Senior Member Wwiizzkkiidd24 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 lool and the debate goes on. I have to say after seeing the pics from the link above that it hasn't worked out well for him I don't know how many grafts or hairs he got but it looks really thin now. amd I have to agree with dutchie he would of been better served going somewhere else because for one it would of been a whole lot cheaper and second he would of got charged per graft and not hair as the do in harley street and thirdly he could of gone to a better surgeon like the likes of lorenzo. if I was on 300k a week and could afford and 20 thousand euro procedure I'd get straight on my private plan and get it done with him. he must cake he's hair in hair fibres going by them pics from the sun. luckily he's got a thick beard so the donor hair isn't all used up just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dolph1969 Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 It is thin, but he does have better facial framing than when it was previously badly receded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member delancey Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 Last time I checked, Dr. Lorenzo charges: 6K euros for the first 1000 grafts. 4K for the next 1000 grafts. 2.5 euros times x number of grafts (lifetime). Not a bad price for one of the very best clinics on Earth. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thatoldchestnut Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 I wouldn't say I feel sorry for him and lets keep in perspective. Bale is a multi millionaire and is lucky enough to have options available if he wants to deal with his hair loss. It's up to him whether he wants to deal with it or not. Players in previous era's were not so lucky and didn't have the same options available. I feel sorry for him in the same way I feel sorry for anyone who loses their hair. Because he's rich we shouldn't sympathise? :rolleyes: All the money in the world won't reverse a genetic predisposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Wwiizzkkiidd24 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yeah it's made some difference and framed he's face but I reckon he could've got a better result. hopefully the third time round can produce a better result,hopefully anyway. lorenzo is a top surgeon, amongst the best I think and he's not far from the UK at all. it's just a shame he doesn't cater for the not so rich. buthe I guess you pay for what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 I thought Rooneys hair looked great but he was obviously using a tonne of concealer. tHESE PICS SHOW 2 HT'S WERE A FAILURE...UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1255974/wayne-rooneys-two-previous-hair-transplants-appear-to-have-flopped-as-he-prepares-for-euro-2016-with-a-threadbare-rug/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20160610-_-Football-_-489161643-_-Imageandlink There you go. Thats what I was talking about. It looks like his surgeon transplanted DHT sensitive hairs, and those are now starting to fall out. I guess looking on the bright side he's just wasted a lot of money and perhaps he can still get a 3rd or 4th HT from a reputable doctor who will use good donor hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mlc2010 Posted June 13, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 There you go. Thats what I was talking about. It looks like his surgeon transplanted DHT sensitive hairs, and those are now starting to fall out. I guess looking on the bright side he's just wasted a lot of money and perhaps he can still get a 3rd or 4th HT from a reputable doctor who will use good donor hair He has had 2 hair transplants, we can presume 5000 grafts does he have anymore left in the tank for a 3rd or 4th? I mean he is a high norwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 He has had 2 hair transplants, we can presume 5000 grafts does he have anymore left in the tank for a 3rd or 4th? I mean he is a high norwood Well, the transplanted hairs that fell out were gonna fall out anyways had they not been transplanted and stayed in the back of his scalp. So he would have to wait to see how far his Norwood progressed and then go from there. I think his scalp is somewhat salvageable if he doesnt go severe NW7, and if he delves into beard hairs or other BHT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 He's headed for a NW6 to NW7 I think. His sides look okay though, his nape does not however. The key for him will be to go to a good doctor, and not a hairmill like Harley st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yiddo Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 He made a poor decision in the clinic he chose, he obviously didnt do much research. He also had his op done way to early...24 or 25 wasnt it ? Any ethical decent surgeon probably wouldnt operate on him now. He will be lucky if he even has 1000 grafts left. It would be pointless. Sadly for him, it looks as though he just isnt destined to have hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 Anyone noticed Graziano Pelle's hair? Looks like he might need a HT in 100 years or so... I think dear old Wayne would be best to just leave it alone for now and wait until he's retired (which I suspect will be about another 4/5 years). I think he probably had 4000-4500 grafts so far. His donor always looked a bit weak from day one (fine hairs, some possibly miniaturisation). Strip was out of the question but he may well have got a denser result had the option been there. As someone else said at least what he has frames his face. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mlc2010 Posted June 13, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 Anyone noticed Graziano Pelle's hair? Looks like he might need a HT in 100 years or so... I think dear old Wayne would be best to just leave it alone for now and wait until he's retired (which I suspect will be about another 4/5 years). I think he probably had 4000-4500 grafts so far. His donor always looked a bit weak from day one (fine hairs, some possibly miniaturisation). Strip was out of the question but he may well have got a denser result had the option been there. As someone else said at least what he has frames his face. Pelle has nothing on Giroud, who has the thickest mane ever I think Giroud could supply 10 people with hair transplants with hair from his scalp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted June 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 13, 2016 LOL...you guys are like me now, I always notice a full head of hair on some guys, but I also notice peoples patterns a lot more. The other day I was in a store and saw this guy who couldnt have been much older than 25 who had one of the worst NW7's I have ever seen. No hope for him unfortunately. And as I was watching GER-UKR yesteday I noticed their forward Zozulya who has one of the thickest forelocks around. I would think he's a good HT candidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member JeffC45 Posted June 14, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted June 14, 2016 Anyone noticed Graziano Pelle's hair? Looks like he might need a HT in 100 years or so... I think dear old Wayne would be best to just leave it alone for now and wait until he's retired (which I suspect will be about another 4/5 years). I think he probably had 4000-4500 grafts so far. His donor always looked a bit weak from day one (fine hairs, some possibly miniaturisation). Strip was out of the question but he may well have got a denser result had the option been there. As someone else said at least what he has frames his face. Funny because I caught a glimpse of the back of Rooney's head and could have sworn I noticed the faint sign of a strip scar. Not sure what other think, but I thought he had a strip procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted June 14, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 14, 2016 He made a poor decision in the clinic he chose, he obviously didnt do much research. He also had his op done way to early...24 or 25 wasnt it ? Any ethical decent surgeon probably wouldnt operate on him now. He will be lucky if he even has 1000 grafts left. It would be pointless. Sadly for him, it looks as though he just isnt destined to have hair. Everyone is talking bad about his transplant because he cut his hair short, the layering effect is gone. He has way more than 1000 grafts left, id say hes got about 2,500 grafts left plus bodyhair which hehas alot. This was back in october when his hair was longer, the sides are high and dense, i doubt theyll drop and if so not anytime soon. All he needs is another 1,500 grafts to the midscalp for added density, and to grow it out a bit longer and itll look really good. What kills rooney is his naturally thin hair, given his disadvantages he looks good, i dont think hell progress to a norwood 7 hes still a norwood 5 going on 6 his crown is still small, a norwood 6 has an expanded crown. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted June 14, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 14, 2016 I'm afraid he's wearing concealer in this photo. You can see the fuzzed/blurring especially in the crown and above the front temple. I would say without transplants he's full blown NW5 approaching 6. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Wwiizzkkiidd24 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) pelle and giroud ain't got nothing on novak djokovic though haha. I think rooney has quite a bit of donor left considering the clinic he went to they charge per hair I'd say he got 5000 hairs not grafts otherwise we in the realms of 8-10 thousand hairs and I dint think he got any where near that sort of number. so what ever 5k hairs works out in grafts ik not sure but it will probs be around 2000-2500 grafts so going by that I'd say he had ls a bit of donor hair left plus beard which appears strong so hope is not lost for Mr rooney just yet. Edited June 15, 2016 by Wwiizzkkiidd24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yiddo Posted June 15, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2016 Everyone is talking bad about his transplant because he cut his hair short, the layering effect is gone. He has way more than 1000 grafts left, id say hes got about 2,500 grafts left plus bodyhair which hehas alot. This was back in october when his hair was longer, the sides are high and dense, i doubt theyll drop and if so not anytime soon. All he needs is another 1,500 grafts to the midscalp for added density, and to grow it out a bit longer and itll look really good. What kills rooney is his naturally thin hair, given his disadvantages he looks good, i dont think hell progress to a norwood 7 hes still a norwood 5 going on 6 his crown is still small, a norwood 6 has an expanded crown. He is wearing concealer, its obvious.....he does for alot of games because he is under the camera. He has had 2 fue already....no surgeon will get another 2500 out of him. Even if the did its all minuterized hair, its dying hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yiddo Posted June 15, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2016 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1255974/wayne-rooneys-two-previous-hair-transplants-appear-to-have-flopped-as-he-prepares-for-euro-2016-with-a-threadbare-rug/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20160610-_-Football-_-489161643-_-Imageandlink You cannot say that this is good and he has 2500 grafts left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted June 15, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2016 He is wearing concealer, its obvious.....he does for alot of games because he is under the camera. He has had 2 fue already....no surgeon will get another 2500 out of him. Even if the did its all minuterized hair, its dying hair How could he have had 2 FUE's if he has FUT staples in that pic?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dolph1969 Posted June 15, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2016 Reading through this thread, we're worse than women discussing their favourite Kardasian... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted June 15, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 15, 2016 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1255974/wayne-rooneys-two-previous-hair-transplants-appear-to-have-flopped-as-he-prepares-for-euro-2016-with-a-threadbare-rug/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-TheSunFootball-_-20160610-_-Football-_-489161643-_-Imageandlink You cannot say that this is good and he has 2500 grafts left I cant say for sure he has 2,500 grafts left i can only speculate just like you, the fact that hes had two transplants means nothing. Ive had two transplants as well, ive gone to see different physicians in person (examined thoroughly) and ive been told i have over 1500 grafts left. Rooneys donor doesnt even look close to depleted. I also dont think hes had many grafts, maybe 3000-3500 tops certainly not 4000-4500. Typically even lower average donor density have about 5,500 grafts to give. By my speculation, 3000 grafts plus 2500 puts him at 5500 grafts not including beard. Its certainly not implausible to think he got 1500 grafts first go round then another 1000-1500 second time. Another thing to consider is lighting hair characteristics and hair length, those photos expose the weakness in the transplant, every transplant can be exposed in certain situation's especially high norwoods. Rooney got the trifecta extensive loss, thin hair diameter, and large head size. Everything considered he looks good in my opinion. Certainly has room for improvement im sure he will in a few years. Ive seen worse outcomes with more donor depletion get fixed. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yiddo Posted June 15, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2016 How could he have had 2 FUE's if he has FUT staples in that pic?? He hasnt had fut...they arnt staples...he has had 2 fue operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted June 25, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 25, 2016 Speaking of celebrities, Steve Ballmer has to have one of the worst Norwood 7's I have ever seen. If there was a Norwood 8 he would be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted June 25, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2016 Speaking of celebrities, Steve Ballmer has to have one of the worst Norwood 7's I have ever seen. If there was a Norwood 8 he would be it He's actually a legit norwood 7, that is a true Norwood 7, the lateral humps on the sides must be completely receded downwards close to the ear to be considered a true norwood 7. That's why it's ridiculous to say Rooney is a norwood 7, he's not even Norwood 6 without the transplant's he'd be a norwood 5. Now Jon Polito, he is a norwood 8 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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