mav23100gunther

Why is the Dr no longer recommend?

Like I said, thats life, it happens all the time to almost every business. You gotta take the good with the bad. If you don't want to be concerned about it, then shut down and find another day job. Don't know what else to tell you. I agree with your points regarding Paleo, and that some of his points are irrational, but at the same time he brought some valid stuff to the surface about this clinic that is very concerning.

Didn't Rahal make that assessment for you?

Then maybe you shouldn't own a business. If your business is in fact hard earn't and honest then hopefully you can withstand the wrath of an irrational personality, but surgeons should be held accountable for their work, especially if the clinic chooses to use this forum to prop up its's business. You gotta accept the good with the bad. I suspect the chickens are coming home to roost in this case.

Great choice selecting Erdogan. If I was going for FUE, I would only consider Erdogan, Feriduni or Lorenzo.

Don't the top clinics like H&W, SMG, Rahal allow patients to watch DVDs on the TV during the graft placement process? Why is that okay and yet music for nurses considered distracting? I would think watching a horror moving would be way more distracting. If music helps the nurses get into the zone, then I would rather they be kept happy as apposed to me

No, with a skilled surgeon, the shockloss that occurs in the native hairs will grow back unless that hair was on its way out anyway. What the surgeon may also do is FUE out the previous surgery grafts and re-insert them ifeded to achieve the naturaul look. You are definitely thinking correctly by wanting to wait for your hair loss to stabilize, which should happen if you are on Fin.

Of course Konior is recommended by this site

Neck pillow only, and even though the grafts should be safe by the time you fly, try take care not to bang you head against anything. The trick is to try get a back row window seat, but avoid sleeping against the window itself. Loose fitting mesh hat that won't touch the grafts too muchis fine. Stay away from beanies as they touch the grafts.

Yeah, I take it back then, highly unlikely that Rahal's clinic would engage in that practice.

Win, you had mostly hairline work done which surgeons use singles on, so perhaps Rahal was cherry picking the singles. Did you have strip or FUE again? If strip, maybe he cut the doubles/triples into singles?

It's a very long time flight mate. A top surgeon such as Rahal makes it mandatory not to fly for 3 days post op if the flight is less than 5 hours, and at least 5 days if flight time is longer than 6. Then there are other surgeons such as Dr Feller who stated on an old thread that flying is good for the grafts. I would rather be safe than sorry, and especially because your flight is so long, I'd stay for 5 nights. If your total flight time is 5 hours or less: you are required to stay in Ottawa for 3 nights after your procedure. ‐ If your total flight time is 6 hours or more: you are required to stay in Ottawa for 5 nights after your procedure. ‐If you are driving/taking the train to Ottawa: please speak with Patient Care regarding your ideal stay period after your procedure.

Go to Bosley, sit through their presentation, and then ask the doc for a perscription. Just don't let them sell you a HT. Also try Zeiring

I believe it's the chlorine when differentiating showers from swimming.

Rahal has a similar view regarding flying. Feller believes flying immediately post op is fine. Go figure I guess

I would say giving Doganay a 2nd chance takes care of that

Yup - Shapiro, Hasson, and Rahal are my top 3 and where I landed for my 2nd procedure. It's very tough choosing between those 3. Shapiro is also known for his hairlines, but they tend to be more conservative/mature than Rahal's. Shapiro and Rahal may not be able to grab as many grafts as Hasson can though. It's tough chosing amongst those 3

Agree with Stig. I also suggest you fly to Vancuover and Ottawa to meet with them both in person, and ask them to evaluate your donor and how much they think they get in a pass. I suspect Hasson can get you the most grafts. Also, by meeting with both, you can assess which one resunates the most with you. Sounds like Hasson is your man though, but you can probably toss a coin and get a stellar result with either surgeon. Dr Hasson is a bad man

Brilliant result

Must admit, I am very torn. I think it is easy to blame Paleo for not performing enough research, whilst at the same time, a propspective patient may not know that this is such a shady industry and that one needs to do a lot of research in selecting a surgeon. When I was researching my 1st surgery, I thought it was sufficient to select a surgeon recommended from this site, consult with him, and if I liked what he told me, then I would be fine. Luckily I am still fine, but if only I knew then what I knew now, I guarantee I would not have selected my 1st surgeon. I also would have actually saved a lot of money too if I had chosen the surgeon that in hindsight I wish I had selected back then. No disrespect to Bill, Pat and his team, as I think this forum is amazing and has helped me greatly, but at the same I really do worry about a few of the recommended surgeons they have listed, especially what is coming out regarding Doganay. It's a shame that folks have to really perform a lot more research that being able to just select a recommended surgeon from this site, and being able to trust what they tell a patient. I don't know what the answer is because I really do think Bill and Pat do a great service here and they are diligent in selecting recommended surgeons. It's just a tough tough industry.

Impossible huh? Then how does Dr Konior do it? Yes he does the extractions, incisions, and graft placements by himself - yes every last graft.

Yeah, pull the plug and write-off the costs. Consider Feriduni, Lorenzo, or Erdogan for FUE. If strip, then Hasson, Ron Shapiro, or Rahal.

Early days my friend

Fair point Bill, however, isn't it a concen that the physician is not performing all of the incisions to the recipient area himself? I thought this was the most difficult and specialized part of the whole procedure? So you would allow this practice for your recommended surgeons as long as they produce consistently good results?

Seeing you already have the scar, go with FUT until stripped out. Once you are stripped out, and if you still have donar supply, then switch to FUE. This method will maximize your lifetime grafts. Also watch the scar and the laxity. If after another procedure you think you are close to being stripped out, and have an A+ pencil thin scar, you may want to switch to FUE so as to preserve that scar and not run the risk of the future scar not healing as well. Definitely don't jump to FUE if you still have good laxity and strong donar supply.