deeznuts

jeez that's amazing. lots of people use even 2500 grafts for something like that. I always wonder though, hows the density feel like?

So many guys would kill to have a full head of hair with no recession and this guy wastes it on having Jim Carrey's hair in dumb and dumber

Just wondering, did Dr. Cinik request you write a review? Seems kinda odd to me that a patient would make their first post on a hair transplant forum AFTER their procedure instead of when they're doing research and trying to figure out the best option for them

I think good doctors can achieve early growth a lot of times because they reduce the amount the grafts are handled and that minimizes the trauma to the grafts. No guarantees though

There's a ton of desperation that shouldn't be there when making a decision. Please don't let your mental state cause you to do something rash

I thought the trauma was what made them fall out but sometimes the hair survives the trauma?

Are you planning another transplant? I'd love to hear about your thought process on picking a clinic

I think Eugenix uses implanters with premade slits right? Is the work break down still the same when using implanters? I think in Spain, the doctor is the one using the implanter pen while the techs load it.

5GBP per graft is too much lol. That's probably more than you'll pay anywhere else in continental Europe and continental Europe has some really good doctors. Good choice on going to Dr. Bisanga imo. I kinda understand though why Dr. Arshad might raise the price. Usually difficult surgeries get a price bump (i.e. HIV, repairs, etc). Good luck.

Meds might help with the crown but I'm not sure how much you'll get out of it in the hairline though you might see solid gains in the hair lines as well. You have a lot of hair to lose so it's advisable you get on meds before a transplant. Everything between the crown and the forehead can be lost if you aren't doing something to preserve it

Yeah that's textbook NW7 imo. The lateral humps are gonna go and the crown dips way low. You can really see a classic horseshoe developing. Well, NW7 isn't exactly the ideal candidate. You have less donor hair available and a large area to cover. Plus, it's gonna be expensive to cover an entire scalp... That's gonna be 6, 7 or 8k grafts. Throw in some body hair as well. And maybe SMP. You could end up spending a ton of cash Like everyone else said, do a consultation with Eugenix but trying to fix it will require you to lower your expectations, shell out some serious cash, and be ready to spend a few years going down the hair transplantation path

Yeah do it up man. I'd love to see a video of the clinic and hopefully the COVID stuff has blown over by then. Any plans on the date?

I was actually expecting to wait lol. All the doctors I consulted with had wait lists. H&W I think was probably close to a year as well I think? Couto's wait list is not as bad as people make it out to be though still monstrous. I shot a message to Dr. Couto out of due diligence and his rep basically said they're opening consultations starting next year. If you're lucky, I think the consult might take a year for him to get back to you? Then surgery the year after but don't quote me on that last part. All I know for sure is that he's opening consultations beginning of next year. Could possibly have a transplant by 2023/2024. I'm looking forward to sharing my results. I feel like I owe it to the community since everyone here's been super helpful. I just hope Dr. De Freitas doesn't mind someone named DeezNuts leaving him a review...

I agree with Dr Bicer. If it was just the temples, I would have pegged you at 2500. But it looks like you've got loss behind the forelock and probably in the forelock as well and they may be looking to add density in certain places as well.

You might have to wait like 9 months lol. They're tentatively giving me a date in the middle of May. I'd love to do a writeup but all I'd have to write about right now is just consultation stuff. Dr. De Freitas seemed like a no brainer to me. He just has page after page of guys coming out of their transplant with NW1s. I found a ton of results of him working with my hair type/hair quality getting the end result I wanted (NW1) from similar starting points. It almost seems like his whole clinic just has guys coming out with perfect hairlines lol. Money wasn't really the major contributing factor since I had enough savings to pay for H&W or maybe even Konior if I really wanted... Though I'm not sure I could have comfortably paid for Konior... (Can anyone?). So picking Dr. De Freitas wasn't really heavily motivated by money. He really just had great results and the value aspect of it came second. But that's not to say Dr. De Freitas didn't also offer exceptional value as well which I found to be a major boon. My only gripe is that Dr. De Freitas doesn't accept AMEX. If only Dr. De Freitas accepted AMEX... I could've paid for a vacation in Spain with the rewards points...

Nice. I saw your result and TorontoMan's too. I was really impressed by Rahal but his reps just ruined it for me. I filled out some form on Rahal's website and the guy called me on a Saturday morning trying to get my photos. I think he sent like 2 or 3 follow up emails too. Just couldn't go to a clinic like that. Rahal's reps really stuck out to me as a bit unprofessional imo. It almost felt like they were trying to sell me a timeshare instead of a medical procedure. I had really great experiences with Dr. De Freitas's reps as well as H&W's so shout out to those guys. I'm actually in the process of going with Dr. De Freitas. I've just about reserved a spot but I just can't figure out how to earn credit card rewards on a bank transfer lol. But once that happens, I'll probably have a date set. I figure if I'm spending ~11k or so, I might as well get some points out of it. I thought about posting a thread but I'm like 9 months out at this point

Is there a reason you wouldn't just do topical dut from the start? I mean if there are less side effects like claimed, then wouldn't it be superior?

I had a pretty terrible experience with Rahals sales reps. Those guys kept harassing me and really made me not want to go to Rahal

I actually consulted with Dr. De Freitas and his sessions aren't huge sessions. For example, Dr. DF recommended 2600 grafts for me over 2 days. So basically 1300 grafts a day. Which if you had 3 patients like me, that's still a hair under 4k grafts in a day.

I can't take a picture of the back of my head for the life of me but my neck hairline is roughly where leo dicaprios is.

I think my hairline extends to just around the bottom of my ears. Is that considered high or retrograde alopecia?

I've seen results where patients go from looking NW5 to NW0. They definitely exist. So to me that's not an impossible result. The way I see it is that most clinics and even hair mills are not incapable of getting good results. Clinics will get good results and bad results all the time. Maybe one patient might get really lucky with the harvesting and have close to 0 transected grafts for example. Maybe you luck into the star technician who happens to deliver fairly consistently. The biggest thing imo is the consistency of results. Even the worst player on the French national team can score a goal, but only the best players are scoring consistently. Hair transplants are kinda like penalty kicks, you only get a few chances to make it, so it makes no sense to send out your worst player or even an average player when you can send out your best payers. So don't be like England

Sorry, I meant the Norwood scale. Actually you might be 5A assuming you dont have any crown loss just yet

Dr. Nadimi is Konior's protege... So I'd say probably not. And Konior has a pretty good argument for the best transplant doctor in the US. So I'd say she's not as good as Konior because it's arguable that no one is as good as Konior. Maybe Konior is Trout and Nadimi is Ohtani lol. I've actually seen some people with a bit of loss in the forelock. Usually it's just a smidge where maybe there's a spot missing and you don't really notice it unless you're paying attention to it lol. I think Ludwig scale is just diffuse thinning throughout though never truly going bald. His pattern looks kinda like a 3A/4A... Just the way it thinned out looks really unusual.

Are you South Asian? I think South Asian hair would probably be more along the lines of Caucasian hair wouldn't it? I think when talking about hair, Asian usually refers to East/SE Asia. Just wondering cause your username is Rishi and I've never seen an East/SouthEast Asian with that much hair on the back of their hand man