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Any progress update for the 7th month?

Looks very well done. Some questions for you: 1. How old are you? 2. Was the 3,200 grafts all done in a 1 day procedure? 3. What did the Dr tell you your total donor capacity was? 4. Did you stay at the new clinic overnight or at the hotel? thanks and good luck!

That would be hilarious tho...make everyone wait a year just to wait more. 😂

No, I dont think it’s a typo, OP is getting another ht procedure done and setup thread to chronicle his forthcoming progress. @DEB1982 can you clarify?

Looks very good for only 3-months, and not having it completely shed, lucky you! 👍

Yes, you do sound silly thinking you won’t see more new growth at only 4-months. Its also silly to compare yourself to someone else, just relax, don’t micro analyze it every day and let the go through it’s course, your progress looks good so far.

Just curious, which clinic do you work for and/or getting compensation for, for posting questionably negative posts on every Erdogan thread? Because it’s pretty obvious you have an unhelpful bias.

What did you look like before the procedure, and at months 3 & 4 post-procedure?...you should post photos of those as well if you want reasonable opinions/feedback.

Payam, This is exactly why the full 18-months or more is needed to wait an see, and give your scalp an ample amount of time to completely recover if there is something physiologically off. I’m glad that you see this point that there may be a possibility that a 2nd surgery even in the best hands could still be off or fail. It’s definitely something very critical to consider before spending thousands of $$ more on a 2nd HT. Im still pulling for you, that you get a better improvement in the following months.

Good coverage and growth for under 7-months!

@benji2014 Hope you demand your surgeon give you some proper honest answers when you meet with him and offers you a good solution/options for you to consider, it is definitely a sub-par result for which you paid for better, and that sucks, but in my opinion it doesn’t look at all like that only 150 or so grafts survived... Looking forward to your update on what the doctor assesses. Congrats on your impending fatherhood! Good Luck!

@JeanLDD 1. You do NOT know for sure “barely a few hundred grafts grew”, yes, it’s not good density as I’ve said a couple of times and that I would not be happy,, but you’re assuming once again even before knowing the clinic or doctor or an up close assessment by OP’s own doctor. If there was variable not on the part of the doctor that contributed to the low yeild and a touch-up with 1,000 or many more grafts was agreed upon, I, of course would want OP to get it done for free, but, if a doctor offers a discount that’s not something I’m completely against. 2. So...according to you, 1,000 grafts would not be enough to achieve desirable density in the temporal & hairline region that OP seeks....LOL....not even from a prime surgeon I guess...lol...I bet there are no photos on this forum of 1,000 grafts producing good density on a similar hair pattern as OP’s, yup. 3. Your assumption in blaming the clinic in OP’s case here without full review.....BUT...NOT ASMED (which is YOUR clinic) in your comments on Payams case...again LOL. (I agree, and always believed, if not happy which a clinic/doctor from sub-par results then best thing to do is research and seek a better doctor, I’ve always said that In many various posts I’ve commented on on here....but AFTER the procedure has been given time to mature and with final assessment) 4. I am not so sensitive with having my comment or opinion rejected, I’m cool with it and welcome it and thinks it important in order to be unbiased on here..... YOU seem to be the one with that sensitivity according to many of your comments in various posts and long-winded diatribes...especially in defense of a particular Turkish clinic. I have never said in any post “ABSOLUTELY DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS POSTER”..People’s opinions speak for themselves it’s not your job to suggest who someone should listen to or not and frankly that very very arrogant of you, Jean. 5. Where did I say that the quality was the same in the UK as those in the country’s you mentioned ?...I’m not aware of what country OP had his procedure in, you just assumed....I’m reserving a fuller opinion once OP discloses what clinic & doctor. 6. I love how you’ve assumed and concluded from OP’s photos that “yielded a hundred and fifty or so grafts out of 1700” without a close-up in-person examination...you must have super-human abilities...LOL.

@JeanLDD i wasn’t offering advice, I was giving my opinion, as the OP asked in his updated post. So...you “absolutely” would not listen to 1,000 additional grafts in my opinion but yours is 1,700 more grafts for his frontal area that wasn’t completely bald..LOL! Yes, OP, please absolutely do not listen to a rational approach, and do not give your surgeon the opportunity to assess and explain what went wrong, yup! Lol. By the way @JeanLDD, I’m not impressed by UK HT clinics at all, OP hasn’t said where he had it done so you just assumed. I will agree tho, much better quality in Belgium, Spain, Turkey (at a few select clinics). But to offer advice for OP to get 1,700 additional grafts and just go to said countries to do it without hearing his surgeons assessment and then a discussion on what choice is proper to go with is something I would absolutely not listen to, it’s jumping the gun.

Really nice, natural looking results for 6-months!

I wouldn’t be happy with this result for the amount of money you paid, but, if the surgeon offers you a free or discounted touch-up with an additional 1,000 grafts it could look much better. i agree with your position of not yet naming the surgeon until your 1-year meeting and assessment with him, giving him the chance to explain and offer you a solution to rectify the situation, it’s the right thing to do.

Definitely a great result thus far! Congrats! And...you don’t look your numerical age, more like 10-15 years younger! 👍

Now THAT is great customer/patient service! Very classy of H&W to cover an extra hotel night and some travel expenses. Things happen for a reason, and mostly have a silver lining when there are issues. 🙂

Thanks for posting! And thanks for asking and communicating your concerns about the few sub-par results posted on this forum to the Doctor directly, good to hear they are aware and take them seriously.

Bummer about your situation with Dr Diep. While I think he does great work, it does leave a sour taste in my mouth the way you were treated by his representative and their “customer service” , if a patient is committing thousand or tens of thousands of dollars of their hard earned money, time, etc, to a clinic and they can’t be even slightly flexible to accommodate a patient if there is a slight issue than I would think that it’s a bit arrogant on the part of the clinic / doctor....and there are other doctors that do great work and many more will be in the future, competition will catch up to him. Good Luck!

Big improvement from where you started....and more ahead! 👍

Progress looks on track. More photos is always better than less. 👍

And...if he did that doesn’t mean it did not succumb to his hair loss pattern and fallout and in the process of miniaturization over the course of the 20-months.

This statement contradicts the post-op photo @BoulderBalder posted, are large area was covered so it’s obvious that Erdogan does do lower density to achieve greater coverage and reinforcement.

From looking at this post-op photo it looks like the grafts were reasonably spaced to cover a large area and not really densely packing the hairline. ‘Could your lack of density be further hair-loss progression of your native hair over the 20-months and what’s left is this growth from these grafts?...

Early growth, nice! 👍