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Hi Wheredoigo, If you are thinking of going to Dr Cinik, then you should take a look at the thread below, it's a wonderful transformation. You could private message the patient, he comes across as someone who will be more than happy to assist you.

Hi Paddy, he means 10mg which is equivalent to 10,000 mcg. You are right in saying a good balanced diet should provide all the Biotin we need. As for overdoing it, Biotin is considered very safe and any excess is passed through the body. On another note, one of your fellow Irishman, the Pogues’ Shane MacGowan says Guinness is the only proven hair loss treatment. He's quoted here. “They sell all those lotions to cure you of baldness… They don’t work. There is only one way to cure baldness – you pour Guinness over your head, collect it in a bucket, and drink it in the morning,” he says. “It’s proven to work.” We all might be missing a trick there

Johan, We will support you and do what we can to ensure your initial expectations are met as much as is possible. I have PM'd you and I hope to speak with you soon.

It is very common to have a repeat top up procedure especially in areas where your native hair has continued to recede leaving only transplanted hairs. The surgeon will use magnifiers when making the slits to ensure no healthy grafts are damaged. The new grafts will be implanted in these slits. So in answer to your question, the subsequent incision and implantation process will not cause damage to your existing follicles.

Hi George, Unlimited grafts often means the surgeon/technicians will over-harvest your donor area and plant as much grafts as possible to ensure just enough survive to give you an OK result so there are no comebacks. Hair loss is progressive so a few years down the line when you might need another procedure due to further recession you have little scalp donor left. An ethical surgeon will look at your age, family balding history, medical history and other factors and devise a plan to maximise your grafts to ensure you are not in the situation described above. Consulting with the 2 surgeons mentioned above would be a good start for you.

Badresults, I'm not really sure where to start here, I'm not sure where you are from and I'm not sure why you haven't made the effort to at least try to contact myself or one of Dr Bhatti's other representatives. For those who feel I or someone else should have replied sooner, Badresults chose not to go through me or any of my colleagues, he went to Dr Bhatti direct. Even now he has gone gung ho on this website using links and tabs to cause maximum damage to Dr Bhatti and basically all of us who have a connection with the clinic. Badresults clearly doesn't value mine or any of my colleagues’ opinions or surely he would have at least made an approach. So I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do at this very late stage once all the fireworks have been let off and no one invited me to the party. Perhaps some of you could enlighten me. I look after guys from the UK and some from abroad who contact me. Those that choose to go through me get my support and to date I think they value it highly; you can search for any complaints. I manage 2- 3 guys’ journeys a month and that's it. It's not my full time profession, more like a hobby; I get a buzz out of changing people’s lives for the better. There are many guys who have messaged me privately on this site and they know I've always tried to give my honest opinion and not ram a transplant down their throats. So a little respect would be nice, after all first and foremost I am just another patient. Those that choose not to go through me, I'm not even aware of their existence. As I've been called out here (thanks Kevin20), I'm going to give my take on this, I won't be making any more posts on this thread, if anyone wishes me to elaborate they can PM me. I'll leave it to Badresults to post the full story and you armchair experts can form your own opinions. All I ask in the interest of fairness is that Badresults presents the full facts of his case, I will speak to Dr Bhatti and I will have a read of all the correspondence to see if any other issues should be raised. If so I will present the facts only through PM to any of you interested guys in discussion. So here we go, Badresults, firstly can I ask where you had your first surgery? What made you choose that particular surgeon? What were the reasons given for the failure of your first surgery? Why did you not feel the need to name and shame that particular doctor and clinic? Also to get a clearer overall picture of your case, can you post clear pictures before and immediately after this first surgery clearly showing the implanted area and your donor area post surgery. This will help determine whether a pattern of bad growth exists with both surgeries and the donor that Dr Bhatti had at his disposal. Also, I'm not trying to be clever here; it clearly is another procedure where your implanted grafts have not grown out, that is not questionable. It is a good move to see a dermatologist and I'm a little surprised that you did not see one after your first failed surgery where any issues with your scalp could have been identified and addressed. Have you even considered that your first surgery could be to blame for your subsequent failure? Your implantation area certainly would have been in a worse condition than in your first surgery, this is why it’s important to see clear pictures of that surgery immediately post op so this theory can be discarded. You should have allied your expectations with the evidence clearly in front of you. One failure doesn't guarantee success in a second surgery regardless of the doctor, no surgery is guaranteed to work as you clearly now know. Also, it could be that you are just not a good candidate due to your physiological make up. Maybe your scalp just won't take new grafts or is damaged from the first surgery. These are all ifs and buts but the reality is there is no straight forward answer to a transplant failure. Name a surgeon who has a 100% success rate on a virgin scalp never mind one that is in for repair. Another reason could be the technique and the surgery itself. I know some of you will be delighted that I've finally come to this point but if that is the case then how do you explain the temple points growing out just fine. That would clearly point to a problem with your scalp. The doctors reply in this case is pretty accurate, seriously what more can you do apart from go to another doctor and document your story from the start so we can follow it and if it doesn't work this time I guess you owe Dr Bhatti a massive apology. On the other hand if it does work you have a strong case for at least a partial refund from Dr Bhatti. I would be more than happy to take this up for you. And again, he's right; if it fails a 3rd time from another doc then there's no point in going on. Words I'm sure you don't want to hear but you should. To round off, if the surgery was your first surgery with Dr Bhatti then you would have a strong case, but as it's a total failure and a repair from a previous unknown doctor's surgery then it was always going to be uncertain. Seeing all the successful repairs Dr Bhatti had previously completed and documented you mitigated the risk by going to him but it didn't work and you should have at least had that thought at the back of your mind. Also you say you did your correspondence all through email, the fact is you had direct personal contact with Dr Bhatti throughout and no third party. You were also free to skype him as many patients do. I'm not really sure what else you expected. You have tried to twist this to make Dr Bhatti look bad. It will be interesting what your thoughts will be when your "elite" surgeon talks to you through one of his many secretaries. To conclude you should go to that "elite" surgeon but you should be aware there are no guarantees. Prior to any surgery you should visit a few dermatologists and see whether they can find any underlying issue for the failure of nearly 4000 grafts to grow in 2 separate attempts from 2 differing techniques. I do understand your upset and I really hope it works out for you the next time. All the best.

Hi Brad, You will need approximately 1800 grafts (approx 2.2 hairs per graft) to strengthen your hairline and fill in your temple areas. Once grown out, you should look brand new.

No, it should look better, but shaving your hair after covering such a large bald area with 2000 grafts is never going to be your best option even if you had a 100% graft survival rate. Grow it out and it and see how looks in terms of coverage and direction. See you in about 3 weeks.

I confirm that Dr Bhatti does all of the following - Counseling and hairline design - Trimming - Anesthesia - Harvesting the grafts from the donor area (extraction) - Slit making in the recipient area - Dressing The placement of the grafts is completed by his longstanding skilled technicians.

Six months duration will help recover your existing native hair and in some patients it seems to give the newly implanted grafts a boost, I think it did in my case anyway. After 6 months you could continue or stagger the use to help sustain your native hair and delay any future loss.

Hey Kickbuttmario, grow you hair out for a good few weeks so it can be assessed properly. As for regulations, I'm sure some of your fellow North Americans can help you out here...............or maybe its just a myth that clinics and surgical procedures are regulated in that part of the world, after all a certain clinic beginning with 'BO' seems to have got panned since the dawn of time and yet it's still fully operational!

Hi KickbuttMario, Some precise analysis there from DrTBarghouthi. Your pre surgery pics are still online at the link below I wish you'd not rushed into this 18 months ago. I know you had regrets the moment you got home after the surgery. But saying that we are told again and again how North American clinics are regulated etc, perhaps you should first try to go to one of these so called regulation bodies and at least try to get your something back. As for your current situation, it will be too much hassle to get any grafts removed and as stated before if you are happy to keep your hair that short its pointless in you going for another hair surgery. You should seriously consider SMP as recommended to you in your previous post above. Why waste thousands of dollars on new hair that no one will ever see?

Anyone of them listed surgeons will be able to quite easily implant approximately a further 1200 grafts in your hairline, so once grown out it is uniform with the density further back. It's appears to be a relatively minor touch up, there should be no issues. But first you might want to wait the full 12-18 months before making your final assessment.

Amug, The channels you see are quite common and they are nothing to worry about. They don't seem to affect the final result.

For several years Dr Bhatti has been consistently producing results with patients long term interests at heart. Through strategic placement of grafts he has managed to maximise limited donor graft availability in patients to produce outstanding aesthetic results. He has managed to repair patients that have been butchered by their previous procedures. To say a surgeon of Dr Bhatti's skill and experience would then choose an approach that he feels will jeopardize the chance of graft survival is foolhardy at the very least. The fact is that Dr Bhatti consistently produces yields of 95% or more. He could use double the grafts if they are available to silence the doubters but a patients long term well being is far more important than an anonymous opinion on a Web forum.

Hi Jhonny, Dr Bhatti prescribes Finasteride for 6 months post surgery, most patients continue to use it beyond this period. Some continue to use it at a lower dosage and less frequency because it still appears to do its function in retaining existing hair and slowing down the natural balding process in native hairs. Moving on, if the Doctor took all available grafts in one procedure (over harvesting) then visible scarring is more likely and there is the threat that damage to adjacent healthy grafts will occur. This is often overlooked. With patients with limited donor it is paramount that each graft is given the best chance of survival. There is limited blood supply to the scalp and grafts placed too tightly together are also at more risk of dying out as they fight for nutrients to survive. Also there is a lot made of density of hairlines when the real issue should perhaps be realistic expectations according to one’s unique balding pattern and family balding history. There is no one size fits all. Therefore, as far as results and density of hairlines is concerned, every case needs to be planned differently. A person with stable baldness and with Grade 3 pattern, can be afforded high densities of 65 FUs per sq cm which will be a pipe dream for a person with Grade 5 at 25 with evidence of low scalp and body hair donors. When judging results for patients, it needs to be taken into account that all cases are different and to pick out a case with Grade 5 with lower density as compared with another with higher density is being unfair. I personally feel Dr Bhatti has posted enough cases on this forum (and others) and on his youtube page (Darling Buds Clinic) for anyone to be comfortable with his results. Most importantly, he is a proficient hair transplant surgeon, works in a safe facility he owns, his practice is transparent, he does not give unrealistic expectations to patients like so many clinics across the globe. I talk to patients on most days whose lives have been transformed by Dr Bhatti. Every evening out in my home town in the UK it’s rare not to be greeted by at least one of Dr Bhattis’ happy patients. Also, I have seen cases where guys from the UK have gone with cheap packages abroad and have told me they had 2000 or so grafts taken out where the reality when looking at their donor area is that they had double that. The reason being that the amateur clinics believe that the more they implant the more chance of a half decent result therefore no comebacks. Thankfully Dr Bhatti does not operate that way.

Johnny, Your balding pattern is very similar to what mine was and I'm yet to see another result nearly 5 years on from any surgeon worldwide that betters mine for only 3305 grafts used. I think with 3500-4000 grafts you will have a result that resembles a full head of hair. If you take Finasteride it looks like you have a lot of hairs that can be recovered and will enhance your result further. If you really want that super dense look then you always have the option of having a second surgery to top up the previous implanted areas. Also you may have missed some of these results by Dr Bhatti, 30 year old Irish Man large 2 day session http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/170853-4346-fue-grafts-dr-bhatti-india.html 25 Year old Indian 1800 grafts to hairline http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182061-my-hair-transplant-journey-dr-tejinder-bhatti-1800-grafts-7months-completed.html 28 year old German Caucasian 1800 grafts https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51963-dr-bhatti-is-the-best/?tab=comments#comment-480344 David - Hair Transplant Network Moderator http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/178637-dr-tejinder-bhatti-2412-fue-february-23-2015-a.html 36 year old American 3750 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/169005-hair-restoration-procedure-w-dr-tejinder-bhatti.html 37 year old male from Singapore https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/41858-dr-bhatti-1500-fue-on-crown-29th-april-2015/ 29 year old Australian 4000 grafts (this was the story that inspired me to go to Dr Bhatti) http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/167897-hair-transplant-dr-tejinder-bhatti-darling-buds-chandigarh-india.html 27 year old German 2364 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/170355-my-experience-dr-tejinder-bhatti-2364-grafts-fue-restore-hairline.html https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=9836&WebID=2698 30 year old Indian 2500 grafts repair surgery http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/171606-dr-tejinder-bhatti-2500-grafts.html 26 year old european 3011 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/175743-dr-tejinder-bhatti-3011-fue-grafts.html 26 year old Indian 3200 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/175746-dr-tejinder-bhatti-3200-fue-grafts.html 29 year old indian 3200 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/175747-dr-tejinder-bhatti-3200-fue-grafts-type-4-patient.html Seth Australian Patient 3 surgeries with Dr Bhatti http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/Sethticles/albums/4866/28695 31 year old Israeli 2485 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/171738-hey-guys-i-got-help-you-so-here-i-post-my-story-dr-tejinder-bhatti.html 37 year old US man 2928 grafts to repair 2 previous sub standard surgeries http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/168567-fue-hair-transplant-dec-14-2012-dr-tejinder-bhatti-darling-buds.html 27 year old indian male http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/175847-6-months-update-dr-bhatti.html Traction Alopecia Case http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/168356-traction-alopecia-sikh-male-punjab-india.html Indian 3000 grafts part 1 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/168631-dr-bhatti-fue-hair-transplant-2-stages.html UK Guy 3000 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/HTindia/albums/1775 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/168149-caucasian-male-3000-fue-grafts.html Indian Guy 5000 grafts http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/168492-dr-bhatti-fue-body-hair-transformation.html

The donor looks better, I stick to my plan above but only this time you may get away with not having SMP to disguise the thinning in your donor area and you may well get the additional grafts from your scalp donor rather than going down the beard route.

Hi Hairlessmonkey, Judging from your pictures I would say that 2000 grafts are certainly possible from your donor area if you are prepared to accept it being noticeably thinner than it already is. You also have the option of 500 or so beard grafts taken from beneath your chin for placement behind the hairline alongside scalp grafts to add to the overall density. That's a potential 2500 grafts that can be implanted behind your hairline to thicken up your temples and mid scalp area and to add coverage to your crown area. It will most likely be your last procedure. You could try growing out the back a little longer to help hide the scalp or following your next surgery you could have a course of SMP completed in that area to hide the visible scalp. Saying that you could have also SMP on other areas of your scalp to add to the illusion of having a full head of hair. I hope that helps.

Hey Useless! You should do your research especially looking into independent patient reviews across different forums. Try to pick out patients who had a similar balding pattern and hair characteristics to yourself. You should then contact both clinics and go with your gut instinct.....you will know which one feels right for you. There is already a thread as mentioned by Melvin where patients give their opinions, but in the end the choice has to be yours..

Lennney, you're a star! I'm sure that info will help some folk save a small fortune, top man!

PM me and I'll try to explain things in more details.

Hi Stevie, Please have a read at the link below https://darlingbuds.com/african-profile It's not as straight forward as Asian/Caucasian hair. Also be aware of potential Keloid scarring which is more prominent with patients of African descent.

Hi, I've actually just recently seen the rest of the pics, the op sent them to me. The focus of the transplant was the hairline and the frontal third and the pics we see above was just a few excess grafts scattered in the crown area which will need to be addressed in a follow up surgery. It actually does look like a few thousand grafts were used, just wanted to clarify that for you guys.

Number 6 : You need to know that once your hair transplant has successfully grown out you'll look great wearing your mum's favorite T Shirt! 😀