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  1. Thanks to this forum, it helped me a lot. Had my HT on 3 and 4 July. 32 years old. Taking 1.25mg Fin starting from the day of surgery.
  2. Hey guys I am a 35 yo male from London and arrived home last night from Istanbul so I will talk about my experience at Asmed. I wanted to keep this brief but to hell with it I couldn’t help it. Firstly a big thank you to both Sema and Suzana who were my coordinators. Sema - who helped me over the past year since I contacted Asmed and Suzana who was with me throughout the experience and never left my side. She is very fluent in English and communication and organisation was excellent. In fact everyone at Asmed looked after me very well and never made me feel awkward. Not to forget the anesthetist Dr Umat who is a very interesting individual :). Initially I sent Asmed (Sema - my initial coordinator) my photos 12 months ago and Dr Erdogan recommended 5000 grafts and for me to start finesteride before surgery as without it I may not be happy with the end result because of my type of hairloss. I was a bit weary of finesteride side effects so it took a month for me to decide what to do because for me hair transplants and finesteride go hand in hand. So a couple of months went by (sept - dec 2017) eventually I got on brand name Propecia 1mg by Merck. I started slowly as advised by a hair loss expert we all know - it took me till January until I was using it more or less every day. In this time I was in constant communication with Sema discussing dates etc. And getting my finances sorted. So in January I asked to book the surgery in May however they had very few dates and I could not get the amount of time I wanted from work. I use Toppik hair fibres and Asmed advise patients not to use it for 6 months so I wanted as much time not using it as possible after surgery. So my work allowed me to take 3 months leave (mix of unpaid and paid) - yes a lot of time but only 6 weeks was unpaid. So in February we decided on 3rd and 4th Oct. 2018 (2500 grafts per day) this was actually good because I would have been on Propecia 10 months. You can send from 1000 to 3000 euros - I sent 1000 initially and just before I went I sent another 2000 just after Dr Erdogan looked again at my updated photos (as it was nearly a year since the initial ones)to confirm. I used TransferWise as they take the actual exchange rate on Google and not lower rates like banks provide. I would need to arrive before 14:00 on 2nd Oct for the consultation however there were no flights that arrive before that time on BA from Heathrow Airport. There were other flights from different airlines but I wanted BA as I could get the flight for £75 return and free long stay parking (as I know someone who works there), I was already spending so much on the surgery so I wanted to keep costs down. Sema very kindly allowed me to arrive in the evening of 1st Oct, 2nd Oct - consultation, 3/4 Oct surgery 5th Oct shampoo/clean and departure for home at 1625. This extra night came at no extra cost. Initially I booked the clinic’s own suite but there was a problem with the room so they booked me into the Raddison blue hotel (5 mins from clinic) all days free and breakfast included. This turned out much better because although Asmed can make you breakfast, they close in the evening and the only people there are security and local restaurants are not very close. Just take a yellow taxi (with meter) from the hotel for 10 liras (just over a pound) and ask to go to the Palladium shopping and restaurant complex 5 mins away. If you need to change money into Turkish Lira change it at this complex just ask anyone for "change office" which is in the shopping center. I wanted to see the famous blue mosque and grand bazaar but it is an hour away. Day of Arrival (Mon 1st Oct) Flight arrived at 1630 just a 4 hour flight from London Heathrow Airport. The Asmed driver was there with my name written on an iPad (transfer from airport to hotel and all journeys between hotel and Asmed are free). He gave me his phone as Suzana (my day to day coordinator) spoke on the phone me and welcomed me to Istanbul and said she will be in constant touch with me on whatsapp and in the clinic she will be taking care of me the entire time. The car was a large Mercedes people carrier with beautiful red leather seats and plenty of snacks to enjoy. Because of the time of day it took close to an hour to get to the hotel because of rush hour. The Hotel room was very good and I took a taxi to the Palladium center. You just need to tell the hotel reception to get you a taxi and it comes right away, they have a meter on so you won't be ripped off. Took 5 mins cost me a pound and walked around the shopping center, ate some delicious kebabs and got a taxi which are always there and got back to my room to get some sleep. Day 2 (Consultation) Suzana sent me a whatsapp message saying that the driver will pick me up at 12:45. I got into the car with 2 other people who also were having their consultations. You should know that you won't be the only patient in the day as I will come to later. We were greeted at reception by our respective coordinators and reception staff. The clinic is amazing, clean, modern and very classy at the same time. There a couple of women who are playing the piano and violin in the reception area. So Suzana sat me down and said that she will wait here with me until we are called for the consultation. Dr Erdogan and his team were very busy during this time and surgeries were still going on so we needed to wait an hour before they could see us. However, in this time I was offered some snacks and asked to read through some paper work and sign that I understood all the terms. All of this would have been sent to you when you booked so it is just the same. After that I was taken downstairs for blood tests to test for HIV etc.. All clear. I then went into the photography room and had my photos taken both dry and wet hair shots from all angles. A while later I and my coordinator were called into Dr Erdogan's office. It was like meeting a king and I told him so - I have very been following him for few years and on social media so it was quite a hair raising moment for me. So in the consultation it was Dr Erdogan, another doctor, one of his senior surgical assistants and my coordinator. Dr Erdogan very quickly broke the ice with me and told me how happy he was to see me as when he saw my name he realized I am of Pakistani descent (born UK) and how happy he was about that because he has always liked people from there so that was a nice start. He went over some basic things with me and said that I am a candidate for hair transplantation after looking at the blood tests. He had a screen in front of him with my photos from just earlier and discussed what he can do. He said that my hair loss pattern was more Ludwig patterned rather than the usual norwood cases. He analysed my hair in detail with his apparatus and said that my hair is of very good quality with a total donor of 8500. In general he said that safe zone hair can be effected by DHT as seen by very old people and looking at my age (35) it is possible to lose 10% of safe zone hair in my lifetime and that if I came off finesteride later in life it is possible that my total donor capacity is at 7500 so even though my real donor is 8500 he sees it as 7500. He drew a hairline and asked what I thought. It was probably a tiny bit higher than I would have liked but he said that once transplanted it will look lower but my main concern were no temples drawn because mine are quite faint. He said in a funny way that he really does not like my crown. I have not got a massively receding hairline and that patch on the top really does stick out like a sore thumb. So he drew my temples and it looked great but he said he would need 700 grafts just for that and he can't cover the top properly as well in 1 operation so if want that it would be 700 less grafts in my crown and it still won’t look that good on top. He wanted 2000 grafts just for the crown 2500 for the hairline and just above and the remainder 500 in the mid-scalp as he said it has a lot of and hairs. He said it was up to me but if I leave it to him that is the way he would do it and I can always come back and do the temples after a year or so. I thought about it and knew already that the crown was my priority - it is a different type of hair loss pattern. So I said to him I will go with his instinct and he said I will be very happy with my result. He actually told me later on that he would in fact put 2100 in the crown and 400 just below that instead of the 500 so my crown should have a big difference he said. This was not the final hairline and he would refine it after hair shaving. Consultation lasted about 20 minutes I had a bunch of questions for him but he really is to the point and just gets on with his analysis and what he can do for you. After that Suzana took me to the finance department where I paid the outstanding amount in Pounds Sterling cash. If your home currency is pounds or USD I advise you to pay in that currency to them. It saves you changing into euro where you won’t get a good rate and will have to pay some fees. The rate the clinic gave me was much better than at home and they don’t charge you for them to change it into euros. After this I got my hair shaved off! It actually looked alright! I waited for Dr Erdogan to make his final refined hairline plans. He told me that he will go into the temples a bit so that was good news. Whilst this was going on he has a big team of people watching. These are the techs or surgical assistants (as he calls it) who will work with you for the entire surgery. If you have 2 days surgery like me they don’t have different teams, it’s the same people working on you. I was then taken to the room where they have their latest robot – the K-bot. You sit with your head against a support pad and the camera takes 3d images of your entire head and you can see on the screen your grafts in detail. This helps the doctor further in his analysis. This lasts for 15 minutes but you can be on your phone – I actually took a video of what the K-bot was doing but I don’t think you can post videos here. This all took best part of 4 hours from waiting at the start to the end. Dropped back to the hotel went into town again for a nice kebab (with lines in my head). Yes you have to keep the lines on and not rubbed off because they then have to go through the whole process again. And no wearing hats so I was laughed and smiled at a lot whilst walking through town it was surreal. Day 3 (Surgery 2515 grafts) Asmed advise you to where a buttoned shirt before and after surgery. I woke up at 6 am, 6:30 breakfast buffet – plenty of variety. For 3 days including this day I had to take an antibiotic tablet with breakfast and Xanax to calm me although I only needed that for the first day. It wasn’t till I got down there that I realised how many of us were being operated on. Including me it was 6 guys at breakfast ready to be taken to Asmed. Three of them already had their first day hairline surgery and the rest of us were on our first day. I was slightly taken back by this because I was sure they only did 4 surgeries a day but I guess it can depend on the cases. One guy was just having his hairline refined. All 6 of got into the people carrier and went to Asmed. We were given Asmed buttons shirts and bottoms to wear for surgery and it really is straight into it from that point. My coordinator took me to the surgery room and I met all the people involved with my surgery. I asked who will be doing the extractions and how long they had been working there. One person would be doing the extractions and she has been doing ONLY extractions for 7 years so I felt assured. Suzana showed me the microscope where they dissect single hair grafts as I was querying this lot. So onto the anaesthetics – Dr Umat organises this. He is a very interesting person he looks serious but he is a really cool person and fun to talk to, if he ever reads this I hope you are well and very active! This is the most painful part of the surgery, they have something that vibrates as they inject many times into your scalp which makes it a bit easier. If it is too much, they can give you something through the I.V your arm help ease you. It acts really quick and she starts extracting and you cannot feel a thing. You have a screen in front which tells you how many grafts have been extracted and if they’re singles, twos etc…I actually had a fair amount of 4s 5s 6s. Suzana was in the room with me the whole time she was a great help. She gave me a face rest support where I could also stick my I pad on it to watch stuff on. Sema came in now and I watched a popular bald show (we all know) re run from the previous night just to keep them on their toes and they knew what it was. This whole process takes more than 3 hours (I think) as I just lost track of time I didn’t sleep at all. They extracted 2515 grafts in total. Dr Erdogan did not come in during this time but his most experienced surgical assistant – Dilek came in at certain points. Dr Erdogan watches all the surgeries on monitor in his office and directs if need be from there which I am not completely happy about but the results are good. Next was 30 minute lunch maybe less and back to the operating room where I’m prepped and given anaesthetics for the recipient area before the main man Dr Erdogan comes in and shakes my hand and begins the incisions. The techs cover my eyes and hold my face in certain positions as the doctor instructs them whilst he pokes away. This takes him 30 – 40 mins and he shakes your hand and moves to the next patient. The same person that did the extractions is now joined by Dilek who both start the implanting stage. This can be prickly and pain a bit so they test certain areas and ask you is it painful or not. If it is they put some liquid type anesthetic so you don’t feel it. In fact at any time you feel pain you must tell them and they will ease it. They put a special blue solution over the recipient area which highlights all the incisions Dr Erdogan made. At some point they realised they covered the required area and had a few more grafts so Dilek made a few extra incisions which is fine as she is possibly the best tech going. Implants can take quite a while I cannot remember exactly but it was just a bit less than the extractions so maybe 2 hours. Once it is done I felt very tired walked very slowly as I was trying to get my bearings right. The trauma and anesthetics can make you very tired. So Suzana came with me to another room where they sat me down under a low level red laser for 10 mins to help with healing. After that she gave me ATP spray and said I must put spray my recipient area a few times every 2 hours with it. She also gave me ice cooling gel to help with swelling. Its only till a few days later I realise how big my face got! I went back to the hotel, my forehead looked bigger because of the swelling had something to eat in the hotel restaurant – felt like crap but hotel staff are used to Asmed patients so I mixed in well. I went back upstairs for a very awkward night. Didn’t sleep much, Suzana gave me neck pillow and for the first 10 days you need to sleep with this on your back facing up (no rolling about) do not let your recipient area rub anything as this is a very sensitive time for your scalp. I wasn’t in much pain but I just felt completely shattered and sleepy but I kept waking up in the night but I got through it somehow. Day 4 – (Surgery 2505 grafts) Exactly the same as day 3. Note that grafts it is not exactly 5000 grafts (5020) they do not tell you to pay for these extra few. So that is it, surgery complete and Dr Erdogan came and said he is happy with the way it looks and is just the way he wanted it and said he will see me tomorrow. In terms of reactions to the surgery at the time I had swelling but by the time I wrote this my face was huge I look like sloth from the goonies – google it if you don’t know. But this is all part of it. Some people have more sensitive bodies than others. Just have to keep applying ice packs. Day 5 – (Wash and go) Another awkward night but managed to have breakfast and be picked up at 9:50 am. Suzana was at reception and took me down for the shampoo and washing. This is what you have to do on your own for 10 days post op so pay attention when they tell you. They took the bandages off washed me and I felt fresh again and went in for the final post op photos. They gave me some Turkish delight sweets as a gift and a power pack. As well as this as they knew I was on Proscar (I changed to proscar a month earlier – cost effective and same brand Merck) they gave me 1 year supply of Proscar (£200 worth) for free and a pill cuter! They gave me a USB stick with all my surgical details and photos as well as various papers of post op instructions. All the post op shampoos and creams are free. Suzana bid me farewell she was really good to me the entire time and I told her I’ll be back in a year for results photographs only downside Dr Erdogan didn’t meet me I left but I guess he is busy with all the other patients. Dropped to the hotel at 12 and was told the driver will be back at 14:00 for airport drop of. So that’s it I hope I didn’t bore you with the details there is more I could write but those details may come up in the future in the meantime I have posted photographs taken at Asmed below. Surgery Details : 1148 Single 2589 Double 1158 Triple 119 Quadruple 6 Quintuple Total Grafts: 5020 Avg hair: 2.05 per graft Hair thickness: 61 microns Medication: Proscar 1.25 per day since January 2018 Pre-Op Plans: Post OP
  3. I never post but i hope you all can have a look at my transplant and tell me what you think. I had my surgery on the 26th of december with dr. Ali Karadeniz. These pictures are from today 21st April 2018. Almost 5 months now. I have seen much more growth than this at 5 months from other before and afters.
  4. After months of research i finally decided to go for Dr.Tayfun (in Istanbul, Turkey), my appointment is next month. I will keep updating you guys about the result. There were about 5 hair transplant surgeons in my list, some of them were over my budget, some had big names but will only design hairline and supervise the procedure. I found Dr. Tayfun affordable and with the option of surgery i selected (MicroMotor FUE+DHI), i am promised that Dr.Tayfun will perform all parts of the surgery by himself in two days, with nurse assisting him ( they confirmed that multiple times).
  5. Me: Hi, I am a 36 year old male from the states & I have made the decision to travel to Turkey to get a FUE Hair Transplant Procedure. I am from Los Angeles however I’m currently living/working in Florida. I am about to board a flight from Orlando to London to Istanbul. History: I have been doing online research for a doctor for almost 2 years on Hair Restoration Network & other resources online. I have been looking into this procedure since probably over 10 years ago when I went to Bosley in Newport Beach to get a consult. Since my 20’s I started experiencing hair loss, not bad but I knew it was coming bc my older brother went bald so I was always preparing. I’ve used a lot of products from finasteride to minoxidil to random stuff and I am currently on nothing. I restarted finasteride but I stopped & I’m done for good. I never experienced any side effects but many people have & they advised against it. Also my logic was why would I need it since the hairs being transplanted were not affected by dht. I know doctors still try to push it when you do the surgery which is why I went back on it however I’m done with it for good. Im not going to mess with my hormones or testosterone levels. Decision: I chose Dr. Ali Emre Karadeniz. I looked at & contacted Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Yaman, Dr. Civas, Dr. Cinik and more. All these doctors are great. This is how I decided on a doctor or narrowed it down which I recommend to all (this website also recommends doctors which I used): go to the -> American Board of Hair Restoration Surgery ABHRS &/Or International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery ISHRS I figured if a doctor is certified by these governing boards that should be an excellent starting point. I also accounted for the costs of doing the surgery in the states, Europe & Asia and it was going to be the most affordable with great results & care in Istanbul. Turkey was the winner for me. Purpose: The reason I am giving my time for this thread is to help other guys like me. Guys like me who read a million reviews & went back & forth. Also I was hoping to get help from this community during my post op. Disclaimer I am not getting paid for this nor did I get a discount. I paid a $250 deposit to book my date Thursday December 6th & I will pay the full rest of the amount Wednesday. Dr. K has different packages to choose from. I did the standard package & I will explain why later. That was a tough decision. This whole process has been difficult. I believe forums like this & posts like this help both the patient & doctor track the progress & results. It’s a good way to keep everyone honest by showing real results not cherry picked ones. And last but not least to keep the provider accountable. I will let y’all know how things go. When I land, the consult, design, procedure & post op.
  6. At the tender age of 44 and after many a year of feeling down at the fact I was loosing my hair I’ve finely decided it’s time to get a hair transplant. Around two months ago in the space of half a day I received two smart remarks about my lack of hair, one from a friend and the other a co-worker and thought that’s it enough is enough, but interestingly on the same day I seen an advertisement for Qunomedical who specialise in a number of different procedures with various Doctors worldwide. I would like to point out at this stage this is not an advertisement for either Qunomedical or Dr Cinik and I have not received any payment from either. I decided to contact Qunomedical via email and an hour later I got a call from Megan, now normally I would shy away from talking about my hair loss but to be honest Megan has the most calming Irish accent I have ever heard and the conversation between us just felt natural and flowed. Megan asked me to email her over photos of how I look (below) and said she’d be back in touch, three days later she got in touch to tell me that she had spoken to Dr Cinik and they could do approx 2500 grafts which would cover approx 60%. If I’m honest when I heard I could only get 2500 grafts I was a little disappointed and did consider forgetting about it. Megan then came back the next day and said that they had requested a second opinion from Dr Cinik and after reviewing my photos again he said that they could probably manage 3500 covering 80% but the likelihood is that I’d need two transplants, one year apart. I would say that the photos below are the photos I sent, I had just shaved the head and to be fair I do actually have some hair on the top of my head but the lighting/angles certainly have done me no favours, also over the last few years I’ve always felt that I should shave my head a number 2, in hindsight I kind of wish I never now as I’ve left my hair for the last month to grow prior to getting the HT and no longer do I feel or look so harsh like I did with a shaved head, clearly that look works for some but for me no! Wish I had realised that 3 years ago, never mind!!! So after many a question to Megan and the detail that she was providing me I think all in all this reassured my that going with Qunomedical would be the right thing to do as they have direct contact with the hospitals, they are fully audited and they know what questions to ask, so based on the above and after receiving a fully detailed quote, the flights were booked! ? The time has now finally arrived after booking my flights at the end of August, tomorrow is the 5th November and I will fly to Istanbul for my procedure, am I nervous, not really when it comes to the actual event, I’m more concerned about how I will look afterwards, and not flying home looking like the elephant man. I am fortunate enough that I can work from home for the first couple of weeks so by the end of that period I’m hopeful all will have calmed down. Over the last few months I’ve watched a number of videos on YouTube and read a number of posts on sites like this with people sharing their experiences of having FUE hair transplants, now I’m no actor so YouTube videos will not be happening, however I will keep this thread up to date so that people can see my progress and ask me any questions they may have if considering getting the same procedure done! As they say, I will see you on the other side!
  7. Hello everyone, My name is Mohammad. I am 28 years old man and i have been loosing hair since early 20s . I had been thinking of getting hair transplant since ages, so recently i had an FUE procedure (3000 grafts) at ASMED in Turkey. I have been really impressed by the work of Dr. Koray Erdogan, as he has produced amazing results and has many satisfied patients. So i contacted ASMED and they got back to me in couple of days and we decided to carry out the procedure on 3rd of September 2018. Dr Erdogan initially suggested 2600-3200 grafts and also recommended me to start Propecia. I had taken finestride in past and had no issues so i willingly agreed to it. My patient coordinator Muge was continuously in contact with me and she explained each step thoroughly and was great help . She happily answered each and every question i had regarding the transplant. Must say she is very professional. So i booked my flight and after few weeks i traveled to Istanbul. As my procedure was planned on Monday and consultation was planned on Friday so i had to travel on Thursday. Before traveling my my patient coordinator contacted me asking if everything was ready. I reached the airport and one of the ASMEDs driver was there to pick me up. Its 35 minutes drive from airport to the hotel. The driver was nice and the vehicle was comfortable as well. My patient coordinator called me on my way to hotel and explained next steps . I checked in hotel and next day i had my consultation. Hotel was amazing and staff was very polite. Next day the driver came to pick me up from the Hotel and took me to the clinic. I was received by my patient coordinator and her colleagues. They were very nice people and were great hosts. My coordinator took me to have some blood tests and ecg. Afterwards she gave me some papers to read which gives details about the procedure and the complications which can occur and i had to sign it as well. Afterward i was taken for photos and then i had consultation with Dr Koray. He was very polite and he assessed my hair loss and asked me few questions. He drew my Hair line and decided to implant 3000 grafts. I agreed to it as he is one of the greats in Turkey and trusted his judgment. Only thing which i think was a downer that the consultation felt bit rushed as he had several other patients waiting. He only spent around 10 minutes with me. I went down after that and had my head shaved and then Dr. Erdogan came to draw the final hairline and made it more symmetrical. After that I had another photo shoot with shaved head. I also had chat with anesthesiologist who gave me antibiotics and benzodiazepine to have them on the day of surgery. As it was weekend after so I had 2 days to just chill and see the city. But one has to be careful as its warm in Istanbul and drawn hairline can get altered due to sweating. I managed remove bit of my hairline as it rubbed against my pillow and I traveled during the weekend so it was removed a little due to sweating. But 90% of it was still intact so it wasn’t a huge issue but was bit stressful. Nevertheless I enjoyed the next two days and was looking forward to the transplant. During all this time my coordinator was in contact with me and was guiding me through. So the day of “judgment” came and I and few other patients were picked up from the hotel early morning and taken to the clinic. There we were told to change and after that we were taken to our respective operating rooms. The technicians met me there and were very warm and nice to me. They made sure that I was completely comfortable. I was given Ipad to browse on while they went about their work on my head. I could also see the no. of grafts being extracted on a computer screen which they were updating regularly. The procedure itself was fine but the only issue I had was that my anesthesia kept wearing off and I felt bit of pain so they had to put local anesthesia again. Dr. Erdogan did come to do incisions. After extraction I was served some food and after that I went back to the room for implantation. I slept through almost the whole procedure so it didn’t feel so long to me but it did take more than 8 hours to do the whole thing. After that I was taken upstairs where they took some pictures again and I also met Dr Erdogan who inspected my head and gave thumbs up. There i also met other patients who seemed very happy about their procedures and the feeling was mutual on my side. Then we were given ice gel and atp spray to use. We were driven back to the hotel and I kept using the spray and ice as instructed. I fell asleep bit early that night. I was also given a neck pillow which was very uncomfortable to sleep with but I had to mange with it for next 10 days. Next day driver came to pick us up for the first wash. My 1st wash done at the clinic and they also explained me how to perform it myself at home. As I was staying few extra days in Istanbul after the transplant so they offered to do the washes for the rest of days as well, which I think was very nice of them. I was given the shampoo, antibiotic cream, a body lotion, paper towels and dermovat as after care pack. They also gifted us power bank charger and trimmer which they used to shave our heads :P. For next couple of days I kept coming to the clinic for the washes and they provided the transport . I did have a lot of swelling on the 3rd day. It started from my forehead and traveled down. At one point i had swell in my eyelid making me look like some sort of monster lol. I got several looks at the airport but its all part of the experience. Eventually the swelling resolved after 6 days . I had difficulty in sleeping due to itching and burning sensation in donor area. But this improved with the passage of time . I am very happy with my experience at ASMED . I must say it is a team of complete professionals and they are very helpful. I strongly suggest others to consider this clinic as well, you won`t be disappointed. Now the waiting game has started and I hope I get great results as many others did. Total no. of grafts: 3069 Single grafts: 801 Double grafts: 1596 Triple grafts: 634 Quardruple grafts : 1
  8. Hey guys! New to this so bear with me ? Wanted to share some recent close up photos from 15 months post op at Asmed. Also wanted to address a few things on one of the other threads here about my results. For those of you who follow my progress on YouTube (Planet Stephen) you’ll know I’m going back in January to get a “top up” as my hair is very patchy, the hairline isn’t full and density is very low. This is frustrating because I’ve seen some amazing results coming from Koray and Asmed clinic. I’m told this website and the people who run it are very much Pro Asmed so I’m trying to word this carefully so no one gets triggered. You can see from my photos and if you have seen my videos on YouTube that my hairline doesn’t compare to the results on Asmed’s website. There’s guys on there with much more advanced hair loss than me getting 2,000 grafts and coming out with the thickest, fullest hair ever. I got 3,000 grafts and I only think about 1,000 of them actually survived. I don’t know why the results are this poor but I wanted to pick up on a few things I read earlier on another forum. Hairline too low - a few people blame me for the results as they say my hairline is “too low” firstly I think hairlines are subjective and secondly my graft number was based around this hair line. If I got a higher hairline my graft number would have been less, so I don’t think this is a fair arguement. Also if Dr Koray felt my expectations were unrealistic or not achievable he could have told me this at the time. I was promised a natural hair line and what I have isn’t that. Dr Koray is also a highly skilled professional who knows a lot more about transplants than me, if he felt he couldn’t achieve the results I was looking for he could have told me that at the time during my brief 10 minute consultation pre op. He’s not a robot that you pre-programme with a hairline and graft number, he could of said at the time if my expectations where “too high”. Harsh lightening - I read a few comments saying that the lightening was too harsh therefor of course the results would look bad?.. you can’t say to someone who’s had a HT to not go in sunlight or in a bright room because your surgery would look obvious. This did make me laugh but c’mon let’s be realistic. I have not met one person who says my hair looks good or even natural in person. Photos/Videos soften the results you see so therefore aren’t getting a true image of how it actually looks. Hopefully surgery number 2 sorts me out and I can come back on here with my success story ??? Open to your thoughts.. Thanks, Stephen
  9. Hello, there is a really good clinic in Istanbul, after 50 years, after my hairtransplant surgery, my outlook is perfect! And i have no hairloss. After 3 months, my hair started to grow up very fastly and now, it’s been 6 months, and i am not bold anymore. I’ll post the photos of me before and after. Till that time, I want to share the informations about that clinic with you, so you can check; https://www.opdraydintekgoz.com/
  10. John Baris

    The Hair Transplant In Turkey: Costs and More

    The Hair Transplant In Turkey: Costs and More The hair transplant market in Turkey expands significantly each year. Since 2011, the political issues of the country devalued the Turkish Lira almost %400. This naturally created many opportunities for foreign people. One of the opportunities was in the hair transplants in Turkey. The problem with the hair transplants in other countries is, it is expensive. On top of that, the quality of the surgery is not higher than Turkey. In fact, many clinics in Turkey are very successful and their results prove it. However, it doesn’t apply for every hair transplant in Turkey. Let’s get into the details. How Did Turkey Become So Popular? Turkey has always been proud of its doctors. It is almost a tradition in Turkey that being a doctor is a very important goal for the children. And one day when these kids achieve it, they are not afraid to improve themselves. Most of the doctors try really hard to find solutions to the problems. What makes them different is, Turkish doctors constantly look for new ways to solve the problems when others think there is no solution. This innovation culture in medicine makes doctors popular in many areas such as dentists, plastic surgeons, and hair restoration doctors. With its doctor constantly improving and contributing positively to the industry, the Turkish Lira’s fall is the other side of the story. Because of the political instability, Turkey experienced a great loss in its currency and still suffers from the recession. This created a great opportunity for people who were willing to restore their hair but couldn’t afford it before. In a very short amount of time, Turkey became a paradise for these people. Cheap prices combined with high-quality doctors to create a great alternative to the local doctors. With the many successful results, Turkey took its rightful place in the hair transplant world. Hair Transplant Costs In Turkey With the success of its surgeons and the quality of the facilities, Turkey positioned itself as the second biggest hair transplant market in the world, according to the reports. The total market value of hair transplants in Turkey approaches to the billion level fast. The more interesting thing is, despite the market size, the cost of the hair transplant is very cheap compared to the United States and the UK. And the reason is very simple, because of the devaluation of Turkish Lira, the equation of the hair transplant is the graft price times the number of grafts times the currency. Price per Graft x The Number of Grafts x The Currency Rate= The Revenue of The Surgery Now let’s say you need 4000 grafts and the price of each graft is a dollar. You pay your surgeon 4000 dollars plus whatever expenses you have for flight tickets and accommodation. Compared to the average you would pay in the United States or the UK $15,000, you pay almost one third. This is a win for you. You might wonder why does the surgeon accept to do that, the answer is because it is also a win for him too. You pay him $4000, this makes more than 20,000 Turkish Liras. As it seems like a huge amount, don’t let the numbers confuse you. The doctor’s ability to buy is less than his American colleague because of the inflation. Still, as the surgery gets more expensive for the Turkish people, it gets cheaper for the foreign people. Therefore the surgeon needs the foreign demand and it is a win for him. The Costs of The Turkish Hair Transplant Surgeons When there is a win-win situation like this, it is natural that both parties enjoy it. But this advantage doesn’t still make it easier for patients to choose their surgeon. After seeing before after photos and comparing the prices, there is still an issue of trust. Let’s explain it a little further. Opportunists and The Black Market There is a problem in this market. If you were reading different resources, by now you probably realized there are many sad stories people experienced. At this point we must say this, the market in Turkey may not always be safe. And the reason is the low costs itself. When the price drops too low, there is always a risk of having a problem. In any industry, it is the same. But when it comes to the health, it is irreparable. Once you make the mistake, it takes a lot more energy and money to fix the initial mistake. Therefore, we always recommend: Do it right, do it once. The low prices don’t necessarily mean you will get into trouble, in fact, you may still get a very natural looking hair. However, this is taking a risk and should not be overlooked. ISHRS And The Extraction ISHRS is working very hard to stop the black market. In each conference, they try to find solutions on this issue. ISHRS’ main goal is for its surgeons to perform the surgery personally without using the technicians. The reason is, especially if you are having a FUE hair transplant surgery, the extraction part is very important. We explained this in our earlier article “FUE Hair Transplant and Importance of The Extraction” but briefly, each successful extraction of the hair follicle adds to the overall success of the surgery. In addition, it increases the chance of having a natural look after the surgery. A lot of people who chose Turkey for their hair transplant procedure complained. They claimed that the surgery was not conducted by the surgeon personally, but rather the technicians performed it. For some people, this might not matter as long as the results look good. However, when the results are not satisfying, naturally the patient complains about the technician involvement. Thus, you might want to decide first if you are okay with the technician involvement. If you want to find a doctor who doesn’t use a technician, you might want to look for specifically this. ISHRS doctors are obligated to perform the surgery individually and therefore checking your doctor’s activity status with them through their website might help. This would help you protecting from getting into anything you don’t want. Types of Clinics And Pricing Once you make your decision, you will start seeing different prices for each clinic and doctor. Mainly, there are two different strategies. Packages The first type of pricing for hair transplants in Turkey is the packages. Hospitals and less experienced surgeons choose this strategy. The idea is selling the service with a very low price to gain experience in the area. People usually complain that the hospital surgeons lack the aesthetical touch and even if the hair transplants are very durable, the look might not be very natural. Similarly, the inexperienced young surgeon might not get you the best look. But they are still very skillful and can make a great job nonetheless. The prices are between $1500-2500 for the packages and they include the flight tickets and accommodation as well. Rate-Based Clinics The other type of pricing is the per graft rate based pricing strategy. This pricing is the strategy of more experienced and famous surgeons in Turkey. They generally set a fixed price for per graft and might help you with the accommodation. They usually don’t get involved in the flight tickets. The strategy is for the patient to ask for a free consultation. These clinics would like to first see the patient and determine the graft number. In some clinics tough, the surgeon might not want to do the surgery and decline the patient. When the patient’s hair and scalp characteristics are not fit for a surgery, they explain the reason and offer alternative methods. These kind of surgeons are more experienced and professional. Therefore the chances of a natural look are higher if you are suitable for a hair transplant procedure. The price range for this type is larger. It changes between 50 cents to $3 per graft. The numbers might change slightly depending on your unique case. Price Might Not Mean Better Transplants When you compare the prices, remembering this is crucial. A high price doesn’t mean the surgeon performs the entire surgery personally or will get the best results. Meanwhile, the cheapest option could have the surgeon conducting the procedure personally and may get you the best result. We have prepared something for you which might help you find a surgeon you can trust. “How To Find A Hair Surgeon You Can Trust” might help you decide your strategy while you choose your surgeon. More Reasons To Choose Turkey It seems very reasonable for people to choose Turkey as their hair transplant destination. The cost of hair transplant in Turkey is very fair if you can manage to find a doctor you can trust. However, it is not just about the prices and quality. Turkey is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and Turkish Lira’s weakness presents an amazing opportunity for outsiders. You will spend at least 5 days in Turkey through the process. You will be resting after the surgery but then you will want to go out and see a new place. Istanbul or Ankara, you will have plenty of options to choose from. If you like history, Turkey is a country of history. If you want to see some art, it is there. If you want to go shopping, there are a lot of shopping malls and places. The best part in all of this is, whatever you do when you spend money, it will be cheap for you. It takes a long time for the market to correct prices and when you are there, you will be enjoying the power of your money. Especially with the FUE method hair transplants, the recovery is easier and the post-surgery pain is less. This means that with extra care, you can visit places you are curious about while healing. Since the prices are so cheap for you, you can visit close destinations for very low prices while you are there. If you have time, you can go a few days earlier before your surgery and visit places with a very low budget. Health tourism is very popular these days in Turkey. It could be a good idea to take advantage of the destination and make the most out of it. Do It Right, Do It Once Ultimately, this is the idea. Hair transplant cost in Turkey makes it an important alternative if you like to pay considerably less. However, this comes with a risk, if you end up with the wrong surgeon, this whole thing can turn into a mess quickly. Therefore, we always recommend a very thorough research before making any decisions. If you make a mistake, it will cost you more time and money in the end. Given the fact that everyone is so busy these days, this increases the number of complaints after a surgery. Most of the time, it is because the patient rushes and misses a point. Therefore no matter how busy you are and how good the offer is, not rushing and giving yourself some time before making the final decision is essential. Because most of the times we think something makes sense the moment but when we wait for a while for the emotions to sit, we realize it was just a temporary feeling. But, if you think your decision is still the final after a while, then go for it. In the end, this is your decision and your hair. All we can do is to hope that you find your ideal surgeon. And we will be here to help you while you do that. Meanwhile, we hope that you have more information about the hair transplant cost in Turkey now. If you need more help, just let us know. Good Luck!
  11. Hi Everyone, On 8 December 2015 I had 3400 FUE at Asmed Clinic in Istanbul, Turkey. Here’s my review. About me I’m from Australia and 43 years old. My temples and hairline began to recede in my twenties. I was self-conscious, and downright frightened of how it would progress. By the age of 26 (back in 1998) I had my first prescription for Propecia (Finasteride). I’ve had zero side effects and have stuck with Finasteride for the past 17 years. My hair loss slowed remarkably, but did not completely halt. My donor hair is fine (40 microns, it turns out), however is reasonably dense all over. My research I was looking for a doctor with proven results in densely packed hairline restoration. Had I been approaching my first HT earlier in life, a conservative approach might have factored more into my decision. But I’m in my forties, have 17 years of prevention under my belt, and I’ve managed to hold it at NW2. I wanted a FUE doc who had the best chance of constructing a believable restored hairline. I scoured this forum before moving to a shortlist for online consultations. Before locking in Asmed, I private messages 10 past patients. I mostly reached out to forum members who has posted their original results then gone quiet, and to my surprise I heard back from all but one. Of the 9 that responded, eight were pleased with their final results, and one was openly disappointed. Despite the single negative response I remained comfortable, paid a deposit, planned a holiday around the procedure and booked flights. My consultation Nothing out of the ordinary. Photos, blood work, met Erdogan, he measured caliber of hairline and density, discussed expectations, drew a great hairline that was easily agreed, final number of grafts locked in, and head shaved (gulp!). Having my hair caliber confirmed as 40 microns was a bummer, but hardly a surprise. I made the final decision to proceed with the surgery the following day, and paid Euros cash. Note: Asmed requires cash payment to avoid paying a 20% tax. This means that to proceed at the 2.5 Euros per graft quoted you need to acquire a massive amount of foreign currency before you leave home, and then travel with it. This is a major hassle/worry, and I was relieved to finally hand it over. Surgery day Again, nothing out of the ordinary. Erdogan’s first assistant Dilek was assigned to my surgery. I’d seen her name numerous times on the forums, and was comforted knowing she had many years of experience. There was also another tech involved, however Dilek spent the most time worklng on me. I estimate she performed 80% of the extractions, and over half of the implantations. There were 3 surgeries happening at Asmed the same day as me, and 4 the following day. Anyone considering Asmed should go in with the understanding Erdogan’s involvement will be limited to the hairline design and incisions. I knew this going in, and was fine with it, however it could be a surprise to others. One thing I do distinctly recall was the impact of the medications. The anesthesiologist offered me a Xanax in the morning to calm my nerves, then a Tramadol at lunch for the pain. Well, what a combination. After lunch I was drifting in and out of vivid dream scenarios and calmly waking up in the middle of my HT. That happened on repeat for hours. I spoke to other patients and none of them had the same trance-like experience – so it must have just been the medication’s impact on me. I was in surgery until almost 8pm and was too swept away in the various dreams to be bored…so I was more than okay with it. I had the optional PRP, and I really hope it does something hurry along his dreadful redness. My stats • Total grafts – 3404 (3200 was originally planned, and was only charged for this) - 420 singles - 1790 doubles - 1134 triples - 60 quadruples • Average hair per graft – 2.24 (7643 hairs) • Caliber: 40 microns • Donor capacity: 8500 My tips Try to connect with other patients. Do your best to find out if any other forum members will be at the same doctor/clinic the same week as you. Before leaving, I connected with another Australian who had surgery booked the day before mine, and he had connected with another forum member booked for surgery the same day as me. By the end of it there were a few us catching up at the Radisson, and we’re now connected on Facebook swapping recovery stories. Hair transplants are a major life experience, and connecting with real people who have chosen the same path, going through the exact same thing, at the same time, has been an unexpected surprise and comfort. Don’t rush back home I went over with partner by my side, and we travelled for 2 weeks following the op. It was great to be able to walk around overseas not caring what strangers thought of my bald, massacred, head. I’m back home now, and to keep the procedure quiet I’m having have to carefully manage any social appearances…I wish we had stayed away longer. Results It’s way too early to tell. I’ll take pics every month to track my own progress, and will be happy to share them. Fingers crossed, I’ll have good news to report in around 6 months. Either way, I'll return the favour and report back honestly with success or regrets. Ersko72
  12. Hi Guys, Last August, I had a hair transplantation at Dr. Ilhan Serdaroglu's Clinic, Istanbul. The open area on my head was wide so he advised me two session. I was glad with the first session. 3300 grafts. I had no aches or pain during or after the operation. To be honest, I just felt a little pain during the anasthesia at the beginning of the operation and that's all. Therefore I decided upon the second session, 2800 grafts. I have just undergone the second session for a few days. With this session he worked on the vertex mostly. I strongly advice you to meet Dr. Ilhan Serdaroglu before you decide HT. Here are some of my photos. Before the HT, after the I. session, II. session.
  13. Hello everyone! I'm from Los Angeles California, 36 years old, and just traveled to Istanbul Turkey for a FUE 2,500 grafts operation with Dr. Emrah Cinik and his amazing team. I'm sharing my story because I feel like I might save some nice people just looking for help a SHIT ton of money. SIDE NOTE: Dr. Cinik and his team don't know I'm writing this. I just remember how I felt a few months ago... clueless - but I had finally decided I wanted to go under the knife. I had no idea who to choose. If you're looking to get a HT, hopefully my story will help. In southern California. FUE operations roughly cost $8 a graft. That means my operation would have cost $20,000 plus tax in LA. I was quoted prices ranging from $12,000 - $20,000. I understand that price isn't everything, but please... it's obviously VERY important. My thoughts on it are if some whack doctor is peddling $5 street corner hair transplants, odds are they aren't going to stay reputable and people would warn others to STAY AWAY. No one would willingly pay to get their head messed up even for free. Shaving your head and going bald is a much better alternative to a bad HT. From what I've read, Dr. Cinik has been doing this over ten years with ZERO bad reviews. I couldn't find a single one. I talked with many reputable doctors in the US, Europe, Turkey, and India - but after reading dozens of positive reviews and seeing Dr. Cinik's work all over these kind of forums, I chose him. The dude seems like a legend. Like many others, I thought it was too good to be true. But that's why I'm here. I did it and I couldn't be happier I did. I paid $2,150 cash (1,990 euro) plus a $930 flight. That's IT. $3,080 total. Ground transportation + 3 night hotel was taken care of. Long story short, if you're from the USA and want to save about $17,000, get your ass to Istanbul. I'll post my pre-operation pictures here first. The first short hair pictures are from early 2016 before I started using Rogaine daily again and began finasteride (zero side effects from either btw). Those drugs helped a TON and I grew my hair out for a year. Realizing that's the best I could do on those drugs, I finally decided I wanted to get a transplant to fill in my receding hairline. The long hair pictures were taken before my flight to Istanbul. I'll respond to this thread with my post op pictures and comment on HT experience while I was there.
  14. I have booked my hair transplant with Adam & Havva in Turkey next month on the 9th Oct. They seem to be experienced with ht as they answered all my questions and also two person i know have had ht with them, so decided to get it done soon. They offered me full package ht with PRP treatment, hotel 3 night stay and all transfers included. The hair transplant specialist is called : Safiye Kurt the plastic surgeon is called : Op.Dr. Mert Demirel I have explained to them that i previously had ht here in Uk with really bad results, they said they will repair the hair transplanted by taking it out and doing all over again by imputing much as possible grafts. With my scar at the back they will try and conceal it by putting grafts over the scar so not sure how that will work but hope they sort it out. Hope i get my desired result and will upload my pic after the ht and will let everyone know how it went. If there is anything i missed out or should know about please feel free to ask me. Below is link of their website where am gone get my ht done: (Link removed by moderator - See Terms of Service) kind regards Rumon
  15. Hello everyone, i just had my hair transplant operation short time ago and would like to share all about it. Hair loss started 5-6 years ago and came up to consideration to think about a solution recently as i am 34 years old. As seen on my photos, especially the frontal part got bald and some crown. The prior process was standard like all other clinics, request, analyze, quotation, comparison and decision. Eventually i made my mind to fly over to istanbul and make it done with Arenamed due to ref photos, responsiveness, premises etc. They offered me 3 days package including transfers and hotel, i just had to book my flight to confirm the appointment. Anyways, airport welcoming, hotel location was ok. On the op day, right after arriving to hospital, first step was the blood test, then filling patient form and finally plan of the transplant. Front line and recipient area area drawn and i checked and confirmed. What impressed me was the graft qty to plan for transplantation. Only to the frontal part 5000 + 1000 for crown in total of 6000. Operation took about 9-10 hours and not easy to be still even if you have short breaks for lunch, toilet, rest etc. Eventually all was transplanted and i can't wait for the process. Aftercare and my condition are satisfactory so far as i am at the very beginning. Just got back home, will keep the forum updated and comments are welcome. Team was professional and understanding the concerns. Seems well talented and did not have a problem during long hours. There was the final check after extraction for the frontline and recipient area, injections are painful but no feeling after 10 min. i think the most challenging part is to be still for hours long.
  16. Hi everyone, My name's Julian, I'm 23 and this is my first post although I have been ghosting these forums for a while. I have a receding hairline, not too bad, probably between a Norwood 1 and 2 and having been taking Propecia for almost a year. Although my situation is not terrible, it has still dented my self confidence considerably and so I am looking to restore my old hairline or perhaps lower it even further than that so I have a straight ruler edge hairline like Brad Pitt. I had a consultation with a clinic here in the UK, but as anyone who lives in the UK will know, there are many stringent rules and regulations for just about anything, and they were unwilling to operate on anyone under 25, despite me having stabilised my hair loss with Propecia. For that reason, as well as the price, I am looking for hair transplant surgery abroad, and Turkey seems to be one of the best options. I contacted Dr. Erdogan, a top surgeon in Turkey recommended by this forum. Problem is he quoted me €7,000 for the operation alone, which while I'm sure would be top quality, is a little out of my price range. However I received a quote from Estethica in Istanbul, a clinic for which there doesn't seem to be much information on this forum. I was quoted ?1,875 for 2,600 FUE grafts (which is reassuring because it is close to Dr. Erdogan's estimate of 2,800 grafts) with meds, two nights accommodation and airport transfers included in this price. They also offered a 50% refund on the cost of the flights. Is this all too good to be true? Is there anyone here who has been a patient of Estethica clinics who could share with me their stories/experiences? Another reassuring point in the email was that I'd need to discontinue Propecia for two weeks prior to the surgery, which is again in line with other surgeons' recommendations. Thanks for taking the time to read this and any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
  17. Dear all, I have benefitted from this forum in the past and am repaying the help by posting my experience on here. Feel free to ask any questions. I am 29 years old, Indian, but grew up in London. I started losing my hair when I was 19. By 22-23, it was very advanced, and I started taking propecia and minoxidil. I also had a laser comb but could not be bothered to do this anymore. I feel that my hair loss was genetics, but also a very bad diet when younger, being nocturnal, partying too much, some depression/ anxiety throughout my twenties and also working at an investment bank, where I was working 18 hours a day with a very great deal of stress. I have made some changes now and am trying to live much more healthily. I used nanogen (toppik alternative) between 26-and 29, and I hated using it and think it contributed to some hair loss. Wearing Nanogen hair fibres was really inhibiting my social and professional life, as the powder had less and less to hold on to, so my hair always looks powdery and I was paranoid at people staring at it. I was always concious of it, so once after a particularly windy and rainy day I said enough was enough of the and decided on a hair transplant! I was always against the idea of having a hair transplant as I thought it was a bit vain. But I think you only have one life, you want to feel confident and look your best. With hindsight, I am so happy I finally took the plunge after a year of really researching it. I preferred FUE rather than FUT as I don't want a scar. I can see a scar on someone a mile off. FUE scars are smaller, you can still see it, but it's not as dominating in my opinion My Expectations I had my head shaved when younger and think it actually suits me. However being a NW4/5 with a shaved head makes me look 40. So I was very realistic. I only wanted a decent coverage on my crown and a natural looking hairline. I was going to keep my hair at grade 1-3 from now on, so though some hair top-up would be good. So, in looking for a doctor, I wanted someone who would give me a good hairline and make it look natural and give me aesthetic coverage on the crown, making a little bit of hair look like a lot Choosing a doctor Online forums are very important, as you all know, and so I looked at what people said and looked at before and after pics. I decided to narrow to Dr Reddy (Private Clinic, Harley St), Dr Erdogan, Dr Bisanga and Dr Doganay. I met all the doctors face to face. I met Dr Reddy twice, both times he said 5000 grafts, but all in the front. Dr Bisanga said 2500 grafts initially in the front, and Dr Doganay also said 5000 but spread over. Dr Erdogan said 5000, 4000 in the front, and 1000 over the crown. He said you wont have too much on the crown, but better to focus on the front hairline, which I agreed with. I chose Dr Erdogan because I really liked the brand new clinic, I also met a previous patient there who had a very good post-donor area (no scars), and the staff seemed really professional. Also I preferred manual extraction rather than use a robot. I also thought their price was reasonable. Dr Reddy was GBP2.5 per graft, Bisanga was EUR5 for first 1000 and 3 for rest, and Doganay was EUR 2.5. But cost really wasn't an issue. An extra 1-2k here and there is not as important as having a good doctor who will give you a good result for a long number of years. Better to go with the best than settle and regret I think. Procedure Sevinc was my coordinator / translator. She was fantastic throughout the whole experience - very good English, lots of advice and guidance. I worked with her to sort out all the logistics, she was prompt and reliable. I booked 22/23 Jan 2015. I arrived in 21st, and went for blood test, BP Test, and hairline design by Dr. Erdogan, and then head buzzed down to grade 0. It was permanent marker. I also paid in cash and then was picked up for the HT on Thursday at 715. I stayed at Radisson Blu hotel which is fantastic (80 EUR for each night, and I took 4 days) I can't remember all the times and names as I was under anasthetic but I'll give a summary below I arrived early morning, had some breakfast at the clinic. Then I went downstairs, changed into their clothes, then went to the basement floor where there is a patient waiting room, leading to three operation theatres. In the waiting room, I met the anasthesiologist doctor who was able to give me some pills for painkilling. I then chose two movies to watch (Hangover and Social Network) and then went to the oepration theatre. I was very nervous at this point! However they took my blood pressure and it was time to start. Day was split into four parts, extraction, graft hole creation and then implantation and then a final check up with Dr Erdogan. Quick point now about the language issue - you will have a translator with you at all times, so it was never an issue. Most of the staff in the operation room have limited English but the translator is there throughout the day to communicate to everyone and it never was a problem, which I thought it might be. Extraction: In the room you have four people with you, the translator, one person to take the grafts out through manual extraction, one person to gather the grafts and one person to check the grafts were good. They started with local anasthetic. This was quite painful and they applied it to the left side of my donor area and eventually that side went numb. However from time to time you will feel pain, at which point you tell the team that they need to apply a bit more anasthetic there. This lasted 4-5 hours to take 2500 grafts. It was very long and I admired that the team was so efficient. They were going very quick. I only felt pain perhaps 4-5 times, but that was just a little pain, whch goes once they apply some anasthetic there. I watched the movie and then another one. The anasthetic doctor kept checking on my to make sure I was fine. Dr Erdogan also came in to check everything was fine. As well my operation, I think there were two others going on at the same time as well. Once it was done, they bandaged up the donor area. Then I went back to the patient room and had a very nice lunch. I was feeling a bit dizzy but the team always checked on me and gave me some muffins and juice. Graft hole creation After lunch, I went back to my operating theatre. First involved putting in local anasthetic to my front line recipient area. It was again quite painful. About 12-15 injections to the front of my scalp and it became numb. Again it is important to make sure you are happy with their checks (where they poke you to see if you feel anything), otherwise you will feel a pain when the Dr is making the holes. Once the injections were done, the Dr began to create the holes for the grafts. This took about 40 mins. Implantation They immediately started putting the grafts in to the holes after the Dr finished. In the room there was the translator, the person handing out the grafts, and the implanter. This laster for about 5 hours I think. I was done by about 630. THis wasn't painful but I did get some back pain from being not mobile for so long. However I watched some movies and was able to stop the procedure and sit up a few times. The tema were very nice and accommodation to my requests to stop when I wanted. I also admired their ability to go for such a long time! In the day I also got a neck and foot massage which was nice. I was very happy it was done. I saw in the mirror how it looked. It looked bloody but I was very happy how it looked. Dr Erdogan came in and checked it was fine and signed off. I went back to the hotel, applied the spray and the ice pack, and slept on the airpillow which was hard. My head was sore, but I eventually fell asleep. Day 2 Same as day 1. Tis time extraction from the right side of my head. In the morning I had a point where I thought I was about to faint. I am not sure if I had enough food that morning, but I stopped the procedure and had to sit up. I seriously felt I could not get through the day for a minute or two and got scared. But then I got a painkiller, ate a couple of cakes and juice and then felt much better. NOTE: It is very important to have a good breakfast, full of fibre and slow releasing energy. I think I had just pancakes and sugary crap at the Radisson hotel! The pain related to someone holding my head whilst they were extracting the donor grafts. I felt a bit claustrophobic and they gave me about 15 mins to recover, which helped. In the afternoon I actually fell asleep for a while! 5000 grafts over two days is long procedure, but I really think the clinic did it very efficiently. For extraction they make patients sit up which I think is good. Other clinics have you sleeping all day long. Once it was done I was very happy. Dr Erdogan came in and checked it was fine and I was happy and I went back to the hotel. Same ATP spray, and Ice pack procedure. My head felt numb, it felt stretched. But hey, I just went through a massive procedure where my head got pricked about 10,000 times! It is bound to feel strange. There wasn't too much blood loss. I stopped minoxdil 1 month before the process, which I think may have caused some bleeding, given that they request you stop it 2 months before. I will not be using minoxidil any more after the procedure. I want to reduce the amount of the time I spend tending to my head, after the nanogen era! I just want to pop a propecial pill and vitamin tablet and got on with my day. Day 3 I came in on Saturday for the bandage removal from donor area. They washed the recipient area and put antiseptic cream on the donor area. I then went back to the hotel and tried to get to sleep! I got good guidance on how to wash the area. Post Operation days 1-10: I am writing this on day 10! I decided to stay in Istanbul for ten days as I had two weeks off, I needed a holiday and I also wanted to make sure I was washing the area correctly for the first 10 days. I was having real problems with the airpillow for the first 5 days. You can't sleep on the side or on you face as it may dislodge the grafts. I Was paranoid I would sleep on it, so I made sure I was always face up. It was very hard to sleep for more than 2-3 hours at a time, but I did sleep and have naps through the day. Also the donor area was very sore to sleep on, so I had to take some paracetemol. Every day I went to the clinic in the morning to wash the hair and remove the crusts. The clinic was fantastic in making sure it was done as perfectly as possible. I was paranoid that as my scalp was still numb, i wouldnt be able to tell how hard I was pressing, so I decided to get their help doing it, which was perfect. It was so relaxing to get this done, after resisting the urge all day to touch your head! BY day 6-7 the donor area crusts were coming off. By day 10, the clinic washings meant thay all the crusts were off over my entire head. I have to admit that for a couple of days my donor area was so scatchy I couldn't resist rubbing it, and have the donor scabs fall off. Once they fell off, the area became less scratchy. I am on day 10 now, And I really like how it looks. I realise that most of the hair may fall off soon as part of the process. However it looks great and just how I thought it would look. I think that as only have 2000 grafts left, I may decide in 6 months to get some body hair transplant to the crown to get some extra coverage, but that is just an idea. I am happy with it now I will keep posting pics every couple of months. On a side note, I spent days sightseeing around the beautiful city of Istanbul and eating as amazing restaurants. Message me if you want any tips! Verdict on Dr Erdogan and ASMED clinic: I can 100% recommend ASMED clinic for a hair transplant. They are simply fantastic. Sevinc was an excellent patient coordinator. The Dr was fantastic and gave me a very natural looking hairline and density. The technical staff/ nurses/ hair washing team were efficient, kind, friendly and knowledgable. Every person passing you in the clinic gave you a smile and you felt really taken care of. Every wish you had, they would address and take care of you. The clinic itself was state of the art, brand new, and shiningly clean (if that's a word!). All in all, excellence from top to bottom and I would whole heartedly recommend that if you want to go for a hair transplant, you should consider Dr Erdogan. Let me know below if you have any questions
  18. Bad news for anyone travelling for a ht: Turkey coup: military attempt to seize power from Erdogan as low flying jets and gunfire heard in Ankara and bridges across Bosphorus in Istanbul closed
  19. Hi, I am planning on going to Turkey next month to have a hair transplant. I have done some research and come across a few clinics and hair transplant surgeons. Was wondering if anyone had heard of any of the following and which one would you recommend. Maral Hair Clinic: Dr Tagrul Maral - I have heard of his work on this network, but was unsure due to him not doing the transplant himself - although his prices are very cheap.) Estethica: Dr. Mohammed abu Azab - They have quite competitive prices and a all inclusive package, but I have not heard of the doctor much although read about a beard transplant on one of the blog: (link removed by moderator), also they are giving guarantee and use a method called purkutan (with needles to implant hairs) Art Hospita: Dr Ali Karahan Comfortzone: Dr Canan - Dr.Ali Dursun Kan - They are not as competitive but are offering PRP treatment within the price. Dr Serkan Aygin Clinic - Have not had a detailed response from them, but I have heard of this doctor. In my opinion I was initially going to go with Tagrul Maral - as seen some good reviews of his work on this site. But as he is not doing the transplant himself, I am now considering Estethica or Art Hospita. I have also researched the recommended physicians on this site for Turkey Dr Erdogan and Dr. Hakan Doganay - they seem to be quite a bit more expensive. Anone recommend any of the above or make further suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  20. As I promised, a review about procedure of Dr. Erkan Demirsoy and his great team in Istanbul, Turkey. I'll get to the point right away. 30 years old male, I am having seborrheic dermatitis for at least 7 years now from a lot of stress. Since then, my hair started to shed and probably with combination of genetic hair loss from my mother side grandfather who was completely bald. In last two years it started to shed faster in front and a bit of top - first third of the scalp. Remaining part of scalp is, interesting, same for several years which is good. I always had temple (sides) and never had a straight hairline. My goal was or is to revive this third of the scalp as is was several years ago - not to be like when I was 14 'cause that's chasing ghosts and is totally unrealistic from my point of view. Everything was arranged over Clemens Weber, Dr. Erkan's man for foreign citizens. I 'tortured' Clemens with many emails and after all I calculated that we changed over 25 emails We made a date for procedure, I have sent him 500EUR deposit which is clinic policy for securing themselves if someone suddenly does not show off. I arrived to Istanbul one day earlier. Clemens arranged drier from airport Ataturk which is on European side to hotel on the Asian side of Istanbul. Next day Dr. assistant came to pick me up at 15:15h, extremely nice man, well spoken English, behavior natural and soft personality, explaining me a lot while driving to the clinic. I immediately saw that this is all well organized without doubt of 'massive cattle production on a track' which results in poor result and communication. Clinic is settled in a luxury building where everything is at it's place - from material finish of underground parking to the aesthetics of the garden. As soon as from entering the door of the clinic, you can't enter more than 6 feet (1.8m) and everybody has to put protective wear for shoes to minimize the contamination of the space. That bought me immediately. Finally I saw in vivo that someone thinks about that and not just 'money money money'. Two doctors girl assistants were welcoming me, offering something to drink while waiting in a big 'receive' room. They gave me few papers to read carefully and sign, in short, that there is always possibility of risk for new hair not to grow in wanted amount, risking of small scars and other small aesthetic complications that can be caused as a result afterwards. (That is normal to be given by every clinic since I have signed once when doing a nose-job even that I take risk of possible death because of total anesthetics.) When signed, I got received at the doctors office. Dr. was very welcoming and smiley without fake smile but also serious when explaining things about procedure. His assistant was continuously with me translating everything. I think that everybody expected same stories how a patient wants a thick, well natural density over half-empty scalp filled more with thinned hair... so he was a bit reserved at start waiting for my wishes. My wishes were simple - don't need mega blasting density with straight hairline but density as I have now in back portion of the scalp since my hair is wavy and even 30-40% of my donor density would be more than enough. Simply explained - I just wanted a small refill first third of the scalp, restore my previous hairline and refill a bit central portion of the scalp a.k.a. top to secure of ongoing losing hair for a little while and no Hollywood style since that would be totally unnatural change for me. Two of them immediately stopped talking for a few seconds, smiled and said 'hmmm, usually people want opposite'. Yes, but I want to save the grafts for the future hair loss since it's not going to be any thicker. And risk of my sebborheic condition is also included a lot so it would be wise to put grafts in totally bald areas because who knows how will they receipt after and in what density. Let's call this a experiment with a big possibility to achieve at least 70% of satisfaction. Doctor said my wishes were very much realistic and it's good for me to accept that. Then he started to draw frontal hairline with my suggestions to follow my current few hairs that remained and not to go out more than 0.5 - 1cm out of that area. He said that my temples will we revealed and yes, I wanted them, they suit me and my personality for many years now My hairline is a bit more edgy than average and always had a sharp end on my forehead even younger. Never had a nice slight curved hairline. We managed to get the linings of working zone, went to procedure room, shaved and prepared me. We agreed to 3000 grafts. Around 19:45h first shots of anesthesia came to donor zone. I read many times that people were in pain because of that. To be honest, this was the best part. This was not pain but just a not ordinary feeling. After 15 minutes, doctor came, started extracting grafts. One thing I didn't know was that grafts are not extracting immediately after cutting but waiting to finish a good portion, then his to girl technicians came and started to extract grafts. First was done one side of donor area and then other. I noticed that doctor was doing aprox. 4-6 punches with a motor (0.8mm) and stop, than again punches, which is good - immediate planning and working. My problem was that I have very soft skin and he had to tighten my skin while working to extract grafts properly. People with harder skin will do better. Sound of motor extractor is bit strange since you hear it how it's chewing your skin Again, not everyday feeling but no fear, that's what it must be done. Some anesthetic had to be inserted again since it's amazing that just one millimeter of skin is insensitive and just a millimeter beside is sensitive. I noticed how anesthetics affects me - I started to tremble and shiver fee seconds after I got shots. At first, I thought "damn, I am not scared, whats wrong with me?" and they told me that shots contain a small dosage of adrenaline so I got euphoric a bit not scared After extracting girl technicians started with separating grafts. I got a small notice that hair in my donor area are OK but some are containing grafts where one hair is OK and second is affected with thinning. That was not a good news but also it was since I now know that and will keep to prevent and slow further thinning with supplements. Pause for dinner - they asked me what should they order for me, said something traditional and guy with food came very fast. Food was amazing! After dinner, doctor started to make small holes for future grafts while technicians were still playing with grafts. I saw that he was very careful with choosing the right angle of the hole so the new hair will grow with natural look. Many surgeons at this point are making big mistakes but not Dr. Demirsoy. He does that very carefully with a zig-zag pattern and not straight one which is VERY important to get good look of random placed hair and not robotic look. Dr. Demirsoy thinks about it all! He is not just an average good doctor who does his job by standard everyday pattern, he does it with passion where every move is calculated. After incisions the graft implanting started - new girl technician came and were two of them from each side of the head. It started exactly at midnight and lasted three long hours. While inserting grafts, we all had a good time with small conversations about many topics and all was sincere and honest without standard killing time questions. So everything was done in about 03:15h and one thing I noticed is that everybody were more awake in this late hours than at the beginning . Dr. Erkan Demirsoy immediately photographed me and burned photos to a CD, he insisted to burn them right away even if I didn't need them that day. He once again proved himself to be more than a professional because he likes job done right away, nothing should wait for tomorrow! He said he could do another session like this, he was not tired at all His good assistant drove me back to hotel where I 'spent a night on needles' afraid not to touch it, sleep accidentally on recipient area and destroy transplanted grafts. My forehead got swollen from anestetics so I looked like an alien That is normal and it has to be compromised. That day I didn't geot out from the hotel, just chilling, watching episodes over laptop and resting. Next day his assistant once again come to pick me up for first washing of scalp and explaining me aftercare procedure with special shampoos, cremes, lotions and supplements. They asked me if I have bring a cap with me and I told them that I didn't since I understood that I cannot wear hat because implanted grafts can be easily get out if stuck to a hat when taking it off. His assistant immediately went out and brought me a Kappa baseball cap and a Nike tennis band. I asked him how much do I owe him and he said it was on doctors! I just couldn't take that offer, that was too much for my lack of attention for not bringing a cap (even If I could have bought one on Turkish market for cheap money...). They insisted and said not to worry. I was amazed... and a bit shamed since I didn't deserve that kind of attention. They gave me cremes, lotions, medicaments, anti-histamine pills and shampoo all for free which is a practice in most clinics but not all! Many of them charge even that! When I was paying to doctor, he said that we agreed to 3000 grafts (EUR) and he has done 3138 grafts so these extra grafts were not charged and he also said I have a discount of 100EUR because of our common interest in photography. WOW, that was enough!! I was stunned! I am aware I will need one or even more procedure in next 10-15 years, who knows, it all depends of genetics. It's a shame since I am not even a smoker, nor drinker, I am a more than a recreational sportsman, don't eat meet for 5 years (yeah, it's not B12 deficiency, I started losing hair way before started not eating meat) and then, seeing many people who don't care about themselves they have thick hair - I ask myself, is this fair? I flew away from Istanbul with amazing experience. Nobody will bother you bcause of cap, I saw few guys like me, customs are used to this, just asking to lift the cap a bit to see and it's all good. First, It's a huuuge city, no city in Europe is big as that. If Paris is big, this one is like 3 Paris or more, 16 million people. People are more than polite, everything is in order, clean streets, neat architecture, clean air, beautiful sea no aggressive individuals like in many European or world cities, no ghettos. Of course keep your things beside you and you'll have positive experience! My total expenses: Airplane ticket - 185EUR Turkish airlines Deposit 500EUR + 40 taxes over Western Union = 540EUR Hotel 3 nights, 4 days - breakfast and WiFi (6Mbs) - 105EUR Driving taxes - 140EUR Some additional expenses during 4 days and food around 50EUR HT procedure of 3138 grafts with discount - 2900EU (-500EUR deposit). Total 3420EUR aprox. PHOTOS: Just before procedure Just after procedure Day after procedure - I like the randomness of taken grafts! Head was swollen.
  21. Okay Mr. David I won't use names of doctors I am trying to get some information. I have done research and hair transplant is the a I will go. I have had consultation with doctors in Turkey Seattle and in New York. I have been given 13000 11000 and 2500 dollar choices as far as price. The general consensus is that I need around 3000 to 5000 grafts. The thing that worries me is the drastic price variations. 2500 in Turkey and 13000 here in the states. I guess the big question is and the way I'm leaning is Turkey. So I guess more information from others regarding Turkey specific to prices. I saved up 5500 for surgery including air fare. I have been to 36 countries so im not afraid to travel. Im looking for quality at the best price. Please help. Thank you Jeremy
  22. Hi all, I've just booked a HT with Dr. Zekeriya Kul in Istanbul. I've read so much about him in other forums and I quite liked his work. I'm having the operation on Nov 6th. The plan is to do 2500 grafts. The price will be 2500 Euro. Flights, Hotel, Transport, Medication..etc will be extra. so about 3000 Euro total I'll be updating you, step by step.. wish me luck :cool: Regards, Mo
  23. Hello everyone, I am a Norwood 7 and had an FUE procedure in 2013 (about 7 months ago now) with Dr Maral in Istanbul, Turkey. I had 3,850 follicles implanted and I thought I would share my results with you here. I hope my results will be informative for those people who are considering Dr Maral and his team for a HT procedure. As you can see below, I am a bit older than most people on this forum, and also a Norwood 7 with advanced hair loss, so I am not the typical HT case. First, a bit about me. I am a professional bean counter (also known as a CPA or chartered accountant) and I am based in Germany. I have been losing my hair since I was about 20 years old, that’s 27 years now. Over the years I have tried various hair treatments including medications such as Minoxidil, and even a ‘magic comb’, but without any success whatsoever. About 10 years ago I gave up and abandoned all hope of changing my appearance. However, a year ago I happened to come across something on the internet about how HTs have changed and that there were new surgical procedures that were much more successful than the old plug treatments. I investigated and found out about a particular HT clinic in Belgium offering FUE and FUT procedures, so last summer I contacted them for an online consultation. I didn’t get a response until after a month. They wanted EURO 10,000 for 2,500 follicles using FUE. I was not particularly impressed by the cost or at the speed of their response, so I decided to research further and came across this HT forum via Google. In particular, I came across UK43’s thread on this forum about his experience with Dr Maral. His thread was a real eye-opener for me and I became hooked. The question for me was not if, but when and where would I go to get a HT. I ended up contacting Dr Maral, along with some other HT surgeons in Turkey, but was rejected by a couple of them who curtly told me they could not help me. For me the main objective was to create a natural hairline and to cover as much of my completely bald head as was realistically possible with a surgeon that I would be comfortable using. Dr Maral was without question offering the best value-for-money deal (in my opinion), so I decided to go with him. I have not regretted my decision. I found Dr Maral and his staff to be very friendly and helpful and very competent. Now after c.7 months, I am overall very pleased with my results considering how much my appearance has changed and how much I paid. For me it has been fantastic value for money! I do however, have some issues just like everybody else who has a HT. My HT is not perfect – the hairline in my opinion is too high and could have been a slightly different/better design - but Dr Maral was dealing with a very advanced case of hairloss and he did what was realistically possible, and I am very grateful to him and his team for what they have done. Before anyone asks, I am not taking any meds and have absolutely no intention of taking any meds for cosmetic reasons. They never worked before and I do not intend to start using them again now. Regarding a second HT, yes I will and am considering a second HT with Dr Maral. I have limited donor hairs remaining so I am looking at a second procedure that will utilise some beard hair as well. I have not spoken to Dr Maral yet about this so I might end up using another surgeon for my next procedure, if he rules out beard hair. I would particularly like changes made to the temple areas, a change in the hairline and the sides. I do not expect to get my crown area completely covered, but I am really not bothered by that. For me what is most important is for the front and sides to look as natural and full as possible using the limited hairs I have available. My hair will always look thin, but considering where I have come from and my age, that will be the least of my concerns. Ok, I will first post a couple of pre HT pics then will post some pics showing results after my first 6 months. I know my pics will not satisfy many people on this forum. From comments I have recently read on this forum I expect some people will rubbish my HT, but that does not matter. What does matter is what I think - and I think Dr Maral and his team have done a great job in completely transforming both my appearance and how I feel about myself in a very positive way. If anyone is interested I am happy to upload a range of pictures covering each month, showing progression over the past 6 months. These pictures have been taken with a flash, so they will appear a little starker than how my hair appears in reality. Unfortunately, it is a problem when using flash photography. Anyway, I hope you get a pretty good idea of how my results have turned out so far. Pre op:
  24. Hi all.. I'm a long time reader.. first time poster finally decided to take the plunge. I'll be on vacation in Istanbul, and you know.. one of the main things people do in Istanbul beside sightseeing is... Hair Transplant! I know there are two doctors in Turkey that are recommended in this forum, but there are not an option for me.. due to time and price (I know HT is a serious thing and I should not limit my decision based on price and time.. but it is what it is). so let's get to business I'm considering one of two Doctors Dr. Zekeriya Kul or Newage clinic (probably Dr. İlker Apaydın) What I liked about both Doctor is that (pls correct me if I'm wrong) 1- They've been doing FUE for quite some time 2- They do everything by them self.. No "Experienced technicians" BS. 3- Based in Istanbul !! 4- from the photos I've seen.. Very good results.. In fact Dr. Kul has a youtube channel 5- Reasonably priced (1 Euro per graft does not include hotel or travel) 6- during communication they were VERY professional and not pushy at all..oh, and honest - Dr. Kul told me I don't need 3000 grafts as I thought, but rather 2500 - When I asked Newage about PRP, they told me if I'm not going to take all 3 sessions, there is no need to waste money. To be honest I'm leaning more toward Dr. Kul. In his Website and youtube channel he talks a lot about his technique.. such as punch width of .6-.8mm, the depth of each punch and the right speed of the micromotor.. here are few lines from his website Dr Kul has been using the “Stick & Plant” technique since 2005 instead of “Slit”. According to Dr Kul, “Stick & Plant” is the latest point hair transplantation reached today. With this method, Dr Kul uses a special needle to implant, which allows him to implant a high number of grafts in 1 cm2 area. Using a needle allows him to implant the follicles in their natural directions and angles. It also allows a quicker healing process since no cuts are performed during implantation. What do you guys think? any suggestions ?
  25. I have finally joined after years of looking at the forum for answer to my baldness. After a lot of consideration, I have finally decided to go in for FUE with Dr Maral. I have booked my procedure for 3rd september, but I am starting this topic for the preop questions and advice! So please fire on with your advice about things I should do before, during, after.. and stuff I should buy for a quick recovery etc. I hear Aloe vera is very good.. The one thing I am very afraid of is the maintance part of the grafts 10-15 days after the operation. How hard is that? dont you damage grafts by taking the hat on and off? Perry
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