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  1. Melvin- Admin
    Man what you described is exactly the mold that hair restoration is moving towards, multiple surgeries at the same time, techs doing the whole surgery, Dr. Doganay has gotten a lot of bad rep, but even Dr. Feriduni does this, that's not acceptable, if I were you, I wouldn't risk precious grafts on a surgeon that already failed, ask for a refund and go elsewhere, and make sure you ask the doctor valid questions like how much of the procedure are you actually involved in, hoe long have your techs been working with you, and are these the same techs that do surgeries with you or are they different techs every surgery? Remember paid representatives have vested interest in the clinic, do your own research speak to real patients with no monetary incentives good luck man I hope this gets resolved.
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    Nobody expects a doctor to do the implantation themselves, however it should be expected that the doctor for perform at least 50% of the extraction and 100% of the recipient sites, the implantation of the grafts at that point could be done by the technicians, also and most importantly these technicians should be technicians that are always performing the surgeries with the Doctor, it shouldn't be different technicians working on different patients doing basically the whole surgery, that may be popular in turkey and India but by no means should it be considered the gold standard in running a hair restoration clinic, as a matter of fact that's considered a hair mill where sales is the objective instead of quality and patient care. Sadly, this is becoming the norm with a lot of clinics, as patients and consumers we should not except this at all, there is no consistency no quality control in technician based clinics, personally, I would rather Dr. Doganay raise the price per graft and maintain consistency and quality rather than shift to a technician based practice where sales is more important than quality and consistency.
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    I agree, I'm not saying a clinic should get away with poor results or treating patients that way, my point was that this clinic is being singled out, but so many other clinics engage in this behavior and get away with it, that's why we shouldn't focus as consumers on just this one clinic, this change should be demanded from the industry as a whole.
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    I can't help but feel kinda bad for this clinic, just because I don't think they're doing anything different from a lot of clinics, there's a famous FUE practitioner that can't be mentioned on this site, that got in to law suits got busted for staff promoting his clinic pretending to be patients, and nothing's happened to his practice, I feel like this clinic literally messed with the wrong patient, but I think we need to raise questions as patients and consumers, this industry has always had problems with ethics and code of conduct from snake oil sales man, onion juice pushers, it's an industry built on predatory sales pitches preying on the insecurity of mostly young men, let this be a cautionary tale to potential patients and clinics alike, questions must be asked and answers must be provided,starting with honest review of hairloss and donor capacity with a discussion regarding preventive measures. Second how much of the surgery is being performed by the surgeon? and what type of training do the techs have? Are they fly by night techs for hire? These things must be discussed prior o agreeing to have surgery or prior to agreeing to operate on a patient, this what is best for the patient and practice in my opinion.
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    Sam everything you've described is normal, donor shock loss may have occurred and can take up to six months to grow back, donor area discomfort is also normal as the nerves are healing, it should be getting better each month, the transplanted hair will first begin to show as a thin vellus hair and will continually thicken as the months progress, it will fully mature between 12-18 months, you're only 3 months so patience is key.
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    This is the way I look at it, the money you'll lose from a flight you'll make back, but the grafts that could be lost you'll never get back.
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    Topical fin I'm not sure its efficacy but it will give you systematic effects just like RU58841, but less likely and you can tweak the ml and how often you take it, unfortunately what's done has been done, best thing for you to do is map out a long term plan, speak to a good reputable physician and figure out something long term, given your limited donor and high Norwood, they may need to remove some grafts in your current hairline (if they grow) and rebuild a more mature hairline, are you willing to try SMP and body hair for the crown? These might be viable options, I was pretty much in your shoes, but even worse cause most of minituarized hair had fallen out prior to surgery, and I have a limited donor, you can still make it work you just have to be resourceful and make no more mistakes, I was lucky that my first surgeon was ethical and placed 1,800 grafts an inch behind the hairline I had so my midscalp was addressed, now I went ahead and filled in my existing hairline knowing the risks, now for my lateral humps I will attempt another 800 grafts risking slight donor depletion to make sure I don't get an island of hair, and the crown will be SMP and body hair just for coverage. I'll probably do smp to the donor area as well so I could keep my sides shaved at a zero without the depletion being too obvious.
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    I experienced ED with finasteride when I was 21 didn't even know it was the meds I just took it without looking up the sides, typical 21 year old move, I visited the dr and told him I was on fin he told me the list of sides I was freaked out lucky it wasn't permanent, then in my mid 20's I took dutasteride cause I was desperate, I didn't experience ED but I had retrograde ejaculation, it was the weirdest thing ever, I love hair but I pick my penis every time over hair, do you mind PM'ng me your diet? But on a side note, paleo why don't you at least try the meds at a very low dose every other day? I started off on proscar cut in to 1.25mg if you buy propecia you can cut them in half and take 0.5mg it might not give you sides, if you get them stop taking it simple as that. I don't take it because I personally get sides, but you may not get sides, at the very least you should be on lipogaine and regenpure shampoo.. The before picture you posted is the biggest reason why in encourage every guy to shave their head before deciding to have surgery, one to see if they could accept looking bald, and two shaving your head really shows your hairloss especially once it's growing back, there's no layering effect anymore and it will reveal your true hairloss.
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    I reckon once you start growing the top out its going to look pretty dense, for 1 month, already looks good, lucky you didn't have to deal with the whole looking worse before better thing happy growing:D
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    wow home run results, generally those of south Asian descent have fantastic hair characteristics, for less than 4K grafts that's quite the result, are you taking finasteride or minoxidil?
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    Hey Stinger, any updates?
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    Looking good for 6 months why not toppik instead of dermmatch?
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    I agree 100% this doesn't just occur in foreign countries, it occurs in North America however at twice the price.
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    Technicians doing 100% of the extractions is not good, especially when there are different technicians doing extractions, swooping said he had two males do his extractions, paleo had two females, and although paleos results are premature at 5 months there should be clear growth which there's not, this inconsistency is large in part due to the fact that different technicians are performing extractions and implanting the hair, in Dr. Doganays YouTube video he clearly states that he does 100% of the implantation with the choi implanter now it turns out he's only doing some of it, due to this fact I feel that the clinic should no longer be recommended, when operating a clinic that is mainly technician based results will vary greatly and consistent results are not expected, because of the fact that different technicians are doing procedures much like commercial chain clinics. Although, you say the technicians have been professionally trained, skill set will vary from technician to technician, that's why I feel it is imperative that the surgeon play a large role in the procedure, i don't see a problem with a senior tech assisting in the extraction process and separation of the grafts, but creation of the recipient sites must be 100% done by the physician, if the clinic goes back to performing surgeries that got them the awesome results that made them famous, then after a few years of consistency it would be okay to review for recommendation, but at this point the clinic should not be recommended. I think I speak for everyone when I say money is not the issue, finite grafts are priceless and once they've been wasted there's no getting them back unlike money.
  15. Melvin- Admin
    In my opinion, incorrect donor assessment and future hairloss assessment is minor to the real issues, which are that he does not do any extractions, and he utilizes different technicians which will yield inconsistent results and most of all, he only implants a little over half of the grafts, so essentially his practice is 75% technician ran, this absolutely unacceptable, one could argue that paleo should've researched his own hairloss and had a better plan for himself, and that's partially true, but what can not be excused in anyway shape or form, is that the surgery itself is being carried out almost entirely by technicians and different ones at that, which means even the most knowledgable patient who has a plan mapped out will not receive consistent results. The creation of the recipient sites requires anatomical knowledge of the follicles to ensure the follicles are placed at the right angle that mimics the patients natural hair, artistry is required in the creation of recipient sites, that's why the best physicians don't simply dump grafts on the head, how on earth could this be left to a technician to do?? My vote is that the clinic not be recommended anymore, which is sad cause I though this clinic were at the very top of FUE but in light of the recent discoveries my mind has completely changed.
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    Did Dr. Doganay create the recipient sites first? that's the most important aesthetic portion of the surgery that's what will give you the angle and direction of the follicle to make it look natural, I can't see tech's being allowed to do this, if so thats terrible.
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    2,500 may be to little for you I don't know, have you been examined by a hair restoration physician, hair characteristics skin to hair color contrast, and head size all play a role in how many grafts you'll need, just because 2,500 grafts may be to small for someone doesn't necessarily mean its not enough for everyone. Generally though 2,500 grafts should be enough to cover the hairline to midscalp, Dr. Konoir's result was legit because he did not use favorable lighting and he also did a topview shot which really shows you what the results are and his patient was almost completely bald. Here's Dr. Rahal's 2,500 grafts to the front to midscalp again this patient is even balder than Dr. Dieps patient was, so I don't see how you think Dr. Dieps results are unbelievable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXnYXMBYtVk
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    Why did nurses perform the extractions? And why did differrent technicians perform swooping's as opposed to paleo? Also, did the technicians implant the hair with the choi implanter? Overall these are the most concerning things as potential patients the community needs consistency, and from what's been presented by paleo and swooping it does not seem consistent.
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    I think you're hung up on something petty, he probably meant to say midscalp I don't know what doctors results you've been seeing but 2,500 grafts to the front third and midscalp with good yield should give good density, remember the graft count doesn't matter, what matters is the yield i.e growth of the grafts, nothing out of the ordinary at all, is there any agenda against Dr. Diep? Here's Dr. Konoir result 2,500 grafts to the front and midscalp, notice this guy was almost completely bald, now look at the density and coverage he got. Again I don't know who's before and after a you've been looking at but nothing screamed too good to be true about Dr. Dieps results. 2500 Grafts by Dr. Konior - Hair Loss Surgery - Before and After Gallery
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    I'm gutted for you bro, this is absolutely unacceptable, 6,500 grafts should've given you good density in the front and some coverage in the back, I will say though that it's an improvement to how you were before, but this doctor wasted about 5,000 grafts which is unacceptable. Who performed the surgery techs or the doctor? Were they different techs each day?
  21. Melvin- Admin
    What a load of bull, if the doctor didn't think your hairloss was stable why would he operate? I've been on minoxidil has two transplants and so far so good, sure finasteride may work better, but minoxidil is a proven treatment that's why it's FDA approved.
  22. Melvin- Admin
    What seems suspicious is that all of the sudden these accounts are created and literally the first post are on this thread in defense of a doctor or to highlight the doctors results, doesn't that seem strange? Swooping who is a legit patient already created a thread highlighting his results, he's been inquisitive but not defensive, he also has his own thread he didn't create an account to post his results on someone else's thread, in light of the recent discoveries this is odd to say the least. It's disheartening I had actually considered this clinic at the top of my list in FUE, what's more sad is that I still believe the doctor is good, but something along the way completely fell off, the exchange for quantity over quality seems apparent. Unfortunately, in this business quality is everything, when you're dealing with finite grafts it's imperative you get it right the first time. Keeping a skilled team is also important, but if different technicians are being used every surgery where is the consistency? These are things that should be demanded of a hair restoration clinic that is recommended on this site.
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    The dude07 for someone who went to college in the U.S your writing in English is poor, "but I want him to be my doctor" if you're speaking past tense it should be *wanted, all in all this post smells like 3 day old fish left in the sun it continues to look worse for the clinic.
  24. Melvin- Admin
    That is the smart way to address hair restoration in young guys, at 23 hed almost certainly headed for Norwood 6 by 30, those 2,500 grafts will allow him to style his hair still when he's 30 and look good.
  25. Melvin- Admin
    well said I agree.
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