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  1. After speaking with Dr. Konior and Dr. Nadimi this weekend, Dr. Konior mentioned a study conducted by Dr. Ron Shapiro, an elite surgeon who actually kick started this community by performing surgery on @Pat - Community Publisher the study concludes that patients who start off with FUT first and combine FUE get more lifetime grafts than either technique alone. I thought it was pretty interesting, especially for those interested in maximizing donor supply. https://www.ishrs-htforum.org/content/htfi/29/5/local/front-matter.pdf
  2. I had my 2nd FUE Hair Transplant surgery done with Dr. Ferreira in Portugal on 03/06/2021 & 04/06/2021 (2 day surgery). Since it's not my first post, I won't get into much detail about why I chose him and how he operates. You can find more information on my first post from 1st surgery. On my first surgery I had done only frontal third, so remaining mid scalp and crown were still bare. This was of course the plan all along - 2 step approach. 2nd surgical goal - increase density in frontal 1/3, fill in mid scalp & crown and reinforce existing temple points. More info in here. Here's my before & after 1st surgery shaven. Footage of recipient & donor area here. (I do apologise for quality of pictures. I should receive pictures from Dr. Ferreira in upcoming weeks). It wasn't a huge surgery, just 2881 grafts, but over 2 days. During my last surgery I had over 50% of popping due to my very elastic skin & excess bleeding, so Dr. Ferreira wanted to take it slow this time and make sure it's very well under control. This time, he said it was only about 5% as he was implanting the grafts in stages - about 500-600 grafts at a time and spreading implantations at a time. First day we finished with 1231 grafts (3686 hairs & 2.99 ratio). Dr. Ferreira said my donor has very minimal to no miniaturisation. He actually tried to find one under microscopic evaluation upon my request but couldn't see a clear example. Day 1 finished. Main focus - reinforcing frontal 1/3 as well as mid scalp. Day 2 same process. 1650 grafts (4562 hairs & 2.76 ratio). Grant total - 2881 grafts (8248 hairs & 2.86 ratio). These are approximate numbers - Frontal 1/3 - 700 grafts, Temple Peaks - 100 grafts each side, Mid scalpp & Crown - 1900-2000. My overall thoughts and overview of the surgery in video format on my YouTube channel is here. Dr. Ferreira estimated I've got about 2000 grafts in the donor available for next surgery should I need. This of course should be done carefully in order to preserve donor. So far donor area looks pretty good. There's a lot of hairs in between extractions from both 1st & 2nd surgery. I did a small analyze with close-ups in here. Overall I'm very happy with the way it's been done and the way it looks. So far following my post-op instructions and hoping for the best! I'm posting a lot of updates on my YouTube Channel if someone would like to know & see more about my surgery and my recovery. I will post here pictures as soon as Dr. Ferreira will send them over to me.
  3. Hello my fellow Hair Restoration Network patrons (and the man, the myth, the legend Melvin!) , yesterday I had my procedure done with Dr. Luis Nader of Nader Medical in Reynoso, MX. I had a fantastic experience and feel I owe it to this community to share/answer questions about it. Backstory- I first noticed my hairline had changed for the worse when I entered basic training in 2009 at the age of 23, and had my head buzzed down. I started using rogaine, saw palmetto, and nizoral shampoo after I got out of basic a few months later. I believe these 3 slowed my hairloss down to a turtles pace, and at times halted it. I have a mixed bag or hairlines on both sides of my family. I maintained a NW 1.5-2 my entire 30's, which I considered a massive win. I have a background in college and a brief professional career in a sport which resulted in 8 surgeries and pain that I still feel today at 37. I started using Kratom at around 34 for pain management. From everything I had read it was a safe alternative to opiods, etc. I continued to take the Kratom for a little over 2 years before multiple side effects became impossible to ignore ( that's a real rabbit hole ), but my biggest issue was it seemed to speed up my hairloss from a very slow pace to warp speed. I weened myself off said substance and my hairloss stabilized immediately without any further intervention (even thickening up a little). However my hairline and crown took a real beating during this time and a true recovery did not seem to be in the cards without surgical intervention. At this point I went from a NW 2.5 to a NW 3 V which just didn't look good on me anymore. I used some fibers to fill the crown for awhile, but I didnt wan't to have to do this for the rest of my life, and eventually ended up buzzing it down to a 2, then 1, then 0. I look "ok" with it buzzed down, but I tried to live with it for a year and was never happy with it. I did not take finasteride during this period because of what I had read/horror stories on reddit etc, and because I was starting a family in my 30's and wanted to maintain fertility and not have any possible birth defects. Selecting a Surgeon- I like many of you probably know more about hair transplants, the science, and hairloss than I care to admit. I have been researching transplants for 10 years, and consider it one of the subjects that I can speak on with a great deal of knowledge. I seriously enquired with Dr. Konior, Dr. Panine, and Restore Hair Clinic (within an easy driving distance, and 2/3 are very well respected as many of you know). The prices were pretty staggering, and while I could have financially made it work, it would have hurt. I have a career where I make good money, not great. $20k plus is a hard pill to swallow for many of us. From here I started researching on this website, as well as a couple reddit forums. It was through these that I came across Surgery tourism and began investigating Turkey and Mexico. Turkey was out quickly when I broke down the logistics of cost, flight, time, vacation needed off work, etc. I then narrowed down my prospects to HMR (the cortez brothers), Neopal, Dr. Sara Salas, and Nader Medical. I had serious consultations with HMR, Sara, and Nader. I could never get anyone from Neopal to call me back after repeated emails and calls. I found Dr. Sara salas really delightful when we spoke, but her prices were pretty steep for what I was looking for (also endorsed and trained under dr. Wrassman). The Cortez brothers communicated well and the price was what I was thinking, but I didn't love all the hairline photos I saw of their work. By no means am I slamming them, I think they do great work, and am seeing more and more people sharing positive experiences they have had there. Finally I contacted Nader Medical and it felt right almost immediately. The receptionist/liason Brenda is a saint. She answered my endless questions promptly and was extremely professional. Every single person online that has shared their experience with Dr. Nader came away raving about him. They all spoke of how much he genuinely cared, how this was a passion of his, not all about the money, and the results always looked great. I found all of this to be true as well. Dr. Nader was warm, gentle, extremely knowledgeable, and had a very calming presence about him. After many emails, and calls I decided to book my appointment. The actual surgery and details- Flew into McAllen, which is right across the border from Reynoso, MX, where I stayed at the Days Inn by Wyndham. This hotel is a mile and half from the airport, and was a very basic, yet clean hotel room. Some might be a big snobbish to it (it's no 4/5 star), but through the military and sports I have lived/stayed in some absolute shit holes. This was no shit hole. I flew in wednesday afternoon, had the surgery thursday, and am currently in between flights on my way home on friday. Nader arranged for a very friendly guy named Aaron to pick me up from my hotel, take me across the border, and return me home after the surgery. Aaron has a fascinating life story, and was a treat to talk to on the way there and back. I have read all about the cartel and violence in Mexico, but never once did I feel unsafe. I have previously lived in southern Texas, and traveled extensively around the border, as well as been in various parts of mexico, which possibly made me feel more comfortable than someone without those experiences. I arrived at Nader Medical around 8:30 am, filled out a little paperwork, then proceeded to sit down with Dr. Nader and talk all about my hairloss journey, life, what I wanted, etc. It was a wonderful convo and lasted well over an hour. I wanted a conservative hairline that I could age into well, and my crown addressed. (I started finasteride a month prior to this with zero side effects). We drew multiple hairlines before we got it right. I might add that the facility was very clean, and had a very professional staff of maybe 5 techs. My zones were drawn, head shaved down further, and on to the extraction table for a few hours. They injected lidocaine into my donor area repeatedly, which feels like minor pinches, nothing to worry about. My head was completely numb, and they went to work. After that I was served lunch, with the options being tacos or a chicken salad. I chose the salad and it was very good. From here we moved onto placing the grafts while I watched netflix. I think it took around 3 hours, but I wasn't really keeping track of time, just relaxing and enjoying some netflix. I felt zero pain during this part of my procedure as well. From there I was cleaned up by the tech's, followed by some questions for the Dr, and talk of after care. I literally have zero complaints about my whole experience. I could not have been happier with Dr. Nader, his staff, and his work. I got a picture with the Dr, gave him a hug, and thanked him for everything. He gave me his personal number and we will continue to remain in contact. For those that care, Dr. Nader attended school in the US and Mexico, and speaks perfect english. The driver then took me across the boarder and back to my hotel (zero issues). I purchased a neck pillow prior to this surgery in anticipation for sleeping. It took me a little to find a good position, but eventually I was able to find a comfortable position and actually got some good sleep. I woke up this morning feeling great about my choice to go with Nader. Going through a hair transplant can be an emotional roller coaster, but I felt nothing but happiness and relief. Details of surgery- Total grafts- 2520 Hairline- 1290 Grafts Crown- 1230 Grafts Singles- 221 Doubles- 909 Triples- 1208 4's-217 (Dr noted I had a very good donor area with a bank of 7,000 or so, also commenting on the unusual amount of double and triple grafts I have. People who have cut my hair have always noted how crazy thick the back and sides of my hair are. I guess this finally came in handy! ha Cost- Total Cost was $5,445 US. I used the option for 10% off by bringing a cashiers check for the majority of the cost. Nader will reimburse you for a 2 night hotel stay of up to $250. I'm open to any and all questions, and will eventually post pictures. Thank you to all of you for posting your experiences, it got me through some dark times knowing I wasn't alone. Also thank you to Melvin. I think this guy is awesome. His story, transparency, kindness, and tireless work in this hairloss field has been awesome. I remember being in a very dark place over my hairloss a year or so ago, watching some videos by Melvin, and feeling like there was hope.
  4. I'm two weeks post - op. 28 years old for reference. My recipient area is now a lot darker than my native skin (almost purple), and it's creating a very unnatural and unfortunate appearance. It's obvious that I had a hair transplant as of now. I wanted to check with everyone here on if this is normal or if I need to do something immediately. I can't afford to have this appearance given I can't wear a hat to work. Has anyone had any treatments to fix the scarring / hyperpigmentation in similar cases? How early can you do this? Can dermmatch hide this?
  5. Dear all, just coming back from Turkey, I just would like to share my story with you over the next months. Now, 5 years after I had my first HT (FUT) with Hattingenhair, I wanted to improve my hair situation with a 2nd surgery. I decided to go for FUE this time in order to keep my donor as "homogenous" as possible, not taking all grafts just from one line again. My decision to go for Asmed and Dr. Koray was mainly driven by the overall good results I saw in several forums like this one here. Seeing that the amount of unsatisfied patients seemed to increased over the last year(s) made me a little sceptical, but my appointment with Asmed was booked and I decided to finally go for it. I won't describe the whole procedure of the three days as everything has been said by lot of members in this forum here - all i can say is that the organization was very professionell (also dealing with the current Covid situation) and I felt I was in good hands at all time. Attached please see some pre-op pictures both with dry and wet hair as well as picture right after the surgery. Last picture shows day 2 after surgery. Looking forward to sharing and exchanging with you!
  6. Hello all, First time poster here. I've recently started an Instagram account to chronicle my FUE journey with Dr Reddy in London. If you would like to follow my daily update pictures and videos please check out my account @myjourneyfue. Some initial photos attached. Thanks!
  7. Hi everyone. I wanted to share my crown transplant results because I know a lot of people are sceptical about them. I am very happy with how my crown has turned out! In total I had 3500 grafts transplanted in July 2020 in Istanbul, with 1200 grafts being for the crown. My doctor advised me to take both Minoxidil (Regain) and Finasteride too, so I do, although I have now eased out the Regain (he said to just use it for 12 months). I would honestly rate my crown a solid 9.5/10. The hairline is probably a 7.5/10 and my donor area I’d rate as 6/10. I’ve documented my progress since day one on YouTube, so check out my videos and subscribe if you find them useful Here’s my 10 month update video:
  8. Hi Everyone! I'd like to get your suggestions about getting a hair transplant. I've been researching passively over the past few years and I recently found this forum(1-2 years back), I'm okay with splurging, but obviously within reasonable limits. Could you please recommend me surgeons? I live in New York City, NY, and I'm open to travelling. Summary I'm 28 years old, and I've been using minoxidil since I turned 20(that's when I noticed early signs of hair loss). When I was 24 I stopped minoxidil for like 3 months and I lost a decent chunk of my hair. Then I got back on minoxidil and have been using it up to now. My dad is a norwood 7 and was between norwood 6 - norwood 7 when he was 28. My paternal grandfather is also a norwood 7, and I think his progression was similar to my dads. My maternal grandfather is the polar opposite, even at 60(age when he passed away) he had thick black hair with few white hairs. His hair was very similar to Ronald Reagan's hair. Obviously, I inherited from the wrong grandfather lol. Also, I recently found out(1-2 years back) that I have seborrheic dermatitis. But, I can keep it in control if I keep my hair short and shampoo frequently or if I have long hair then I need to shampoo daily. Sorry if I'm sharing too much, I just wanted you guys to have a holistic point of view. I've attached pics of my hair, both wet and dry. Questions: Should/Can I get a transplant. Basically, after the hair transplant will it look like I have no hair loss? How many grafts do I need(approx)? How many grafts does my donor area have(approx)?
  9. Hello I’ve been experiencing hairloss for maybe a couple years now, I’ve been trying minoxidil and tretinoin and derma-rolling barely started this month with the derma-rolling 1.5mm, been weary of finasteride but will probably try it topically before I try it orally the thinning in the middle is abnormal since it’s always been thinner since I was younger grey hair grows there so it makes it look a lot thinner it’s something I’ve never been able to figure out? The temples are definitely suffering hairloss. But with hair fibers I can pretty easily still hide my hairloss, I’ve been using minoxidil for maybe two months now so perhaps it looks worse right now because it could be shedding? My age (22) prevents me from trying a hair transplant but I was wondering if my donor looks ok? Any suggestions would help pictures are out of the showing in harsh lighting
  10. Hello everyone, I'm 27 year old from Toronto Canada. I'm currently in the process of hair loss and as you can imagine it's destroying my confidence. My saving grace is that people don't notice it until I mention it to them, but eventually down the road I know it's going to be quite noticeable. My father and my old brother are bald so I'm sure it's just genetic. My brother had the "shave it off bro" approach which some people recommend, but when I spoke to him he wishes he could have hair instead. I'm not ready the bald nor do I want to be bald(nothing wrong with that, it's just not something I want :(). I was using Minoxidil liquid solution for about a year now, but it caused my scalp to become slightly red and itchy, but I heard that was normal. About 2 weeks ago I switched to the foam solution and I don't have these symptoms anymore. I also started finasteride 3 weeks ago. I currently do 1.25mg daily. I cut 5mg into quarters. No side effects. Planning to stay on this for however long(forever?). I have started doing some research and thank the heavens I came across this forum. I wish I had known about this forum a month ago when I started my research. There are a few clinics I was considering, but looking at some of the posts of people who came went to these clinics and being disappointed may have saved me. The reason I'm making this thread is I'm extremely confused on what to do right now. I've contacted a clinic this is what they had to say about a potential hair transplant for me. "Having reviewed your pictures sent us, we do not feel that having a transplant procedure is a suitable option at this stage for you... It appears you are in stages of hair loss and it is too early for you to consider having a hair transplant procedure a solution. You have too many pre-existing hairs over your scalp. Placing hair in the areas that are still largely populated by your native pre-existing hairs could interfere with the growth of the pre-existing hairs and cause it to shed as a result. This is also known as shock loss and this is exactly what we are trying to avoid doing at this point. You would continue losing your native pre-existing hair behind newly placed grafts and would end up with an odd pattern of loss over the frontal hairline. We recommend you to not to rush into a hair transplant procedure, not to spend your money, time, health etc, and save it to have a hair transplant procedure in the the correct time when your scalp is more visible. Because there is no real treatment without side effects except hair transplantation. " I'm honestly happy that they were honest, but I was hoping it's something I could do before my hair loss becomes worse. I've attached some pictures I took in good lighting(I think it was good lol) and was wondering if I could get your thoughts on what I should do. I'm also looking to see if I could get some recommendations for clinics I could visit. I was hoping it's something I could do in the next 2-3 months as well. Another clinic I contacted that's greatly reviewed was HLC who are booked 3 months, but they said they can add me to the waiting list which is great. I was hoping to go somewhere in Turkey since they seem to be the most budget friendly with great results. I know in Canada we have H&W and Dr Rahul, but they seem extremely expensive for me right. Here are some information about me Location: Toronto Canada Age: 27 Budget: Up to €6500 Any help would greatly appreciated! Thank you!
  11. Let me preface this by saying that, even though I personally believe Dr. Cinik's clinic to be above many of the others in Turkey, it is still a hair mill. Meaning there is a good chance you will not have an experience like mine, for better or for worse. Take that with a grain of salt as I blog my own personal journey. So it began by contacting the rep via WhatsApp and all conversation was through that. I got a little frustrated with this because my rep would disappear for days at a time with no update which worried me because I was on a timeline. Eventually I picked the package, set the date of surgery, paid a nonrefundable deposit, and was ready to go. I opted for the “FUE Deluxe package” which was the one where the the doctor opens the channels. Upon arrival into SAW I was greeted by a man holding a sign for the clinic. He verified my info and a cab was on its way. Took longer than I expected but he picked me up and then it was off to the clinic to draw labs and an EKG. Tbh Im not sure why they needed an EKG (more likely to make it feel more legit) but no biggie. After labs I was on to my own hotel. I spent the first few days exploring Istanbul, but I’ll save that blog for a different forum lol. I had got my own hotel for the first few days then transferred to the designated one the day prior to the surgery. The hotel was comp’d and it was amazing. Very high scale with excellent service. The following day I was picked up by another drive from the hotel to go to the clinic. When I arrived I saw a bunch of rather young looking people in scrubs outside smoking and hanging out, which definitely increased my anxiety. I entered and was greeted by a woman who directed me to get the IV nuralock in place and then begin the process of consultation, shaving, payment, etc. The consultation with Dr. Cinik went pretty well. It kinda felt like he was just going through the motions instead of having a vested interest bc he jotted things I said down but I had to repeat myself about them later. He asked for pictures of my hair pre-thinning which luckily I had (I was wearing a pic in almost every pic lol) then examined my head to draw the new hairline. He drew it rather conservatively which is not what I wanted, but he explained that due to my level of thinning, they could only safely pull grafts to cover a certain area. I ended up agreeing as I expect my hair to still recede a little even with fin/min. I do plan to get another HT in the near future to cover up the crown and lower the hairline just a bit. After all that I was omw to the surgery room to begin the process. Let’s start by saying that like every single woman here was extremely attractive lol idk if that intentional or if that’s just the type of woman who gravitates to this field more, but it was nice lol. They gave me some pill that was supposed to be some type of relaxant, but I can’t remember the name. Either way, once I was seated and ready, they began the anesthesia process. I have a pretty high pain tolerance, as I have my feet and both my ribs fully tattooed, but this pain was next level. I opted out of the neddle-less option (HUGE mistake lol) and it was horrible. Like I’m not exaggerating when I say it made me cry lol. Also, the anesthetist who did the back of my head was horrible bc there were many points during the extractions where I could very painfully feel the extraction tool cutting. Luckily a new man took over for the beard area and the top of the head and forehead, which was super painful at the injection point but I didn’t feel a thing afterwards. If you can afford any upgrade, definitely do the needle-less anesthesia one lol In the middle of the procedure they stopped for lunch, which was provided, and looked like something you’d get served in prison, including the trays lol. But it got food in my stomach so whatever. I paid extra to have Dr. Cinik do the opening of the channels, so he arrived shortly after lunch to do that. From that point on it was smooth sailing. The whole process from check-in to check out was about 8 hrs. After completing the surgery I sat down with a woman to talk a little about aftercare and how to make it through the night before returning the next day to wash my hair and get final instructions for how to take care of my newly grafted hair. I ended up having 3700 grafts removed from my head and 600 from my beard. That night I was feeling ok. I popped one of the pain pills and popped the sleep-aid right before bed. They said I had to sleep on my back with the neck pillow provided, which I assumed I would have difficultly with as I never sleep on my back, but I guess the pills were really good bc I slept through the night just fine and woke up fully rested. There was a little bit of fluid on my pillow from the blood and anesthesia leaking out of my head, but that was expected. Day 2 I woke up, ate breakfast (great food at this hotel!) and I was off for the followup visit. The woman took me into a room to go over after care for the next month. They removed the bloody bandages, gave me my first wash, and then the doctor came in for the follow up. He said everything looks good and to follow the guidelines provided. After this they transported me back to the hotel where I stayed until they arrived to take me back to the airport to go home. Week 1 Sleeping has been the biggest obstacle. I was able to sleep on my back just fine the first night, but not at all since. I've been so exceptionally tired this past week but they only recommended sleeping on my back for the first week so I will sleep great tonight I hope lol. I have been conditioning and shampooing my hair with the stuff given to me by the clinic. A conditioning foam for the transplanted area and a "natural" shampoo for the rest of the head. I was experiencing some swelling but its gone by now. I've been experiencing some radiating pain in waves on my head but I've been ok with Tylenol to cope with that. No issues thus far other than that; just the waiting game at this point. Overall I’d give the process at Dr. Cinik’s an 8/10. Of course its way too earlier to tell if it was a successful operation or not, but based on my experience thus far that is where I’m at. I'll be updating every few months from here on out. Comment if you have any questions you'd like me to address regarding my experience thus far and in the future, and good luck to all on they own hair treatment journey!(:
  12. Finally did my hair transplant on 8th August by Dr Arika bansal..I was suffering from receding hair line from past 11 years... Total no of graft were around 1200 ..the procedure went smooth as expected....little pain during anesthesia ..afterwards no pain till date...head was little heavy though after transplant but was all ok in some hours....some swelling was there on day 1 and 2..not very little near eyes.....praying for a good result...will keep everyone updated on the progress....i have uploaded some before pics and den after pics right after hair transplant and latest one are on day 3 plzz comment and let me know howzz its looking after 3 days .....
  13. Hi Everyone, I am newbie to the forum and apologies if any of the questions are repeated. (I did searched previous posts but that raised more questions) Little bit about myself: 1. My Age: 33 2. My hair started thinning about 10 years ago and I used to use Minoxidil, 5% Topical Solution and Finasteride Pills. I took them for over 1.5 years and gave up on them as I noticed hair fall continued as soon as I stopped using them for even a week. 3. Since then I didn't took any care of my hair. (Probably a mistake but I just thought all solutions are temporary and transplantation is the only solution) 4. I have been thinking about FUE for an year now and I finally decided to go for it now (next few weeks). 5. I am planning to spend up to 15,000 USD. Questions: Premise for Q1: I am in halfway between Dr.Vories (South Carolina, USA) and Dr.Cooley (North Carolina). I talked with Dr.Vories 12 months ago and he seemed fine to me. He was recommended to me by one of my friend who went through FUE and his results are just "ok". After joining this forum I learnt about Dr.Cooley and I am in dilemma now. I reached out to Dr.Cooley and still waiting for response from them.(Its been a week now) Q1: Any personal experiences anyone can share which can help me decide between Dr. Vories and Dr. Cooley ? Q2: As I said before I am not using any medicines right now. I have seen some posts in this forum where ppl recommended using some medicines at least 6 months before transplantation procedure. Is it a good practice thing ? or Is it mandatory to yield good results? Dr. Vories didn't talked about this and was ready to go with transplantation almost immediately. Q3: For last 6 months I am being troubled with dandruff. Tried different of the shelf shampoos. (Didn't really took care of my hair properly.) Should I take some serious medicines to get rid of dandruff before going with FUE transplantation ? Q4: For some mandatory ritual, I have to shave off my head in 18 months. Assuming I did go through FUE now, can I have my hair shaved after 18 months or ever in my life ? Am I going to loose any transplanted hair ? Will the aftermath of FUE will leave any spots on my head which will look bad and make me never be able to have clean shaven head or even short hair ? Q5: Are there any other solutions that can help me other than FUE ? Thanks in advance for your time.
  14. Hello everyone, I underwent a hair transplant from 8 to 10.03.2021 with Dr. Kaan in Ankara and am now 8 days post surgery. As a silent reader, I have been following the posts here in the forum for quite some time and have been able to gather many important insights for my own HT. In this context, I would like to share my experience report with you in order to possibly also serve as a help for others. True to the motto: Give it back to the community! Background - 26 years old - Hair loss for about 5-6 years - Medication: Minoxidil (stopped due to severe shedding and irritation), Finasteride since 2018 Why Dr. Kaan? - Expertise in donor management due to my young age - FUE including manual harvesting - Doctor takes care of all essential processes himself - Very good results in various forums (here, Alopezia, BelliCapelli) - Comprehensive consultation and analysis of my situation including previous history - Friendly and informative communication via contact person Arrival and hotel - PCR test (Corona) and complete blood count in Germany - Direct flight on 7.3.2021 via SunExpress from Düsseldorf to Ankara - Pick-up by the driver went smoothly - The hotel "Atakösk" recommended by the clinic is at most okay, but the location (maximum 200m to the clinic) is great Clinic The clinic is well equipped and very modern. It is especially nice that you are the only patient and therefore really relaxed. It is also nice that you have your "own" lounge. There are various drinks and small refreshments available for the breaks. Planning and surgery Every surgery day started at 8 am. On the first day, after a pleasant meeting with Dr. Kaan, we planned the operation. We discussed the pros and cons of various options and finally agreed on 3100-3200 grafts to fill the front and the midscalp with a density of about 50 per cm2, which decreases slightly towards the midscalp. Afterwards, the hair was shaved and the procedure began. The anaesthesia and the injections are not that bad and were easy for me to bear. The only unpleasant part was lying on my stomach while the grafts were being removed. As far as the timing is concerned, in my case about 500 grafts were taken out and then there was a short break. Then the grafts were inserted. After this procedure there was a lunch break. The food during the lunch break is good and tasty. This procedure was repeated for the next two days and was altogether more bearable than I had expected. I did not need painkillers on any of the days of the operation. Only lying around for a long time is a bit annoying, but since I often fell asleep during the operation, this was not a problem on the whole. It is also important to mention that you have the possibility to contact Dr. Kaan after each day of the operation in case of complications. Aftercare The bandage was removed, the donor was smeared with Bepanthen and saline solution was applied to the recipient. Afterwards, Dr Kaan examined me again and told me that everything looked very good. I was also given the post-operative instructions and given medication and lotion. Afterwards, I was able to ask Dr. Kaan open questions. Conclusion All in all, I felt very well looked after. I was particularly impressed by the doctor's friendly manner coupled with his expertise. The fact that only one patient is treated per day is also a great advantage in my opinion. I have the impression that Dr. Kaan sets the highest standards for himself and does everything for a good result for his patients. I am now hoping for a good result and looking forward to the coming months. I will try to update this post on a monthly basis and post transparent and honest pictures. If you have any questions, I will try to answer them as best as possible. Greetings Tug
  15. Hi All, I had written a previous post explaining the generic stuff about my situation as a pre-amble to my surgery, see link below for the context: I had the surgery on 23 November 2020 and the below is my initial feedback /review. Organisation: Muzaffer, Dr Demirsoy's assistant, is the point man for the entire process. I cannot stress enough how much it helps to have a single point of contact for everything from hotel bookings to explaining post op care. He's a great guy and shows a keen interest in your wellbeing. I don't have experience of how other operations are run - but the Armamed process is certainly very smooth and well organised. Surgery: Dr Demirsoy originally suggested 3500-3800 grafts when I sent in photos a few months ago. However, on closer inspection of the thinning areas and due to selecting a conservative hairline (see pictures below) we landed up with only 3007 grafts. I am happy with the lower number of grafts, there will be plenty left over for another surgery if/when needed. Dr Demirsoy said that I should be good for another 2500/3000 grafts in donor capacity before compromising the donor sight. 🙂 Local anesthetic injections are not pleasant, but really aren't too bad. I didn't experience any pain during the procedure. I didn't get an average hair count per graft, but Dr Demirsoy said that there were mostly doubles and triples, with a few quads. Dr Demirsoy extracted the grafts himself, using a 0.85mm motorized punch. He also makes off the the incisions for the recipient area. His three nurses then place the grafts after a quick lunch. The whole process took from about 8:30-16:30 (including pre-op planning etc.) One thing I hadn't read else where and found quite interesting is how your head actually feels post op. It feels like you are wearing a child size helmet, which is a bit disorientating, but not painful. I think what everyone is after, at least initially is the photographic evidence, so please see below some of the pictures taken by the team: Planning: Shaved post planning: Immediately post op: Day 1 post op: I am happy to answer any questions here or with a PM. So far I am really happy with the experience. I will continue to post on a weekly/ monthly basis. Cheers.
  16. Henlo friends, I had an FUE procedure of 1800 grafts on Monday 07.12.20 at HDC with Dr. Maras. Should have been a week earlier, however I could not leave the UK at that time. Background So I have already shared some details in my initial post where I was considering several surgeons, but I'll collect and summarize everything here. I'll tell you guys "what happened", it's literally how Dr. Maras asked me to describe my hair loss situation. Started losing my hair at the age of 19. I had really long hair and a friend of mine pointed out that it's getting thinner and it's probably because I was lacking the vitamins to support a long hair. I went to my barber for confirmation, of course he said the same, so I cut my hair really short and realized that my hair was indeed a lot less dense and the hairline started creeping back too. Obviously I went through the denial stage, partly because I did the mistake of asking my family's oppinion. They all said I'm not balding, I always had thin hair, etc. I have no idea how on earth I was not considering the fact that apart from my brother (lucky NW1 bastard ), pretty much every single male on both side of my family is suffering from MPB like NW5-6 stages. So yeah, my biggest regret is not taking action when I could have reversed things. I did take some natural supplements like saw palmetto, biotin but that was it. Fast forward 4-5 years and again somebody kindly pointed out that I'm going bald. Again, I grew my hair out so it kinda disguised things, but a new short haircut revealed the actual damage. First of all, my temples were receded to NW3, but the worst thing is I had low density all over and a small bald spot in the crown area I have never even seen before! At that point it was pretty clear to me that give another 5 years and I'll be slick bald just like my cousins. But I also realized that I simply CAN'T be bald, first of all I don't have the right head shape and style and body (I'm fairly short and very thin) to shave it all off, and second, I believe it's something Melvin said once that having no hair just felt like.. it was not him. I had that same feeling all my life, hair is a part of my identity, and losing that would be like losing myself forever. I don't want to be so melodramatic, hair loss affects us all emotionally, but for some people it's a deep trauma, one that can not be erased as you look into the mirror every day, right? I've been depressed due to my hair loss, I spent a lot of time, money and energy in treatments, furthering my education in the subject and in between I had a life too, for sure, been in relationships, had friends, a job that I really like, but overall it was more like a half-life, one somewhat constantly crippled by the emotional trauma, loss of confidence and whatnot. If you're afflicted in the same way and just wanna talk, I'm here anytime. Treatment I started doing some research in desperation, came across a treatment-based forum called hairlosshelp (which is sadly defunct by now) and posted my story, got some honest advice and a few weeks later I started taking finasteride. Guys, this was like 11 years ago and I remember fin side effects were just.. I'm not gonna say non-existent, but I honestly don't recall ever reading anyone complaining of them. It was pretty straightforward back in the days: guys shared their story, got fin and minox "prescribed" and then posted some results 6-12 months later, mostly positive ones. In the last few years however, and especially most recently there's this new generation of hair loss sufferers who either wouldn't even dare touch fin or would complain of sides after taking a pill or two. "I can't take fin because it's causing constipation" was the "funniest" I've read. Anyway, I'm straying away from the subject and while I'm not saying fin side effects are not real, it's just weird these days "everyone" seems to be experiencing them. I can honestly say finasteride saved my hair, I've been maintaining my native hair since and even regrew some hair in the crown thanks to going down the anti-androgen - almost HRT - route. I don't wanna enlist all the things I've been using because it would require a new thread. Currently my regimen consists of fin every day, 0.5 mg dut every week or so, 100 mg spironolactone (decreased it from 200 mg after obvious sides) and topical minox (as well as low-dose oral) every day. Lately I've been considering the addition of a mixture of bimatoprost and minoxidil w/ dermarolling and topical dutasteride from Dr. Lupanzula. Last year I had an FUE of 1200 grafts at a clinic I'd rather not name (not a hair mill, more like in the mid-range but I should have went to a top clinic in the first place), they filled in my temples (I had some patchy vellus hair there, but was essentially a NW3) and the final result was a still patchy NW2-2.5. I estimate about 60% of the transplanted hair grew back. Pictures before the surgery with Dr. Maras These pictures were taken quite recently. Picture no. 1 reveals my main hair loss issues. As you can see, I've got diffuse thinning (most prominently in the frontal areas) and a very thinned out left temple region. The right side is actually okay. However if I styled my hair the right way (2nd pic) it could camouflage the thin regions in a way that somebody just recently said I've got a "full head of hair". Which is very, very far from the truth. For those wondering, it's not a combover, lol, you can see the top on the 3rd pic and the way it's parted. Next pictures reveal the crown and mid-scalp region, the latter is alright, however the crown is still a bit thin (although no longer have a bald spot thanks to meds). Last picture shows my donor area, well, it's hard to judge anything from that because I had long hair. RIP dear ponytail, see you in a year or so. Pictures after the surgery I'm not a big fan of pictures taken immediately after surgery where patients look like they were mauled by a lion, but hey, nothing gory means no glory, right? So I'll just share one. Now I analyzed my hairline in great detail, but even on this pic you can clearly see just how many singles HDC used, if you zoom in you can see the difference in the first 3-4 "rows" and the chunkier, bigger looking grafts behind it. Although I've read somewhere you can not always accurately judge this right after the procedure as some singles could appear thicker at their base. Anyway, my preliminary judgement is that the work is really, really good. The next 3 pics were taken yesterday, just ignore the face, pls, it's swollen, bloated, I look horrible. And lastly, 2 pictures of my donor area under different lighting conditions. Dr. Maras said that my donor area looks like it was never touched by surgery and I could get a few more surgeries. Sadly, I think he was very generous, I don't believe that's the case. Looking at my donor it seems to be mostly depleted, just too sparse, I could get maybe one smaller procedure in the future but that's it, I must maintain with treatment from now on. Also, for those saying that FUE is a scarless procedure, check out those FUE scars on the last pic. My heart sunk when I saw it, but hey, it's a trade off, I'm not complaining, but just be wary of this. Some people simply scar better than others, and while it's still not as bad as a FUT scar, but hey, that's the reality of HTs. I asked for a full report of the singles, doubles, etc. And will post it if anyone's interested. I asked Dr. Maras and he said the quality of my donor is really good (they could not detect any minituarization – I'm really glad HDC is checking this!) and was consisting of mostly triples and quads, which is great for density. I had only about 120 singles after extraction, so they microscopically discected 500 more just for the hairline. I think that's great and goes to show why HDC's results appear so natural. Any questions or comments are very much welcomed.
  17. After years and years of deliberation, denials, comb-over/unders; I've finally decided to take the plunge. And after talking/consulting with around 7 surgeons, picked Eugenix as the best choice. Apart from the amazing results they seem to consistently churn out, what swayed me was the fact that they seemed to genuinely care; as in not as a patient or a customer but genuine care. I could see that in every interaction I had with them. Prologue I never had thick hair but it was pretty good till 35. Then the decline started with receding hairline and thinness. This led me to fist be a silent stalker in this forum and research as much as I can. And then early this year, became more active as I had a (self imposed) point of no return set for 2021 Have to say thanks to @Melvin- Moderator @Dr. Suhail Khokhar multiple reps from other doctors and of course, @Abhinay Singh! And also, to the well detailed stories from @paddyirishman @Looking for HT and @Zoomster I hope to do the same for the community (And this post is a start) Had my initial consultation with Dr Arika Bansal that @Abhinay Singh helped coordinate early this year. She answered all my questions and on call drew a pretty balanced hairline and estimated around 2,500 grafts to achieve that. I wanted to be a little less aggressive and leave around 2,500 grafts for a procedure down the road (If I chose to). After picking Eugenix (Reason above!) Decided on doing this sometime in July and booked with tentative date as mid-July. Sometime in May I picked the dates and booked my flights. Thankfully the travel ban didn't affect me so there were no last minute cancels. We had one more video consult with Dr. Bansal (And well, thousand line chat with Abhinay with my never ending questions...) and with nervous excitement set out to fly the 16 odd hours to Delhi! Day (-) 1 Landed in Delhi around 9 PM and (Thanks to a surprisingly super fast immigration/validation process) was in the hotel by 10 PM. Eugeix had booked me into the Hilton nearby and the hotel sent the car. Both Suryakant and Anil called me multiple times to check and welcome me. Have to say, their dedication is amazing (Much more on that later). Got to the hotel and after a heavy dinner (United food sucks!) slept early to prepare for the day ahead! Also, Eugenix folks were kind enough to setup a blood-work appointment at the hotel (Had some tests I couldn't do in the US plus the COVID test to fly back) (To be continued...)
  18. Hello dear balding friends! A lot of you guys asked for it so here you go! My "quick" report I had a 2 day surgery done in Espinho, Porto, Portugal with Dr. Bruno Ferreira on 28th & 29th of January 2020. Currently resting in my hotel and since I have all the time in the world I decided to write this up - "for whom it my concern" Grab a cup of coffee/tea/whateveryouintothisdays and enjoy reading! A little bit about me 28 year old Caucasian male, Androgenic Alopecia, NW5a. Older Brother - NW 6/7, Father - NW 7-teen. To set up a base line, here's a photo of me before any hair loss (age 18). Never had extremely straight hairline (just a fact!). I've been loosing hair for the last 7-8 years, obviously not extremely excited about this fact, so when I reached NW3a i became worried. I started my research for "natural cure" and tried Detumescence Therapy (vigorous scalp massages - mechanical stimulation) for 20 minutes morning and evening 6 months straight (according to researcher after doing this type of massages you can expect to START seeing some results from 6 months onward), and then just gave up as I had big lifestyle changes all at once, so couldn't manage it. I don't want to go into detail of how it works, so google for yourself, but I strongly believe it halt my hair loss progression a bit. Years went by and I slowly started loosing more and more hair until eventually in December 2018 (that's when I began my research 24/7), when I was full blown NW5a I decided to do something about it. To keep it short, you can read my other thread on here. While I was doing some treatments, I was also heavily researching (when I say heavily, I mean - on the way to work, at work, at lunch brake, on the toilet after lunch, on the way back home, the rest of the evening, almost all weekend) Hair Transplant surgeons until end of November 2019 when I made my decision. More on that below. In this post I didn't want to go into much details (nobody would really read it for 3 hours straight!), so I kept it nice and short with my main candidates. Day 0 27.01.20 - Trip to Portugal. Quick flight from London to Porto about 2 hours. Afterwards got an Uber from airport and in 25 minutes already in my hotel 1 minute away from the clinic! Booked via Booking, quite cheap. Plenty of options. Easy task. Day 1 28.01.20 - Quick breakfast and 07:30 am @ the clinic. First impression - Super early! The whole clinic looks like closed except of Dr. Ferreira's part. In the building company Rejuvie are offering things like Aesthetic/Antiaging/Dental and many other treatments. However, don't be fooled! Dr. Bruno has his own part on ground floor where he designed everything himself from consultation room to OR. There's no other things going on in there but Hair Restoration done by Dr. Ferreira. I met his lovely team consisting of 3 nurses and Dr. Bruno himself and been directed to patients room, which is dedicated only for patients himself. They gave me a key of the door, so I wasn't worried about my belongings being there while having my operation. One of the nurses Ricardo (btw, this guys is absolutely amazing! He will take care of you every second you spent there and you will feel like you are a super star!) gave me a surgical "uniform" to change right away and shortly after Dr. Bruno came to see me to discuss procedure. Obviously while waiting I managed to snap a quick photo We discussed bits and pieces, signed needed paperwork and headed to the other room for a photo shoot. Dr. Bruno took quite a few pictures and we started planning hairline design. It took a good 15 minutes or so to finalise it. I was actually quite amazed of his attention to detail! Not a typical hairline done in 2 seconds like you see in many videos from Turkey hahaha After he showed me his final proposal I didn't even want to change a thing. It looked perfect! Now when I'm thinking it's probably because I didn't see any hairline for years , but his final design after careful examination of my facial structures was looking amazing. Afterwards we buzzed my hair completely, made some more pictures, Dr. Bruno took measurements of recipient and donor areas and we headed to the other room "on the table under the knife". As I'm writing this post I don't have any pictures made by Dr. Ferreira, so once I've got them I will update this thread. Procedure The Plan - extract and implant around 3500 grafts over 2 days Tools used - Lion Implanters, Motorised 0.85mm punch, Manual 0.85mm punch (and probably smaller, not sure, Sorry! ) (more information coming soon) Implantation approach - pre-made incisions + Implanters for the hairline and the rest using Lion Implanters alone (picture attached) Area to cover - 75 cm2 Future hair transplant area to cover (crown & mid scalp) - 75 cm2, approximately 1500-2000 grafts (more information coming soon) Donor area - around 10,000 extractable grafts, lots of multiple units (more information coming soon) Hair shaft diameter - 51 micron Picture below shows all extractions updated live by nurses on the screen next to the operation table. Now, it might look like a lot of grafts for such small area, but because my hair shaft is quite thin (~51 microns), I would need more hairs/cm2 to have great coverage. Everything started from Anaesthesia which to my surprise was almost pain-less! Dr. Bruno was using his fingers to gently massage the area while slowly inserting the needle and to my surprise that was incredibly pain-less. I asked him how is that everyone is talking about how the most painful part is anaesthesia and I almost didn't feel a thing, he replied "I'm just being very gentle". That's when I realised the difference between caring surgeon and money-making-minded surgeon. Anyways... Back of my head numb in few moments and we jumped right into extractions. The feeling of that.. Like a very quiet clippers. I kind of liked the way it feels hahaha (i guess I'm weird ). No pain. Dr. Ferreira used 0.85 mm motorised punch only because after examining my donor turned out a lot of grafts are placed almost in a straight line (e.g. 4 hair graft is not in a bunch, but in a line), thus covering bigger area, thus larger punch is needed. After all extractions been done we still had a little time before our food arrives, so Dr. Bruno decided to do some incisions for the hairline BTW selection of food was solid! Fish, Meat, Veg, Soup, Drinks, Dessert... I asked if it's possible to get Freshly Squeezed Orange Juice and turns out it was not a part of the deal, but to my surprise they got it for me! While extractions went like a knife through butter, Implantation part was quite difficult and it took much longer than expected. I had a lot of popping due to my elastic skin (damn you Detumescence therapy I guess! ) and excessive bleeding. Dr. Ferreira used "every trick in the book" (that's what he said haha) to manage the situation and by the end of the day everything looked promising. Post-op instruction and back to hotel... Had a great night sleep, 0 pain. Woke up just 2 times, so I used that opportunity to spray saline solution as per Dr.'s instructions. Day 2 29.01.20 - Arrival to clinic at the same time 07:30 am. Quick check up, donor wash and right into the action. Dr. Ferreira decided to change his approach to make implantations much smoother and avoid complications. The Plan - extract ~500 grafts and implant them immediately Total extracted grafts - 3611 Total extracted hairs - 9861 Total ratio - 2,73 Pardon me, I didn't make a picture of "Total" page! Hopefully will receive this information soon from Dr. Ferreira and will update this thread. Overall day 2 was sooooo much smoother! The new approach Dr. Bruno decided to take this day worked like wonders! Almost no popping and no excessive bleeding. Conclusion I was extremely impressed by Dr.'s adaptability to situations. Taking different approaches "on the go" to control the process. I didn't even realised at first that he was using manual punch until one moment I was like "waaaaaaaaait a second.. Something is different!". No sound, just pure manual rotating movement. I asked Dr. Bruno - "Are you using a manual punch?" to what he replied - "yes, in some places it's easier to get into with manual punch". The right tool for right situation. How about that? Anyways, here's some post-op pictures. I will keep updating this thread until final result. Also, once I've got a good quality pictures from Dr. Ferreira I will update that here. Please feel free give me your opinions! I'm super excited to finally get it done (especially the fact that I can see my hairline hahaha ).
  19. Hello everyone. I have been reading the forum for a long time and as a token of gratitude, I decided to share my experience of hair transplantation. I am 34 years old. I lost most of my hair from front and crown parts when I was a student. I have tried several and different medication and methods but the hair did not grow back or I couldn’t provide my hairs from falling out. So I decided to do hair transplantation. I spent a lot of time choosing a doctor since it is a life-changing decision after all. I searched for information on different platforms and different forums and I chose doctor Koray Erdogan from Asmed Clinic in Istanbul. I will try to write in detail about my experience. Consultation with a doctor Koray Erdogan at the clinic On Monday, 10th May I came to the clinic for consultation and preparation for the operation. In front of the entrance to the clinic, there is an automatic disinfection air passway, then they gave me a new mask. At this time during a pandemic, precautions are very important for me. I did a PCR test and the necessary analysis of an ECG, at that moment I felt absolutely safe and concluded that I was in the right place. Then I met with my patient coordinator, her name is Alina. She informed me about the operation. My coordinator and I went up to another floor to take professional photographs of my hair. Then we went to the doctor's office for a consultation. Before coming to the clinic, based on photos I sent online, the doctor’s estimation was 5000 grafts, during the consultation the doctor analyzed my hair and he recommended I continue taking finasteride and changed the graft number to 4000 grafts (1 operation day). The doctor said that we will do a transplant to the temple part, to the front part and the vertex. This plan made me very happy, I felt very comfortable and completely trusted the doctor. Then Alina and I went into the washing room, my hairs were shaved, the staff was very professional and very friendly. For the operation planning, I had computer and robot analysis, they do their job very professionally. I also met Dr Umut, he is an anesthesiologist. The doctor asked me questions about my health, told me about the process of operation, this meeting gave me the confidence that I was in the right hands. Then Dr Koray and Mrs Dilek came. Dr Koray drew a front line including the temple part ( I will share photos ) I and all the personal around really liked the line from the temple part (Dr Koray is a master of the front line and I was convinced with this). Then they took my photos with a special device (it turns out this device was created by Dr Koray), the device takes photographs from 6 different angles at one time. So the preparation for the operation came to an end. Operation day In the morning at 07:00, I was in the clinic. They prepared a cosy room for me and gave me special clothes for the operation. At 07:30 Alina came and we went to the washing room again, they shaved my hair again and we went to the operating room. The operating room is equipped with all technologies. In the operating room, they have different devices to measure blood pressure, measure pulse, saturation and also they opened an IV way. With the help of a small injector, they gave me local anaesthesia ( it didn’t hurt much). Then began the process of extraction grafts began. With the help of special technologies, I can keep track of the counted grafts. Dr Koray on the monitor showed how my grafts looked, talked about their quality. After the extraction, we moved on to the second part of the operation- incisions!!! I was again given local anaesthesia I laid there and felt absolutely fine. The doctor made incisions, it didn’t hurt at all. Then we moved on to the last part of the operation- implantation. It took several hours so I slept. The operation ended when all my grafts were transplanted. I was placed in the room to get some rest. Dr Koray made the necessary control, made sure that everything went well. This was the end of my operating day. Post operations The first night after the operation went well I felt just a little discomfort due to the positional restrictions but this is not a huge deal. During the first washing in the clinic, they washed my hair and gave me instructions about how to wash my hair by myself. They provided me with a medical bag with all the necessary products for washing and post-operational care. I didn't need to buy anything else I was very happy. I want to say thanks to Dr Koray and all ASMED personal for professionalism, I felt absolutely comfortable throughout the entire operating process. I will share information about my result. Thank you for your attention ( it turned out to be a very long text, but I really want to share all the details of my experience ).
  20. Summary (because this review is long): Today is the 9th day after the surgery. I am very pleased with the Dr. Diep and her staff (so far.) Let's start with surgery info: Surgeon: Dr. Diep MHTA Clinic at Los Gatos, California Surgery Date: 11/12/2020 Procedures (graft): FUE (1411) + FUT (1211) Myself: Asian in my 50's with NW4 to 4.5. Start losing my hair since early 20's. Never take any med, tropical, roller, special shampoo, or anything for hair treatment (just too lazy to care.) My hair never give me trouble at work or dating. Live in the Bay Area and 20 miles from Dr. Diep's office. Reason on Dr. Diep: I have been following Dr. Diep's YouTube channel for more than 2 years and am impressed with the results. I also read a lot of reviews here and I don't see any justification for me to travel during Covid to see other doctors. My #1 requirement is not to screw up. #2 is nature hairline with good density at the front. I actually don't give a damn about the back since neither I can see it in the mirror nor I talk to others with the back of my head. Anyway, I decided Dr. Diep is the best fit for me. Cost: I was first quote $17k to perform 2K FUE to fill the front during the zoom consultation with Dr. Diep. When I got to the office, Dr. Diep was worry that I would not be happy with the density and suggest to go up to 2250 grafts. Since I am not a 1%er, I would like to stick with my original budget (I also heard Divorce is very expensive.) Dr. Diep then suggested to fill my front with FUE+FUT for $17k. Since I actually was undecided about FUE or FUT, I liked the suggestion. The Day of the surgery: Arrived at 7:30am shape. The office is at the very nice part of the Bay Area and is much bigger than I thought. The nurse then had me to fill out a bunch of forms that I read two weeks prior (same time the full payment was due.) I then chit chat with Dr. Diep for about 20 minutes about the surgery (procedure, med, and time), work, and also family. Btw, Dr. Diep is younger than me and I beat him on having much older children. Felt good since I likely retire sooner than him. The tech then lead me to a large surgical room (end up spent the whole day there) and Pam the nurse came in to buzz the back, front and the side of my head. (Pro-tip: If you decided to go with Dr. Diep, just have Pam to buzz off all the hair.) She was very nice but I told her not to quit her day job. I was start dozing off from the med and kind of in and out of consciousness. Don't quote me but my surgery probably starts around 10:30am. I aware there were two tech + Dr. Diep when they were getting the donors. The only time I was fully conscious was having my Pastrami sandwich (good), Fries (not good), and Apple juice (best I had ever taste but I think it is because of the med.) during lunch. I also aware that I may be bleeding a bit much (end up with IV) and talk a lot while I was out. I finally came back to full conscious when the two technicians (Kwan and Linsey) was injecting the hair to my head. I asked about the time and it was 11ish at night. We then spent about an hour making fun about the back to back Julia Robert movies (Pretty women + Sleeping with Enemy) on the TV. Dr. Diep would come in to check on us periodically and the surgery ends around 12:30am. Linsey then went through the aftercare package (med, shampoo, bandages, and shoulder pillow) while I pull my IV off my arm. She wasn't too crazy about it. Dr. Diep then spent couple minutes to give me a quick low down about my surgery (a lot of grey hair and it made things harder.) He was happy about the results after all and sent me on my way. After surgery: The pain was pretty ok. I took the Tramadol for the first two days and then just once a day Aleve afterward. I actually have more problems with the swollen and had trouble open my eyes two days later. I did not take any time off and went back to work the next day. I sent my photo to my boss and he told me not to get on zoom. I actually sent him another photo during the peak of my swollen, and he said never send him anymore photos. Things start looking up about four days later and the swollen was totally gone after 6 days. I still take Aleve right before bed time but it is more to do with the discomfort of the back of my head then anything else. Cleaning (day after): I went back to the office the next day afternoon to have my head clean. No appointment was needed. Jenifer the nurse was super nice and answered a bunch of dump questions that I did not ask the night before. It took about 20 minutes in and out. Billing mix up: I got a bill couple days later for some extra charges because my combined 2611 grafts are more expensive than $17K. I called the Monica the office manager and she was able to resolve it with Dr. Diep. Follow up call from Dr. Diep: Exactly one week after the surgery, Dr. Diep called my cell around 9pm to check on me. I can tell he just finished his shift and was getting in his car. He explained to me about the 14 hours procedure and the combination of FUE + FUT just took longer. He also apologized about the billing mix up due to the office manager did not read his note about the no charge. He ended the call to offer me a free ACELL injection ($600 value according to him) due to the billing miscommunication. Next steps: I have scheduled to remove the sutures in two weeks. An appointment with Dr. Diep for the first check up in four weeks. Overall: I am happy with the results and overall experiences. I can be just like many people her to nitpick stuff and expect the doctor to do everything perfect. You probably can tell by now that I don't take shxt too seriously. OK.. Let stop the rambling and see some before and after photos.
  21. Hey guys I am a 35 yo male from London and arrived home last night from Istanbul so I will talk about my experience at Asmed. I wanted to keep this brief but to hell with it I couldn’t help it. Firstly a big thank you to both Sema and Suzana who were my coordinators. Sema - who helped me over the past year since I contacted Asmed and Suzana who was with me throughout the experience and never left my side. She is very fluent in English and communication and organisation was excellent. In fact everyone at Asmed looked after me very well and never made me feel awkward. Not to forget the anesthetist Dr Umat who is a very interesting individual :). Initially I sent Asmed (Sema - my initial coordinator) my photos 12 months ago and Dr Erdogan recommended 5000 grafts and for me to start finesteride before surgery as without it I may not be happy with the end result because of my type of hairloss. I was a bit weary of finesteride side effects so it took a month for me to decide what to do because for me hair transplants and finesteride go hand in hand. So a couple of months went by (sept - dec 2017) eventually I got on brand name Propecia 1mg by Merck. I started slowly as advised by a hair loss expert we all know - it took me till January until I was using it more or less every day. In this time I was in constant communication with Sema discussing dates etc. And getting my finances sorted. So in January I asked to book the surgery in May however they had very few dates and I could not get the amount of time I wanted from work. I use Toppik hair fibres and Asmed advise patients not to use it for 6 months so I wanted as much time not using it as possible after surgery. So my work allowed me to take 3 months leave (mix of unpaid and paid) - yes a lot of time but only 6 weeks was unpaid. So in February we decided on 3rd and 4th Oct. 2018 (2500 grafts per day) this was actually good because I would have been on Propecia 10 months. You can send from 1000 to 3000 euros - I sent 1000 initially and just before I went I sent another 2000 just after Dr Erdogan looked again at my updated photos (as it was nearly a year since the initial ones)to confirm. I used TransferWise as they take the actual exchange rate on Google and not lower rates like banks provide. I would need to arrive before 14:00 on 2nd Oct for the consultation however there were no flights that arrive before that time on BA from Heathrow Airport. There were other flights from different airlines but I wanted BA as I could get the flight for £75 return and free long stay parking (as I know someone who works there), I was already spending so much on the surgery so I wanted to keep costs down. Sema very kindly allowed me to arrive in the evening of 1st Oct, 2nd Oct - consultation, 3/4 Oct surgery 5th Oct shampoo/clean and departure for home at 1625. This extra night came at no extra cost. Initially I booked the clinic’s own suite but there was a problem with the room so they booked me into the Raddison blue hotel (5 mins from clinic) all days free and breakfast included. This turned out much better because although Asmed can make you breakfast, they close in the evening and the only people there are security and local restaurants are not very close. Just take a yellow taxi (with meter) from the hotel for 10 liras (just over a pound) and ask to go to the Palladium shopping and restaurant complex 5 mins away. If you need to change money into Turkish Lira change it at this complex just ask anyone for "change office" which is in the shopping center. I wanted to see the famous blue mosque and grand bazaar but it is an hour away. Day of Arrival (Mon 1st Oct) Flight arrived at 1630 just a 4 hour flight from London Heathrow Airport. The Asmed driver was there with my name written on an iPad (transfer from airport to hotel and all journeys between hotel and Asmed are free). He gave me his phone as Suzana (my day to day coordinator) spoke on the phone me and welcomed me to Istanbul and said she will be in constant touch with me on whatsapp and in the clinic she will be taking care of me the entire time. The car was a large Mercedes people carrier with beautiful red leather seats and plenty of snacks to enjoy. Because of the time of day it took close to an hour to get to the hotel because of rush hour. The Hotel room was very good and I took a taxi to the Palladium center. You just need to tell the hotel reception to get you a taxi and it comes right away, they have a meter on so you won't be ripped off. Took 5 mins cost me a pound and walked around the shopping center, ate some delicious kebabs and got a taxi which are always there and got back to my room to get some sleep. Day 2 (Consultation) Suzana sent me a whatsapp message saying that the driver will pick me up at 12:45. I got into the car with 2 other people who also were having their consultations. You should know that you won't be the only patient in the day as I will come to later. We were greeted at reception by our respective coordinators and reception staff. The clinic is amazing, clean, modern and very classy at the same time. There a couple of women who are playing the piano and violin in the reception area. So Suzana sat me down and said that she will wait here with me until we are called for the consultation. Dr Erdogan and his team were very busy during this time and surgeries were still going on so we needed to wait an hour before they could see us. However, in this time I was offered some snacks and asked to read through some paper work and sign that I understood all the terms. All of this would have been sent to you when you booked so it is just the same. After that I was taken downstairs for blood tests to test for HIV etc.. All clear. I then went into the photography room and had my photos taken both dry and wet hair shots from all angles. A while later I and my coordinator were called into Dr Erdogan's office. It was like meeting a king and I told him so - I have very been following him for few years and on social media so it was quite a hair raising moment for me. So in the consultation it was Dr Erdogan, another doctor, one of his senior surgical assistants and my coordinator. Dr Erdogan very quickly broke the ice with me and told me how happy he was to see me as when he saw my name he realized I am of Pakistani descent (born UK) and how happy he was about that because he has always liked people from there so that was a nice start. He went over some basic things with me and said that I am a candidate for hair transplantation after looking at the blood tests. He had a screen in front of him with my photos from just earlier and discussed what he can do. He said that my hair loss pattern was more Ludwig patterned rather than the usual norwood cases. He analysed my hair in detail with his apparatus and said that my hair is of very good quality with a total donor of 8500. In general he said that safe zone hair can be effected by DHT as seen by very old people and looking at my age (35) it is possible to lose 10% of safe zone hair in my lifetime and that if I came off finesteride later in life it is possible that my total donor capacity is at 7500 so even though my real donor is 8500 he sees it as 7500. He drew a hairline and asked what I thought. It was probably a tiny bit higher than I would have liked but he said that once transplanted it will look lower but my main concern were no temples drawn because mine are quite faint. He said in a funny way that he really does not like my crown. I have not got a massively receding hairline and that patch on the top really does stick out like a sore thumb. So he drew my temples and it looked great but he said he would need 700 grafts just for that and he can't cover the top properly as well in 1 operation so if want that it would be 700 less grafts in my crown and it still won’t look that good on top. He wanted 2000 grafts just for the crown 2500 for the hairline and just above and the remainder 500 in the mid-scalp as he said it has a lot of and hairs. He said it was up to me but if I leave it to him that is the way he would do it and I can always come back and do the temples after a year or so. I thought about it and knew already that the crown was my priority - it is a different type of hair loss pattern. So I said to him I will go with his instinct and he said I will be very happy with my result. He actually told me later on that he would in fact put 2100 in the crown and 400 just below that instead of the 500 so my crown should have a big difference he said. This was not the final hairline and he would refine it after hair shaving. Consultation lasted about 20 minutes I had a bunch of questions for him but he really is to the point and just gets on with his analysis and what he can do for you. After that Suzana took me to the finance department where I paid the outstanding amount in Pounds Sterling cash. If your home currency is pounds or USD I advise you to pay in that currency to them. It saves you changing into euro where you won’t get a good rate and will have to pay some fees. The rate the clinic gave me was much better than at home and they don’t charge you for them to change it into euros. After this I got my hair shaved off! It actually looked alright! I waited for Dr Erdogan to make his final refined hairline plans. He told me that he will go into the temples a bit so that was good news. Whilst this was going on he has a big team of people watching. These are the techs or surgical assistants (as he calls it) who will work with you for the entire surgery. If you have 2 days surgery like me they don’t have different teams, it’s the same people working on you. I was then taken to the room where they have their latest robot – the K-bot. You sit with your head against a support pad and the camera takes 3d images of your entire head and you can see on the screen your grafts in detail. This helps the doctor further in his analysis. This lasts for 15 minutes but you can be on your phone – I actually took a video of what the K-bot was doing but I don’t think you can post videos here. This all took best part of 4 hours from waiting at the start to the end. Dropped back to the hotel went into town again for a nice kebab (with lines in my head). Yes you have to keep the lines on and not rubbed off because they then have to go through the whole process again. And no wearing hats so I was laughed and smiled at a lot whilst walking through town it was surreal. Day 3 (Surgery 2515 grafts) Asmed advise you to where a buttoned shirt before and after surgery. I woke up at 6 am, 6:30 breakfast buffet – plenty of variety. For 3 days including this day I had to take an antibiotic tablet with breakfast and Xanax to calm me although I only needed that for the first day. It wasn’t till I got down there that I realised how many of us were being operated on. Including me it was 6 guys at breakfast ready to be taken to Asmed. Three of them already had their first day hairline surgery and the rest of us were on our first day. I was slightly taken back by this because I was sure they only did 4 surgeries a day but I guess it can depend on the cases. One guy was just having his hairline refined. All 6 of got into the people carrier and went to Asmed. We were given Asmed buttons shirts and bottoms to wear for surgery and it really is straight into it from that point. My coordinator took me to the surgery room and I met all the people involved with my surgery. I asked who will be doing the extractions and how long they had been working there. One person would be doing the extractions and she has been doing ONLY extractions for 7 years so I felt assured. Suzana showed me the microscope where they dissect single hair grafts as I was querying this lot. So onto the anaesthetics – Dr Umat organises this. He is a very interesting person he looks serious but he is a really cool person and fun to talk to, if he ever reads this I hope you are well and very active! This is the most painful part of the surgery, they have something that vibrates as they inject many times into your scalp which makes it a bit easier. If it is too much, they can give you something through the I.V your arm help ease you. It acts really quick and she starts extracting and you cannot feel a thing. You have a screen in front which tells you how many grafts have been extracted and if they’re singles, twos etc…I actually had a fair amount of 4s 5s 6s. Suzana was in the room with me the whole time she was a great help. She gave me a face rest support where I could also stick my I pad on it to watch stuff on. Sema came in now and I watched a popular bald show (we all know) re run from the previous night just to keep them on their toes and they knew what it was. This whole process takes more than 3 hours (I think) as I just lost track of time I didn’t sleep at all. They extracted 2515 grafts in total. Dr Erdogan did not come in during this time but his most experienced surgical assistant – Dilek came in at certain points. Dr Erdogan watches all the surgeries on monitor in his office and directs if need be from there which I am not completely happy about but the results are good. Next was 30 minute lunch maybe less and back to the operating room where I’m prepped and given anaesthetics for the recipient area before the main man Dr Erdogan comes in and shakes my hand and begins the incisions. The techs cover my eyes and hold my face in certain positions as the doctor instructs them whilst he pokes away. This takes him 30 – 40 mins and he shakes your hand and moves to the next patient. The same person that did the extractions is now joined by Dilek who both start the implanting stage. This can be prickly and pain a bit so they test certain areas and ask you is it painful or not. If it is they put some liquid type anesthetic so you don’t feel it. In fact at any time you feel pain you must tell them and they will ease it. They put a special blue solution over the recipient area which highlights all the incisions Dr Erdogan made. At some point they realised they covered the required area and had a few more grafts so Dilek made a few extra incisions which is fine as she is possibly the best tech going. Implants can take quite a while I cannot remember exactly but it was just a bit less than the extractions so maybe 2 hours. Once it is done I felt very tired walked very slowly as I was trying to get my bearings right. The trauma and anesthetics can make you very tired. So Suzana came with me to another room where they sat me down under a low level red laser for 10 mins to help with healing. After that she gave me ATP spray and said I must put spray my recipient area a few times every 2 hours with it. She also gave me ice cooling gel to help with swelling. Its only till a few days later I realise how big my face got! I went back to the hotel, my forehead looked bigger because of the swelling had something to eat in the hotel restaurant – felt like crap but hotel staff are used to Asmed patients so I mixed in well. I went back upstairs for a very awkward night. Didn’t sleep much, Suzana gave me neck pillow and for the first 10 days you need to sleep with this on your back facing up (no rolling about) do not let your recipient area rub anything as this is a very sensitive time for your scalp. I wasn’t in much pain but I just felt completely shattered and sleepy but I kept waking up in the night but I got through it somehow. Day 4 – (Surgery 2505 grafts) Exactly the same as day 3. Note that grafts it is not exactly 5000 grafts (5020) they do not tell you to pay for these extra few. So that is it, surgery complete and Dr Erdogan came and said he is happy with the way it looks and is just the way he wanted it and said he will see me tomorrow. In terms of reactions to the surgery at the time I had swelling but by the time I wrote this my face was huge I look like sloth from the goonies – google it if you don’t know. But this is all part of it. Some people have more sensitive bodies than others. Just have to keep applying ice packs. Day 5 – (Wash and go) Another awkward night but managed to have breakfast and be picked up at 9:50 am. Suzana was at reception and took me down for the shampoo and washing. This is what you have to do on your own for 10 days post op so pay attention when they tell you. They took the bandages off washed me and I felt fresh again and went in for the final post op photos. They gave me some Turkish delight sweets as a gift and a power pack. As well as this as they knew I was on Proscar (I changed to proscar a month earlier – cost effective and same brand Merck) they gave me 1 year supply of Proscar (£200 worth) for free and a pill cuter! They gave me a USB stick with all my surgical details and photos as well as various papers of post op instructions. All the post op shampoos and creams are free. Suzana bid me farewell she was really good to me the entire time and I told her I’ll be back in a year for results photographs only downside Dr Erdogan didn’t meet me I left but I guess he is busy with all the other patients. Dropped to the hotel at 12 and was told the driver will be back at 14:00 for airport drop of. So that’s it I hope I didn’t bore you with the details there is more I could write but those details may come up in the future in the meantime I have posted photographs taken at Asmed below. Surgery Details : 1148 Single 2589 Double 1158 Triple 119 Quadruple 6 Quintuple Total Grafts: 5020 Avg hair: 2.05 per graft Hair thickness: 61 microns Medication: Proscar 1.25 per day since January 2018 Pre-Op Plans: Post OP
  22. Hi to all forums users/readers, this is my first post and my pleasure also to share my own personal experience and hair transplant with you all. It is still early days but the result already has been very dramatic and to the point my own family and friends hardly recognise me now. In short I am delighted and this was like for many an important step for me and I know that I have another half a year at least to the final stage but it has already paid dividends and worth sharing already. I am a doctor myself and I have been training with Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic, for the past two years, so I have seen firsthand the transformations of patients and have undergone extensive training to perform hair transplantation surgery. So, I have the theory and the practical experience of performing them but also as a hair loss sufferer, I wanted to address this, firstly because I am human, yes, I am a patient as well as a doctor, and for me personally and professionally it was an important step to take. I can really say that undergoing surgery, aside from the primary reason, to improve my appearance, it has also enabled me to connect with patients who will also undergo it, I know now what they feel and experience and I can say it has wholeheartedly given me another view and empathy with them and even though I knew I was in the best hands, I also had some nerves about surgery that is common to all patients. Secondly, I believe in the product we offer, I have seen countless transformations but to be part of one as I am now it testament to the work and I am now a walking advertisement to the quality and naturalness of the work that Dr.Bisanga produces, people can listen to education and consultation summaries but now in me they can see also the product and change. My family have a history of hair loss and so I was realistic in this and my age and current loss, donor limitations, were factors in the design I wanted to have, conservative yet also to frame my face naturally and to address as much as possible in one sitting. I wanted to practice what I preach and could see a conservative approach would be wise and really keep me in good stead for future loss. As you can see from the photos, my donor was not the thickest in areas, so with this in mind we also decided to harvest some chest hair, and for me this was a good option as I have a lot of it and also the compatibility was very agreeable and really comforting to know also this is a future donor source and in Dr. Bisanga’s hands I knew it would also be a success. My density was 65/75 so as guessed more on the lower side and was also a factor in the approach. I have been on 5mg Oral Minoxidil since the surgery. I will also share the chest extraction photos and healing for the users to see. Lastly, a BIG thank you to Dr.Bisanga and the team who worked on me and made this possible, I am grateful and also excited for the ongoing change and will update throughout the year and be happy to answer any questions! Dr. Kostis (BHR Clinic) GRAFT BREAKDOWN:- 1s 451/451 hairs 2s 1237/2474 hairs 3s 752/2256 hairs 4s 88/352 hairs Total 2528/5533 Average Hairs per FU - 2.18 BHFUE 1s 182 2s 18 Total 200 VIDEO TESTIMONY:- PRE-SURGERY SHAVED REAR DONOR POST SURGERY 5 MONTHS WET HAIR 5 MONTHS COMPARISON 5 MONTHS
  23. Hello everyone, After almost two years as a visitor to the forum, I ended up making my decision and taking action by choosing the Hattingen HT clinic. For the little story : So I'm 33 years old, my hair loss started to be visible about 10 years ago and from my 25 years I started to put minoxidil 5% in the evening. After a long reflection and reading many reviews, I chose to go to the Hattingen clinic because of the many positive feedbacks but also because the results obtained were really natural, which I was looking for. My experience : So I made an appointment with Dr. Sever Muresanu by Skype, who took the time to answer all my questions, with particular attention to my history, the history of baldness in my family, my goals ... a lot of things very reassuring. I also take the opportunity to ask if it is possible to fill a very slight hole in my beard, I am confirmed that this will not be a problem. Following this, Dr. Sever Muresanu suggested that I take the time to think and come back to him when I was ready. After a month, I made my decision and we set the date of the operation to June 17 and 18, 2020. --- And here is D-Day, I arrive in the clinic and meet a fabulous team. Dr Laura and Sever Muresanu quickly put me at ease, we really took the time to exchange and define the future front line and anticipate the progression of baldness. Honestly I could not have hoped for better listening and advice. I also discovered that the entire team and the entire clinic will be dedicated to my operation for two full days, which was great. --- The rest was relatively easy, I had no real pain during the operation or during my first nights, it just requires some patience. The team is of exceptional attention, you always have water or something to reinvigorate at your disposal. The choice of an operation over two days allows you to take your time, to take breaks if necessary, to concentrate on the details and do fine tuning if necessary. During the operation and I could see how perfectionists Dr Laura and Sever Muresanu were in their work. I'm waiting to be able to appreciate the end result, but for now I can only recommend. I will son post new pictures Here are my statistics : Haircount: FUE on 17th-18th June Grafts / Hairs 1) 491 / 491 2) 1821 / 3642 3) 3063 / 3189 4) 12 / 48 Total: 3,387 / 7,370 Rate: 2.17 As well as 47 grafts for the beard Since the operation, Dr. Muresanu follows the progress of my recovery every day and answers all my questions via WhatsApp. Here are my pictures : Before : 3 days after the operation : 7 days after the operation :
  24. Hi there. Three weeks ago I had a hair transplant. And now a shock loss of the transplanted hair has begun. I understand this is part of the recovery process, but one thing worries me. Most of the hair that falls out has a regular, straight shape. But some have a rounded or curved shape at the end (photo attached). Should I be concerned about this? Does this indicates damage to the follicle or something else?
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