hospitals they have to take it much more seriously as they are the ones most susceptible to any virus flu, pneumonia or coronavirus.

My prediction is, the numbers of daily deaths plummets next week.

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1) when you say the professionals and experts got the numbers completely wrong, and that they make these numbers up out of thin air... would you like the weather man to stick to his model of what the day will be like in a month and get it wrong? of course not. Models change day to day, week to week... thats what a model does. it shows you the most up to date information based on what we currently know. Surely a weatherman reports the weather as things change and everyone wants to blame them. Models and numbers have changed because ummm I dont know.. we implemented social distancing and canceled sporting events, and a million other things? You can't actually want them to stick to their numbers from day 1 to the end....

2) what were we supposed to do? let the world be open as it was and let this virus run up the numbers? but all you're thinking is.. the mortality rate is low, who cares, the healthy will survive. until its your grandparent, or your mom, or your dad, or someone you love and care about getting it and dying. What would you think then? "Oh damn this stinks. My mom was old and she had it coming either way..." Hell no. get tf outta here. You're so ignorant because it has not effected you, you would let the worst case happen to others. shame on you

3) its so funny to me that Cosmo is saying we cant trust the news, but then goes and provides links/articles/videos from.... wait for it.... the news lmao

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1) when you say the professionals and experts got the numbers completely wrong, and that they make these numbers up out of thin air... would you like the weather man to stick to his model of what the day will be like in a month and get it wrong? of course not. Models change day to day, week to week... thats what a model does. it shows you the most up to date information based on what we currently know. Surely a weatherman reports the weather as things change and everyone wants to blame them. Models and numbers have changed because ummm I dont know.. we implemented social distancing and canceled sporting events, and a million other things? You can't actually want them to stick to their numbers from day 1 to the end....

2) what were we supposed to do? let the world be open as it was and let this virus run up the numbers? but all you're thinking is.. the mortality rate is low, who cares, the healthy will survive. until its your grandparent, or your mom, or your dad, or someone you love and care about getting it and dying. What would you think then? "Oh damn this stinks. My mom was old and she had it coming either way..." Hell no. get tf outta here. You're so ignorant because it has not effected you, you would let the worst case happen to others. shame on you

3) its so funny to me that Cosmo is saying we cant trust the news, but then goes and provides links/articles/videos from.... wait for it.... the news lmao

1....the models that were done were done to instill fear...are you that ignorant not to understand that we’ve had other outbreaks that faired similarly to what looks to be on similar path for this one, fatalities-wise. With that, the fact that the main source of numbers data is Bloomberg’s Johns Hopkins (to which Bloomberg gave $1.8 Billion, whom also runs a media empire and whom ran for president) is highly suspect, Bloomberg is an micromanaging authoritarian and I would not be surprised if their data is grossly inaccurate and skewed in order to collapse the economy create class war and division, mass paranoia, instill advanced medical surveillance...all which is succeeding. Comparing weather forecasting that relies on instruments that are utilized everywhere to a sole data source releasing numbers that’s even the CDC guidelines say can be added just based on assumptions on death certificates as well as much of the testing is inaccurate and showing false-positives......is moronic.

 

2.....Yes! It’s called Herd Immunity....many that may have cought the virus have recovered without suffering serious issues but the media is not focusing on that...and many have overcome the illness given anti-viral combos and yes, Hydroxychloriquine + Zpac + Zinc, despite what the bio vaccine makers and their news shills want you to believe that it’s a dangerous drug that doesn’t work, yeah ok, it’s a drug that’s been taken by billions of people safely over 70 years...that is off patent that works but can’t make Big Pharma as rich as a vaccine or blood anti body infusion can....so...it would have been much wiser to be proactive in finding those with serous underlying heath issues and giving them the medication and everyone else can go about their life without media brainwashing fear, and the chaos it’s already been created.....but I guess you happily accept givung up your civil liberties and accepting being told how to live your life, where you can and can’t go, what you can and can’t buy, whom you can and can’t be around, whom to be paranoid about every moment of your life thanks to the benevolence of contact-tracing, not having the ability to visit your loved one in the hospital if they are ill or they to visit you, not having a source of income because politicians unconstitutionally usurped power to control what  business can be open and essential etc etc.....oh, and by the way did you know that 80% of those that died died due to ramifications from use of the ventilators?????? I bet not. 

What makes more rational sense: 

a) temper large crowds, but let herd immunity grow (such as with chicken pox), those that are vulnerable with serous heath issues be isolated in their home and given antivirals as treatment or precaution, no shut-down or lockdown of cities, no destruction of small businesses, no loss of 22 million job as of today, no wasteful spending of funds on turning convention centers and stadiums into 2,500 bed hospitals that now are empty and not needed an checkpoints and mass inaccurate testing no mass paranoia no mass mental health issues no political games, instead use the funds and resources to build up manufacturing facilities to make the off patent drugs that are successful, build up to renew manufacturing of essential items back in the USA.....or 

b) create mass panic and chaos, force people to stay in their homes and threaten to fine them $1,000 they don’t have from being unemployed and arresting them for playing in the park, destroy the local/larger/global economy, destroy jobs, implement draconian unconstitutional heath surveillance laws, allow tech companies to spy on you 24/7 with your permission and health information to make you fear your family, friends, neighbors and that will be funded by your tax dollars, prevent loved ones from seeing I’ll relative in the hospital, implement and fast-track mandatory vaccination to all that will contain synthetic DNA , and everyone must carry a certificate of proof of vaccination if you want to work, use currency, shop, travel, enter any establishments, live “freely”...

Its hilarious to me how easily brainwashed and manipulated, people such as you can be, to be fed false information, accept it, be guilted by the media and politicians that somehow you will kill your family members if you don’t accept their protocol, then turn around and regurgitate the lies and talking points.

Shame on you for being so gullible and easily manipulated.

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It’s astounding to me how the lack of critical thinking and asking questions is causing so many to be so blindly ignorant..

Ask yourself, if the virus is on surfaces why are the “professionals” excluding food...because that type of lie would result is unprecedented chaos and death and not from any virus. Ask yourself, why are certain non-medical professional doing a media or blitz touting the need for their vaccine that’s in the pipeline and everyone must get it if anyone wants to return to “normalcy”, probably not because he wants to make 200-300 billion dollars more, nahh....Ask yourself why China controls the WHO and their corrupt puppet Tedros that they ignore any assistance or reference to Taiwan so as not to anger Xi? Ask, who funded the viral lab in Wuhan?

Theres plenty more but no point in continuing because ignorant brainwashed sheep will accept perpetual fear and not do their own thinking and research.

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WHO is so corrupt, not only did they say “masks” were not necessary, but they also claimed the virus wasn’t airborne. They got it abysmally wrong. They need to be de-funded ASAP. 

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13 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

WHO is so corrupt, not only did they say “masks” were not necessary, but they also claimed the virus wasn’t airborne. They got it abysmally wrong. They need to be de-funded ASAP. 

Yup! There’s not much that I agree with with this president but I’m glad he’s suspended funding, Tedros is a puppet for Xi and the amount of praise and propaganda he spews at his updates are astounding, he and all of the WHO must be investigated. The UN as well, for that matter...they lost all credibility with me when they place countries to head committees on human rights, that commit some heinous acts against human rights. I’ve been to the UN several times and the elitist snobbery is hilarious.

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