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Good to see as new hairs are sprouting now.. I am also interested to see how your temples would appear once fully grown as it's a sensitive area that requires extra precision with baby hairs only to make them look very natural... so far looks great work !

Thanks ! It's mind boggling to accept the fact that even in 2019, majority of clinics posting their own pics/videos like these ones. Shouldn't medical board or IAHRS introduce some strict standards for HT surgery, yes it is a " surgery " on the most important piece of your body " head"

It's fine to accept or not to accept HIV + patients but his clinic and most others in Turkey post their own pics displaying no surgical masks. Zero precautionary measures to avoid infections when you are working on open wounds. No wonder why some people catch infections after HT.

Hi Alex79, My context was different. It's not necessary to cover patient's face but nurse's " surgical mask" should be there as a MUST. If you look at this video I posted, at 00.45 seconds.... it's not there.

Thank you Spex ! Your assurance made a big difference in my decision as a first timer to go with Darling buds. I am glad to get in touch with this forum, HT mentors like you and eventually got this done from one of the best doctors who currently offers best unbeatable price/quality /reputation/proven results proposition worldwide.

At 0.45, clinic's own video advertising their high tech nurse implanting grafts on a " celebrity client" Kyle Christie who is sleeping most probably. This is UK's highly reputed clinic - Dr. Kumari with a famous celeb getting his HT done. A sneeze, cough, cold, saliva, eyes, nose, face everything is exposed right on top of wounded head. I mean more than 2000 slits OPEN wounds , just freshly opened, no microscopes, lenses, helmets, face covered . Only good thing I could see are gloves at the least. Highest chances to spread infection, sickness or even HIV if somehow blood from one's body goes into any of those open wounds. I 'm just surprised to see this and thought of sharing/asking the community as this is still a common practice today in majority of Turkish assembly line clinics even the rated ones like Dr. Cinik's etc.

Question for Sr. Members : Today is my first day starting Minoxidil 2% . If you have used baby oil in the morning but spray minoxidil in the night, would it react negatively ? I mean should I always wash all oils before spraying minoxidil ? I read on some forums ppl use coconut oil in conjuction with minoxi ( 1/2 hour difference only )

Thank you Paddy for the continuous support and spreading positive vibes as always on this forum all around I will continue to update periodically . Its day 14th today, not much has happened - no shedding ( only 5% ) but transplanted hairs seems to grow with each day. I hope I could be as lucky as Shera so my implanted grafts never shed ... fingers crossed ! They say it's rare but it happens to a few patients once in a while.

Agreed about the saloon comment and yes results will talk. For now, I think we are just overwhelmed by smooth operating style and expertise of Dr Bhatti's clinic as first timers. Add @Lennney as 3rd reviewer, another 2019 Jan patient as a co - passenger. Good luck to all of us :

Thanks for the update. Looks good so far , 3 -4 month mark should be when things switch around . good luck to you

@Melvin-Moderator As discussed previously, I've the breakdown and posted some pics if you'd like to provide your insight as the expert 2nd pair of eyes on my case. Entire frontal, entire crown covered except middle small portion ( have some fine hair) left alone with 3300 grafts. I know initially you recommended to leave crown to the end, first fill front, then center, then approach the crown but as you could see, Dr Bhatti's approach was like this ( I am fine as I think 3300 grafts were strategically placed to cover my grade 5 A baldness ) yes, Dr. signed off my case as Grade 5 A patient with low caliber thin donor area permitting another harvest of 2250 scalp donor area + 250 beard for next HT if I want. Any thoughts ?

Thanks for sharing your personal experience with 2 mm Dermaroller, quite helpful as I was doubtful about how many times per week is good. Makes total sense. I will start with 1 mm , then 1.5 , then 2 mm eventually once a week only PRP 4-6 sessions i will plan for 2019 alone as its my HT year, so roots are net new and should be provided as much nourishment, rich blood supply as possible in the early days. I heard combination of LLLT helmet, PRP and Dermrolling with Minoxidil is very effective for most cases. I plan on buying I restore laser helmet - never thought we would need these toys while growing up but here we are https://www.google.com/searchq=laser+helmet+best+irestore&rlz=1C1SQJL_enCA830CA830&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZzO_5m6fhAhVC6IMKHc_gAUIQ_AUIDygC&biw=1280&bih=610#imgrc=glMuomKUsYp-7M:

one needs to have the facial design to be able to wear SMP , sharp looking, chiselled shredded folks looks really good with SMP but it does suit some round faced individuals too I checked with Rahal in Canada as they are one of the pioneers of SMP before as an option for myself too https://www.rahalhairtransplant.com/smp-toronto/

I dont think either Darling buds or Eugenix offersSMP but it's a good suggestion to all top clinics in India to start practicing and offering SMP. But OP must check directly with both clinics as we could be wrong in our assumption. In some cases, SMP Is the only best solution for a patient so its also in high demands in current market

Here's my experience ( not so detailed for many ) - PRE OP, During OP and POST OP as this might help some folks who are on the fence like I was before I met Darling buds team and for folks who would like to live the experience thru someone else's eyes ( I always wanted similar insight before making a decision like Lennney's recent review really helped me ) Special thanks @Lennney I'd most likely post a new thread later ( as this thread got sidetracked now) with additional details as I recall them and add constructive feedback for the clinic ( if any) PREOP Landed at Delhi airport on Sunday 1:00 am - 17th march , some minor hiccups but finally took cab for decent price to Chandigarh ( 3 hour journey only night time, no traffic and we stopped to eat on the way at a famous restaurant). It was OLA cab ( a famous Uber India competitor with safe driver, i pad, WiFi all provided ) safety-wise, car was restricted with 80 km/hr max speed as per OLA's policy, so i felt much safer Reached Glades hotel ( prebooked for 5 nights by clinic rep ) at early morning, they gave me the best corner suite front facing with high back chairs that are required for sleeping after operation. It was premium room, the best this hotel offers Took shower, settled in, got a call from Shalini ( clinic's team lead ), she was very much concerned about how my journey was, was asking the right questions, she had called hotel previously also to inquire why I haven't arrived yet. Very professional lady, said take some rest, Dr. bhatti will meet me in the evening as initially we were supposed to meet 10:30 am but later she changed it to 6 pm. I was impressed with clinic's approach, flexibility and was feeling positive assuming from there ... now i am in their city, in their hands and they will take good care of my needs, will plan everything for me. This assumption turned into reality in the coming days. As soon as I checked into my room, Patient rep from England called me. I was delighted to see Shera is keeping an eye on my every movement to ensure I am safe, sound and happy with the hotel. He told me to rest assured me that Doctor will meet me the same night. I bumped into 2 patients at the hotel lobby - one south indian gentleman with his wife ( who was taking good care of him) and one from Netherlands - a tall caucasian fellow with black bandana on. Both assured me that I am in safe hands for my tomorrow's session. Talking with patients who were just done with their surgery, it gave me some more peace of mind. They only gave me positive feedback, nothing negative. One fellow did mentioned that Dr Bhatti doesn't talk much, will just answer if you have any questions but likes to move on fast as a high energy doctor. But at the same time, he said his operation was flawless, Dr Bhatti knows what he is doing and if you engage him - he might talk more with you. I insisted that even if it's a Sunday ( only one day off for clinic ), a holiday - I need to meet Dr Bhatti regardless to calm me down, give me peace of mind, discuss my Q&A otherwise I cant jump into operation day tomorrow on Monday. Dr Bhatti added me to his whats app rightafter, messaged me that he will come to hotel lobby around 7 pm and he arrived. We met at the restaurant, he told me to take off my baseball cap , showed him my condition, had a quick Q&A with him ( i had a long printout of questions lol ) , he handed over medicines that i need to take with dinner ( 5 tabs ). finally, I was relaxed after meet up F2F and enjoyed my first night, dinner and slept well. Overall, clinic delivered on their commitments and Shera also delivered on his promises for my preop journey. Full marks here. DURING OP - INSIDE OT - DAY 0 Clinic sent their driver at 7:30 am to pick me up, by 8:00 am - I was in their blood work room ( clothes changed to OT clothes, valuables handed over, met shalini first time, shoes taken off. Very organised process, well oiled machinery and the staff was all there to meet and greet me. Driver, staff, nurses, hotel staff - all courteous, attentive and caring. Some other reviewer mentioned - "In turkey, in majority of clinics you enter - you see 15 patients, 1 staff member. At Darling buds India, he saw himself as the ONLY patient and 15 staff members all to welcome him, take care of him and are dedicated to his surgery for the entire day " This was the case for me also so I was very happy as I asked to ensure if I am the only patient today, they said YES. 3 nurses came right after, two asked me if I am ok with needles as they need to take some blood samples. Took blood in 2 separate tubes as 1 for regular check up, 2nd for my PRP injection ( yes, it was a part of my package ) No time waste, then I was sent to reception area - meet and greet, then off to Dr Bhatti's office. He welcomed me again, some small chats, my Q&A again, he gave me realistic expectations, drew hairline an inch higher than my normal as I'm not in my 20s, rather hitting 40s soon which I agreed with ,he said no temple work required ( also agreed) , took some high resolution pictures from all angles. Then I was sent to next team - 2 ladies shampooed me , some antiseptic spray. Then Dr Bhatti personally trimmed my hair feeling them, their direction ( asked specifically not to cut them a month prior to surgery ) . In turkey, people see doctors for hairline session only, once done 15 minutes, NEVER AGAIN - I heard stories that are scary. Here, Dr Bhatti is telling me what he is about to do before every step. He said go inside OT. INSIDE OT - There were 6-7 nurses, all masked, couldn't see their faces, heads covered, gloves on ( stressing on this because in Turkish clinics where I was sold at one point, even most clinics posted their own OT pics on their websites where no gloves, face masks or microscope helmets during live patient's operations ) 3 girls at least had microscope helmets ON additionally with other gear. We joked a little, they welcomed me, said " Sir, dont you worry ). I asked about my blood test results if I am diabetic, high BP or any red flags are there... If yes, i am running back to canada and get SMP instead if surgery might kill me lol . They assured me i am all healthy and all HIV, Hep C, Hep B, Diabetic, High blood pressure results are negative. My heart said a big " Thank you god " One nurse put on Blood pressure jacket on my right upper arm, other inserted a small injectible tube on my left hand with tapes. 3rd nurse set up heart rate monitoring system with my first finger connected. They said these 3 components will be connected throughout the operation ( I was relieved as heart pulse, blood pressure should be monitored constantly during any surgery ) Dr. Bhatti enters with his combat gear on, helmet on lol.... explain what and how he's planning to do things on me today, next steps, to advise him if I need more anesthesia or feel any bit of pain. My surprise - Anesthesia was the scariest part for me, I was willing to pay extra 250 Euros to one Turkish clinic once for pressured gun ( needle less) . BUT, at darling buds - i later found out that they use 4 techniques - one nurse will bring a special icepack, other uses tapping on your head, 3rd controls your body/hand for heart monitoring and some accupressure technique and Dr Bhatti inserted the first injection in my head with anesthesia . I wasn't expecting that less of a discomfort, minor stingy feeling and here goes the next one, next and within 5 mins - first part of donor area was numb. Dr. said he will start using motorized punch ( i think 0.8 mm ) but to tell him if I feel anything. I felt nothing, some noise like a electric toothbrush. In between, you do feel some minor discomfort but that's a given. Bear it. It is like an endurance test for many humans Before I knew or was sleepy, half dizzy time flies by and donor harvesting was done - 2870 scalp donor grafts were taken out and 429 beard grafts after that. Breakdown below: 236 singles 2052 doubles 1011 triples Grand total: 3299 grafts equals to appox. 7500 new hair . Also, my existing couple of hundred hair if survive the shock loss, it will be almost 8000 hairs on my central part. Praying and hoping this is true when the time comes Then , relaxing time, some nice pizza, coke was served, in between water served if you feel thirsty. Lots of people joining hands inside OT, going out/in. Lots of multitasking happening as I could feel. During lunch, I was feeling a bit weak after harvesting due to the posture my body was in for the past 3 hours, it was obvious. plus that anesthetic and sedation used will add to the dizziness, weakness. A Senior Veteran visited me inside OT, i knew he was the dedicated anesthetist ONSITE that Dr Bhatti always advertised about making his clinic different than most others. This man asked me if I am okay, need anything, how is my head /body feeling. This MAN seems to know what he's doing and talking about. Seems like one of the most experienced Anesthetist, so a visit from him gave me more energy and I was fine after few bites into that veggie pizza ( that you pre- select before operation from the menu ) Then, Incision part that was relatively easy and comfortable. Dr. Bhatti performed himself all the incisions, we talked about many topics at a high level like Dr. Feller's post here, DHT, Needleless anethesia etc. Then, Nurses started implanting my invaluable grafts that were preserved in PRP + Stem cell liquid. Both had microscopes on. I felt no pain, really numb on my front scalp. The nurses seems to know what they are doing, I felt comfy to be in experienced hands. Dr. Bhatti was constantly visiting back and forth, asking if I am okay etc making sure the work is done nicely and patient is comfortable with no fatigue, dizziness, weakness or in any kind of pain. Dr. Bhatti did performed himself all those pieces that were promised - Hair trimming, Anesthesia ( all ), FUE extractions ( ALL - scalp and beard), INCISIONS ( all 3299 ) Worth mentioning - Dr Bhatti's nurses were extremely caring, when I was alone with them I felt no need to ask for Doctor. They have done major surgeries, thousands of satisfied celebrity clients but still they were treating me like I am the special, their first ever client in OT. They continuously monitored my heart rate, in between several times when I am too relaxed or half asleep, I hear a voice " Sir, please make sure not fall asleep. Please take long breaths, your breaths are going short now. Take longer ones now " Very caring every moment for those 3-4 hours during implantation, then as soon as I hear this voice, i start taking longer breaths, heart rate monitor started beeping slower and back to normal. so you kind of get used to your own heart rate pumping and are told to constantly manage 90 beats or so ( as I was told its getting less than 90 if I remember correctly), once its more than 90 - they said "you're back Sir " You're dehydrated for sure by the end, so make sure to drink water ( not too much also as one should try to avoid going to washroom often) Kudos to the nurses who implanted all my grafts, very caring, experienced. One nurse constantly changed heart rate setting to middle finger, then to the first one again to monitor the average or if one's getting loose with time, re-calibrate again. They asked me tea, biscuits. I confused them with a Yes, no, yes, no as a part of me wanted to eat , drink but another part of me wanted to get this over with as soon as possible. Last part was crown implantation, before starting Dr Bhatti came in again and inserted my PRP injection into many crown areas. Then I was made to sit on a chair, face inserted downwards, girls were giggling, joking about each other's grafts and their chosen territories on my scalp. They kept on ordering their junior nurse / subordinates in OT to bring a single, now double, to put some beard ones now, to spray saline water all over now. They acted like a doctor ( no joke ) very commanding, good leadership qualities, delegating to their junior staff to focus on particular areas ( I think it was poonam, one other I forgot her name as I specifically asked 4 times for my review lol , should've written them down) finally, by 6 pm ( 8 hours - 10 am to 6 pm inside OT) , all 3299 grafts were implanted. A long breath of relief, I was fine. Got out, next to mirror they sat me down. 2 nurses and Dr Bhatti bandaged/lubed my donor area nicely. They only day 0 night instructions were provided and only a few medicines for that particular night were given to me to be taken with dinner ( they make sure not to overwhelm you with post op care right after surgery ) . Dr Bhatti advised his driver to take me back to the hotel and next morning 9 am to pick me up again on day 1 to remove front bandages/ swap back ones. by 7 pm I was back in my room, was feeling proud of myself. I was like YAY, i am alive, healthy, got this done. I went into a state of mental Euphoria , ordered some delicious food thru room service, my neck travel pillow on, medicines with dinner, took some pics, thanked God, showed some gratitude and slept upright on the hotel chair. POST OP Another good thing about this clinic ( hard to find elsewhere) is that as long as you are staying in Chandigarh, they will keep on sending driver for pick up/drop off back to clinic, for everyday care, wash, bandage removal, bandage swap, Doctor interaction, Q &A, billing discrepancy ( if any ). One thing I was impressed with - I never paid for the procedure until after 6 pm on OT day ( most clinics and Darling buds included will ask to pay entire amount before procedure starts) , may be my day was a Monday and everything was planned to save time accordingly. But, this goes to show that clinic is not after payment only. They are concentrated on patient first, yes payment is important which we took care of later. I was quoted to pay 248,000 INR for 3500 grafts initially but after operation, I had a bill of 230,000 INR for 3299 grafts only as presented by Shalini. Clinic's post OP booklet, meds, shampoo, explanation, driver's extra care while making sure you dont bump your head with car door while getting in/out, all goodies - TOPNOTCH experience. I also purchased for 140 $ - 6 months supply of minoxidil, finas, biotin . Shera always called day/night to make sure I am fine, all my issues, doubts ( if any) are taken care of, they don't just leave you after operation. It's a constant touch with the clinic over the next few days. I met Dr Bhatti on Day 0, 1, 3 and 4. Reputed Doctors mostly charge for consultation half hour( 300 $ in Canada) for you just to be present in their cabin. Here I am sitting with Dr. Bhatti on Day 4th having a coffee, talking about DHI vs FUE vs DHT. His eyes lit up when you talk about HT, it seems this doctor lives and breathes HT only, his entire focus, study, energy level and most importantly passion oozes out of his eyes and body language clearly demonstrating that he is driven to make sure his clinic succeeds, he stays reputed or gain even more reputation. Clinic truly focuses on " Happy clients" than short term gains , they make sure you leave this experience with a smile on your face and no regrets/hard feelings even if a tiny bit, they dont waste time in resolving that matter for you in seconds. No arguments, if you're not satisfied with something - talk to clinic staff - Sonam or Shalini ( best girls, very caring) or directly with Shera or Dr Bhatti and they will make sure it's resolved. The day of my flight ( day 5th ), another driver in a 3rd car was sent to pick me up who only drives nurses bus or clinic staff. He said the 2 regular drivers are both busy but he was on time. They dont forget about your flight, who's leaving, who's coming in. Its like an army style operation. I met 2 other patients during my checkout at hotel lobby - one British and one Indian folk, the three of us had a good chat about clinic. Goes to show that this clinic is expanding over the last 10 years, have a global outreach, patients from all corners of the world you could see landing there. A special shout out to Shera - even after my return, he is in constant touch with me on whats app, guiding me moving forward, also without me asking : said that clinic will standby my results if not satisfactory after 6 months. This gave me reassuring answers to the burning questions in my mind : Why is this the clinic I chose, Why it's reputed in the first place and Why Darling buds made a name for themselves !!! I now feel that I know the answer to these Why's - Everyone in the staff, Doctor, patient rep, driver, even the coffee man will provide you with best possible customer service. My Rating - Staff/Nurses - 10/10 ( you can't ignore the importance of a great OT staff who also operates on your head) Drivers - 10/10 Shera ( patient rep) - 10/10 Dr. Bhatti - 9/10 I will give 9.5 to Doctor ONLY once/if I see some satisfactory results in the coming 6 -12 months and will officially only sign off Dr Bhatti as the chosen one if my results are good. Doctors should always be scrutinized more with strict marking initially so they continue to research, evolve, learn, adapt and improve their overall services for future patients. Rest assured, I know as a patient we have important part to play now - strict diet, all meds, exercise, no smoking, no alcohol, dermarolling, biotin, finas, minox , sleep, positive mind set, drinking water, cleaning scalp, sleep and the list goes on............................................................... You just name it and will find me doing it ..... I want to give this my best shot ( only thing no one knows as to how many grafts were damaged, bulbs, roots were crushed under forceps, not inserted properly, not extracted properly, not angled properly, singles not checked for frontal hairlines, how my 429 beard grafts will blend nicely with 2870 scalp grafts - will they or will they not ) I am not saying any of the stuff above holds true about my experience with Darling buds but as they say : " Results matter" and " Time will Tell"

First sprouting noticed - Day 11th today 😀 donor seems nicely healed also - some more pics sharing with the community Middle vertex wasn't touched this time as Dr Bhatti said he would like to cover entire area except middle vertex, not sure why but I trusted his instincts as a reputed surgeon. One reason I could think of is that my head is big, has a lot of real estate to be covered and my final graft count was 3300 grafts ( was quoted 3500 initially ). For 3300 grafts ( not 5000 or 4000), I think its nicely covered with the compromise of middle vertex at this point. Dr Bhatti stresses against over harvesting if you are mid thirties and its your first HT ever. most scabs are off, i will wash with some pressure tomorrow - day 12th to remove remaining ones

Also, In Dr. Bhatti's words as I specifically had a discussion with him, thru email and on Day 4 another chat regarding DHT method : Eugenix and DHI both have not produced a single case to the community in which the full procedure was recorded Doctors wanting to observe the procedure in one clinic were unsuccessful since they were told they came late and the procedure was already over! We did this technique in 2009 the first time but since have abandoned it like many clinics the world over since the procedure is fatiguing both for the doctor and the patient and the procedure cannot be done in a single day. As you know if a procedure is stretched over several days, it becomes painful since the healing process takes effect the next day and local anesthetist does not act as well. We started using the INVIVO preservation of grafts in which we do not extract them simultaneously with the coring (harvesting) of grafts but do it together at the end so the Out of Body Time is shorter. This was I have been able to decrease the ischemia time of grafts to less than 3 hours which is the best that can be done. You also need to know that it is not the technique alone that counts. Patients only want results, a safe procedure and continued interaction with the doctor, preop, perop and postop. My take on DHI method ( another note from Dr Bhatti with his approval to share if I feel like ) (DHT is not copyrighted). 1. When the head is turned to one side when the surgical team is harvesting, you cannot strategically place the singles, doubles and multiple hair grafts which you otherwise can as per plan. You are constrained by the direction in which the head is. 2. While harvesting, the head keeps shaking and it is impossible to be comfortable while planting. The plantation process is as it is a laborious time consuming task. Making it more difficult will hinder efficiency and hence quality of result. 3. DHI method ignores a very important part of placement and that is the curl of the hair in the graft. In prone position, it is very difficult to determine while introducing the grafts. This is important for a natural result. 3. While planting we proceed from the leading edge of the hairline backwards. This is reversed when the patient is in face down position and hence cannot allow good density to be maintained since grafts will keep popping out. DHI results in before and after pictures and on videos have been shown in shadow especially from the top and this adds gist to the rumor that DHI does not produce density and the technique should be abandoned. It is merely a gimmick. To counter this claim, DHI has to show a full case without edits where it is done for 3000 grafts. Till then it is not verifiable if it is a technique or a marketing gimmick. We have a host of them these days in times of aggressive posturing by clinics. Direct hair implantation is touted as a technique since may years but the clinics that do it are not able to demonstrate the outcomes of the procedures. Also these techniques have a higher price per graft and most patients are discouraged due to this given rise to speculations tht it is just another marketing gimmick. In our clinic we preserve the graft in its normal milieu where it continues to imbibe blood circulation since it remains attached to the body and contained in a cylindrical hole in which the partially detached graft is bathed with plasma all around. The grafts are kept moist with PRP + A-Cell. No preservative can do better. This technique is only used when the out of body time will be more than 45 minutes. For procedures upto 1200-1500 scalp grafts this preservation is not necessary. Traditional preservation fluids are good enough. Our technique has withstood the test of time over last 10 years when we first started using it.

some argue DHT takes less time, as grafts are out, back in implanter and IN ( for this reason there is usually a bigger team on board working as an assembly line ), one punches, other takes it out, 3rd puts in the implanter, 4th changes the choi pen, 5th hands back to front end folks to implant and its done. FUE takes longer as it needs 1-2 hours min additional to make incisions. DHT is direct incision + implantation, so ideally it should take around the same time if not less/more

Some more pics, right-after op - Day 0, Day 1, Day 2 . I personally was overwhelmed as no pain, no swelling ( only tiny bit) and recovered in 10 days almost completely now with no infection ( most scary part for me ) . Donor area healed nicely now, however on day 2 onwards, it healed so fast and nicely to my surprise. Not too much scarring visible on day 11 th now ( will share pics) . below are day 1-3 pics with some random hotel room pics for those wondering about their stay in chandigarh ( good stay overall) Looks like some clean work ? Any feedback folks ?

Time to share some pics taken by Dr. Bhatti during live operation in OT and shared with me on request I tried to post a close up showing grafts popping out but unable to do so.... with max lens software, however clinic told me they don't simultaneously extract grafts with each punch anymore. they use Invivo method, to avoid exposing grafts for too long outside the body, they mini zed downtime to 3 hours that's the least and best possible way In another pic taken right after incisions, when I zoom in - looks like lots of my native fine hair were left untouched so microscopes were used as it gave me peace of mind because my super fine hair should be saved from shockloss/cutting during incisions as each hair is important at this stage I wondered why after so many punches ( approx. 3000 ) , no one is taking any grafts out ( tons of nurses were around but doing other things) , so Dr. Bhatti explained and sent me his written reply ( with his approval to share on this board) Doctors wanting to observe the procedure in one clinic were unsuccessful since they were told they came late and the procedure was already over! We did this technique in 2009 the first time but since have abandoned it like many clinics the world over since the procedure is fatiguing both for the doctor and the patient and the procedure cannot be done in a single day. As you know if a procedure is stretched over several days, it becomes painful since the healing process takes effect the next day and local anesthetist does not act as well. We started using the INVIVO preservation of grafts in which we do not extract them simultaneously with the coring (harvesting) of grafts but do it together at the end so the Out of Body Time is shorter. This was I have been able to decrease the ischemia time of grafts to less than 3 hours which is the best that can be done

Hard to buy into that story - 3500 grafts were quoted and paid for, but they planted 700 more at no extra charge ? Anyways, thanks for the feedback on Eugenix Mr. Mehta. Rest assured, I read your entire review before making my decision to go with Darling buds. I watched your you tube interview also. This could be a long debate over who's better, I had not picked Eugenix but to each his own. Initially, we all have subjective opinions based on our gut feeling ( most important after mind/heart) and you just need to follow it. Also, I think Eugenix has many good " poster boys" who already possess thick caliber donor dense hair PREOP and if they then implant 4000+ grafts on NW3 or NW4, results should look as good as yours. as you being one of the prime ones My take as a researching patient - You have to measure the average results over past decade with thin/thick haired patients, different age groups from 30-60 , different density with 2000 - 4000 grafts implanted, cost, connect, heart,mind, gut connect to say " yes" to move forward. Dr Bhatti succeeded in those parameters for my checklist ( read again) I am a NW 5 with thin caliber hair, so i wanted to go a clinic whose strategies are time tested and validated by veterans. Your results are impressive, good luck for more growth and I expect you'd reciprocate the same for me . Many unbiased reviewers and most people rate both Eugenix and Darling buds as India's top 5 clinics ( so we both should be happy ) In short (so you know ), both clinics quoted but I never felt the connect with Eugenix . However, There was an instant connect with Darling buds. Not sure what the exact reason could be but assumptions below: 1. Satakshi ( patient rep ) at Eugenix never clearly answered my questions. Shera did answered very clearly from Darling buds and I felt connected with him right off the bat. 2. Eugenix quoted me double the price, said i have to buy my own post op meds, said there is nothing given as pre op meds. Darling buds was different in these perspectives. 3. Eugenix is great but I asked where should I land - Delhi or Mumbai airport ( which clinic will have both/Dr Sethi/Dr Bansal) - no response and I found that bizzare, as a patient you need to ensure that patient is made aware of Doctors location. 4. Yes, Eugenix offered 2 nights free stay and 3 meals a day for 2 days ( as a part of package) but already quoted me 1.5 times the price per graft. Also, said my HT will take 2 days back to back ( I never wanted this to happen ) can't stand 2 days in OT in a row - no way. 5. Biggest reason- Darling buds said 3500 grafts, Eugenix said between 4000 - 5000 grafts ( now 1000 grafts could be a bill of 3000 dollars additional). I wanted approx number as accurate as possible with minimum stretching. Trust me I did a thorough research on all relevant elements before going with Darling buds BUT, I will only sign off Darling buds as a great clinic if my results are satisfactory within next 6 months or so. so far, it looks good and I AM VERY HAPPY WITH MY DECISION KEEPING A POSITIVE MINDSET WHICH I REQUEST ANY OF YOU TO NOT TWIST INTO NEGATIVITY SINCE THE DEED IS DONE MY FRIEND

Well said, Hardest part is done. Now, I am just waiting and eating/living healthier to help boost my results for next couple of months First 10 days are over, labor intenstive and hard whether its sleeping, removing scabs, post op care, eating, flying, airport security, meds ... OMG, this was a ride to remember :😅

Agreed for 1.5 mm ! You were talking about dermarolling though, not PRP right ? I think PRP is good 4 times a year, Hard to find a good price in Canada (1000 $ min per session which seems like a rip off in today's world for a 15 min job using a centrifuge system which is widely available) , 250$ per session is my wishful price and I will take as many as 4-6 per year continuously to boost my HT results that was recently done by Dr Bhatti. I've contacted many PRP clinics in Toronto to see if they offer me a good quote as a regular long term customer . Some are offering 50% off discount in this season for Eclipse PRP, so 500 $ per session is not bad In short, I want to test PRP for myself in the long run ( 2 -3 years ) to find out if some good thick results are achievable or not

to add: dermaroller is a must two/three times per week and PRP 3 to 4 times per year. Heard it produced some impressive results for many

Good Luck Melvin ! Dr Bhatti also gave me a PRP treatment mid-way during my FUE surgery on 18th march ( it was spreaded around crown area) based on my research, it acts as a " Bonus" a " booster" for age group under 40 if taken in conjunction with FInastride, LLLT helmet, minoxidil, Biotin and a Hair transplant. I plan to take more PRP treatments myself - 3 or 4 more at least over the next 15 months to see for myself if its worthy or not.