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After several years of holding off hair loss as if I was fighting off the White Walkers from breaking through The Wall, I flew to Turkey to have a hair transplant. I would like to chronicle my process here over the next year. My background: Hair loss run in my family, but I've always had thick, curly hair. In 2012, it began thinning out in the crown compared to the rest of my head. By 2014, I was on Finasteride and Minoxidil. This halted most of the hair loss, but I never recovered any of the lost hair. I could usually mask the thinning well enough, but 4 years later when I turned 34, with FUE becoming more popular, I decided to fix the problem before there was nothing left to fix. On January 14, 2018, I went in for 2,215 grafts all along my hairline and up into the center of my crown. Why I chose Dr. Doganay 1. I refused to go to an Indian or Turkish clinic where technicians do most of the work and the results are completely hit or miss. I needed to go to a place that had real reviews on independent websites. 2. Dr. Doganay had great reviews up until about 2015. During that time, he began allowing his technicians to do more and more of the work with mixed results. Dr. Doganay has been open about admitting that was a mistake. To make things right, he dropped his price from 2 euros a graft to 1.5 euros a graft with a promise to be involved in each step of the process. During the surgery, he was in fact in the room performing each part of the the procedure. Even top-rated offices in the US allow technicians to take over some of the work. 3. Again, the price. Even at 2 euros a graft, Dr. Doganay was cheaper than most top-rated surgeons in Turkey, and by far cheaper than surgeons in the United States (around $10 per graft) It has been 10 days since the operation, and so far I'm very pleased with the hairline and the recovery. The donor area looked completely normal 2 days after the operation. The recipient area is still gradually losing the post-op scabs. There has been no bleeding. I will continue to post updates, answer any questions, and I'd appreciate any feedback you all have. Thanks!
!!! If you are considering Dr. Hakan Doganay and AHD Clinic in Antalya please read this first!!! I am a former patient of aforementioned doctor. First, I will sum up my personal opinion of the clinic and the situation they have put me into, then in a later post I will try my best to share my story as detailed as possible. In my opinion choosing him was the worst decision of my life. Though I am greatly influenced emotionally, I will try to be as objective as possible, and let the reader decide whether I am right or wrong. I have created a picasa album where I am documenting everything in detail. (find links below) A few words about me: I am 26 years old, been dealing with hair loss since I was 18. Hair loss runs in my family, both my brother and my father is Norwood 5-6. I always kept my hair medium-long so I thought I only had a receding hairline. The last few years I was in depression because of my hair loss and thought only getting my hair back could make me happy again. I trusted Dr. Hakan Doganay and AHD Clinic and now I am in worse shape than before, I can back up anything I am stating below: - I arrived to Dr Hakan Doganay with a receding hairline and he merely looked at my head and did not evaluate my hair loss and miniaturization at all. If he did, it would had become clear that I not only have a receding hairline but a full, advanced norwood 5A-6 balding pattern. If I was told that, I would never had went through with the procedure. I clearly articulated before the procedure that I do not want to take propecia due to sides. We talked about potential future hair loss given my family history, but I was not informed that I am already way down the road. ( I became aware of my hairloss situation when my hair started to grow back postop) - Dr. Hakan Doganay did not evaluate my donor capacity either. He carelessly drew a new (somewhat low) hairline on my head using up 2500 grafts (for which I already paid for in advance). He did not warn me about my ongoing hair loss, or come up with a conservative game plan for the long term. - In the IAHRS website it was written that Dr. Hakan Doganay extracts and implants the grafts himself, I only found out later that he uses techs with very little experience do all the extraction and a part of the implantation as well. [Link removed by moderator - see Terms of Service) ]Dr. Hakan Doganay – Turkey Hair Transplant MD | IAHRS Member[/url] As people pointed it out, this website is not affiliated with this forum hence I can not make references to it, I did get a link to the clinic's website before the procedure which stated the head technician extracts the grafts and Dr Hakan Doganay implants the hairline. In my case it was not the head technician who extracted the grafts but an ordinary technician and not only Dr Hakan Doganay implanted the hairline but the head technician as well. It was also told me by the clinic retrospectively that the technicians have minimum 4 years experience. - edited 27/10/15 - They may have wasted a number of my grafts and to compensate either harvested more and/or implanted less grafts. I admit, this one claim I cannot prove. However the techs were dropping equipment and cursing during the operation and I have a picture with discarded grafts laying on top of my head. I have uploaded my post-op donor picture and a bunch of post op donor pictures from other clinics’ 2500 graft procedures and compared to them my donor area looks overharvested and thinned out in certain points. In my opinion they either transected a lot of grafts, harvested more or didn’t care about the pattern at all. When I mentioned the donor scarring they told me that after a FUE procedure one should wear its hair at least 1-1,5 cm long to cover it!! To my understanding the very reason of a FUE procedure is to be able to wear my hair 4-5mm long. Anyway, my hair is longer than 1,5 cm and the signs of the scarring is still visible. Anyone can check it and decide. As people pointed it out I can not substantiate the claim of wasting more than those two grafts that are laying on top of my head-edited 27/10/15 - Upon questioning they told me that they implanted 50 grafts/cm2 (check the pictures to see if that is true) and that they have harvested 2500 grafts (check the pictures if that is true) Upon questioning they told me I have an average donor with 45-50 grafts/cm2, which is a guess at best as they never measured it, and it is way out of the literature which states an average donor is between 65-85 grafts/cm2. If my donor density was in fact 50 grafts/cm2 that would had meant that it was low and I was not suitable for a FUE hair transplant. Distribution of Human Hair in Follicular Units - ResearchGate - It has been 4 month since the operation and my recipient area never looked good for one minute since. It is red, bumpy with red spots and minimal growth. Moreover, a number of the grafts that were implanted by the tech are misaligned. I have been in contact with the clinic since and all they had to tell me was everything looks fine. To be factual at one point around month 2 after repeatedly asking about folliculitis they recommended me to take antibiotics for 5 days, and when 3 month post-op I was still in bad shape and I told them I am even willing to fly back to Antalya they offered me a prp treatment, an ozone treatment, and some cream and a shampoo for free but it did not improve my situation. 2 weeks ago I got so fed up, I have contacted a trusted hair restoration surgeon and a dermatologist. A bacterial culture was taken from my head which came back positive. I have been prescribed antibiotics and anti-inflammatory cream and for the first time in 4 months I am seeing improvements. My only wish now is to shave my head but I am left with a low, uneven hairline with thinning all over behind it and a badly scarred / overharvested donor. Preop postop + photos of 2500 graft FUE extraction to compare Recipient Donor Future balding pattern I am aware that the full result of a hair transplant can only be seen after 12 months so my situation might improve, however even if I’ll have good growth (which I doubt) I will lose my hair in a norwood 5A-6 pattern very soon and I do not have nearly enough donor to compensate for it. A number of people will say that 4 months is too early to evaluate a result and I might have shock loss in the donor area, and I just might be a late grower so, to be fair I have created a picasa album where I will document my case from pre-op through the 12 months so anyone can evaluate them himself independently. After 12 month I will shave my head so the donor scarring could be evaluated as well. However I have reason to believe that the problems I described will remain, as after digging rigorously (which I should have done before) I have found numerous other ex-patents with similar problems and recurring themes, namely: - poor growth - bad donor scarring - misaligned grafts and poor growth on the side where the tech implanted the grafts. Xkos48: poor growth from procedure http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/172307-3916-grafts-hakan-doganay-antalya.html BFA316 : poor growth from procedure http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/173749-4-500-fue-dr-hakan-doganay-07th-march-2014-a.html Mickeydw: badly looking right side (implanted by tech), transplanted hair fell out later http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/174564-4065-grafts-dr-hakan-doganay-australia-turkey.html Jugendlich: poor growth, badly looking right side (implanted by tech) http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/174373-fue-1500-grafts-04-aug-2014-dr-hakan-doganay.html BluEMoOn: poor growth, patent later disappeared http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180476-look-worse-6-months-post-op-then-pre-op.html TOharbourfront: poor growth on left side (implanted by tech) http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180710-dr-doganay-not-responding.html johnny2000: poor growth, bad donor scarring, misaligned grafts implanted by the tech http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/178922-fue-scar-12-month-post-op-pictures.html http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/174976-1308-grafts-dr-hakan-doganay.html gimmefiction: satisfied overall, but the left side looks weaker (implanted by tech) http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/179332-dr-hakan-doganay-2800-fue-26-y-o-november-2013-a.html srdonjuan : weak growth, weak right side (implanted by tech) http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/171811-dr-hakan-doganay-3600-graphs-fue.html William1: poor growths, grafts possibly wasted? http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/177789-dr-doganay-2050-grafts-3500-strands-hair.html levi12: poor growth http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/174171-4025-grafts-fue-dr-hakan-doganay-july-2013-a.html Buzz2: poor growth, very bad donor scarring http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/174668-what-point-do-you-call-failure.html boricotico: bad donor scar (Link removed by moderator - See Terms of Service) tonious: very bad looking result Hair Restoration Websites A number of people will say that I should have been aware of my own hair loss and I should have researched more thoroughly before I jumped into a hair transplant, and those people are right. However, I was in denial and depression due to my hair loss and my judgement was impaired by my emotional state. Seeing the good results posted by the clinic, the IAHRS membership and the recommendation given by this site was enough for me to trust Dr. Hakan Doganay and AHD Clinic blindly. I think they have violated the ethical guidelines of the IAHRS at least in 3 points: IV. The select member will not provide treatments that are deemed pointless or harmful by the IAHRS, or ones that an informed and competent patient refuses. V. The select member will ensure patients receive the information and support they need to make important decisions about hair loss prevention and improvement of their existing condition. Members will answer questions as truthfully as they can and respect patients’ decisions, unless these decisions put the patient or others at risk of harm. If members cannot agree with their requests, they are required to explain why. IX. The select member acknowledges that he/she is in a position to affect each patient’s appearance, self-confidence, and possibly the emotional, social, and professional success of the patient for his/her entire life. With every treatment, the emotional well-being of the patient will be considered as important as the outcome of the actual treatment itself. The lifelong effect of each treatment will be considered in light of potential continuing hair loss. I cannot understand how Dr. Hakan Doganay can still be recommended by this site. Sites like this carry a huge responsibility because uneducated patents like me (and others) are misled and falsely assured by the recommendation. If he was not, I (and many others) probably would had never chosen him. In my experience they are more like a hair transplant mill than a quality clinic. I was rushed through the whole procedure starting from the inadequate evaluation through the operation itself which (for the most part) was carried out by techs with minimal experience. I have reason to believe they are having 2-4 procedures a day seven days a week in two locations. As people pointed it out, I can not substantiate the claim that they are doing more than 2 procedures a day and I was told by the clinic that the techs have minimum 4 years experience -edited 27/10/15 They sold me their clinic and their procedure as top-notch and less invasive, I only found out now that using micromotor for extraction and Choi implanter for implantation is much more invasive than the techniques used by leading clinics (manual punch, custom made blades, lateral slits. This might be evident for the seniors but it is not for the newbies. Yes, I was uneducated). Upon rigorous research it also became evident that there are good results only posted by the clinic itself. I have also learned never to go to a clinic which generates its revenue purely based on the number of grafts they transplant (like them) and don’t charge a fix price. This revenue model will only motivate them to scale up their operation and transplant as many grafts in as little time as possible. I am aware of the gravity of my allegations, and I stand behind them. I am a real patient of Dr. Hakan Doganay which I can prove, I am open to any question by anyone. I have created this thread to share my story and get the independent opinion of a third party. I am also inviting all the linked patents, other doctors to this thread as well as the representatives of Dr. Hakan Doganay. I am open to a debate. I will apologize for and withdraw any statement that anyone can disprove. I have nothing to gain out of this, but I felt a moral obligation to share my story.
Hi Guys, Firstly Thanks to this forum I have finally decided on the Surgeon who will Operate on me, After 2 Years of researching FUE and Surgeons I have decided to Travel to Turkey to Have the treatment carried out by Dr Hakan. The reason why he was the one is purely based on his experience and Natural results not forgetting all the happy clients on this forum. I have been advised by Dr hakan and His English speaking rep My Ahmet, Lovely guy who is very kind and always reply back to email rapidly unlike some surgery's who cant be asked replying, They have advised me based on my pictures i will require 3500-4000 Grafts but will give me defo number on the day of consultation My Treatment date is on the 12/13th March 2014, will be flying on the 11th from Manchester, Cant wait lol Can anyone give me any pre Surgery advise or anything I should know about the surgery ? Also any of you guys booked with Dr Hakan recently who will share there experience good or bad? Your replays would be highly appreciated as without you guys and this forum I feel lost . I have attached a Picture of my head as Its looks now Thank you in advance Saj