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Thanks Cosmokramer. Quick question : My assumption based on what was told : Shedding phase due to shock and minoxidil rightafter HT should be first 3 months only. But , i am into 4th month and still see some baby new hairs on my hands after I rub minox nicely each night When did you start feeling no more shedding ? Which month ? ( even after intense oil massage, no more hair stuck on hands/fallen into the sink ) I hate to see hair shedding and think minoxidil is still contributing towards shedding

Great Journey. Many congratulations for achieving a great successful result. All your hard work, patience seems to pay off nicely for the very first HT with 5000 grafts, its day and night difference where you were when you started. I mean the flashback was great to see to compare for myself and your results provide positive hope to patients like me who are at 3 months post op right now your 3 month vs 6 month comparison is the best I 've seen lately and I am hopeful that I also see something similar on my scalp in the next 3 months ( done first 3 months , so ideally shedding /shock loss should be over now ) thanks for sharing good details also. Much appreciated

Afro hair T needs a skillful surgeon. I think Asmed in turkey is very good and got some proven results in this area. or Dr cinink, if you get in touch with them and enquire. good luck in your search In India, Dr Bhatti is good if your friend is referring based on his firsthand experience. I am myself his patient and awaiting my results anxiously

Keep in mind, density is also dependent on this main factor alone : if 60 per cm2 but majority is double, triple and quads then you are good if 75 per cm2 but majority is singles, doubles only, then you get less density I think surgeons should solely focus on extracting/identifying beforehand using magnifiers if possible as to how much doubles, triples they could extract. Avoid pulling too many singles ( only 200-500 required in most cases for soft frontal hairline - 2/3 rows in the front ) science should focus on this aspect alone and it will impact density in a positive way if there is a foolproof way of identifying spots in the donor where more doubles,trips are present. its like when scientist discovered oil under that sand. not all areas but some are full of oil.

Depends on variety of factors - how grafts were extracted, placed, how much out of body time for grafts, if most grafts were destroyed during implantation or extracting/sorting phase since in FUT , a magnifier is a must . did the doctor and team used all of those precautions. Also, it hugely depends on your native hair caliber - how strong /weak is your donor area. also, very important to get a breakdown on # of singles, doubles and trips after the HT so you can track/assess/assume your results accordingly. Not sure if you received this count from the clinic ? Its your luck at the end of the day if majority of extracted grafts comes out to be doubles,trips, quads since 1 graft could sprout 3 hairs then and it adds up to that total hair count when result is solid in 1 year or so. also, Minoxidil should be added to your routine. at least for the first 6 months - 1 year. Who was the doctor? Is he recommended here or other forums ? any past results from patients if you reviewed beforehand. Yes, it could be true that you are a really slow grower but my gut instinct says otherwise. I think its more to do with the clinic, procedure and grafts survival here

For a 4 month mark, I am sorry to say it's not the ideal picture anyone would like to see especially after getting 5000 grafts implanted ( how ever I DOUBT 5000 were implanted) do you mind sharing pics immediately taken post op for a better understanding of your case. are you applying minoxidil to boost your ht results ?

Hello, i have a question : If someone would like to wear hair longer than 4 inches, but would like to create the illusion of density - will smp work for them ? i always thought smp is suitable only for people who wears a buzz cut as small hair size blends in with smp tattoo nicely

Thanks Lennney ! Last 2 pics were after my first hair cut at 2 month 20th day. ( trimmed sides) I noticed the opposite, i thought I suffered minimal shock loss, all those before HT pics - my hair is matured at 4 inches, 3 inches long and overlapping each other giving that illusion else my crown was pretty bad before the surgery too. If shock loss would be there, my frontal hairline wouldn't look this decent in last few pictures if you notice. again my observation but i could be wrong. But yes, whenever I wear longer hair, it always looks like I have more hair on my head. when I cut them short, it seems to show that I am balding. Technically, I am still considered to be in ugly D phase as tomorrow is my 3rd month completion. For a 2.5 to 3 month mark, i am very much satisfied as least redness, frontal look is fine without a hat .. looks decent enough so i can go out. for a NW 5 A case like mine, aerial shots are always going to be horrible, i wish after few months, i take an aerial shot under the sun and no scalp is visible. that is the ultimate dream

Here is my 3 month timeline

I can only speak about Dr Bhatti, myself got HT done at darling buds in march 2019, its been 3 months post HT and i am quite satisfied with the progress so far heard about Dr Dua as he is also one recommended surgeon. good luck in your journey

Hello, I think my total expense was 6700 cad. this includes bi directional flight , hotel stay for 5 days ( best room I paid for ), cab , food, miscellaneous stuff, operation, 6 months supplies of 3 supplements - fin, minox, biotin. fyi - I spent more than 8200 CAD on this 5 day trip to india but some stuff was not required .... so not counting that.. it was just over spending/shopping/upgrading flight tickets yes, i would recommend dr. bhatti as i am already seeing good improvements in my hair ... its just 3 months post ht.

Great results, looks very natural with relatively small # of grafts used, it seems perfectly implanted and all grafts survived

yes i would say approx. 200 grafts less/more should be fine but if it seems they have quoted 4000 grafts and implanted only 2000, then its cheating. But again its very common especially in turkish side of assembly line clinics but they have discovered a new formula to erase this issue, most clinics from turkey will quote you flat package 2500 Euro for example which includes " max. grafts" and will tell you, they will do mega session in one day or 2, implant |" max grafts which is 5000 and everything is covered. no need to pay per graft as its a flat rate. Most patients fall for it think instead of paying per graft , its max grafts covered and sign up with them but in the end, they also end up implanting 3000 or so

But i heard if you cut pills, it looses its effect on scalp to some degree. So 1 mg pill holds more strength as per some research. Anyways, your body knows what's the best way to react to different things and these case studies are not done per person but thousands of ppl. for minoxidil, i think we should rather start applying twice daily as most ppl recommend, its 3 months for me and i know Dr Bhatti said apply once per night upto 6 months, but I think i will start morning too. Only then it should produce some significant results as recommended by Minoxidil makers themselves, it say apply TWICE

@LennneyHi Lennney, Just curious as you said Finastride will also contribute towards shedding during first 3/4 months ? ?? I am taking finpecia brand 1 mg per day as sold by Dr Bhatti's clinic ( for 6 months ) and then I will buy Propecia ( FDA approved North american brand) I always thought Minoxidil only contribute towards shedding and all brands of Finastride simply wouldn't

Its very hard to determine exact number of grafts. this is where you have to trust the clinic and give some extra room for 100 to 500 grafts less/more there is no accurate way of counting grafts although many says use a software, scalp pics, when Dr performs incisions count it, or when dr. perform extractions count them.... etc etc. this is all illogical IMO, you just can't do it. its a rough estimate, 99.999999 % of clinics would give you a number just to keep you happy with official records, its very hard to challenge them back after you count and highlight the discrepancies if any.

Hi Petroholic, Although I thought of posting pics in a timeline format all together from 1st month to 4th/5th/6th month, but i can post 1st to 3rd month timeline as i am very much satisfied with my progress of 3 months Stay tuned !

Its all normal my friend, you seem to be on the right track. Additionally, if you are also using minoxidil and finastride, they would contribute more to the shedding.... but its always said to be a good sign. It means your scalp is going to be regrowing hair after shedding during the first phase. good luck i am in the same boat ( 3 months post HT )

Its quite possible so have to be always extra careful. Hair loss, HTs and hair regrowth is all a very complex science and needs utmost care. good luck

both compliment each other and performs different functions. go with both at the same time 1mg finas tab in the morning and 5% minoxidil rub in the night 2 hours before going to bed EVERYDAY do for 1 year and see results for yourself - miraculous for some folks

That is very unfortunate, makes me think about my upcoming results ( I am at 3 month phase post HT with Dr. Bhatti, done on March 18 2019 ) Yes it seems your results are pretty bad however for me when I see my growth, it seems decent enough for me to keep thinking positively until now Dr Bhatti or Shera should be in touch with you by now ....i hope good luck with the repair process, you would definitely need one last final chance or SMP is also a great option if you can keep your hair short always i am sorry to see this as I am also dr. Bhattis patient and results like these could be a negative impact on us patients who are following your footsteps

good points Lasercap but I still feel a surgery is a surgery and for 2 days in one go, one after the next its inevitable that you do end up touching those sensitive areas again as its just one head a man got IMHO, Like Melvin asked - 12 months should be the minimum gap between 2 HT sessions but like I said, it makes sense to consider those 2 day sessions also in the same relevance ( to some extent)

I think 12 months is good Also, if you look at it another way, most large sessions are done in consecutive 2 days or sometimes, 3 days with a day in between as a gap. that should be also considered 2 HT " surgical sessions" in a row. i mean donor just bled and it bleeds again next day. I just can't do 2 days in a row

hairline is coming out looking very natural and suits your facial frame perfectly. good results for 5 month mark, they say 4 to 6 month mark is the initiation for thickness in transplanted areas. Also, i believe if you grow your hair in length, it will really suit you facially and will look nice on you ( not sure if you prefer to keep them short/medium always )

what is this, some giggle attack