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Some patients I have spoken to who have had multiple surgeries have indicated that some procedures had pain post procedure and some didn't. So it seems that it isn't patient specific. I would say 1 in 10 patients do complain about pain in the donor area up to a few days post op. I always advise patients to take their own painkillers with them just in case the clinic provided ones run short. As Pete says Co-codomols or Ibuprofen should help you get through the days if you are one of these patients. Just be prepared to stick it out, it will calm down with each passing day.

Possibly, but if there were any pics of him showing even a slight thinning of his hair then the press dogs would have been all over it. You are talking about one of the most photographed and written about people in the entire world, so at some point something would have leaked. For that reason, I'm out!

Just a fade cut that. The guys rarely out of the media limelight, he's never had his head shaved, just no tell tale signs of a procedure over the course of his spectacular career. I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree.

Hi Petroholic, Thank you for sharing with the forum your experience with Dr Bhatti thus far, I hope you have the time and energy to continue to update us all on your future progress. It's very reassuring that after vigorously exploring all your options in your native India that you decided to proceed with Dr Bhatti. I personally will be following your journey with interest having spoken to you previously. As always feel free to call me if you need any help and guidance. Happy growing my friend.

Hi Baldlives, There are many surgeries that do not produce the desired result, many life determining ones too that are carried out at great expense, especially in your native US. I wonder if these patients get full refunds if things don't work out as planned? With other goods and services we consumers purchase and feel are not quite up to our expectations, do we ever get full refunds? In the case of the patient Techie you will see that myself and my US colleague California reached out to the patient at an early stage. The patient actually never did have any dialogue with me. Moving onto the surgery itself, it would have been carried out exactly the same as mine just 7 months prior and I'm yet to see a result nearly 5 years down the line that comes even close to mine considering the number of grafts used. So why did the surgery fail? I'm sure you are aware being an ex and current patient yourself that many factors besides the surgery itself can determine an end result. Amongst other factors, a patient's own physiology comes into play and a patient's own state of mind in my opinion. In this case, the patient does highlight that he was pretty stressed with work. Hair transplant surgery besides, is this the right frame of mind to recover from any surgery? Should a surgeon that has performed a near perfect surgery be penalised for factors out of his/her own control? Is the offer for free repeat surgery not already a generous gesture? The patient himself refers to the other poster husqvarnawrk as being present at the clinic and having his surgery the previous day, well here's a link to his own review, https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/41858-dr-bhatti-1500-fue-on-crown-29th-april-2015/ The exact same high level of care and surgical protocols would have been used for both surgeries. As for not trusting the Doc who gave him a bad result, in the patients own words, "Overall impression is everyone there including Dr. Bhatti are both very personable as well as professional. I felt extremely comfortable the whole time" Ultimately if a patient declines a free surgery with the Dr who gave him a bad result and decides to go with another surgeon who has in all likelihood given other patients bad results then that's really their prerogative. Unless of course that particular surgeon has a 100% success record!

Dr Bhatti stood by the result, accepted full responsibility and offered to fix it for free but the patient was working in South East Asia and decided to visit a local surgeon instead. And that's the last we heard from him.

Not a big fan of Laser, in fact I see at as a big con aimed specifically at vulnerable hair loss patients who will try anything to get their hair back. You only have to do a google search for "laser hair therapy" and check out the results some of the cosmetic clinics claim are down to laser therapy. Scandalous, don't be taken in folks.

Prior to my surgery Dr Bhatti's team used their own dye, haven't a clue what the name was, but worked a treat. When I occasionally dye my hair I use Schwarzkopf Live, comes in all different colours and each box lasts about 5-6 applications. I actually just use the black (no 99) but may experiment with other brighter colours now that I approach my mid life crisis!

As mentioned earlier, dying the hair before surgery is the simplest option. Been there myself, no issues whatsoever.

Sadsurfer, Your scalp donor area is looking quite thin after losing 3200 grafts. I would say anything 2000 or so grafts will make the thinning more noticeable. If you want to take more, then you might want to consider future SMP in this area to mask the transparency. You do have the option of taking grafts from the beard, if you love your beard then you could just take 500 or so from the shadow area under the chin.

Once your follicles/grafts are removed from the donor area they are gone from this area for good, that is the norm and that it what you should assume will happen in your case. No one has an infinite number of grafts and I'm yet to come across a patient in real life or across the many forums who has miraculously regrown grafts in the donor area once they have been removed.

A young boy went up to his father and asked him, "Dad, what is the difference between 'potentially' and 'realistically'?" The father thought for a moment, then answered, "Go ask your mother if she would sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars. Then ask your sister if she would sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars, and then, ask your brother if he'd sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars. Come back and tell me what you learn from that." So the boy went to his mother and asked, "Would you sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars?" The mother replied, "Of course, I would! We could really use that money to fix up the house and send you kids to a great university!" The boy then went to his sister and asked, "Would you sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars?" The girl replied, "Oh, good heavens! I LOVE Brad Pitt and I would sleep with him in a heartbeat. Are you nuts?" The boy then went to his brother and asked, "Would you sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars?" "Of course," the brother replied. "Do you know how much a million bucks would buy?" The boy pondered the answers for a few days and then went back to his dad. His father asked him, "Did you find out the difference between 'potentially' and 'realistically'?" The boy replied, "Yes, 'Potentially', you and I are sitting on three million dollars, but 'realistically', we're living with two hookers and a future congressman."

Hi, You might want to start taking the same photos at monthly intervals and comparing them. You'll soon enough know whether you are suffering from early hair loss. Only then you should try to address it.

Same here Pete, mine just seems to fall into place like its got some kind of auto styling mechanism built in

This is one of the major factors for most patients for undergoing hair restoration surgery in the first place. I would say everyone who has had a successful surgery would answer a resounding Yes to your question.

You are a Norwood 7 patient with very limited scalp donor. Ideally to cover such a large area you will need 5000-7000 scalp grafts, potentially 11000 to 15500 hairs If you go for the 2000 scalp, 1500 chest and 1000 beard, that's 4000 grafts in total potentially approx. 7000 hairs. I have assumed that scalp grafts will give you an average of 2.2 hairs with body hairs mostly singles and I have assumed all your grafts will grow out. So, looking at that breakdown I would say you are very likely to have a follow up second surgery in your quest for hair. Even if you decide to leave the crown alone, I still think another pass a year later will be required, I hope I'm wrong.

Hi hairtargeter , 2000 grafts is probably hitting the maximum from your scalp donor. What you don't want is to overharvest potentially resulting in damage to the few grafts that are left behind. It might make more sense not to be so aggressive in this area so you can take some more out the second time around. 1500 grafts from your chest is a good number but I would concentrate on 1000+ grafts from your beard area before hitting the chest. If the grafts grow out successfully over your hairline and mid scalp then you might be happy with the coverage but I think you will need another pass to strengthen some areas when you go for your second surgery to address your crown. Again, as recommended to all patients, do your research with the emphasis on patient posted independent reviews. across different forums. All the best to you.

Hi hairtargeter, As I have personally seen your pictures I would go with the plan you mention in your first post. This will maximise the impact of the very limited grafts you have and hopefully will provide you with a good foundation for further surgery(s) when successfully grown out. Yours is a very challenging case so you should set your expectations accordingly.

Oh dear, I really feel for you there. We make it crystal clear from the outset to each patient that they should sleep upright in a chair using a decent flight pillow (memory foam is more comfortable than blow up ) for support for the first and possibly second nights following surgery. I would have thought this would be common sense too but I suppose a patient after a long tiring surgery doesn't always think straight. Fair play to your doctor for offering to fix the problem for free, I hope over time it all works out for you.

Hi, You can contact me any time if you wish to discuss things. You have my personal contact details. Give me a call and we'll have that chat.

Harry, Post some pictures up of your scalp and the forum will soon let you know if hair transplant is a viable option for you. There may be other options too, everything will be clearer when we see your pics.

Hi Harin, This is not the first time this has happened recently. I can't see any valid reason for a new user doing this apart from him/her being coerced to do so from another clinic. My own natural instinct in such situations is not to idly stand by. I've also a pretty good idea where it came from which is a surprise because I actually held that clinic in extremely high regard. Even during my own patient review you will see several times my result being unfairly knocked and it actually took one of Dr Erdogen's star patients Yaz to shut down the trolling once and for all. Professional jealousy is very much alive and kicking. Anyway I agree whole heatedly with the rest of your post, spot on. Also I hope you are enjoying your very own fine new head of hair, it'll be great if you could post some fresh pictures, I'm intrigued to see how 9000 grafts look like a few years down the line. All the best to you Harin.

Hi Yungpab, Your hairline looks OK for 8 months. You still have the possibility of more growth and your hair itself will over the next few months mature back to its natural state hopefully giving you a more softer look. Be patient and ride it out.

So sad to see that you register a new account specifically to make a post on a thread that is nearly 4 years old. The doctor(s) that you are working for should be embarrassed by your stupidity, the forum is not so taken in. If they are fairly new to the forum then perhaps they can be forgiven but they should be made aware of forum etiquette by the mods and maybe next time show a bit more class. Do we really want to go back to the days of shills and trolling goons? No, lets try to keep this forum positive.