hair greed is so real

[hsrp10]

Agreed with the softening approach, you have basically a killer hairline in terms of height and density behind it.

Going with an elite surgeon to iron out the fine touches to remove the pluginess would perfect it.

 

One of the hairline kings would be my suggestion, Konior, Bisanga and also maybe Dr. Cooley as mentioned

good luck

[gillenator]

Some thoughts on this subject. Hair greed is a very real phenomenon. And those of us who have sustained hair loss "and" also benefitted from good results from HT surgery can all relate to this.

 

We can get caught up in the mind frame of "how can this be better" when most of the time things are just fine. What I mean by this is having our hairline back and decent illusionary coverage. Yet it's very easy to start thinking, "If I could only get this hair more dense or my hairline lowered, I would be happy".

 

Now don't get me wrong, most of us will need more than one procedure and there is nothing wrong with that. But what I am talking about is pushing the limit beyond our donor resources and not taking into account future loss especially when it's clearly in our cards to lose more. Or, could I be doing more damage than good to continue adding grafts to the same zone?

 

Some of tend to want a perfect hairline or density that we had when we were in our teens. IMHO, it's not necessary to look spectacular.

 

The danger is going overboard to the point where surgery becomes anti- productive and even detrimental in some cases, including necrosis.

 

It sort of reminds me of an old tattoo I have on my bicep. It was originally done by a buddy in high school. It was an eagle's head with feathers around it. But it was not a very good work of art. So through the years I tried to get it improved with more work done to it. I never was satisfied with it. The scarring kept compounding to the point that new ink would not take.

 

Then something weird happened. On the fourth and final try, I noticed that the area had acute prolonged pain that lasted several years and eventually went away. Then the area got discolored and before I knew it, some of the flesh just started dying and cratering. It scared the bejeebees our of me because I could clearly see that necrosis had set in. Now, I have some craters within the tattoo and some ugly scarring as a result of it. Plus I am out some extra $ because of the expense of seeing a specialist to treat the necrosis. Thank goodness it did not spread outside of the tattoo.

 

Moral of the story? Leave well enough alone!...:eek:

[Mikey1970]

I think that is a very sensible post Gillenator.

 

I would also encourage Peapoddy to read my thread as an example of what can possibly go wrong. I personally believe now that when a transplant looks good, leave it.

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180455-shock-loss-warning-against-frequent-procedures.html

[matt3480]

I disagree with most here. If you feel it's an issue and you have the donor, do it. You are 33....not like you are 21.

 

Sure, some say don't risk it as your hair looks good. However, I say take that element of risk out and go to someone like Konior and you basically take away the risk and basically are guaranteed it's going to get fixed. He is the expert on repairing other surgeon's horrible or even just average work. If you feel the one side is that uneven....get it fixed, too. You definitely want both sides to be consistent....especially if they are crooked enough to notice. I can't tell from your pics how noticeable it really is in real life.

 

However, if you are going to go to some surgeon on the corner.....then yeah, you have to balance whether it's worth it.

[gillenator]

Just speaking for myself...it's not that I was singling out Peabody for doing something wrong. We each have to be our own judge as to what our individual needs are. Interesting though that he gave his thread the title of, "Hair greed is so real".

 

Nor are we comparing repair situations to the larger point which is, "when well enough has been attained, don't fix something that's not broken!"

[Teddy]

Seriously? Mate you have amazing hair stop even thinking about that.

Would you seriously go through all the pain and discomfort of an HT for that thin, almost invisible, lack of hair? Please don't.

[wibbles180]

Hi Peabody , have a look at dr lupanzula (medikemos) latest video of the hairline work , I think it's something similar to what you are after ... obviously you wouldn't need as many grafts but just some singles and refinement of the hairline .

[peapoddy]

Thanks for the advice guys really appreciate it

 

Haha so last night my gf's grandad had a dig at my hair . He just started looking at my hair and said ,you're losing your hair ,right? I kind of just froze and shrugged it off trying to change the subject ,but I guess he was determined to get a response from me lol So he kept repeating it and I just nodded yes ,then my gf saved me and jumped in lmao I dont mind the fact he told me my hair is thin/thinning, it's just the awkwardness when it's in front of a group of people as it was thanksgiving

 

I need to develope tougher skin haha

[Melvin- Admin]

Peapoddy,

We all can speculate and give advice but at the end of the day you're the one who has to make the decision. Based on the photos you've presented and how many times people have questioned you about your hair I think it's fair to say it doesn't look natural. IMHO looking natural is the single most important thing, having a dense thick hairline is no good unless it looks natural that's my opinion.

[hsrp10]

Would have to agree with HTsoon, choose an elite surgeon and have a small touchup when you are ready to perfect your almost finished masterpiece.

[mav23100gunther]

Agreed with the softening approach, you have basically a killer hairline in terms of height and density behind it.

Going with an elite surgeon to iron out the fine touches to remove the pluginess would perfect it.

 

One of the hairline kings would be my suggestion, Konior, Bisanga and also maybe Dr. Cooley as mentioned

good luck

 

You did not have Dr Rahal mentioned in the same sentence as hairline King. I would add him as this is his specialty.

[rev333]

easy fix.

 

By Summer 201, you can slick it back out of the pool.

 

DO IT!

[hsrp10]

You did not have Dr Rahal mentioned in the same sentence as hairline King. I would add him as this is his specialty.

 

Lol, I didn't know a hair restoration veteran of more than 25 years and lifelong hair loss sufferer had to be forced to mention Rahal in every post, ridiculous.

 

I believe the OP should have a small FUE procedure and listed the doctors I recommend for his case.

[peapoddy]

Thanks for the advice

 

How many grafts do you think i should go for ?

[1978matt]

Thanks for the advice

 

How many grafts do you think i should go for ?

 

800 on your right side, 200 on the left. Mostly single haired units.

[gillenator]

And even though it's a small touch-up procedure, it should produce a nice aesthetic result when done with a good skilled surgeon...

[johnsmith20172017]

Hi peapody. Have you considered body hair transplants. Leg hair is perfect for refining your hairline. Also another thing you should start doing is plucking your hairline in order to thin it out. As it has been pointed out your surgeon has put the thickest hair from your FUT procedure in the front which gives it an unnatural appearance. Start plucking and you will start having a more feathered hairline.

 

The closest your hairline hair diameter is to your temple triangle diameter. The more natural the result.

[harryforreal]

I've been plucking for 3 years now at least. Over 5 years since the original H.T. How long does it take? I

 

Next step for me is electrolysis in a couple weeks.

[quidproquo82]

Like the others have said, I think the position of the hairline is age appropriate. It should not go any lower. I agree that it needs to be softened a bit with some single unit grafts. This should be a relatively easy fix.

[johnsmith20172017]

I've been plucking for 3 years now at least. Over 5 years since the original H.T. How long does it take? I

 

Next step for me is electrolysis in a couple weeks.

 

Has the hair not started to grow back a bit thinner after three years?

[harryforreal]

I would say no. If it has, it really isn't satisfactory.

 

There are actually 3 problems; it is not simply an issue of thickness.

 

1) FIRST AND FOREMOST I would say is the hair color - which is very dark. If you look at my photos in my profile, you will see that the transplanted hairs on top are significantly darker than on the side.

 

2) Thickness. The darker, thicker hairs at the front of the hairline just look off. I mean, if they had been lighter or the same color as the hair on the sides maybe it wouldn't be such an issue; or maybe if they had been as thin as the hair on the sides maybe it wouldn't be such an issue in spite of the the darker color.

But combine the darker color with thicker diameter, and it just looks a bit strange, especially when other hairs behind and around the transplanted hairs are lighter and thinner.

 

3) Numerous doubles in the hairline just add to the strangeness of it all. You end up with a dark, thick "tree trunk" at the front of your hairline.

 

Honestly, at times it looks like black surgical stitches - especially the doubles. It also depends on lighting. Sometimes it looks worse than others, other times, it's not so noticeable depending on the lighting.

 

On top of that, the redness that persisted until I had 2 V-Beam treatments last spring just added further strangeness to it all.

 

Now that the redness has finally left after the V-Beam treatments, the eye isn't quite so drawn to the hairline anymore - though 2 weeks ago a young female colleague took a perplexed double look at my hairline twice while I was speaking to her. I moved in a bit closer and spoke just a bit louder to draw her attention back to my face, and then ended the conversation before retreating back to my office area where I proceeded to "smooth" the hairline out and place it in such a way that it might not attract further scrutiny.

[ndubya]

I would say no. If it has, it really isn't satisfactory.

 

There are actually 3 problems; it is not simply an issue of thickness.

 

1) FIRST AND FOREMOST I would say is the hair color - which is very dark. If you look at my photos in my profile, you will see that the transplanted hairs on top are significantly darker than on the side.

 

2) Thickness. The darker, thicker hairs at the front of the hairline just look off. I mean, if they had been lighter or the same color as the hair on the sides maybe it wouldn't be such an issue; or maybe if they had been as thin as the hair on the sides maybe it wouldn't be such an issue in spite of the the darker color.

But combine the darker color with thicker diameter, and it just looks a bit strange, especially when other hairs behind and around the transplanted hairs are lighter and thinner.

 

3) Numerous doubles in the hairline just add to the strangeness of it all. You end up with a dark, thick "tree trunk" at the front of your hairline.

 

Honestly, at times it looks like black surgical stitches - especially the doubles. It also depends on lighting. Sometimes it looks worse than others, other times, it's not so noticeable depending on the lighting.

 

On top of that, the redness that persisted until I had 2 V-Beam treatments last spring just added further strangeness to it all.

 

Now that the redness has finally left after the V-Beam treatments, the eye isn't quite so drawn to the hairline anymore - though 2 weeks ago a young female colleague took a perplexed double look at my hairline twice while I was speaking to her. I moved in a bit closer and spoke just a bit louder to draw her attention back to my face, and then ended the conversation before retreating back to my office area where I proceeded to "smooth" the hairline out and place it in such a way that it might not attract further scrutiny.

 

I would agree with 1 and 2, I didn't have the 3rd problem.

Thanks for the info on the v-beam, I am still really red after almost 13 months.

[johnsmith20172017]

I would say no. If it has, it really isn't satisfactory.

 

There are actually 3 problems; it is not simply an issue of thickness.

 

1) FIRST AND FOREMOST I would say is the hair color - which is very dark. If you look at my photos in my profile, you will see that the transplanted hairs on top are significantly darker than on the side.

 

2) Thickness. The darker, thicker hairs at the front of the hairline just look off. I mean, if they had been lighter or the same color as the hair on the sides maybe it wouldn't be such an issue; or maybe if they had been as thin as the hair on the sides maybe it wouldn't be such an issue in spite of the the darker color.

But combine the darker color with thicker diameter, and it just looks a bit strange, especially when other hairs behind and around the transplanted hairs are lighter and thinner.

 

3) Numerous doubles in the hairline just add to the strangeness of it all. You end up with a dark, thick "tree trunk" at the front of your hairline.

 

Honestly, at times it looks like black surgical stitches - especially the doubles. It also depends on lighting. Sometimes it looks worse than others, other times, it's not so noticeable depending on the lighting.

 

On top of that, the redness that persisted until I had 2 V-Beam treatments last spring just added further strangeness to it all.

 

Now that the redness has finally left after the V-Beam treatments, the eye isn't quite so drawn to the hairline anymore - though 2 weeks ago a young female colleague took a perplexed double look at my hairline twice while I was speaking to her. I moved in a bit closer and spoke just a bit louder to draw her attention back to my face, and then ended the conversation before retreating back to my office area where I proceeded to "smooth" the hairline out and place it in such a way that it might not attract further scrutiny.

Have you thought about softening the hairline with leg hair?

[gillenator]

Dark hair color can certainly present a unique set of visual contrasts. The darker the hair color and lighter complexion color produce a wide color contrast and the darker hair color also reflects more light off of the scalp.

 

Hair harvested from the typical donor zone in the back of the scalp (occipital zone) tends to have optimal hair caliber as compared to a thinning zone where the hair is diffusing. Hair on the sides especially side burns tend to grey or lose pigmentation sooner than the donor zone.

 

So yes, both the darker color and fatter caliber can be potentially more obvious visually speaking.

 

A good FUE surgeon can cherry pick some softer and lighter grafts from the sides to place in the hairline which can soften or help produce some better aesthetics to the hairline.

[Ernie]

Have you thought about softening the hairline with leg hair?

 

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