Regular Member krusher7 Posted March 27, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted March 27, 2020 I wasn't going to post anything, but given that this forum reaches so many people that are ultimately making a life changing decision - perhaps some context as to why who you choose matters might be useful. I'm in my early thirties. About 7 years ago I had a consultation with Dr. Rahal in Ottawa (with him in person) - at which time I had A LOT more hair and he had indicated I was not a good candidate for HT surgery and I was sent off. I was pretty devastated, and over the years the progressive loss became worse to the point where I decided to try his clinic again to see if technology had changed or they may have a different perspective. I met with one of his patient advisors and all of a sudden I was now a candidate. With MUCH less hair as I was now a NW5A with barely anything left on top (see pics below), they had recommended an FUE procedure with SMP and PRP and hopefully 2500-3000 grafts to be distributed throughout my frontal area and mid scalp (somehow). I found it extremely confusing that now, all of a sudden, I was a candidate - but 7 years ago I wasn't. I decided to take my search online and found Dr. Jerry Wong in Vancouver whose clinic is re-known for mega-sessions and great results. My FaceTime consultation with Dr. Wong sold me on him. He explained why the recommendation by Rahal's clinic was not a good idea in the long term - going through the difference between the FUT and FUE procedure in terms of yields, and the possibility of doing subsequent procedures with FUT and how FUE can destroy donor area for follow up procedures, the risks with SMP essentially turning your head into a big tattoo over time etc. etc. Needless to say, I couldn't have made a better decision avoiding Rahal and seeing Dr. Wong. I know Rahal does amazing work , but it seems like he only wants to do FUE, and to be honest this is not a good idea for an advanced hair loss patient before exhausting your FUT options. PRICE: I was quoted the same at Dr. Rahal for 2500 grafts, with SMP and PRP as I paid for 5300 Grafts with Dr. Wong WITH the possibility of doing a follow up procedure as my donor area won't be tarnished like it would be had I done FUE first. About $20,000, but I received more than double the amount of actual hair moved. See below my before surgery, after surgery and my 6 month post-op photos. I took them after waking up so the hair is all over the place. Months 4 and 5 have been really good in terms of maturity and growth. 5300 grafts. I would say the frontal zone took about 3500, crown 1000 and mid scalp maybe 800? (I am aware that I will need another procedure to fill crown and mid scalp) So far it's going well! Very happy with Dr. Wong and his teams work - and the after service. I'm convinced the reason he can do mega-sessions and other clinics can't is because he's gotta have something like 6-8 techs working with him to extract and assist with placing the grafts. He does every single incision on his own. Guy is a legend, and does things RIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 27, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 27, 2020 Nice man, great improvement. Thanks for sharing. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Tbcruz Posted March 27, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 27, 2020 Any scar pics ? 1st procedure (8-4-17) - Dr. Luís Nader FUE 1551 grafts. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/49351-1551-grafts-with-luis-nader/?tab=comments#comment-455985 2nd procedure (2-4-20) - Dr. Blake Bloxham FUT 1986 grafts https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55933-dr-blake-bloxham-fut/?tab=comments#comment-529401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kirkland Posted March 27, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 27, 2020 I did an initial consult with Dr. Rahal (or at least his advisor) and found the process to be off-putting. He may do good work but his customer service has not been satisfactory, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 28, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 28, 2020 16 hours ago, kirkland said: I did an initial consult with Dr. Rahal (or at least his advisor) and found the process to be off-putting. He may do good work but his customer service has not been satisfactory, IMO. Do you know the name of the rep? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kirkland Posted March 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 28, 2020 Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlossPA Posted March 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 28, 2020 will be following for updates. already framing your face nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member home1212 Posted March 29, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 29, 2020 Dr. Wong was an excellent choice, congrats! Design and work looks meticulous. Continued success healing and growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Wicky Posted April 29, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted April 29, 2020 for 6 months this is superb! looking forward to your next updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosmas Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 hmm, so Dr Rahal is quoting you double than Dr Wong did? I thought they have a similar price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member krusher7 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 10, 2020 Update: 10.5 months out and the maturity of the hair is real. I never knew my hair was this curly, but my hair texture changed about 6 years ago after I had chemotherapy and it had all fallen out due to the drugs. It never grew back the same in terms of caliber and texture (used to be really straight), but the curls are awesome in particular for giving the look of thickness/volume. I'd say from the transplant standpoint months 9-10 have been huge maturity months for me. Maybe there is still a bit more to come, but I can't say enough about the renewed confidence you have when you get your hair back. Dr. Wong is a true legend. It wasn't that Rahal quoted me double the price, it's that Rahal was going to move only half the hair and bundled in a bunch of things I absolutely did not need (2500 FUE with PRP, SMP for 19K). I did not need either of those, what I needed was real hair and a mega session with Dr. Wong which cost me about 19K for 5300 grafts This isn't to say Dr. Rahal doesn't do outstanding work. I know he does incredible work. It just was not the right solution for me, and the major red flags were that when I was 25 he told me I was not a HT candidate, but then at 32 his patient advisor had told me I was even thought I had waaay less hair. I'm thankful for that consultation because it led me elsewhere. I think maybe less advanced hair loss patients are right in Dr. Rahal's wheelhouse - but that's me guessing. I'll post more pics of the sides and all that later but this post crossed my mind and wanted to give an update. Cheers fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RecessionProof Posted August 10, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted August 10, 2020 Wow, incredible result. Dr. Wong's surgical style is really perfect for your type of hair loss. I'm sure having light/curly hair has been very helpful as well. Congrats! https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/53836-2338-grafts-with-konior-hairline-restoration-fut/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Coady Posted August 10, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted August 10, 2020 Can you put a photo up of the top please v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoAustralia Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 That looks so good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Silent1234 Posted August 11, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted August 11, 2020 Incredible. Keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted August 11, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted August 11, 2020 Simply a stunning result! Really, you should thank Dr. Rahal for saying you weren't a HT candidate years ago. Dr. Wong did a fantastic job on you! Regarding the curls, I think they are rockin'! 😎 Maybe you didn't realize you had them since you kept your hair in the back short? Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member knight19 Posted August 17, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted August 17, 2020 Wow, what a result! Could you share top of the head pictures too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member krusher7 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2020 11 months. All angles. Mind you these are optimal conditions - out of the shower and def used Topik on the mid scalp and crown. Could use another procedure to fill those areas in for sure, and I’m lucky the light brown concealer matches my hair really well. Regardless it’s a night and day difference. Appreciate your comments and Hasson & Wong are the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlossPA Posted August 29, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted August 29, 2020 big difference from where you started. do you mind taking some without toppik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted August 29, 2020 Valued Contributor Share Posted August 29, 2020 I'm incredibly happy for you! The color of your hair also blends well with your skin, adding to the illusion. You have great coverage already. I look froward to see final results after the 12 month mark. Thanks for sharing! GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Coady Posted August 29, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted August 29, 2020 Can you put pics overhead without toppik so we can see the real result ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member deitel130 Posted September 30, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 30, 2020 Result looks really nice. Were you told how many more FUT grafts you have remaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hairgain22 Posted September 30, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted September 30, 2020 I would like to see what this looks like without fibers. Hairline looks solid though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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