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There have definitely been questionable posters praising Dr. Feller, the difference however, is that Dr. Feller never operated on paleo, if he would've no doubt he'd be in a similar situation, and this is not a dig at paleo at all, his tenacity has brought up some valid concerns that need to be addressed, this needs to happen more often, red flags include recent join date, a few post count, threads titles that are in all caps demonizing a certain procedure, and the most obvious disappearance of the "patient". Moderators should investigate these suspicious threads.

No technicians worked on me for my procedure, I wasn't awake most of the time, but I definitely remember technicians being involved with the extraction and implantation, I hope I'll still get a good result like this gentlemen, but it's troubling to think I may not for that reason.

Bill I think to maintain the integrity of the community the clinic has to be taken off the recommendation, it's troubling because I had always looked to Dr. Doganay as one of the worlds best in FUE, he certainly had a portfolio to back it up, but with all of the dissatisfied patients and the unethical abuse of creating fake accounts, the clinic simply can not be trusted. I don't see how they could have a rational and logical explanation for such behavior. However, fair enough allow them to explain what happened I will keep an open mind but the evidence is staggering.

I really wish you the best man, its always tough after you've been burnt before, but im sure this time is gonna be a success.

Id say go for it so long as you plan your transplant for future loss, be smart with your grafts and plan as if you're a Norwood 6 just to be on the safe side. Definitely being bald at 22 is way worse than being bald at 50, it still effects 50 year old guys self esteem I don't doubt that, but the social stigma adds insult to injury, your 20's are vital, whats the point in being bald in your 20's to wait and get work done when your 40 when the most important years of your life were spent bald.

how old are you? Typically the crown continues expanding with age, if you're on the big 3 it's best to wait hopefully it reverses the miniaturization process. The crown is best left conservative I'd say no more than 1,000 grafts currently at your present state, but again I don't recommend just yet, grow your hair out use concealer if you have to hold off on the HT.

I agree 100% paleo at this point there's no use in crying over spilt milk, what's done is done,the same way you decided to be proactive and combat hairloss, is the same way you need to approach your next step in helping your situation. Do you take minoxidil? It's better than nothing, it's maintained my hair fairly well over the past few years. I still think you have enough grafts to place that would look good in the years to come even if you go Norwood 6.

Thanks Tav for the detailed response, I also noticed that he answered my e-mail directly, that's so rare with physicians nowadays, I'm definitely going to set up a consult and see what he says, your results look very good at 7 months so no doubt he's skilled at FUE.

You still have some months to grow, and your face is framed, it's a big improvement from where you started which is what it's all about, honestly I think you need to do a combo, FUE+BHT+smp that's what I'm going to do. Good luck I hope you have more growth in the coming months.

How would you rate Dr. Umar? I'm seriously considering going to him for my 3rd procedure, but from what I've researched he's mainly known for his work on repairs.

Yea crown coverage is a pain, but the good thing is you only need enough so that you could use toppik, however frontal loss looks more obvious than crown concealment, also you can grow in to crown hairloss but you never grow in to not having a hairline.

Hell hath no fury like a dissatisfied HT patient. But seriously this is shady as hell, but I honestly don't think Dr. Doganay is the only one doing this, the industry is shady as a whole if you investigated a bit deeper I'm sure you'd uncover a whole bunch of other physicians. When I first started researching HT's back in 05-06 I remember hearing that you run a high risk going to a physician that isn't IAHRS, but really what goes on to being IAHRS? A membership fee if you're looking for ethics paleo I'm afraid you're looking in the wrong industry sadly.

Here's my thread, I'm a Norwood 6 average to below average donor density, my hair characteristics are fairly good though. Check out my profile too, you can see what I looked like before any procedures. I've had two FUE procedures totaling 3,900 grafts and I'm 3 months post op from my second procedure. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180319-3-900-grafts-norwood-6-7-dr-diep-dr-behnam.html

He has the right attitude, and his experiments are invaluable, this video further solidified my belief in minoxidil, it may not remove DHT from your body, but it maintains the hair you have even if it doesn't regrow your hair, this video provides proof. That's why if you don't take finasteride you should at least take minoxidil cause it's proven to work and it's definitely better than nothing.

Minoxidil has dramatically slowed down my hairloss, lipogaine is they minoxidil I use I find it had the best formula and carrier, people discount minoxidil as being useless, but it works, here's a video to show you how much it works, the guy in the video was under the belief that minoxidil was not working cause he was still losing hair, as soon as he stopped he literally lost all of the hair the minoxidil was maintaining within 6 months

You still have a lot of hair, I think the only guys not taking meds whilst getting a transplant are Norwood5, 6 and 7 guys who don't have much to preserve, what type minoxidil did you take? I switched from rogaine to lipogaine 2 years ago and my shedding stopped, I've pretty much maintained my same hair for the past two years, the carrier is important in minoxidil, that's why cheap generic Costco minoxidil is not as good. Being young, no hairloss stabilization and an aggressive hairline is a recipe for disaster in my opinion. Try ketocanzole shampoo and lipogaine, you can try fin at 0.5mg a day to see if you get sides if you do try every other day. its understandable if you don't want to take fin but at least minoxidil and keto shampoo.

Did you make a thread? I'd love to see your pics, I'm still up on the air with who I'll go with to do body hair, I'm considering Dr. Umar since he's 45 min from my home and known for BHT, who did your procedure? Thanks romp, its been improving slowly but steadily,yea the crown doesn't bug me as much, it's hanging in there with the lipogaine, hasn't changed since early 2013, I'm thinking of doing some smp to the crown to lessen the contrast, since I still got some hair there it might not look too bad, then maybe do some beard grafts just to add coverage. The first two months were hell though, got hit hard with shock loss, finally starting to look like I did before.

Here's my 3 month follow up, not much to report, my shockloss subsided, so i'm almost looking like i did before my surgery, I have tiny peach fuzz hairs growing in that I can see, but still got a long time to go. I got two pictures of the hairline one away from the light and one directly in to the light, I got two overhead shots, one with hair putty (non concealer) and the other with dry hair, I also took a pic of my crown and donor area, nothings been done to the crown but it hasn't changed much for the past 3 years not sure if my donor can withstand anymore grafts, I'm hopeful I can get another 1,000 but it may be pushing it.

He said in the video that the difference in his FUT and FUE is 5-10% which sounds pretty normal, he also said that his FUE growth is usually better than most surgeons FUT a bold claim. But I think there are skilled surgeons who's difference may be even less like 3%, also another thing to consider is how much of a visual impact would 5-10% make on te overall result, i don't think there would be much of an impact if one at all. There were many surgeons here claiming the difference in yield was 20-30% a much bigger gap.

some of these after photos of the donor area appear to look fuller and denser after surgery, is there any reason for that? Was it finasteride or just lighting?

Paleo you're standing under direct light in the last picture you posted, it also looks like your hair was pushed up like maybe you were wearing a hat that flattened it, there will always be things that bother you or don't look good with a hair transplant, for example guys who get FUT hate to go swimming because the scar shows or on a windy day, but for the most part the scar is concealed, the same with you, your donor area doesn't look that bad, as someone already posted your beard hair looks thick, you can always use beard grafts worst comes to worst.

If it's not a zero guard it's very close too it, it's basically buzzed down, the pattern is not very good it could definitely be better, but to say it's very noticeable is a stretch, I highly doubt anyone would even ask you about the scars in day to day life, the picture you presented is with a very short cut on the sides and very close up. Again, I think it's your perspective mixed with buyers remorse, I have a similar pattern on the side of my head, no one has ever said anything to me it's not a big deal. How many people do you think examine your scalp that closely day to day? People only catch glimpses, the normal persons memory is not good, try this out, next time you order coffee with some one, wait 10 min after you're done and ask them to describe the person that sold them coffee, I bet you they'd have trouble, so you really think these little dots are going to be that noticeable to the average person or that they'll even remember? I just saw your second picture now I'm really baffled, what's wrong, the little tiny bit below your crown that's lighter? Your donor looks good and healthy. I will try and post pics later of depleted donor areas, yours is not one of them.

Wow I'm shocked at the extractions did Johnny get a refund, this is what's unsettling about traveling abroad for surgery.

Paleo I don't see anything wrong with your donor area, here your shaved down to a zero did you expect there to be no scars? I'd say that's descent scarring most definitely not bad. I'm tending to agree that perhaps you were not a good candidate, your expectations seem high for the level of baldness you have, the doctor is partially responsible in informing you that there is no surgery without scars, and that you may need additional surgeries and that possibly you'll never have a full head of hair, if I may ask what was your expectation? I'm also young not as young as you but still young, and frankly I'm good with at least enough hair to frame my face, I've planned out my surgeries so that they will look good not only now that I'm 30 but when I'm 40,50,60 etc. You seem hellbent on the fact that you'll never have enough grafts to make up for future loss, but assuming these grafts grow in at least 80% and you get another surgery at 2,000 grafts, you'll be at 3,500 grafts give or take, placed wisely that isn't a bad result, it's all about perspective and I think your perspective is definitely not fit for anyone looking in to hair restoration, hair restoration is most definitely not perfect and you'll never be not bald, it's not a cure it's merely a crafty illusion. But it's important to know you're not the only young guy who's gotten a hair transplant who didn't plan for future hairloss, there are ways to go about making the situation better, that's ultimately what surgery is all about, simply improving your situation, that's the way I view it.

Which physician did the evaluation? 2,000 grafts seems incredibly low, your donor area doesn't look completely obliterated, have you considered body hair? What about smp? You could always do smp to the scars and recipient area, hopefully you get descent growth for the hairline and I think you'll be okay, there are inidividuals in far worse situations than yourself, the fact that you're young and have a high Norwood pattern doesn't automatically disqualify you from hair restoration. I would also like to add that measuring your donor density a few months after surgery could be deceiving there is a real possibility you're experiencing shock loss.