H & W Doug Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Vancouver area patient in his early 30’s. Without the proper initial research, he fell victim like many others who might have felt that there may not be a big difference from one clinic to another. Likely influenced more by cost than quality, he chose a clinic in Istanbul for his first hair transplant. As can be the case with many locations, there can be a number of choices, not all created equal. As this site has stated for many years: “Be Careful!” It did not turn out as he had expected and he wanted to correct the previous work and achieve his original goal of a nice hairline with good density. Upon evaluation of the work done in Istanbul, Dr. Hasson noted the hairline and tissue exhibited ridging, cobblestoning, misdirected hair, multi-hair grafts, low density, etc. All of these conditions are unnatural and can draw the wrong type of attention. Today’s modern hair restoration should never present any of these conditions. Excision of some grafts inappropriately placed that blunted the temporal angles would also be required to achieve the most natural result. Shortly after his initial consultation, he came back to the clinic to have the offending 95 misdirected grafts in the temporal angles removed ( see photos with marker highlighting areas to remove). When the temporal angles have been improperly blunted especially with hairs pointing in the wrong direction, removal is often necessary if the most natural looking hairline is to be created. In some cases, we can work around poorly executed previous work but to what degree and with what sacrifices if any is determined case by case. Dr. Hasson and team then later rebuilt a new hairline blending into the frontal zone with 2,000 grafts via FUE. 343 grafts were single hair, 1329 were double hair grafts and 328 were 3-4 hair grafts. These photos were taken 1-year post-op. GRAFTS REMOVED PRIOR TO HAIRLINE RECONSTRUCTION: Edited March 7, 2019 by H & W Doug typo I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bman3082 Posted March 7, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, H & W Doug said: Vancouver area patient in his early 30’s. Without the proper initial research, he fell victim like many others who might have felt that there may not be a big difference from one clinic to another. Likely influenced more by cost than quality, he chose a clinic in Istanbul for his first hair transplant. As can be the case with many locations, there can be a number of choices, not all created equal. As this site has stated for many years: “Be Careful!” It did not turn out as he had expected and he wanted to correct the previous work and achieve his original goal of a nice hairline with good density. Upon evaluation of the work done in Istanbul, Dr. Hasson noted the hairline and tissue exhibited ridging, cobblestoning, misdirected hair, multi-hair grafts, low density, etc. All of these conditions are unnatural and can draw the wrong type of attention. Today’s modern hair restoration should never present any of these conditions. Excision of some grafts inappropriately placed that blunted the temporal angles would also be required to achieve the most natural result. Shortly after his initial consultation, he came back to the clinic to have the offending 95 misdirected grafts in the temporal angles removed ( see photos with marker highlighting areas to remove). When the temporal angles have been improperly blunted especially with hairs pointing in the wrong direction, removal is often necessary if the most natural looking hairline is to be created. In some cases, we can work around poorly executed previous work but to what degree and with what sacrifices if any is determined case by case. Dr. Hasson and team then later rebuilt a new hairline blending into the frontal zone with 2,000 grafts via FUE. 343 grafts were single hair, 1329 were double hair grafts and 328 were 3-4 hair grafts. These photos were taken 1-year post-op. GRAFTS REMOVED PRIOR TO HAIRLINE RECONSTRUCTION: Does removal of grafts leave noticable scarring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bman3082 Posted March 7, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 7, 2019 Sorry i mean removal of improperly placed grafts. Will there be noticable scarring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Legend007 Posted March 7, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 7, 2019 That guy was in the same situation as u bman .. sounds like it’s meant to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upshall Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Do they do unshaven FUT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Donor area pics before and after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted March 7, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 7, 2019 Nice repair job by H&W. I believe I’ve seen this patients Ht YouTube videos, would be great to see a thorough video of this result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Bman3082, In most similar cases, the tissue looks good after removal of the grafts and is not an issue. If the previous work has created a lot of scar tissue and disruption, the scarring can be a little more pronounced but I’ve never seen a case where it didn’t look much better than before the offending grafts were removed. I've even seen cases where the previous transplant was so bad that after the grafts were removed the change was so dramatic the patient almost considered leaving it without proceeding to stage 2 of the reconstuction! Upshall, We do perform some unshaven FUT depending on the number of grafts and how much existing hair is in the recipient area. But in the vast majority of cases, a shave of the recipient site to some degree is preferred. jj51702, I don’t have any good pre-op and immediate post-op shot of the donor but I’ve posted a couple of post-op shots below. Thanks CosmoKramer, We will have a video of this patient coming soon. I have also added a couple more pre-op photos that better show the 2 hair grafts just to the left center of the hairline and the large gaps between the grafts. I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Aftermath Posted March 8, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 8, 2019 Wow, looks absolutely fantastic. Another home run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Thx Aftermath! Maybe even better considering a "strike out" the first time up😃 I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upshall Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, H & W Doug said: Thx Aftermath! Maybe even better considering a "strike out" the first time up😃 Doug, How long after a bad procedure can the repair be done? Is 8 months enough or do you need to wait a full year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 Hey Upshall, Sorry for the delay, I meant to get back to you on your question sooner. It would depend on the extent of the previous work and how bad it is. In some cases we could start the repair at about 8 months, for others, we may want to wait until closer to the 1-year mark. Ironically, the worse the previous work is, the sooner it may be able to be addressed. I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sean Posted March 27, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 27, 2019 These are the types of repairs I need to see. Some folks are in worse condition but this gives some hope. Nice job and thanks for sharing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 27, 2019 Administrators Share Posted March 27, 2019 That is an excellent result, great documentation Doug 👏 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mycroft Posted March 28, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 28, 2019 I thought this guy looked familiar and then I saw the comment about the YouTube videos. For anyone interested in the progress from the patient's perspective he's got documentation from before his first surgery in Turkey running through his repair and final results with H&W https://m.youtube.com/user/fitnesswithsteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thatoldchestnut Posted March 29, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 29, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 11:01 AM, Mycroft said: I thought this guy looked familiar and then I saw the comment about the YouTube videos. For anyone interested in the progress from the patient's perspective he's got documentation from before his first surgery in Turkey running through his repair and final results with H&W https://m.youtube.com/user/fitnesswithsteve Just watched the videos, pretty good presentation from him. Such a pity he spent 5500 grafts considering his original loss but he definitely has the result he was looking for, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mycroft Posted March 29, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, thatoldchestnut said: Just watched the videos, pretty good presentation from him. Such a pity he spent 5500 grafts considering his original loss but he definitely has the result he was looking for, now. Yeah. He made a bad call at the outset but looking at the repair job you'd never know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member home1212 Posted April 2, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted April 2, 2019 I love to see amazing repair work like this! just wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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