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Forget about Keser he doesn’t use a microscope during surgery and more than one members showed photos of doubles in the hairline. Talk to @Clark.Ethan about his hairline made by Keser. Keser has some amazing hairlines and I did used to recommend him but that was before before I found out that he is a recluse (stays away) from the hair transplant industry and does old school surgeries.

@KHT2 if you are a high norwood you should follow the advice other members gave you and go to Dr. Arika at Eugenix. She charges 1.8€/graft with tax. If you want Dr. Sethi the price goes up to 3.6€/graft with tax (pricey).

So you were sent here by your doctor, good to know right @Melvin-Moderator Usually people don’t come to HRN with the sole purpose to promote their Doctors at their Doctors request but rather to seek information and discuss with other members before having a HT and then share their HT journey. If you are not a paid rep then please start your own thread with proper before photos and monthly updates like the rest of us real patients are doing so that other members can judge the quality of your doctor for themselves.

@alexdimitrov you joined HRN a little over 1hour ago and the first post you write is to make false statements that only you believe to be real and falsely accuse a 12 year member of being a paid troll for a low cost Doctor such as Demirsoy? @Melvin-Moderator this new member is most likely the third coming of Goodwally. Anyone that has read my posts are aware I only recommend Demirsoy to those contemplating hairmills and I usually urge them to spend a bit more and go to Doctors achieving better results like Eugenix, Pekiner, Bruno Ferreira or HLC (these are the Doctors I actually advise in hundreds of posts).

@TrixGlendevon anwers below: 1) Because he can get more grafts with FUE+BHT than just FUT. How can a doctor that didn’t do surgery on me by my favorite? The Doctor I chose for my second surgery is my favorite for FUE+BHT but I also recommend Dr. Bruno Ferreira because he operates on patients with DUPA at Dr Lorenzo clinic so he used to diffuse and miniaturized hairs like this member seems to have. 2) Never heard that diffuse thinning is only suitable for FUT where did you get this information? 3) Ofcourse he could only do BHT if his beard is suitable and if it’s not he should indeed consider FUT and consult with Feriduni, Hattingen, H&W or Rahal. 4) @Melvin-Moderator told me Eugenix is considered the best for FUE mega sessions and from looking at several high norwood results I do agree with him. I have explained why I suggest FUE+BHT and why I recommended Eugenix and Bruno Ferreira so please explain why you state that I shouldn’t recommend FUE+BHT because patients with diffuse thinning are only suitable for FUT.

@DThak you are missing the point that both myself and @Egy (a member that also went to Cinik) are trying to explain. You can’t compare a Doctor with a Technician. If you want to compare technicians then the best techs in Turkey are the nurses Esma & Serkan Tetik that are doing DHI with a all inclusive price of 1400€ including hotel. They have dozens of real patients posting great results on the Turkish forum but they are not Doctors and operate on a rented room in a Hospital. Despite this, they are a much much better option to Cinik or any other hairmill because at those clinics you don’t know who will be the tech doing your surgery so your results depend on how lucky you are to get a good tech. A technician at a Turkish hairmill could have been a dishwasher at a restaurant 2 weeks before implanting grafts on your head! The cheapest Doctor with real patients posting results on forums is Dr. Demirsoy and he’s not a doctor I recommend to my friends because he does pre-made slits and has techs doing the implantation rather than doing the entire surgery himself with either stick&place or DHI which I believe to be techniques that can achieve better results and a quicker recovery time if done by a great Doctor (in the hands of bad Doctor it will still provide a bad result).

@DThak actually Demirsoy can’t be considered upselling because he is one of the cheapest Doctor in the world. Cinik is a place where the doctor has little to absolutely no involvement with the surgery so obviously your results will depend on tech available on the day of your surgery. Sure some people will be lucky to get a good tech but knowing that this is how all inclusive hairmills work even if you and @Egy both went to Cinik you have to be aware that telling someone to go there because you are happy doesn’t mean they will be happy because they can get a different tech and come out with a botched hair transplant. Egy is aware of this so that’s why I asked you why you were recommending Hairmills.

@DThak please explain why you are recommending low cost Turkish hairmills. Yavuz destroyed the life of a forum member @Egy and the other two are hairmills with all inclusive packages in which the surgery is done by technicians.

@MarshallUK if you have answers to those questions then please post them as it will help this member and any other looking for info on the clinic you recommended. Threads posted by real patients here at HRN are not cherry picked actually they are the complete opposite! Here at HRN you see the good, the bad and the ugly.

@MarshallUK you recommended a low cost clinic based on two people that you think had a good result or do you actually know what you recommending and therefore can answer the following questions: Who is the doctor? Does the Doc perform the whole surgery? Do technicians perform any part of the surgery? What is the technique used by the doctor? Which forum has threads with real patients posting great results from this clinic? You do realize that myself and most members know how to answer these questions when we recommend a Doctor and we never recommend a doctor or clinic just because someone we know believes he had a good result. My best friend had a good result at CM2C clinic in Portugal but knowing all the answers from the questions above regarding CM2C I would never recommend this tech run clinic to anyone regardless if my friend had a decent result (only my friend believes he had a good result because I can easily see that less than half the grafts survived the tech run surgery).

@1talian you have to open your eyes. Yasi registered in this forum to post a positive review in this thread about Dr.Mehemet and never came back. Edward Wassef registered to post positive review about Dr.Demircioglu. These are Turkish hairmills and these people are paid by the clinics to come to this forum trolling for clients but luckily @Melvin-Moderator and members like myself are here to help stop these jokers. If you want a good doctor charging a low price that’s Dr. Demirsoy at 1.25€/graft with tons of real patients in this forum posting real results. Unlike Cinik which is a all inclusive Turkish Hairmill where the techs do your surgery at Dr. Demirsoy there is only 1 patient per day so it’s the doctor by your side the whole day. This is not a car that you can change after a few years this is a permanent surgery and you have a limited amount of grafts so use them wisely.

@momo please be aware that Turkey is the world capital for botched hair transplant and you should neve assume what you see on youtube, instagram or the clinic website is real. You have to look at real patient posting their results in forums. The clinic you mentioned doesn’t have any real patient speaking about their results because it as it’s just another Turkish hairmill. @Lohvisa gave you good advice suggesting Dr. Demirsoy because he is the cheapest doctor in Turkey with real patients posting great results (1.25€/graft). I had my surgery in Turkey with a doctor that charges almost twice the price of Dr. Demirsoy and I still think I paid a very low price for the highly skilled surgery I had. You have limited amount of grafts so if you go to a Hairmill you risk having a tech wasting your grafts or even worse you may end up having to pay a good Doctor to repair your botched surgery.

@MachoVato from all the doctors I approached for my second HT, Dr. Ferreira was the one that provided the best diagnosis and while other Doctors had me talking with patient representatives, Dr. Ferreira was the only one that always spoke with me directly. I highly recommend him for anyone considering a elite level HT in Europe.

@bismarck no I do mean members of this forum. You can check in the thread below the subpar result from @Clark.Ethan. He hasn’t yet created his own results thread but he posted pictures on the thread below.

@Clark.Ethan it would be great if you could open a results thread. I used to recommend Keser because of some patients here at HRN posting great hairlines but ever since I found out he doesn’t use a microscope during surgery and is a recluse from the HT world, I immediately stopped recommending him. Your results thread would be important because it would show he’s not as great as people perceive him to be.

@PlzRespond foam is not available in Portugal so I just use regular 5% Minoxidil spray every night.

Hi everyone, So I just hit the 3 month mark 😀 It looks like more growth and future hairs seem to be lurking out so I’m hoping things to get better next month. Still taking saw palmetto, biotin and applying Minoxidil every night. Looking forward to your comments.

Dr. Couto is one of the best the world along with Dr. Konior but they both have a 2 year wait list. Eugenix (1.8€ to 3.6€/graft for surgeries with the doctor present) is getting great results with high norwood patients and they can do 7000 grafts in one surgery unlike other Doctors you were advised. Stay clear from ASMED because their results have not been good and several forum members are complaining of serious unethical treatment post surgery. A patient wrote here at HRN that Asmed told him he would have to speak with their lawyers if he wanted to discuss any further about his overharvesting. I don’t understand how people can recommend this clinic. Other great options for FUE are Dr. Bruno Ferreira (2.5€/graft) and HLC Ankara (2.7€/graft and doing high amounts of beard grafts in one day). If you want to do FUT then talk to Feriduni, Hasson&Wong and Rahal.

The quote I posted above 20 days ago to @CosmoKramer and @Melvin-Moderator the very enlighted gentlemen comparing Sars-Cov to the the Y2K computer virus has sadly come true. Many goverments worldwide have made similar comparisons and underestimated Sars-Cov due to his low mortality rate but it`s very high contamination rate has brought national health care services to it`s knees in every country that failed to apply drastic shutdown mesures. I sincerely hope you guys are no longer making ridiculous comparisons as there is no precedent for what we are living and maybe now you can better understand how those ridiculous comments were affecting people that were actually struggling with social isolation and the loss of loved ones. Hope you are now both upholding your civic duty of staying at home to prevent further widespread of this virus as I have been with my family for the past 12 days. Stay safe people!

Keser and Ferreira both do the whole surgery and both only operate on 1 patient per day. Keser does stick&place and Ferreira does DHI. Don’t know what they mean by magnifying lenses. A surgeon should use a microscope during surgery so he can see which grafts to extract and properly implant the grafts.

@Melvin-Moderator so Rahal is still doing FUT?! Thats great news! I did find it odd that he would stop doing FUT when he was among the best in the world for this technique. For FUE I do think that are better and more affordable options.

@Melvin-Moderator I think Rahal is the best for doing FUT hairlines and he gave me a great results from my FUT hair transplant. Today he is only doing FUE and like @Abi28 stated the recent results aren’t overwhelming and surely not on the same level as Konior or Couto.

@Gasthoerer I totally agree that DHI may not be for everyone because some people are actually better suited for FUT but I can’t see advantage of pre-made slits versus stick&place. Pre-made slits start to close immediately after being opened and accumulate fat&blood this means the hole/slit has to be wider than doing the surgery with stick&place that also uses the same blade but it’s 1 slit opened and 1 graft inserted at a time thus reducing the size of the hole/slit. This is why Dr. Raymond Konior one of the best in the world does stick&place. For DHI like you told me, it’s the best and the only technique I would chose for a HT without shaving.

@bodrul after learning that Dr. Keser doesn’t use a microscope during his surgery I can’t recommend him anymore. @Melvin-Moderator is very right in advising you to refrain from traveling at this time. I wouldn’t book anything for 2020.

@bodrul if you can afford @Dr. Bruno Ferreira don’t hesitate in booking him because 2.5€/graft for having the Doctor and his staff fully committed to your surgery during using a highly skilled technique such as DHI is very cheap. Sadly because of COVID-19 I don’t expect any Doctor will be accepting bookings before August.