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Hello dear balding friends! A lot of you guys asked for it so here you go! My "quick" report I had a 2 day surgery done in Espinho, Porto, Portugal with Dr. Bruno Ferreira on 28th & 29th of January 2020. Currently resting in my hotel and since I have all the time in the world I decided to write this up - "for whom it my concern" Grab a cup of coffee/tea/whateveryouintothisdays and enjoy reading! A little bit about me 28 year old Caucasian male, Androgenic Alopecia, NW5a. Older Brother - NW 6/7, Father - NW 7-teen. To set up a base line, here's a photo of me before any hair loss (age 18). Never had extremely straight hairline (just a fact!). I've been loosing hair for the last 7-8 years, obviously not extremely excited about this fact, so when I reached NW3a i became worried. I started my research for "natural cure" and tried Detumescence Therapy (vigorous scalp massages - mechanical stimulation) for 20 minutes morning and evening 6 months straight (according to researcher after doing this type of massages you can expect to START seeing some results from 6 months onward), and then just gave up as I had big lifestyle changes all at once, so couldn't manage it. I don't want to go into detail of how it works, so google for yourself, but I strongly believe it halt my hair loss progression a bit. Years went by and I slowly started loosing more and more hair until eventually in December 2018 (that's when I began my research 24/7), when I was full blown NW5a I decided to do something about it. To keep it short, you can read my other thread on here. While I was doing some treatments, I was also heavily researching (when I say heavily, I mean - on the way to work, at work, at lunch brake, on the toilet after lunch, on the way back home, the rest of the evening, almost all weekend) Hair Transplant surgeons until end of November 2019 when I made my decision. More on that below. In this post I didn't want to go into much details (nobody would really read it for 3 hours straight!), so I kept it nice and short with my main candidates. Day 0 27.01.20 - Trip to Portugal. Quick flight from London to Porto about 2 hours. Afterwards got an Uber from airport and in 25 minutes already in my hotel 1 minute away from the clinic! Booked via Booking, quite cheap. Plenty of options. Easy task. Day 1 28.01.20 - Quick breakfast and 07:30 am @ the clinic. First impression - Super early! The whole clinic looks like closed except of Dr. Ferreira's part. In the building company Rejuvie are offering things like Aesthetic/Antiaging/Dental and many other treatments. However, don't be fooled! Dr. Bruno has his own part on ground floor where he designed everything himself from consultation room to OR. There's no other things going on in there but Hair Restoration done by Dr. Ferreira. I met his lovely team consisting of 3 nurses and Dr. Bruno himself and been directed to patients room, which is dedicated only for patients himself. They gave me a key of the door, so I wasn't worried about my belongings being there while having my operation. One of the nurses Ricardo (btw, this guys is absolutely amazing! He will take care of you every second you spent there and you will feel like you are a super star!) gave me a surgical "uniform" to change right away and shortly after Dr. Bruno came to see me to discuss procedure. Obviously while waiting I managed to snap a quick photo We discussed bits and pieces, signed needed paperwork and headed to the other room for a photo shoot. Dr. Bruno took quite a few pictures and we started planning hairline design. It took a good 15 minutes or so to finalise it. I was actually quite amazed of his attention to detail! Not a typical hairline done in 2 seconds like you see in many videos from Turkey hahaha After he showed me his final proposal I didn't even want to change a thing. It looked perfect! Now when I'm thinking it's probably because I didn't see any hairline for years , but his final design after careful examination of my facial structures was looking amazing. Afterwards we buzzed my hair completely, made some more pictures, Dr. Bruno took measurements of recipient and donor areas and we headed to the other room "on the table under the knife". As I'm writing this post I don't have any pictures made by Dr. Ferreira, so once I've got them I will update this thread. Procedure The Plan - extract and implant around 3500 grafts over 2 days Tools used - Lion Implanters, Motorised 0.85mm punch, Manual 0.85mm punch (and probably smaller, not sure, Sorry! ) (more information coming soon) Implantation approach - pre-made incisions + Implanters for the hairline and the rest using Lion Implanters alone (picture attached) Area to cover - 75 cm2 Future hair transplant area to cover (crown & mid scalp) - 75 cm2, approximately 1500-2000 grafts (more information coming soon) Donor area - around 10,000 extractable grafts, lots of multiple units (more information coming soon) Hair shaft diameter - 51 micron Picture below shows all extractions updated live by nurses on the screen next to the operation table. Now, it might look like a lot of grafts for such small area, but because my hair shaft is quite thin (~51 microns), I would need more hairs/cm2 to have great coverage. Everything started from Anaesthesia which to my surprise was almost pain-less! Dr. Bruno was using his fingers to gently massage the area while slowly inserting the needle and to my surprise that was incredibly pain-less. I asked him how is that everyone is talking about how the most painful part is anaesthesia and I almost didn't feel a thing, he replied "I'm just being very gentle". That's when I realised the difference between caring surgeon and money-making-minded surgeon. Anyways... Back of my head numb in few moments and we jumped right into extractions. The feeling of that.. Like a very quiet clippers. I kind of liked the way it feels hahaha (i guess I'm weird ). No pain. Dr. Ferreira used 0.85 mm motorised punch only because after examining my donor turned out a lot of grafts are placed almost in a straight line (e.g. 4 hair graft is not in a bunch, but in a line), thus covering bigger area, thus larger punch is needed. After all extractions been done we still had a little time before our food arrives, so Dr. Bruno decided to do some incisions for the hairline BTW selection of food was solid! Fish, Meat, Veg, Soup, Drinks, Dessert... I asked if it's possible to get Freshly Squeezed Orange Juice and turns out it was not a part of the deal, but to my surprise they got it for me! While extractions went like a knife through butter, Implantation part was quite difficult and it took much longer than expected. I had a lot of popping due to my elastic skin (damn you Detumescence therapy I guess! ) and excessive bleeding. Dr. Ferreira used "every trick in the book" (that's what he said haha) to manage the situation and by the end of the day everything looked promising. Post-op instruction and back to hotel... Had a great night sleep, 0 pain. Woke up just 2 times, so I used that opportunity to spray saline solution as per Dr.'s instructions. Day 2 29.01.20 - Arrival to clinic at the same time 07:30 am. Quick check up, donor wash and right into the action. Dr. Ferreira decided to change his approach to make implantations much smoother and avoid complications. The Plan - extract ~500 grafts and implant them immediately Total extracted grafts - 3611 Total extracted hairs - 9861 Total ratio - 2,73 Pardon me, I didn't make a picture of "Total" page! Hopefully will receive this information soon from Dr. Ferreira and will update this thread. Overall day 2 was sooooo much smoother! The new approach Dr. Bruno decided to take this day worked like wonders! Almost no popping and no excessive bleeding. Conclusion I was extremely impressed by Dr.'s adaptability to situations. Taking different approaches "on the go" to control the process. I didn't even realised at first that he was using manual punch until one moment I was like "waaaaaaaaait a second.. Something is different!". No sound, just pure manual rotating movement. I asked Dr. Bruno - "Are you using a manual punch?" to what he replied - "yes, in some places it's easier to get into with manual punch". The right tool for right situation. How about that? Anyways, here's some post-op pictures. I will keep updating this thread until final result. Also, once I've got a good quality pictures from Dr. Ferreira I will update that here. Please feel free give me your opinions! I'm super excited to finally get it done (especially the fact that I can see my hairline hahaha ).- 95 replies
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I have been on Minoxidil since 2012, when I first noticed hair loss. I initially started with 2% but switched to 5% since I heard it was more effective. At first I was fine, but I started noticing side effects such as a painful scalp, itchiness etc.. I did not think much of it and consulted a few dermatologists that claimed everything was okay. In 2015 I had my first hair transplant, which for some reason failed and I was told I may have scarring alopecia, due to the fact that there were a lot of pimples on my scalp. The biopsy came back inconclusive so I decided to proceed with a second hair transplant. Dr Yaman brought up the fact that Minoxidil might be causing me the side effects, which makes sense. So far, the results have been quite good, but over the past month I started applying minoxidil again and noticed a lot of pimples on my recipient and donor site. I initially thought it may be due to the fact that I was four months post op and reading online pimples are quite common, but I ran out of minoxidil last week and noticed my scalp clear up a few days later. Is it possible minoxidil can cause folliculitis? If so, are there any other alternatives I can use? I am on Finasteride, which I will continue using if minoxidil is indeed causing problems
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Hello everyone, First time poster in this group! I have greatly appreciated being able to follow along with the many men who have taken the time to share their experiences in real time! Based on my research, I have decided to go to Turkey to Dr. Cinik’s clinic to have the procedure completed. Little bit of background on me: I am from Alberta, Canada (lived here most of my life) and I started experiencing hair loss when I was 18 (hair loss is very prominent in my family, unfortunately). As you can imagine, that definitely felt awesome 😂. I am 26 now and throughout the years my hairline has set to a III on the Hamilton-Norwood scale and I’m left with what you can see in the photos. I’ve always wanted to have a hair transplant, but could never justify the cost. A friend of mine told me that he went to Turkey for his procedure and that he was extremely happy with the results and the price he paid. I am planning on getting married in the next year and a half, so that’s why I want to have it done now. I’ve been taking 1mg Finasteride daily for the past few months, but other than that, I haven’t done anything else. With all of that being said, I want to do my part to contribute to this community and help other men who are deciding on having this procedure done as well. I want to update everyone on my journey as I go through the procedure and what my experience has been with the clinic, recovery, etc. I am a doctor, so these forums are a God send when it comes to being informed and having direct patient-reported experiences vs clinic testimony’s! Now, time to get into it... I will be flying to Turkey on March 8 and will be flying back March 13 at Dr. Emrah Cinik’s clinic. The procedure I will be having is Direct Hair Implantation (DHI) and I have been quoted for about 3200-3500 grafts to cover the front baldness. So far my experience with the clinic has been great! The rep I have been communicating with is Esin, who has been great at answering all of my questions and responding in a very timely fashion. Everything about the encounter has been very professional and legit so far, which puts the consumer at ease. Additionally, I would love to hear some input/advice from others who have done the procedure about what things I should being to enhance comfort after the procedure. I have heard that the neck pillow they give you isn’t very comfortable and that you should bring your own. The clinic has also told me to make sure I wear very comfortable clothing for during the procedure! Anything else that I should bring? Very excited to see how everything goes and looking forward to being a part of this great community! Chat soon! Bax -
After much hysteria on the forum, this issue has to be addressed. Anyone reading this that is interested in getting a hair transplant, it will either deter you away from one or entice you. If it does either my job is done. First of all, pictures can be deceiving both to present good and bad results. However, most only think that pictures can be deceiving to present good results, this is not true. I would like to start off by saying, I’m ecstatic about my hair transplant and it has changed my life, but I do not have true density. I have the “illusion of density” meaning I have to comb my hair a certain way and have it dry for my hair to lookst its best, but certainly it can look bad if I intentionally try too. I will be writing an article on this, because it is important to get out there. I’ve always said, id rather someone not get an HT if they’re not gonna be satisfied with the reality. Here are my pictures first one hairline spread apart in bright light looks horrible. Second one in normal room lighting, but not facing the light. Third one in bathroom lighting, with the light source behind the hair. See how each lighting changes the appearance and also how combing and layering the hair provides “illusion” of density. -
Hi, I am 28 years old and writing this to help others in their hairloss journey as others have helped me in mine. Today I underwent a DHI transplant at Dr Cinik in Istanbul, if anyone has questions they can reply in the thread. Day before procedure Arrive at Istanbul airport Went to meeting point Luxury car took me to an amazing hotel Consultation was evening of arrival, blood taken, hairline drawn by Dr Cinik, payment taken, pictures taken. Day 0 (day of procedure) Leave hotel for clinic 7.45am next morning for procedure Head is shaved Taken to procedure room Anaesthetic administered, lots of needles and a little painful. Hooked up to antibiotic drip entire time First they extract the grafts with an electrical instrument of which the sound reminded me of going to dentist Another person is collecting the grafts and another person is sorting them into petri dishes Snacks and drinks provided intermittently Some of the positions you are in can be uncomfortable For DHI two people loaded the grafts into 'pens' and another person inserted them into the recipient area Following this the whole area is cleaned, grafts are padded down to made sure they are secure, PRP administered, bandages applied Once finished I was given a take home pack with medication, hat, neck pillow, 10 year guarantee. Total 9 1/4 hour day, 7.45am - 5pm The area stings and throbs after procedure and can only sleep in upright with inflatable pillow provided Dr Cinik did not perform the transplant, but checked in a few times during the operation All staff are extremely friendly and accomodating
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Hi Guys I have been a long time reader of this site and have never joined or contributed. I felt now was the time for me to hopefully give something back. After much self debate and research I decided to have a HT with ASMED (Dr Koray Erdogan) In Istanbul. It was hard making the decision to get a HT or not. Part of me thought just shave it off and get on with life, the other part wanted that hairline back. I am well aware that over time I will end up with thinner hair coverage and possibly bald areas on my head. Hair transplants aren't going to give me hair like my early twenties for life, and the transplanted hair will thin out a little over the years too. For me the most important part is my hairline as it frames the face. If I had a good hairline and were thinner round the crown it would bother me less than the receding hair line does. It changes your look entirely as I saw immediately after my transplant. My plan is to fix the front with the hair transplant then try to maintain my existing hair without fin. I may opt for another transplant or 2 in the future to blend the front hairline in gradually to the back as and when it thins out. I hope cloning will be about before I run out of donor hair lol. If not I would quite happily shave my head and get Micropigmentation to hide any scars if necessary and fill in the fill in the transplanted hairs to give the illusion of density. I quite like the buzzed look when you can see a good hairline. I told some family, my girl friend and some friends before the HT and some afterwards but not everyone. I worried a lot about telling people but thought I would rather tell them than try to hide it. They were all supprisingly supportive, I am also quite fortunate that I am travelling from day 10 through to 3.5 months so I can go through the ugly duckling phase whilst away. Here are the details of my HT I'm 38 and this is my first HT I take Minoxidil (I stopped taking 3 weeks prior to surgery) I used to take Fin (8 years) but stopped 4 years ago due to slight sides and not wanting to be on meds for life I use Lipogaine big 3 and Pura dor shampoo cycled every bottle (Stopped 2 weeks prior to surgery) I use the Hairmax Laser Combe (Stopped 2 weeks prior to surgery) The surgery cost 8000 Euros I had 3260 ish grafts in the end. That included all transfers, hotel for 2 nights, surgery and post opp care package. I will add the graft details later, as I'm now away travelling and don't have the details with me. My donor capacity was 8300 approx My hair diameter was 0.63 Microns Here are some pictures pre opp -
Hello community. First of all, I tip my hat (exposing my scalp:P) to you to salute respect towards the fight. I'm a 28 year old physician, And I have androgenic alopecia. This thread will document my hair transplant journey with Dr. Ramachandran at Apollo Cosmetic, Chennai, India Procedure: FUT, 2700 grafts Prologue: The relationship I have shared with my hair is not so different from most of you guys. When I was 17, I saw my temples recede. I went to an Egyptian Dermatologist who told me these recessions were normal. Medical school opened my eyes to the possibilities of medical prophylaxis against balding, so I had decided to take Finasteride 1mg and Minoxidil topically to fight it. I continued these medications till I turned 23, then stopped. Bad idea. I was basically Norwood nothing, by the time I was 28, I lost my vertex, had a tuft for a forelock. By this time, I had networked enough to know who doctors go to for their transplants. I met a few friends who had amazing hair, told me of a surgeon in South India, decided to visit. The Meeting: It was a breeze booking an appointment. I would later sit on a flight for nineteen hours to make the trip, to get my hair back. Bummer I forgot my travel Pillow! Dr Ramachandran was a very calm, man (with a head full of thick hair!) who saw me at 11am. Asked me calmly what my expectations were. After close inspection of my hair and testing the laxity of my scalp, he decided FUT was the best procedure for my hair, to maximize results. He would try to get 2k grafts if I was lucky! (didn't give me big expectations). He booked an OR right after the holidays (Local new year). It was a breeze both getting the consultation visit as well as an appointment. Instructions: Wear a shirt. Bring a sandwich (they would provide me with that sandwich), wash hair twice, night before and day of with Providone-iodine. Minoxidil was already stopped 10 days prior (I came prepared!) and I arrived the day of the surgery, calm and ready. A narrow area where the donor site was marked was shaved by him personally, areas were marked. The surgical procedure itself was painless. He would talk to me through the whole procedure. A Long strip ear-to ear ~25cm and ~2-2.5m wide was excised. The tissue yielded 2700 grafts of mostly 2's, followed by 1s and 3's. All in all, approx 4600 hairs were moved. Excision of the tissue was ~2.5 hours. Closed with a trichophytic closure, double layered, inner nylon, outer vicryl rapid for self-absorption (I would return back to my country, he didn't want to trouble me with running to get them removed). The donor tissue was removed in two parts. While he excised the left occipital portion, his technicians sat under microscopes and dissected the hairs. After the donor excision, came the planting. The actual planting lasted around 6.5 hours. He decided to go around my forelock giving it a change for a while. I would later argument it with LLLT, medications and other methods. He did-not recommend any medications or treatments. The transplanted hairs would be DHT resistant. Since I had thick vertex hair, and minimal vertex thanks to the minoxidil, I deduced to continue my finasteride and replace this with topical finasteride compounded, at a later time. Again no pain during the planting. It was rather relaxing., I slept few times and woke to the movement of the table, the light was bright. He was kind to place an eye-patch. There was also a TV for those who want to stay awake for the procedure. However, I was already slightly sleepy and wanted to nap! He allowed me to use the restroom once. However he and his team of 10-12 who worked on me NEVER LEFT THE OR, never left the operating site. Shows true dedication to his work. He does everything himself, from marking, to shaving to removing the donor tissue, to implanting. Except the dissection, everything was done by Dr., Ramachandran. I have great respect for surgeons and the work they do. Personally I swayed away from a surgical profession due to my inability to stand still for five minutes. And he stood at his spot for nine-whole-hours working on my scalp. He does only one hair transplant per day if that is the case of the day. Brings tears to my eyes. He undersold but over delivered with 2700 grafts, covering the entire bald area he marked. After the procedure, he provided me with a kit comprising of a cap, gauze, a sterile spray bottle and some saline, that I would spritz q1-2 hours to prevent scabbing/clotting. He says the scabbing will occur anyway, I just shouldn't pick on them, but I can try the saline spray if I want. I did want. so he gave me a spray bottle. He also provided pain meds, steroids (to prevent edema) for 5 days. He did-not recommend any finasteride, minoxidil, said it was up to me and I could start after x days. Instructed how to shower my hair starting day 4 and provided wound care instructions for the donor site. Right now, as I write this, I am 11 days out. The grafts are likely anchored well. There is some scalp numbness but no pain. I still sleep up Bec its more comfortable and I dont want to compromise blood supply to the donor area, risk any scars. I also have some silicon scar cream that I intend to apply from day 14, and finally, he told me to scrub the graft sites hard on day 14 --------------- Overall, the procedure and after care with Dr. Ramachandran was excellent. The following thread will photo-document my journey from tresses to tress! There isn't much on Dr Ramachandran on these forums. Very few posts, despite him being a Veteran surgeon who went from plugs to mini-micrografts, to FUT and FUE. His clinic did-not even try to make me take up PRP or any other secondary treatments. In my humble opinion (as well as the numerous physicians he has operated on) he is truly a professional and ethical surgeon. I vouch for his craftsmanship. My only expectation is that I dont want to have a shiny scalp. Time will tell if this expectation, can be my new reality. Photos to follow. PIC 1: Donor site Marked, shaved by the surgeon himself. PIC 2: Recipient site PIC 3 Post op DAY 0, 1 hour after (He offered to comb over after the procedure, LOLLOL Post op day 1: You can notice there is some swelling. Saline sprays that night helped clean up some of the serous fluid build up around the grafts Just a pic of me Before, the night before, to remind myself how bald I was! -
Hello Reader In continuation to my earlier posts, I would like to take few minutes to share my 'ONE Year Exciting ' hair transplant journey! I got my Direct Hair Transplant (DHT) surgery done by one of the most experienced doctor, named Dr. Pradeep Sethi from Eugenix Hair Science, Mumbai on 9th March, 2019. It's been a year now since my surgery was done and as a result I transformed from my old to New LooK! 🙂 You must have seen my earlier pictures on the website (before and after) and if you haven't, I strongly recommend to visit the website and see it. The pictures will tell you the complete story! It's well said that person's hair is a portrayal of his or her personality. They create a persona for men and women which they can carry with them all the time throughout their lives! with thin or receding hairline, people may look older than their actual age and with good hair growth elder will look younger!! Once shouldn't praise himself buy yes, I do get frequent compliments for my look and many times my friends play a quiz with their friends (unknown to me) - Guess his age!! So, all the credit goes to Dr. Pradeep Sethi and his team for the wonderful DHT procedure! Another thing which I would like to draw your attention is to ; Patient Compliance to the post- operative regime'. Dr .Sethi has prescribed complete regime of hair supplements to be taken orally and applied locally to support and further enhance hair growth. And it is equally important to adhere to it for best and long lasting results! My suggestions to all readers of this post is to follow your respective doctor prescription seriously otherwise you may not get what you are aspiring for!! Last but not the least, my heartfelt thanks to Dr. Sethi and his team for giving ' New Life' to my personality and making me younger!! I was benefitted from undergoing DHT at Eugenix and hence I thought it will be only appropriate to share the life changing work done by Dr. Pradeep Sethi and to encourage you to try this whenever you confront hair receding or baldness phase....which is difficult to escape!! Please feel free to contact me on +65 9075 4602, should you need any clarification or further detail on my experience with overall DHT procedure or journey!! 🙂 Cheers Naresh -
Mr. HP is a 36 year old man who has been wearing a wig for 2 years. He decided to get the procedure done with us on the 12/March/2019. His details are as follows: 1. Grade of baldness: 5 2. Number of grafts done: 3505 3. Donor quality: Good 4. Hair calibre: Good 5. Results presented after: after 12 months 6. Hairline has been created -- 7 cm from the glabella. 7. Medications being taken: finasteride' -
Hi, My name is Akash, I am from India, I had a HT surgery (9weeks back). I just wanted your honest, clear cut opinion about a query I have and it would be very kind if you can spare a few minutes to respond to my query. During my surgery (9 weeks back) I was told by the doctor that I have a very hard skin and there is a popping effect (when they were trying to insert one graft the surrounding grafts were coming out), and after 9 weeks now I can see that most of my grafts (specially in the temporal area) have neither grown nor shed. I am very worried as I read that shedding normally occurs after 1-5 weeks of the transplant, and also heard from a youtuber that if transplanted hair doesn't grow or shed within 3-4 months then they are as good as dead and new hair won't come out from them. Please can you confirm this?, if it is true then my transplant most probably has failed. And, is there any way to soften scalp skin, in case I go for a 2nd transplant in the future. Regards, Akash
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please i need ur help , i had my haur transplant in turkey on saturday 8th of feb 2020, on 13th of feb ( after 5 days ) ,i noticed after Washing my head with ( care ) some of the hair shafts with the white tissue surrounding it are falling in te sink and they are still falling out eachday. without a single drop of blood i have contacted the hospital where i have made the surgery in and the dr told me it is quite normal , in mean while i have contacted others drs from diffrent clinics they stated that they are follicles and they failed to be transplanted , please i need someone experineced Dr or patient to reply my worry FYI i havent bleed any drop of blood these are some pics for the fallen things just after my hair wash
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I know some of you may be shocked, but looking at some old pictures of Clooney, it is clear that he has done something to his hair. Here are some theories floating around. 1. he's gotten a hair transplant 2. he uses a hair piece 3. he shaves his widowspeak now to make his hairline appear straighter. What do you guys think? Did George Clooney Have A Hair Transplant?
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Hi All, I am Dima from Russia, 32 years old. I faced balding in my early 20s. First the frontal line went up and then my crown start balding. So the classic story of hair loss. At the age of 27 I already was with a bald crown and temples. I started to research about hair transplant, but first I asked in local clinics, they gave me very high prices, which I could not afford, also I started to read the reviews and all the positive reviews were without photos, just negatives with photos and I even contacted some real people from my country who did in Russia and their results looked ugly, really bad donor zone and unnatural hair. At some point I lost hope, like if it will look so ugly after transplant why should I pay for it, better get used to my bald head. But I saw a photo on instagram from hair transplant hashtag, it was posted by a clinic in Turkey called Bellus Clinic, I went to their page and saw a lot of people from Russia, interviews, results. I know clinics post best photos not showing the reality, so I never believe just to photos, so I told a consultant, her name was Anna, if it would be possible to contact some people whose results are posted on their page to contact them directly. She asked me to wait for 1 hour so she can contact her patients and ask for permission before she can share their numbers. I first thought it was an excuse and she would disappear but she really sent me like 10-15 numbers of Russian speaking people in 1 hour. I did not contact all of them, I talked with couple of guys and it was enough for me, I called them via video call and saw their results were real. I asked them a lot of questions, all of them confirmed I could trust the clinic so I already start to think about transplant seriously. I started to research about transplant in Turkey and understood most of clinics work without doctor, one guy on net told me to ask the clinic for diploma and pics of actual doctor, because they can send you a diploma of whoever and another person can do your transplant, you will never know, you go to different country, without knowing their language. So I asked Anna to send me diploma, she sent me the diploma of dr Kurshat and also his photos, so I got calmer. And the best thing is dr Kurshat speaks fluent English, so I could explain to him everything directly when I was already in a clinic. So I decided to go there, sent Anna my ticket, when I reached at the airport we met and went with a car directly to the clinic. As my flight was in the morning I wanted to end everything in the first day. So I reached Istanbul on 17.12.2018 I met dr Kurshat at the clinic, he started consultation, when we discussed all the topics and he answered all my questions they took a blood test and then shaved my head. And we started. Anna was saying before the anesthesia can be painful so I was nervous, but frankly speaking it did not feel painful but of course it was not pleasant, but not so painful I expected. First they collected the grafts, the another anesthesia and after that dr started to open the channels. He is a very pleasant man, around 1 hour he was opening the channels and we were talking. Then I had a dinner and some rest, then the techs started to transplant the grafts and it was finished. I think everything took like 8-9 hours approximately. Then the guys took me to the hotel, explained how to sleep and etc. On the third day they took off the band and washed my head, dr Kurshat met me again to see how everything is going. After that they took me to the airport. So I had been transplanted around 4500 grafts on my frontal part and crown. It was FUE, I paid approximately 2000$, as the price was 1800eu I think it makes around 2000 in dollars. And it was everything included, like hotel, transportation, medications, vitamins, spray, shampoo and all these things. During one year I was in touch with Anna and Ali, the consultants of the clinic, especially first 4 months I think they hated me )) Because it is the period when the hair were falling and not growing and I was going crazy eally, I know everybody explained it to me before but I was nervous. After 5th month my head changed very fast. on the 6th month I already had good result, especially on frontal part, the crown grows slower, the people who did HT they know it. So I relaxed at last. On September I sent my friend also there for hair transplant. He was making fun of me first but when he saw my changes he also wanted, but his head was much balder then mine, just his head is very small) they did 5000 grafts to him, so we wait ow fo his results, when he gets any I wll also post his photos. I dont have any before photo as I was always wearing a cap, but you will understand with my photos from the period when hair fell how my bald head looked. Later I will do some photos of crown and post here. Now I ll add the photos from computer. The last photo is me with my friend on the same day he was leaving to Bellus Clinic for his HT and I was dropping him at the airport. Later I will post him also. -
I underwent hair transplantation on April 2019 by FUE technique. I took special vitamins to hair for 6 months but I fontunately I did not start to take periodic PRP sessions and minoxidil soon. The hair growing has been slow and not satisfying for me. On last November, after 8 months of the transplantation, I started to take PRP sessions periodically every 3 weeks. Today, after 10 months of the transplantation, I started to take Minoxidil. Is it now too late for the transplanted follicles to take PRP and minoxidil? Or is there a chance for the transplanted follicles to restore and grow hair as a result of PRP and minoxidil? -
How many of you guys shaved your head before having a hair transplant? Was getting a hair transplant worth it? Why or why not? I want the communities input. Should I Shave My Head Or Get A Hair Transplant?
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Hi everyone, I am a man in my mid-20's from the USA who completed my first FUE hair transplant with Dr. Ozlem Bicer in Istanbul, Turkey a couple weeks ago. After several months of nerve wracking research to find a IAHRS surgeon operated procedure, a clinic with only 1 operation per day, and at an affordable price I only found a few clinics that met my prerequisites. I limited myself to 3 in-person consultations when I arrived in Istanbul.All 3 doctors I consulted with noted I had a weak donor area on top of a very large recipient area (NW 7). Not very good odds for me lol, but since I have already tried the bald look before and liked it I decided to roll the dice and perform an operation if I was comfortable with the surgeons plan. 2 of the 3 doctors, while very respectable and I'm sure they would do a good job, recommended large amounts of graft implants despite my weak donor area in just one session. One of the doctors also told me that this was the only surgery I would ever be able to do because my donor area was so weak. Not helping my anxiety haha.I committed to an operation with Dr. Bicer because she far and away stood out from her peers. I have never met a doctor who seemed to so genuinely want what was in the best interests of the patient by asking what my concerns were, considering how I would like my hair to look, and most of all putting forth a reasonable long term plan for success. Dr Bicer was the only doctor who took my age into consideration and noted that my non transplanted hair will most likely fall out in the future as I am still young. She was also the only doctor to recommend a long term plan by not using all of my donor area in one session so that some of it may be preserved for when more of my non-transplanted hair goes away. I can then perform another session when my hair has stopped falling out in a few years. She is very methodical and forward thinking.Now comes the fun part - SURGERY DAY. All of the medical staff were very friendly, careful not to hurt me, and always asked if I was okay. The clinic's general coordinator and English Translator, Ozen, was very helpful whenever I needed a question asked to the staff and is still very quick to respond whenever I have a question over Whats App. Dr Bicer performed the incisions, supervised the extractions, and checked in every 20-30 minutes during the implantation phase. Over the course of the 9 hour surgery, 3400 grafts were transplanted with a very small mm tool so there was very minimal scarring. I was so comfortable during the procedure I fell asleep in the operating chair three times lol.I was originally quoted 3000 grafts for $4500 USD, but Dr Bicer noted during the surgery that my donor area was stronger than first analyzed so she did not charge me for the extra 400 grafts. I was very pleased with the results at the end of the day and it definitely exceeded my expectations for what I thought possible when first going to Turkey. It’s now been almost 2 weeks since the surgery and all the scabbing is thankfully gone. Now, I’m just waiting for the dreaded shedding and long time for regrowth. Finally, thank you to all of you for making this forum great! I have been a lurker on this website and a couple others and used it extensively to find the right surgeon for me and for post-care help if you have any questions about my experience please let me know! -
Hi everyone, I’ve been a long time reader of this site while I’ve been on my own hairloss journey, and similar to many other people, I’ve decided to share my story and details of my procedure here to help anyone else who may be planning a similar path and would like to see my experience. The background I’m now 33, and I initially realised I was thinning around 10 years ago. My older brother thinned around a similar time, my Grandad was bald though my Dad (in his 60's) still has thin hair coverage. Initially it was just on the crown of my head before it thinned on my temples and I tried a number of solutions before realising I needed to take Finasteride and to look into Regaine / Rogaine products. I joined the hair restoration programme at Boots here in the UK, and paid the equivalent of £1 a day for Propecia. I’m very fortunate in that I don’t think I have had any side effects at all! I tried Regaine, but after a year I really didn’t notice any difference so I stopped it. About two years ago, when I moved to Barcelona, I started taking a generic form of Finasteride which is available over the counter in Spain. It’s in 5mg pills which I cut into four segments and I take one a day, at a cost of about 10 Euros for about 4 months’ worth (far more cost effective…). I also began shaving my head short (not skinhead, but shortly cropped) – and I had a micropigmentation procedure (basically a tattoo on my head) that certainly helps my head look a darker shade, but didn’t really solve the hairloss issue. While I feel happy that the finasteride has slowed down the hair loss and the pigmentation procedure helped disguise my situation, I’ve never been happy with the crown / corners of my hair and so I’ve worn either Toppik or Mane Hair Thickening Spray (dark brown) for a while which I feel covers up my hair loss really well. However, as soon as I lean against a white wall or sleep in a bed that doesn’t have dark bedsheets, I leave behind a black mess and I always knew I’d go down the hair transplant route one day. Plus I was recently with a dude who ran his hand through my hair then saw the black mess on his hand and was like ‘what’s this?’. Let’s just say I’d prefer not to deal with that kind of embarrassing situation again. Deciding on the hair transplant An ex of mine told me he’d gone to Este Grande in Istanbul for his transplant but it seemed a little too cheap to be true. He’s only just had his procedure and I think it looks great, but it’s too soon to tell and I didn’t want to choose price over quality reviews. Another ex had gone with DHI Global in Greece (I seem to have dated a lot of people with hair loss issues huh?), though I’d read some reviews of DHI that didn’t make me feel confident. I used these forums and found out about Dr. Erkan Demirsoy / Armamed and took some time looking through his work and reading through forum posts from people who’d chosen him, and I was sold. As I don’t need to create a new hairline (just lots of focus on the crown and temples) then I feel confident that for his price, it would be the best for me. He’s quoted me the standard 3500 – 4000 hairs, for 1.25 Euro a graft. I booked, and fortunately he had space in about 6 weeks’ time from when I booked. Today I'm flying from London (where I currently live) into Istanbul and my procedure is tomorrow on April 17th. I fly back to the UK on the 19th where I’ll spend a week with my family recovering and stuffing my swollen face with Easter Eggs. I’ve included some pictures here which show my hair before the MSP procedure and after the MSP procedure, and my current situation where I’ve grown my hair a bit which will help Dr D see the whole hair picture, which isn’t so easy to see due to the MSP procedure I had. You may notice my hairline isn’t all that straight (ironically) but that doesn’t really bother me – I’m happy with where my hairline is and would only want the temples filled in. I usually use Mane HT spray as I think it provides a really good cover up solution and some of you reading this may find it’s a better, temporary solution while you consider the transplant path. Final words I’m really looking forward to the procedure and will do everything I can to get the best yield. I’m a non-drinker or smoker, and I'll do my best to follow all the professional advice I can to get a good result. I play sport a lot – mainly cycling, lots of rowing, weightlifting and I walk everywhere so I’ll be keen to get back into that afterwards. My biggest fear in all this is being 6’5” (195cm) and the fact I hit my head everywhere I go….the metro…doorframes…lampshades…low hanging branches. Finally, something I’ve learnt from what I’ve read is to manage my expectations. I’m not expecting that I’ll come out of this (after a year) with a full head of hair. I just want MORE hair in the places that are thinning, and to not feel like I’m 53 when I’m 33 and to not leave a dark brown trail mark in white areas. All future posts will be shorter but I wanted to give you the background to my journey. The following post will show the pictures on surgery day and please feel free to ask me anything or comment as I’d love to share my experience with you all. -
Hi guys, So I am just "another dude" with a hair loss problem like all of you here haha. I am 28, diffuse NW5 pattern. Been losing my hair since 21 years old. Once I lost my hairline completely (except forelock) i became self conscious about it and started growing out hair to cover that spot and for the last 3 years I've been doing it quite well (thanks to hair spray!). Medical Treatment This year in January I started using Minoxidil 5% with dermaroller with some good results. I felt like I'm not loosing any more hair, but actually regaining it back. You can check out my separate thread for that. After long debates I also decided to get on board with Finasteride, but started with super low dosage of 0.25 mg twice a week to check how my body will react to that. Looked like it was all good, so I increased dosage to 0.5 mg 3 times a week and eventually 1 mg/day. Been on a full dose for the last 3-4 months now and looks like it works great for me. Don't see any hairs falling out for quite some time already, so I feel my MPB is stable. At this point I believe medical therapy will keep improving my crown and mid scalp, so I just need to get the front done via HT. Today, in day to day life I'm not thinking too much about my hair, unless it's windy and it blows away my comb over and gives a great view for people of my bald front lol! That's the worst thing that's happening in my day haha. Well, anyway.. Moving on.. Hunt for a surgeon After a year of intense research, long debates and countless before & after's I finally decided to book in a surgery! Super excited to finally get it done. Originally I started looking at Turkey for it's affordability. Checked pretty much every clinic out there where Doctor is involved in surgery at some point (bypassing all these hair mills!). Learned a lot of things a long the way so it made my list much smaller. Got tons of proposals from different clinics starting from "one and done" types of clinic, to more expensive ones like Asmed. Most of doc's are doing incisions only and leaving the rest for techs and since we all have limited donor supply and truly just 1 shot to make it or brake it, I have decided for myself that I want Dr. himself to do most crucial parts of surgery. Following that mindset I found couple of surgeons: Dr. Demirsoy Does 1 patient a day Does extractions & incisions himself Lots of great reviews on forums Fits my budget One thing bothering me he wanted to do 4000-4500 grafts over 1 day. After some debates I decided not to go for it. I am a proponent of smaller amounts over few days to preserve grafts, donor and doc could focus more on procedure itself, especially extractions and not waste any precious grafts. Dr. Pekiner Lots of positive feedback Does extractions & incisions himself Does 1 patient a day Charging almost twice more At this point I decided not to focus on money (thanks for my research!) and be open for more expensive options. Now, here is a things that was bothering me. He suggested 3000 grafts for the frontal part, from which 2500 would be extracted from scalp and 500 from beard. I really don't feel like using beard grafts for my first procedure! Just doesn't sounds right. Also patient adviser said that Dr. Pekiner will not change his mind and that's the only thing he would do. No negotiations. Obviously I didn't feel nice about it, so I decided to keep looking. I decided to get out of Turkish market and start looking from across the world. I had 2 live consultations with Dr. Bisanga and Dr. Lupanzula where both confirmed my great donor. Both suggested to be conservative and everything looks great, but the amount of money they are charging was sadly out of my reach. At some point I been watching so many videos on YouTube from Dr. Jose Lorenzo and always been amazed of his work. Obviously he was charging a big buck for his stellar job, but one thing that got my attention was he started working with Dr. Bruno Ferreira at some point over the last few years. I was "mhm.. If this guy is good enough for Dr. Lorenzo, he must be good". So I looked him up. Turns out Dr. Ferreira has a lot of experience in HT. He was mainly working for other clinics and now for Dr. Lorenzo in Madrid. He has also his own clinic in Portugal where he is based. The problem I found is he has very, very limited exposure online of his own work, only because most of his time he was working for someone else, meaning, someone else owns the rights for before/after. Despite this fact, every case he presented for me was a "wow" case. Recently I spoke with Joe Tillman & Spencer Kobren on their show and asked what's their opinion on this young doctor and was pleasantly surprised that they know this guy very well and in their opinion his job is stellar. So here we are. I send him my standard email and I've got the best online assessment I've ever seen! It was a great surprise of his attention to detail from his initial impression, to medical treatment, to prognosis, to HT plan consisting of two separate surgeries to achieve full recovery. Not a typical "copy - paste" type of response. He even convinced me to jump on Finasteride full dose 1mg/day, which I'm glad I did! Dr. Ferreira proposed 3000-3500 grafts (will decide on live consultation after he "gets his hands on my scalp") Surgery will be done in 2 consecutive days. At this point we decided to go for frontal restoration first, which is my main concern. After almost 40 emails back and forth and ~45 min video chat (Yes, with Dr. himself!) I finally decided - this is it, this is my Dr! Booked my surgery with him on January 28-29, 2020. Fingers crossed! P.S. Dr. Ferreira is quite OCD/perfectionist. I guess that's the best thing a patient could hear about his doctor! What I'm looking for right now is I need advise from you guys. I booked my hotel in Porto (30 seconds away from clinic hahaha ) from 27th of Jan to 2nd of Feb, so transplanted grafts will have 4 days to "settle down" and will less likely to be dislodged and whatnot. What shall I buy before surgery so I stay as comfortable as possible? Any special travel pillow? Aloe Vera gel for donor post-op? Any special hat for post-op? Tie my hands to bed for the first 7 nights, so I don't scratch recipient area while sleeping? Any help is appreciated! Super excited to get this finally done! Many thanks. Rolandas
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Hair loss is an exceptionally a basic issue that a number of people suffer from. When you are thinking about how to avoid hair thinning, there are some things you should do to take care of your hair naturally. Hair may be dead but you should know how to maintain them. Losing a couple of strands of hair is ordinary and not something you should stress over, In case, if there is a notable amount of hair fall at that point it can cause you some worry. Hair consist of protein. Hair fall and its causes can be noticed clearly in most of the situations. However, the best hair transplant clinics are available in Mumbai with the best techniques. Listed below are some of the tips to take care of your hair naturally: Oversee the quantity of oil in your hair: A lot of amount of oil in your hair can cause problems like dandruff because of the weather conditions, this dilutes the scalp of your hair and causes it to fall. The best and easy way is to use a shampoo that is rich in Neem and Aloe vera. These elements will help keep your scalp crisp which in return will reduce the quantity of oil in your hair. Caution: Wet Hair: Your hair becomes weak when it is wet. Wet hair is often neglected when considering the aspects of what causes hair thinning. Let your hair dry naturally is the best way. In case if you want to comb your hair when it is wet a wide-toothed comb is the best solution. If you apply too much force while combing with other brushes it may harm your hair. Let your hair dry naturally, drying them with artificial heating and drying methods can make your hair fragile. In case if you have a habit of combing your hair frequently you should stop that because it can damage your hair. Consume less alcohol and cigarettes: Immoderate alcohol intake can reduce your hair growth, the people suffering from hair fall should reduce their alcohol intake Smoking reduced blood flow in the scalp. So this is a heads up for those people who are suffering from hair loss and consume an excessive amount of alcohol and cigarettes. Think twice before putting it in your hair: There are a number of hair products we get now a day like hair color and hair gels that contain a lot of chemicals that can be dangerous for your hair. When you use these kinds of products make sure that they are from a well-known company, avoid using products from an unknown source as they may contain harmful chemicals. At times hair loss can be caused due to medicines so be sure that you take medicines subscribed only by your doctor. In the case of the care procedure post hair transplant, you should only take medicines that are prescribed by your doctor and not consider taking anything unprescribed. Healthy eating: A healthy diet plays an important role for the people who are suffering from hair loss. Vitamin A helps with sebum production, vitamin B helps maintain the healthy look of your hair and vitamin E betters blood circulation in the scalp. Vitamin A and B can be found in meat, poultry, fish, and dairy products while Vitamin E is found mainly in vegetable oil, wheat germ, nuts, nut butter, and seeds. To make your hair strong you need to eat protein-rich food product. Hair loss can happen due to a lot of reasons there is nothing specific. One can only protect their hair by taking care of them. One of the most important times to take care of your hair is after a hair transplant: when you’re considering What to do post hair transplantation operation, you should consider this aspect. In case if there is excessive hair fall and damage is done to your hair the only way to make it fine is a hair transplant in India, from the best hair transplant clinic in Mumbai.
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G'day lads, thought i would give back to the community that taught me a lot and pushed me to a final decision to go ahead and get a hair transplant. I have loosely wrote up something, it is pretty long but should be a good read for you. I am going to share what i have learnt and my thoughts towards hairloss and of course a review of my experience at ASMED and in doing that hopefully help you guys as there is so so much information out there regarding hair transplants and it can become bit overwhelming who to believe because at the end of the day you are going to base your decision on people you have never met's advice and opinions on certain doctors and clinics and you have to decide who is being real and who is not and lucky for you this forum is as real as it gets as you can't be trusting clinics that have 1000s of 5 star 1 comment reviews when they are not all real reviews unlike what is being posted on here. So a little backstory to me, i am only 21 so i may be one of the youngest people i have seen on these forums who has gone and got this procedure done and for the record i do not want any negativity from people telling me i am was wrong getting it done so early. The bare truth is i either lived the next few years of my life creeping to a worse and worse state of mind and forever looking forward to a day where i can forget about my hairloss or as i did simply act on it in its early stages and beat the wrath of emotions and insecurities that came with losing my hair even more than what i had. So, i think i started losing my hair around 18 and it wasn't until i was about 19 i had accepted i was losing my hair as the whole year prior i was in complete denial as 50-100 hairs were coming out of my head everyday in the shower and i simply could not accept i was going bald at such a young age. As you do you start researching and you come across the big 3 (minoxidil, finasteride, nizoral) and i began with minoxidil and had some pretty darn good results from it going from very thin recided hair to 5 months later thickening up my hair quite significantly. Next, i implemented fin and noticed a hault to my hairloss at about the 3 month mark of using it and this lasted me about a year until it seems my hair loss got even more aggressive and my crown has begun to thin which i am now working on a solution for. One might be i was using generic propecia and now using the real stuff (prosper) which was given to me in a years supply free of charge by ASMED which will hopefully be the trick in halting my hairloss again. And for nizoral or any shampoo similar to it i was not using until a month or two ago as i had long hair tied up so it was hard to keep it clean and i later found out once i got my head shaved for the transplant i had some pretty bad dermatitis so that may also of been contributing to the hairloss but i am now taking good care of my scalp and keeping it healthy. With all the positives from using minox and fin i unfortunately started using them to late into my hairloss journey and my hairline had recided to a point where i was not at all happy with. I spent every living day outside my house with a hat on since i finnished school and being an outgoing active person it was seriously restricting myself from being myself. Luckily in doing this (always wearing a hat) no-one knew about my reciding hairline though they had their suspicions but never saw it so getting this procedure done before that day came was essential and i managed to pull it off. After 2 years of hat wearing and feeling insecure i started looking into hair transplants and was originally skeptical going to turkey to get it done and instead wanted to find somewhere here in Australia but as many countries like the UK and USA htp's are over priced but here in aus the quality is also not as good as the rest of the world so over time i slowly started getting more comfortable with the idea of going to istanbul to get it done. That was when i came across this forum and saw many good reviews of people going to istanbul and getting it done and the service provided by these clinics with airport pickup and drop off aswell as accommodation all included in the final price which i liked the idea of. Next was to find a clinic / dr i felt comfortable going with as being the kind of person i am and being friends with the kind of people i am friends with, there was no room for error in getting a below par transplant so i after lots of research i went with ASMED. Why ASMED? Dr Erodgen has many many years of experience and up until a year or two ago had a impeccable successful record with not a single bad review in site until about a year ago where some people have been talking down the clinics new move into a bigger and better facility and there thoughts that now he focuses on quantity over quality and they feel there results are a response of this and don't worry i will come back to this. Anyway, after compiling my list of ;clinics to pick asmed came out on top. I thought that the doctor, staff and website were all very professional looking and that with an array of good reviews (minus a few poor ones) made me feel safe going with this clinic. NOTE: for the record i personally believe hair transplants at the end of the day are the flip of a coin. not in the sense its a 50/50 chance you with get a good result but rather even if both the clinic and patient do everything right even then there are still things that can go wrong it seems so you never have a 100% chance at success with this procedure so always keep that in mind. I will run you through the process at ASMED and my experiences with the process. The Before: You apply online with photos and you will be assigned a co ordinator who speaks your language and is someone who you can ask questions and they will do the initial analysis of you getting basic information from you such as age, amount of hairloss, are you using fin? etc etc. If you tick the right box's she will then pass your photos and conversation onto Dr Erodgen himself who will review your situation and let you know whether you are suitable or not. For me this is a big tick as it shows he does not need the business and would rather instead make sure he can make a real difference in doing what he does best and give you the hair transplant that will accommodate for you now and also consider your future hairloss and what comes with that instead of what happened to me in 5ish consolations beforehand where i felt like they were selling me a product trying to rush me into a htp and trying to give me the cheapest price. Pricing is also something worth noting at ASMED as he is not cheap like the rest of Istanbul infact he is one of the most expensive dr's in all of Turkey but in comparison still cheap charging 2.5 euro per graft opposed to USA where the average is around 5 Euro per graft. And also for me my co ordinator was Suzana big shout out to her as she was wonderful always letting me know what the next step was and always comforting me and even though i knew this was her job i quickly forgot that once i got to the clinic and we started to just get along well and it really does make you feel a lot more relaxed knowing you have someone you can speak to through every step of pre, during & post the procedure. The During: So once a date is conformed and your funds are sorted you are next to make a 1000 euro deposit and to begin booking your flights, i originally didn't think much of flying to Istanbul but living in Australia flying to Istanbul is the other side of the world where including the 5 hour stopover in Bangkok it took me 24 hours to get to Istanbul and i will be honest i was very doubtful of myself the entire trip there as here i am at 21 year old not travelling alone before flying all the way to Istanbul to get this procedure done. However, once arriving at ASMED my doubts quickly disappeared. once arriving at the airport with a total of 1.5 hours sleep i was picked up by the ASMED driver and taken to the facility which was very modern and nice and is just under a year old and is apparently same design just an upgrade from there old facility. Also I'm not sure if it is a turkish thing and women are just good looking there but the staff at ASMED were all damn fine and always had a smile on there face. When you arrive you are taken to your room (thats if you are staying in the ASMED rooms) which was nice, no complaints there. Next your coordinator will come up and meet you in the eating area where patients who were being operated on that day were sitting in their ASMED uniforms all with shaved heads and drawn on hairlines which was bit strange when i first saw it but got use to it pretty quickly. Next, your coordinator will run you through the day and ask some more questions and get you to fill out some medical forms. Next, bloodwork is checked along with some other things. Next, you are sent to a waiting room where all patients that are being operated on the next day with you wait to see the dr himself for a final consultation before the money is handed over. It began with 3 patients but ended up with a total of 6 people waiting to see the dr which was abit alarming as 3 i was happy with and i believed they could manage 3 patients being operated on at once but 6 seemed like to much and i was bit worried. However, i am going to say now the team is very professional and they would not operate on 6 if they could not handle it and for those that don't understand how it is possible Dr Erodgen has employed surgeon who do the the taking out of the grafts and organising them aswell as the placement of grafts the DR himself simply does the most important part where the most error's occur this being the slits and incisions for where the grafts will be placed so if you view it like this he does only 1 step (the main one) of 3 steps so he truely can operate on 6 patients on 1 day so don't let that alarm you. Initial consultation: After waiting for what was quite awhile for the dr to Finnish surgery patients for today i was called upto his room where we shook hands had a small talk about where i was from and if i plan to taken fin long term etc etc then he stared assessing my donor area and grafts in general. I am going to just quickly say i was sure i was going to have a weak donor area. my hair doesn't go far down my neck nor does it go close to my ears and overall my head is small so that all adds up to a very limited amount of sq cm's for potential safe zone donor area to be used and i was almost certain he was going to asses it and tell me i have very limited options and i could barely accommodate for 1 single procedure and i had almost accepted this only to be told i had a donor area of around 8000 grafts which blew me away, by no means is this a crazy amount but it is average amount which i was very happy with meaning i have 5000ish grafts for future hairloss which is such a comforting feeling. So, for blokes who are worried about their donor zone not being suitable rest easy because you will be fine as the hair compacted in that area is just very dense. For how the dr. can just look at my donor and estimate its capacity without equipment was bit confusing but he is an expert so i trusted him and so have 1000s of patients before me. He next told me my hair density and hair thickness saying that my hair is quite thin so we would need about 48(i think) hairs per square cm and couple other things also telling me i had a pretty bad case of dermatitis (dandruff) which would need to be treated before tomorrow. He next asked what i wanted and i said my hairline lowered so he got a marker and started drawing a rough hairline and there were i think 2 other dr.s / surgeons that i think gave second opinions on his work and helped with the drawing of the hairline. I sat in a chair and he would draw some, step back look at my face, draw some more until he asked me to look in the mirror and ask what i thought. He said we can do it more aggressive if you would like and i said yes so he drew it again and i was happy with it. It then seemed like my consultation was over and i understand they are on a tight schedule but it all moved pretty fast and i almost forgot to tell him i wanted my temple points done so he drew those up aswell and told me it will be 300 grafts for each temple point and 3000 for the hairline coming to a total of 3600 grafts. I then shook his hand again and we then went to the finance room to pay. I'm going to be straight up and mine costed 3600 x 2.5euro (per graft) came to a total of 9000euro - 500ish euro for flight reimbursement cost so about 8500 euro total which was paid in full cash and they have a CASH only payment, quick note on that it is not as scary as it seems just have all the cash on you in a pouch around your waist for the flight there and you will be fine and also you can bring 10, 000euro into the country without question so it is not a problem. After payment you are taken to the barber place where you head is shaved by the nice turkish women as suspected my dermatitis was pretty bad and treated there with some stuff which got rid of it over night. Next you are taken to the photo room where your photos are taken of all angles and then taken to a high tech machine that slowly asses each square cm of hair on your head and measures its density and all of the single, double, multi grafts and it is here you can't truely see how dense your donor area is as it is all conveyed on a screen infront of you. Next you are taken to the next room where your rough drawn on hairline is finalised and this was interesting. You are sat in a chair with no joke about 10 ASMED staff in the room also being surgeon dr.s etc and also dr Erodgen and he begins drawing and the other dr.s are giving their opinions on what he is doing and it is like watching a master painter in his element. dr Erodgen is in the zone and draws and edits and asses some things and is all done with free hand no machines to draw a symmetrical hairline that everyone in the room agrees on for you to then view it in the mirror while they all look at you and await your response. I was happy with mine but if i wasn't i would of been bit nervous to go in there and tell them to do it again hahaha i don't know this part was abit strange but done very professionally. Again another hand shake with the Dr and all his staff gave me a smile as i left the room and the next patient went in there after me. I believe that was all for the first initial day and the rest of the day consisted of going up to the food area eat some dinner while talking to the patients that got operated on the day with their bandaged heads and catching up on some much needed sleep. For the other patients at the clinic its a strange thing having people from all over the world in my case people from Switzerland, Norway, New Zealand, Spain and me from Australia but its strange because you all have something in common and this is a common insecurity one this is big enough to make you come to this clinic from all over the world and get it done so that gives you all something to talk about and makes the experience a lot more comfortable as i ended up speaking with a lot of the boys there those 2 days about all my personal stuff on hairloss that i honestly haven't told anyone before so that was actually a good part just speaking with the other blokes during my stay. Surgery Day: early start with breakfast at 6am and surgery at 7;00 sharp, i was told to take antibiotics and a zanex that was given to me when i woke up. I was surprisingly not that nervous as after the first day i knew i was in good hands and i didn't let any nerves get the better of me and i walked into the surgery room with a smile and met all my surgeos that would be doing the procedure on me aswell as your coordinator right by your side running everything by you before it happens. I was given an iPad and told to sit in a chair with my chin sitting in the holder thing to sit my head in a fixed position so they could extract the grafts from the back of my head. First the local anestheisa injections which are very over rated, the pain was certainly bearable about a 6 or 7 out of 10 as far as pain goes and they did a total of like 10-15 injections all over the back of my head. After this is done they then get what felt like a pin and started poking the back off my head asking if i felt it and simply if i did they would inject more until i didn't, so it began... i put on a Joe rogan podcast and tried to forget there are sharp objects being pushed through the back of my head and i tried to not look into the reflection of the iPad as a couple times i saw a little to much blood that began making me feel uncomfortable but all in all this first step of 3 was fine and my only concern was the position you are put in with your neck down is extremely uncomfortable and i remember after about 20 minutes i was like sheit i don't know how much longer i can do this so i started counting down minute by minute in some pretty unbearable pain to only find out i wasn't even halfway through the extraction procedure, But as you do you man up and push through it and eventually it is done. Next you are bandaged up at the back of your head and given a 5minute lunch break were me and the other patient both talked about how much our necks hurt after that first part haha but so far so good for me atleast. Next you are taken back to your operating room for the long session where dr Erdogen himself does the incisions and slits for the rest of the surgeon to place the grafts into.This is obviously important as this is where the hairline is designed it shape, desity etc. Now for this part, man i got knocked the fuck out and i don't remember a single thing only faintly remembering seeing Dr Erodgens face for a brief second before i closed my eyes. it begins and they sedate you with something (morphine maybe, i might be wrong on that and they do tell you before they do it) and very quickly you feel like your having abit to much fun and then as i said i got sent straight through space and woke up who knows how many hours later to a real painful rubbing sensation on the front of my head. I was super startled as i forgot where i was and what was happening and i was in some pretty serious pain as the front area that was operated on was being washed and the surges were rubbing it was pretty unbearable. In my head for some reason i thought something had gone wrong and i woke up from a coma or something and i was pretty stressed. But quickly i calmed down and started grasping was was going on and relaxed again and took my headphones out and asked my corridnator what was going on and she said they are almost finished they have 100 grafts left and then its over and i was like holy shit i slept through the entire procedure, epic. The last 15 mins was yeah pretty painful and i asked for more injections to numb the pain but they said its not recommended as they would be finished soon so i just pushed through the pain and dealt with it until it was done. And that was that, all over. A serious blur but i would of way prefered that over being awake the entire procedure as i later found out other patients were. i then slowly got up and was taken to a sitting room of some sort. It was at this time i started feeling really cold and started shivering so i was given a blanket and after about 10 minutes i was back to normal-ish and actually felt pretty good considering what i just went through, later other patients came into the room some looking bit worse off than me as one was sweating pretty bad and looking pretty light headed. Next Dr. Erodgen came in and assessed the final work off all the implanted grafts by the surgeons and gave the thumbs up and this was the last time we saw him. Now we were put under a laser machine to help with the recover process and taken back to the photo room for a photo of all angles of our now pretty disgusting head. And i think that was it, we were told the rules of sleep with a neck pillow and some other stuff on medication we will need to take for the next few days and all went up had dinner and i went to bed and actually had a good night sleep before my first wash tomorrow morning and flight home tomorrow arvo. After: i think it was a 7:30am post op wash back in the barber room. Here you are shown how you are going to wash your hair for the next 10ish days and they do it for you here and you are given all the products needed with labels on them aswel as a usb stick with all photos of before and after aswell as other details from your stay. A barber actually came in and cut some of the boys hairs who did a partial shave and fixed it up to hide the transplanted area. And that was it i said goodbye to the ASMED staff and thanked them and also hugged my co ordinator and said goodbye and i went to my room to wait a couple hours for my pickup to the airport. Can honestly say i was kinda sad to leave which makes no sense as this procedure should be somewhat a traumatic experience and something you just want to get it over and done with but i don't know i didn't feel that way at all, rather i couldn't believe it was over and how smooth sailing the entire thing was. I next started looking in the mirror and tried to figure out how the fek i was going to cover this up on my way home and we were given a bucket hat to wear which i put on. I then went to the airport bit stressed about having to take the hat off even though i don't know anyone and would never see them again. Also it was pretty funny how many people at the airport had just undergone a hair transplant and were on their way home. Unfortaunly for them they were not wearing hats and i counted a total of 13 people from entering to leaving the airport who had undergone a FUE procedure. Now for my little hiccup that almost everyone seems to get atleast once, mine was when i was wearing this hat. I placed it loosely on my head and throughout the day it got tighter and tighter and since i just had surgery the day before the grafts were leaking and causing the hat to stick to my recipient area and i had this hat on for about 5 hours until i sat down on the plane (note ASMED advised me to take the hate off every 45 mins i believe to allow my head to breathe, but i couldn't pull myself to do it) and couldn't put my headphones in so i tried to lift the hat and i felt all the grafts sticking to it and holding it down. My face instantly went red and i started stressing and i was like what the fuck is wrong with me i have just blown a 9000euro procedure cause i was to scared for random people i have never met to see my head. I was sure when i was to take the hat off i would see hundreds of grafts attached to the hat and this was at the start of my 10 hour flight... i then sat in my chair over thinking this and stressing out until i finally got the balls to go to the aeroplane bathroom and slowly shift the hat from side to side to take it off. annnnndd, thank the lord no damage was done with all grafts intact and everything still looking the same. From here on out i wore it so so loosely on my head sitting on on my back of my head and barly on the front and made sure to take it off every 45 mins for a breather as this would further not give grafts the chance to stick to that hat even if that was possible which i later thought it probably was not... why? well these hairs are planted pretty deeply and firmly into your head and loose hat shouldn't be able to pull them out. However, keep this in mind that you will need to take it off from time to time and how i did this was if it was dark on the plane or at the airport i would go to a gate where no-one was and take it off for bit. Now, my ride home was a very eventful 26 hours, my swelling started once i got to the airport initially just in my forehead, and by the time i got to the stopover i had gone down my face into my eyebrows and unevenly spread across my lower forehead and i remember when i looked in the mirror for the first time on the plane i literally started laughing at my own face as i couldn't believe how fucked i looked. I was one of the unlucky few who got bad swelling and i can't stress enough how ugly it can make you look. I remember saying i should take a photo so people can know what your talking about but i didn't ever want to see this face again nor post it somewhere for people to see so here are some links so you get an idea what you can look like, i seriously looked like some sort of star wars alien and this further made me not want to take my hat off so i was caught in this problem off worrying I'm damaging grafts and taking it off only to have hundreds of people look at me. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=elephant+mans+head&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnxuTL4pXjAhVW63MBHY4kAwsQ_AUIECgB&biw=1285&bih=649#imgrc=Oy7S58xqNEIQ4M: https://www.google.com.au/search?biw=1285&bih=649&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=xA8bXZvKEKHYz7sPvN-okAI&q=star+wars+alien+head&oq=star+wars+alien+head&gs_l=img.3..0i8i30l2.111302.113523..114813...0.0..0.79.336.5......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0.yUT6wRjFIYU#imgrc=Nop23vXwpYsRLM: Progressively the swelling got worse and peaked by the time i got to Bangkok customs (i am staying in bangkok for 3 months studying before i go back home) here i stood infront of a camera sunnies and hat off feeling like the first alien to ever try get into Thailand and the customs people had some questions for me like, why am i coming into Thailand where is my proof of study etc but after some time i made it in and finally got to my room and relaxed. i quickly took my meds did my post op wash for the day and finally let my transplanted hair breathe. Overall: My experience at ASMED was 10/10 i cannot fault any part of the procedure and you get what you pay for. By no means is 9000euro cheap especially for me at 21years old trying to study a uni degree and pay this off over the next few years of my life But as i said you really do feel you get your money's worth as everything was done very well and at the end of the day if your going to go get this done and your hairloss means this much to you which it does if your getting it done in the first place you want that piece of mind knowing you have given yourself the best chance possible. My thoughts on my hairline writing this 3 days after the procedure is i love it i think it looks great and compliments my face and finally makes it all symmetrical which is what you want from a procedure like this. In saying that i like what i see but this is only the early stages, i will judge the final result after 12 months and hopefully it is similar to this density wise and there are NO double or more grafts placed in the hairline, that is what i am most stressed about and that is the work of the surgeon who picks and places the grafts in the already pre slit incisions done my Dr Erodgen so i can only hope they have done a good job. I can honestly say i am going to do pretty much everything known to man to compliment this hair transplant and give these hairs every chance possible to grow so me as an example can be a good one, good clinic, good patient (doing everything right) and we will see the final result because as stated sometimes things just don't go your way and your body won't accept all the grafts or whatever. Below are some photos of before during and after and a quick note i don't want any negativity unless it is constructive... please just be respectful and understand i am going through a stressful couple of months ahead and negative comments can plant bad idea's in post transplant patients heads and that is the last thing i need. Would like to know your thoughts on the hairline and ill post a couple swelling photos and i will make sure answer any questions you guys have. In regards to how often i will post, I'm planning monthly till month 6 then 3 monthly or maybe just 3 monthly in general, i will wait and see the response of this first. -
Hi Everyone! I want to thank you all for being such a great resource in my hair transplant journey. I used this site extensively to learn about hair transplants and I would like to share with you all my hair transplant experience thus far so people can benefit. My profile: Age: 27 Clinic: HDC Clinic in Cyprus Surgeon: Dr. Kyriakos Maras Date of Surgery: April 1, 2017 Type: FUE # of Grafts: 3200 I started my hair loss in my late teens, receding heavily at my temples. I wish I had done something much earlier to combat my hair loss as I have lost a lot of my hair in the front and top since then. I started shaving my head to a 2 the last few years after growing tired of a combover. How I found my clinic: I did a lot of research online and compiled a list of top clinics in North America and Europe. Then I contacted each clinic for an online consultation where I sent them pictures and videos of my hair. I found the best way to organize info I receive and to compare and narrow down the clinics to what suited me best was to create an excel spread sheet. I recorded many things which included the number of grafts they recommend, the expected hairline design, and price. After narrowing down a few clinics, I looked extensively at patient reviews on hair transplant forums to make sure people are getting great results. I found that Erdogan at ASMED produced wonderful results at a reasonable price, but had a long waitlist and wanted me to be on finasteride for at least 6 months. Several others like Bisanga and Feriduni also produced great results but was a little more expensive. HDC is a clinic that one of my friends had gone to about 6 months earlier than I did. He got good results from them and so did a lot of other people online. Their price was also a little lower than Bisanga and Feriduni. So after contacting them for a consultation, they made me feel comfortable with their level of service and I went ahead and set up a surgery. The transplant experience: The clinic made me feel very comfortable that I was in good hands the whole time. Dr. Maras and the techs that worked there were very experienced, professional, and courteous. I was picked up from the airport by a driver sent by the clinic and they provided free accommodations for up to 7 days. At HDC, Dr. Maras does the punching and excision and the techs do the extraction and placing of grafts. The techs have all been working there for a long time, so I felt very comfortable. The surgery itself took over the course of 2 days, about 4/5 hours each day. Like most people on here say, the most uncomfortable part was having to lie down in an uncomfortable position. There was no pain at all aside from the anesthesia injections. The clinic offers free accommodation for up to 7 days, which I took advantage of. Post surgery I went into the clinic everyday and got my hair washed by them and they made sure everything was going well. By the time I left Cyprus, the scabbing had already been washed off my head. Here is a picture with Dr. Maras 4 days post op. Swelling has gone down considerably by then. Vlog of my hair transplant journey: I feel the best way to share my experience with you all is through visuals rather than words, so I decided to make videos documenting my whole experience in a vlog format. I have just finished and uploaded my first two vlogs on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrXSnH6jHAsX1EIgXECbIhQ/videos Vlog #1 shows my arrival to Cyprus and getting picked up at the airport. I also give a tour of the apartment that I lived in for a week. Vlog #2 shows the first day of surgery where Dr. Maras provided my consultation and designed my hairline. I am spending a lot of time to try to make these videos professional (first time video maker), and will upload a new vlog whenever it is done. I hope that people will find these videos documenting the whole process helpful. I will post in this thread whenever a new vlog is uploaded, but you can also subscribe to my channel to be notified. I really appreciate your support! Progress pictures: I have just hit 5 months and have already seen a lot of results. Here you can see a before after shot of the top and front of my hair. You can see that my hairline has been lowered by quite a bit. The hair is looking really great in pictures and even in sunlight. However, up close I am really hoping the front will gain more in density. I will continue to post more old pictures that I took after the surgery and update you guys with my progress here. Also I made an Instagram account where I upload my progress pictures, so be sure to support, follow me there, and check that out too! https://www.instagram.com/hairplanter/ Current hair loss regime: I am currently doing the big 3 regime. I started finasteride in January 2017 and luckily had no side effects. The Minoxidil I started 2 months after surgery and Nizoral I just started a week ago. Nizoral has caused a bit of shedding after I incorporated it into my regime. I'm planning on continuing for longer before I decide if want to keep using it or not. 1) 0.5mg Finasteride daily. 2) 5% Kirkland Branded Minoxidil Foam applied morning and night daily. 3) 2% Nizoral shampoo used once a week. Thank you so much for reading my post! I hope that you find my content helpful if you are considering or have had a hair transplant. Feel free to reach out with any comments and questions. I look forward to providing more content for the hair loss community! -Hairplanter Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrXSnH6jHAsX1EIgXECbIhQ/videos Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hairplanter/ -
Hey guys my name is Zakaria i have already done hair transplantation i kept searching for the right clinic but it was hard as a lot of clinics had something about them that is off but then i came across this clinic AISHA HAIR great clinic good treatment and most of all the promise of great result as shown in thier results constantly i have done my hair transplantation with them in 11-9 they did 5000 grafts for me and you can see it in my pictures so what do you guys think? i belive it is great.
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Hello all, I just wanted to share a recent hair transplant experience I had of mine. A little backstory, about 8 years ago I was going out with a girl, and I thought that my balding would ruin my chances. So in a moment of weakness, I decided to go to the Philippines to get a cheap hair transplant because that's all I could afford at the time. I supposedly got a 2000 graft transplant, but the end result was sparse hair, somewhat wiry and also had pitting in some areas. The experience was pretty horrifying because after the procedure, I was bleeding pretty heavily and probably lost lots of grafts. I had scar procedure, because that was all that was offered, but thankfully the scar was horrible. A couple days after the procedure I was swelling so bad, I looked like I had elephantitis in my face, and I was really worried it wouldn't go down. Basically for the past 8 years, I've had to grow my hair long because it looked pretty unnatural otherwise. Going to the barbershop was embarrassing...I was lucky enough to find an understanding hair stylist a few years back. Fast forward to last week, where I had an actual 2000 graft transplant from Dr. Gabel in Tigard, OR. He and his staff were very courteous and thorough. He mentioned that a good portion of his patients are hair transplant repairs, which gave me a lot of confidence in him. Well, I also researched sites and forums like this and was pretty convinced that he was the real deal. He was great, I'm still recovering from the procedure, but it looks amazing compared to the results of my last transplant. I'm currently on my 3rd day post-op and just trying to be really careful to not mess it up. I've swelled up a little bit, but it just looks like I had a wisdom tooth removed. It was nice also, because I paid the upper estimate for the procedure, and it ended up that I didn't have as many grafts as the higher estimate so I'm getting refunded the difference. Basically, anyone who has suffered like me who has had a bad transplant from the past, give Dr. Gabel a try. He's honest, and he'll let you know what can be done. His staff is really supportive, and he seems to be really picky about who works for him, which is a really good thing. I haven't taken any personal pictures yet, but if you PM me, I can see what I can do. Also, if you're really thinking of getting a HT for the first time as well, don't go to anyone who doesn't have a good reputation like I did. If you don't have enough money, save up for a good doctor. Whatever you do, don't go the cheap route, because you'll more than likely have to get it repaired anyways, plus you have to live with awkwardness of having to cover up something that doesn't look natural. -
About five years ago, I got my first transplant done by a doctor recommended on this site. Being a desperate 21 year old, I kind of rushed into surgery without doing my research and it definitely came back to bite me on the backside. I had 3300 grafts placed however for some reason only a third of the grafts grew. Of course the clinic offered a free touch up but I decided not to take them up on the offer. Before my first surgery I was told I had thin, fine hair which would require higher number of grafts to cover the area. I consulted a few other doctors since I was unhappy with the density and a couple of them felt as if the result looked natural and made it seem like the result was what I should have expected, which kind of put me off having a second procedure done. Fast forward to this year and I finally took a plunge with a clinic in Turkey back in Nov, which is also recommended on here. The difference between the two procedures was night and day and I am really happy with how things are proceeding thus far. The main reason why I waited so long was because the initial clinic I got the procedure done from claimed my hair type was unfavorable for surgery due to the nature of my hair being thin and fine as mentioned earlier. However before my second procedure in Turkey the doctor measured my hair and determined that I had good density with medium hair, instead of fine hair as the other clinic claimed. Since then I have kind of been thinking about why both doctors would have differing opinions on my hair type. The first doctor did not measure it, while the second doctor did which is why I trust the second doctor more. Is it possible that hair characteristics change over time or am I right in assuming that the preop before the first surgery was done poorly
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