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  1. Fozzie
    Must admit, I'm surprised at how this procedure has turned out considering the previous progress photos. Things seemed to be heading in the right direction and remember seeing your 5.5 months picture of the crown and it looked to be coming along nicely but in these pics looks like growth has stalled. Frontal wise, I can definitely see the point about native hair being shocked. You still had a lot of native hair and apart from the crown, there wasn't what I'd call any real slick bald areas seeing as you were more of a Ludwig scale case rather than a Norwood one. Also believe you were on finasteride well before the procedure so also shows taking it unfortunately provides no guarantee that hair won't be shocked out. On a positive note, your donor area looks in good shape in the pictures.
  2. Fozzie
    Inclined to agree. You effectively had 3500 grafts in the front and I'd guess probably 700-800 of those grafts were used for just for the temple points meaning you probably had someone where in the region of 2700-2800 in the the temple areas,the area behind the forelock and the slight lowering of the hairline. The Dr Keser patient appears to have a stronger forelock and area behind it. Also your hair looks finer compared to his. I think the pre op pictures you put up on page 8 of this thread highlight just how bald you were in the front area.
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    Don't go to the same clinic. Unfortunately the big problem in Turkey is they seem to have 100s ( who knows, maybe even possibly in the 1000s if you start counting the small backstreet outfits?) of clinics but can probably count on one hand the only ones worth considering. Take your time before you consider your next move and get as many consultations as you can.
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    Personally, would be reluctant to lower the hairline any further for the reasons given by others. I may be wrong but your temple points seem to be quite low (closer to your eyebrows) and maybe not that defined/shaped which may make your foreheard larger than you think it is. Maybe some work could be done there to help with the look rather than dropping the hairline further. I'd run it by a number of surgeons to get their opinions before diving into another procedure to be honest.
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    There does appear to be some shock loss going imo. You are still very early in the journey tbh and at this point I'd suggest you try not to worry too much. Come across a number of cases where the donor areas 1-3 months post op don't look so great but after a couple of months things generally improve. Agree with Gasthoerer it would be good to see before pictures of your donor. What did the clinic say with regards to your donor hair? Also do you know what sized punch was used?
  6. Fozzie
    If you want to stay in Europe, look at surgeons in Belgium such as Dr's Bisanga, Dr Lupanzula, Dr Feriduni and Spain with Dr's like Dr Lorenzo, Dr De Freitas, Dr Couto (long waiting time though) and get as many consultations as your can. FUT could definitely be an option for you but I am noticing a lot of the European Dr's seemingly pushing patients towards FUE in recent times. If you go down the FUT route and want to stay in Europe, may be worth looking at the Hattigen clinic in Switzerland. As for the Danish clinic, makes no sense paying 9 Euros per graft when you can go to a top quality surgeons like H&W or Dr Konior in North America for probably near enough the same. Not similar with any well renowned clinics in Denmark and I'd probably dismiss that option, especially at the kind of cost.
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    I would avoid. Go to a more reknown/reputable clinic. If it really is a must to try and keep cost down and you want to go to Turkey, then you should look at Dr Keser.
  8. Fozzie
    Hairline looks just right to be honest. Best to play it safe if you are headed towards a higher norwood and if there's a chance you may not tolerate propecia. Plus you can always tweak a hairline and bring it down in the future but if you were to go too aggressive now and it didn't look great, more difficult to fix. Looks like good clean work as usual by Dr Bisanga.
  9. Fozzie
    Difficult to say to much without any background info. How many grafts for example? Pre op pic? Scabs look to have mostly come off which is good in and around the day 10 mark.
  10. Fozzie
    Echo what others have said....this is an obviously poor result and there have been far too many justifiably unhappy ASMED patients regularly filtering through.....seemingly even more so when there's lowering of a hairline involved. I'm not a huge fan of massively lowering hairlines but if someone chooses to do it, really do think the surgeon has to be heavily involved in the whole process. You are quite rightly not happy with the density and so best to look to put it right but as already mentioned, you should look to a surgeon who is heavily involved in the procedure.
  11. Fozzie
    Can stumble across results where there are slight imperfections but really wouldn't be overly disappointed if that is the only issue with your result. Yes ideally when you have a procedure, it's natural to want it perfect and not have to go through the hassle of getting in the chair again but going by your pictures, it will be a pretty small touch up to get it right.Overall think it looks good but again probably get a better idea by comparing before/after photos with dry hair.
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    Overall, think things have got better and better over time in your case judging by your pictures. Can see the area you are concerned about and imo that is what I say i'd call a genuine touch up case that doesn't require too many grafts to put right. Might be mistaken but the pre-op pics in this thread look to be with wet hair? Would be good to compare where you are now with a dry hair pre-op photo. If that is the only problem area, I wouldn't be too disappointed to be honest. I saw MarshallUK's thread where he met up with his surgeon Dr Bisanga after 12 months and the Dr mentioned one side was weaker then the other and he'd fix it for free. I'd say this could potentially be a similar situation provided that is your only problem area.
  13. Fozzie
    Looks like his hair loss has accelerated recently. Maybe he'll end up visiting Ronaldo's HT clinic when it starts up 😉.
  14. Fozzie
    There is a guy on here who used to post under the username 'acegik' a few years back.....believe he had 5000 grafts done at ASMED and 15 months later followed it up with another 4000 grafts with them.
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    On a unrelated topic, over the years I actually feel Joe Tillman's hair has regressed somewhat even though he is on finasteride. The hair doesn't look as strong as it was after his first few procedures imo and maybe lends credence to the fact that although hair in the safe zone is considered more resilient to DHT compared to hair on top, it isn't totally resilient, especially if someone is in NW 6-7 territory like he was. Maybe why some guys make the switch to dutasteride after being on fin for so long. However JT styles his hair very well and still looks good.
  16. Fozzie
    Personally, if I was down to my last few thousand grafts and wanted to give myself the best shot at resolving any specific issue I had with my hair, I'd be heading to either H&W or Dr Konior. I'd consult with both and get their opinion. Yes there are other surgeons whose work is great, but for me those two have an edge over the rest. Think you mentioned you've had some contact with Dr Couto and yes he has some fantastic looking results on his site and Youtube but as mentioned, not sure there are quite enough patient reviews out there. Saying that, think Gasthoerer has provide some useful advice.
  17. Fozzie
    You may well get away with a guard 2. A lot usually depends on factors such as: i) How many grafts are taken from the donor ii) The pattern the grafts taken out iii) Your hair to skin colour contrast. Looks like you have darker hair so that and your fair skin may potentially show up scarring more compared to someone who has both fairer hair and skin.
  18. Fozzie
    1) If you skin it after a HT, scar's will show i.e in the case of FUE small dots scattered about in the donor area. To what degree can vary sometimes from one person to another, but make no mistake scarring will be present. 2) With your level of loss, you should focus on the frontal area and framing off the face. 3) Can certainly combine a HT with SMP however if you are thinking about skinning it after a HT, you still have the same problem with scars showing in the donor area. Personally, if you are looking to buzz down to a guard 0/1, you may be better off just going down the SMP route with a reputable place and not going ahead with a HT.
  19. Fozzie
    Agree. I may be wrong but I seem to recollect the OP isn't using finasteride either so better of saving grafts for any future loss behind
  20. Fozzie
    That is great progress at only 4.5 months. Maybe you are good responder to minoxidil and it is really accelerating growth.
  21. Fozzie
    May be best to post a before picture to get an idea of the level of loss.....
  22. Fozzie
    Not entirely surprised by the result taking into the account the number of grafts, the area transplanted into and the hairline design. You had extensive baldness going into the procedure and think 2381 grafts was never going to be enough to give you a good result. Probably needed somewhere nearer the 3500 graft mark Don't think it's a complete disaster though, more a case of just not enough grafts being placed and density suffering as a result. Don't think it will take too much to get you where you want to be and your donor looks pretty good. In terms of the cost, believe Dr Diep is around $8 per graft for FUE. That is H&W and Dr Konior territory and with H&W now seemingly having more cases with them tackling more extensive balding with FUE, I know where I'd be headed if I had a budget of $8 per graft.
  23. Fozzie
    With a max budget of £2.5 per graft, you are probably limited to clinics in Turkey, Greece and India to be honest. Dr Bisanga works out of a clinic in Athens to and I believe the cost is 2.5 euros per graft so maybe something to consider. Apart from that, I'd be looking at ASMED, Dr Cinik and Dr Demirsoy in Turkey and as already mentioned Dr Maras from the HDC clinic in Cyprus. Alternative could be to save some more to enable you to widen the net somewhat so you can look at more options.
  24. Fozzie
    Agree. I'm guessing FarsanUK feels is heading towards a subpar result judging from his posts but would be useful to see exactly where the procedure has fallen short.
  25. Fozzie
    Tend to agree with this. Another thing I've noticed is ASMED seem to take an aggressive approach to temple points compared to a lot of other clinics out there. I recently saw a video by ASMED on youtube where a patient came in for a review and Dr Erdogan mentioned the patient had 400 grafts placed in one of his temple temple points. Now if the other side received a similar amount of grafts, that's in and around 800 grafts just on the temple points. Not an issue in itself however does become a problem imo when someone has had say 3000 grafts or so grafts go on lowering the hairline, reinforcing the area behind the hair line and temple points done. Obviously varies from case to case but there's a couple of cases here where patients haven't been happy and can't but help suspect the temple point work has resulted in the remaining grafts being a bit too thinly spread on top.
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