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  1. Sorry to see you are having to deal with this. Found the pictures immediately post op worrying to be honest. From what you've mentioned and the pictures you've put up, think I have an idea on who the Dr involved is and as already alluded to, although the donor area in a lot of the surgeons cases can be left in somewhat of a questionable state, the recipient area more often than not ends up with decent results. However this case appears extremely poor in every aspect. Going forward, consult with as many of the top surgeons about, especially those who deal with repair cases regularly and hopefully there can be some light at the end of the tunnel is this case.
  2. It is sufficient....main thing is sticking to the medication and giving it time. Personally, I'd stick to finasteride and minoxidil and see how you progress with that. PRP is something you could add although I'm totally won over with it's efficacy but it may be beneficial.
  3. Medication. Wouldn't even think about a HT if I were in your shoes.
  4. I think Dr Wong does some of the best crown work in the business. I'd be very tempted to stick with him for a crown procedure personally.
  5. The shedding post HT can vary between individuals. Some guys shed near enough all the transplanted hairs, others may not shed as much. Wouldn't worry to be honest.
  6. I don't really buy into the idea it is totally 'immune'. I believe the hair in the donor zone is more resistant compared to hair on top but over time I do think miniaturisation, albeit in a lot of cases very slowly, can start to take place, even more so in guys who are heading towards a higher norwood.
  7. There is quite a difference in donor scarring in the two pictures. As Melvin mentioned, scarring can vary somewhat between different people but do you know what size punch was used in your first procedure in 2013? Considering Debs1982 had 5000 grafts in his first procedure, the state of his donor area is pretty impressive imo.
  8. Can see your concerns, especially in the 3 month post procedure pictures. Fingers crossed there is just some shock loss involved and there is some improvement in the coming months. Personally, if someone has had a fairly large 4000-5000 grafts FUE as their first procedure, think one needs to tread fairly carefully in any subsequent procedures and smaller procedures are better imo. Regardless, looking at your pre-op pictures, totally understandable why you only wanted the crown worked on and that's it. Certainly do not like the sound of the clinic almost cajoling you into an extra 2000 grafts. That is poor form imo and very disappointing to read. If you were happy with the frontal area and only the crown was discussed in the online consultation, it should have been left at that......simple. End of the day, it's about meeting the patients expectation.
  9. Your crown doesn't look slick bald. Lot's of miniaturised hairs which finasteride could possibly help bring life to. If you can tolerate and commit to finasteride, I'd be tempted to see if it can help turnaround things in the crown area first. Obviously depends on how you respond to it but worth a go imo.
  10. Clear improvement and overall you are heading in the right direction. 5.5 months is still early and wouldn't worry too much about density at the moment. I'd certainly be happy with how things are going if I was in your shoes considering your pre-op situation.
  11. Depends on what you are looking to achieve really. If you are open to using and sticking to medication, maybe give finastaride a go for a year or so and see what it can do for you, especially the crown before you go in for another HT. Did the surgeons you've consulted with give a breakdown of where exactly their quoted number of grafts would go? On a separate note, wasn't aware Dr Bisanga is running the clinic in Athens on his own now, when did that happen?
  12. Agree with Abi28......for the clinics who operate up to the 3000 euros price point you are taking a big risk. Save up some more at the very least for someone like Cinik or Demirsoy if you want to go to Turkey.
  13. Congratulations on your new hair. This is a tremendous outcome considering where you started off from.
  14. When you are genetically hard wired to lose hair, supplements are not going to do anything to prevent/change that, even more so when you look at the quality and at the recommended dosages of most supplements out there. Ultimately like trying to fix a crack in a dam with a band aid imo. Yes may help anything you still have on your head look healthier but won't stop it from miniaturising and eventually dying. After a HT or alongside medication, think they can definitely aid in getting the most out of your hair.
  15. Must admit, I'm surprised at how this procedure has turned out considering the previous progress photos. Things seemed to be heading in the right direction and remember seeing your 5.5 months picture of the crown and it looked to be coming along nicely but in these pics looks like growth has stalled. Frontal wise, I can definitely see the point about native hair being shocked. You still had a lot of native hair and apart from the crown, there wasn't what I'd call any real slick bald areas seeing as you were more of a Ludwig scale case rather than a Norwood one. Also believe you were on finasteride well before the procedure so also shows taking it unfortunately provides no guarantee that hair won't be shocked out. On a positive note, your donor area looks in good shape in the pictures.
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