Dr. Hasson | 3,000 graft | 31M Caucasian | Documenting the Journey

[sukh123]

51 minutes ago, Vann said:

That’s exactly my point. That mindset where the results are final are only if you have a successful hair transplant that you can put all that behind you. Whether you think your subjective opinion is the right answer to how the OP should feel isn’t what matters. It’s the care they are getting with the idea that they would have their post care questions addressed. 
 

It’s. A hair transplant not open heart surgery , what do you want the doctor to give him a lolipop and carry him to the  car. So he didn’t get a few questions answered after the procedure , they’ve said they were in the wrong in that . 

[Legend007]

In my opinion as a prior patient… 

I don’t  care how busy u are n how good ur team is .. I’m paying u $2,000 an hour for a 8-10 hour surgery … I don’t care if u have a PHD n millions in ur bank ..I want ur azz in the room with me .. at all times n no breaks… no restroom breaks either !!! 

[sukh123]

2 minutes ago, Legend007 said:

In my opinion as a prior patient… 

I don’t  care how busy u are n how good ur team is .. I’m paying u $2,000 an hour for a 8-10 hour surgery … I don’t care if u have a PHD n millions in ur bank ..I want ur azz in the room with me .. at all times n no breaks… no restroom breaks either !!! 

So what he can piss on the floor , talking about being over the top lol

[Kent]

17 minutes ago, shiba1985 said:

No one saying 100% of the time. All though in my opinion a surgeon should be in the OR majority of time. 
Organ transplant surgeries (liver, etc.) sometimes last 12+ hours, and doctors do take breaks during those surgeries too. 

But you dont feel a surgeon should visit with you at the end of surgery and debrief? You dont think they should be in the vicinity if anything happens medication side effect wise? such as pharmacological toxicity? Or you think its ok monitoring from home?

i suppose i see it differently. 

 

I had a HT from Hasson 10 days ago and I can confirm his surgical practice is completely patient centered. There is constant patient attention throughout a very long day. He is very reassuring and his nurses and technicians tend to your every need. They give lots of breaks and explain every step along the way. It’s a small suite and Hasson is always nearby. The rooms are partitioned but you can hear his voice because of the overall size of the space. 

I’m not a doctor so I completely trust Hasson isn’t running a surgical practice that would put my health or procedure at risk. With that I just don’t see the value in nitpicking him. And that’s why he and his team are transparent about how the day goes and everyone involved. Fortunately there are other options for patients who are looking for something else. 

You may have medical experience that qualifies you to question Hasson’s practice - fair enough. I don’t and all I can say is I loved the experience from beginning to end and appreciate him and his team for taking such good care of me. 

And like Nordster34, I got a world class hair transplant. That is why I went to him in the first place.

[Legend007]

I was joking with comment above. My experience there was very professional.. I actually prefer the experienced tech extracting my hair than an older gentlemen hands ..

nothing felt rushed .. n I was the only patient of dr hasson that day .. so it’s all good with me .. I slept like a baby .. I don’t need to babysit them .. 

[Jon2345]

8 hours ago, H & W Doug said:

 

Yes, I have had hair restoration procedures at Hasson and Wong. I personally would be ok with Dr. Hasson getting a photo of the finished surgery and watching it from home or office and just giving an A-Ok based on a high resolution photo.

 

Except for the false information given about 1 patient a day, and Dr Hassan barrelling through the patient's concern regarding the temples, I was mostly satisfied with Doug's explanation, but @shiba1985 and @Vann bring up good points. This is a surgical procedure with risk of complications. The Dr should definitely not be at home.

I am also curious about what Dr Hassan might be so busy with that he doesn't do the final checkup. I understand he's busy, but I would like to learn more about the process. I don't think I've ever heard of a top doctor not doing a final checkup, and I think it's good for clinics to explain anything that's unique about their practice, because even if it's a justified practice, people may not realize that. I am having a hard time coming up with what could Dr Hassan would be busy with, and there are probably others like me. The clinic deserved a chance to explain potential misconceptions.

@Kent These question should be asked and discussed, for the sake of Dr. Hassan's hard earned reputation. If these questions are not answered here, do you think others will simply not think of them? If this discussion doesn't take place, there might be people who are well suited for a procedure from Dr. Hassan, but may turn him away simply because they didn't fully understand Doug's response.

At the very least, this is very unusual behavior for a top regarded doctor. Can you think any other top regarded doctor who wouldn't do a final checkup. But unusual doens't mean bad, and people may form misconceptions because of that.

Finally, I might add that I don't believe the concerning points in this review or Doug's response are anything that Dr Wong does. In fact, in a recent review they mentioned Dr. Wong washed the patient's scabs himself. Something that could very easily been delegated to a tech.

 

[Z--]

Yeah, it's a nice response from Doug, but there's some disconcerting points. Tech involvement is fine assuming they are qualified + have clear doctor direction, which they must have at H&W given the results. That said, the 2+ patients a day AND doctor leaving home before seeing the patients final result are both hard to write off. Imagine paying 20k+ or 30k+ and you don't even get the opportunity to see the doctor post surgery, let alone being their only focus for the day. That's just disappointing practice. 

Obviously something to think about when choosing a transplant doctor, even if the results are stunning 9/10 times from H&W. Plenty of other doctors have equally great results for that price point, AND they only focus on one patient per day (with the doctor having hands on involved throughout the procedure). As a patient, I care both about the result and the how -- because if it goes wrong on those rare occasions, I'd like to know that there was nothing more to be done; not because the doctor decided his job entails a 9-5 work-day or focused on someone else. Hopefully the clinic learns from this and improves on that front.

[Jon2345]

I had my list of questions in my other message but I think the two patients a day are completely justified if they are not mega sessions. The practice has been focusing on the megasessions for a while by getting a large staff. Dr Konior said they're the best in the world for a mega session. H&W are the only place I would trust to do two sessions a day.

For example, I read a review by @RTC that Mwamba has been doing two sessions a day due to covid back log. He could be justified in doing that but I would need a lot more information for that if I were considering a procedure from him, as he has a much smaller staff.

Though I do feel that the patient absolutely has the right to know if the clinic is doing 2 sessions a day, and the patient absolutely has a right two select a clinic based on that decision. That's why it was concerning op was told 1 patient a day. Luckily it seems that he was ok with it but this should not ever happen again.

I would also like to state again that so far we only know that Dr. Hassan has been doing the more controversial points we have read about. As far as I am aware, Dr Wong is more traditional in those respects.

This is not a H&W review thread, this is a Dr Hassan review.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Jon2345

[Etownone]

Hopefully you have a great end result,   but if you don't, now that you posted here and got the spotlight on your experience,  I'm sure Dr Hasson will personally do the extra work and make sure you're happy with the end result.   

And if Melvin and anyone else is ok paying top dollar to have techs doing the majority of the work while having the Dr monitoring the surgery progress/end result by pictures while he's at his office or sipping margaritas at his house,   then cool.  

But this is information that should be provided and shared by this community.  

I've been to 3 different Dr's. 

(2) FUT - Dr Dorin NY - surgically removed the strip, put the stitches in and then did all the incisions,   the techs placed all the grafts.  Dr checked in during the process and we talked afterwards. 

(3) FUE - Dr Nader MÉXICO - performed graft extractions and all the incisions,    and the techs placed all the grafts.   Dr checked in during the process and we talk afterwards. 

(1) FUE - Dr Mwamba NJ - performed majority of all the work.   He had 1 tech that helped him at times when he would take very short breaks.  

 

 

Edited July 27, 2022 by Etownone

[stephcurry30]

1 hour ago, Etownone said:

Hopefully you have a great end result,   but if you don't, now that you posted here and got the spotlight on your experience,  I'm sure Dr Hasson will personally do the extra work and make sure you're happy with the end result.   

And if Melvin and anyone else is ok paying top dollar to have techs doing the majority of the work while having the Dr monitoring the surgery progress/end result by pictures while he's at his office or sipping margaritas at his house,   then cool.  

But this is information that should be provided and shared by this community.  

I've been to 3 different Dr's. 

(2) FUT - Dr Dorin NY - surgically removed the strip, put the stitches in and then did all the incisions,   the techs placed all the grafts.  Dr checked in during the process and we talked afterwards. 

(3) FUE - Dr Nader MÉXICO - performed graft extractions and all the incisions,    and the techs placed all the grafts.   Dr checked in during the process and we talk afterwards. 

(1) FUE - Dr Mwamba NJ - performed majority of all the work.   He had 1 tech that helped him at times when he would take very short breaks.  

 

 

Completely agree. This should bee widely known to the community for patients to better chose a doctor and clinic the are comfortable with.

Btw not to derail the thread but can you pm me some photos of your journey. Just curious what 3 HT would look like. 

[Etownone]

51 minutes ago, stephcurry30 said:

Completely agree. This should bee widely known to the community for patients to better chose a doctor and clinic the are comfortable with.

Btw not to derail the thread but can you pm me some photos of your journey. Just curious what 3 HT would look like. 

I've had 6 in total.  

I had a huge setback 2 years ago year when I stopped fin/min, thats why I needed a HT repair job with Dr Mwamba.   

I learned the hard way that, for me, these meds are for life,  and transplanted hairs can fall out too.  

[Legend007]

I’m just going to go off my own experience .. but there is a difference from techs in h&w than in other clinics .. they worked with the clinic for many years .. n they get promoted to do extractions n other stuff .. so they have to earn the right to work on ur head .. they specialist !!! That work just for h&w , they promote from within .. I respect that .. 

I had  2500 grafts to my hairline ,, n majority of it grew .. I don’t need a touch up , more density would be nice , but it’s pretty much a one n done for me.. the hairline is not see through .. the grafts were placed naturally n not straight up .. n no one knows I had a hair transplant .. so that’s my review!!

n I’m glad I didn’t go to another clinic to save money, because I’m pretty sure I would of needed to go again for a touchup… 

Op raised some concerns that the clinic can try and improve .. but overall I think ur hair is growing in nicely .. it’s not going to be perfect .. mines wasn’t either .. but In the end u be satisfied .. 

Edited July 28, 2022 by Legend007

[SD1984]

I didn't read every single detail here but I did read very carefully the doctors responses. All I can say is this:

If there is one thing I've learned in my many years now of hair transplant researching and studying, it's that the more a doctor is present during a surgery, the better off you are. It's as simple as that. I went through a phase of thinking it might not matter as long as it's well documented that there is a top of the line tech team, but I soon understood that when looking at the overall odds, nothing will ever beat a (good) doctor being heavily involved.

I'm going to be honest in that while I still feel this clinic is among the very best in the world and I personally think the result of this patient looks fine, I can say I don't like reading things like the doctor was watching or could watch via monitor, and that it's also implied how he may be home or simply not in the clinic when the surgery is still going on sometimes. Then it was written that in those cases he'd be sent high quality photos to look at and if he doesn't like them he's always "minutes away" (???) So what does that mean? If he looks at his photos at home over dinner and sees something strange he hops in his car and comes back? Those are things that I just wouldn't be able to get behind, I don't care how great the tech team is or how legendary the doctor's name is.

Edited July 28, 2022 by SD1984

[Kent]

10 hours ago, Legend007 said:

I’m just going to go off my own experience .. but there is a difference from techs in h&w than in other clinics .. they worked with the clinic for many years .. n they get promoted to do extractions n other stuff .. so they have to earn the right to work on ur head .. they specialist !!! That work just for h&w , they promote from within .. I respect that .. 

I had  2500 grafts to my hairline ,, n majority of it grew .. I don’t need a touch up , more density would be nice , but it’s pretty much a one n done for me.. the hairline is not see through .. the grafts were placed naturally n not straight up .. n no one knows I had a hair transplant .. so that’s my review!!

n I’m glad I didn’t go to another clinic to save money, because I’m pretty sure I would of needed to go again for a touchup… 

Op raised some concerns that the clinic can try and improve .. but overall I think ur hair is growing in nicely .. it’s not going to be perfect .. mines wasn’t either .. but In the end u be satisfied .. 

do you have any before/after pics?

[stephcurry30]

6 hours ago, SD1984 said:

I didn't read every single detail here but I did read very carefully the doctors responses. All I can say is this:

If there is one thing I've learned in my many years now of hair transplant researching and studying, it's that the more a doctor is present during a surgery, the better off you are. It's as simple as that. I went through a phase of thinking it might not matter as long as it's well documented that there is a top of the line tech team, but I soon understand that when looking at the overall odds, nothing will ever beat a (good) doctor being heavily involved.

I'm going to be honest in that while I still feel this clinic is among the very best in the world and I personally think the result of this patient looks fine, I can say I don't like reading things like the doctor was watching or could watch via monitor, and that it's also implied how he may be home or simply not in the clinic when the surgery is still going on sometimes. Then it was written that in those cases he'd be sent high quality photos to look at and if he doesn't like them he's always "minutes away" (???) So what does that mean? If he looks at his photos at home over dinner and sees something strange he hops in his car and comes back? Those are things that I just wouldn't be able to get behind, I don't care how great the tech team is or how legendary the doctor's name is.

x2

well put and a beautiful summary 

[shiba1985]

13 hours ago, SD1984 said:

I didn't read every single detail here but I did read very carefully the doctors responses. All I can say is this:

If there is one thing I've learned in my many years now of hair transplant researching and studying, it's that the more a doctor is present during a surgery, the better off you are. It's as simple as that. I went through a phase of thinking it might not matter as long as it's well documented that there is a top of the line tech team, but I soon understood that when looking at the overall odds, nothing will ever beat a (good) doctor being heavily involved.

I'm going to be honest in that while I still feel this clinic is among the very best in the world and I personally think the result of this patient looks fine, I can say I don't like reading things like the doctor was watching or could watch via monitor, and that it's also implied how he may be home or simply not in the clinic when the surgery is still going on sometimes. Then it was written that in those cases he'd be sent high quality photos to look at and if he doesn't like them he's always "minutes away" (???) So what does that mean? If he looks at his photos at home over dinner and sees something strange he hops in his car and comes back? Those are things that I just wouldn't be able to get behind, I don't care how great the tech team is or how legendary the doctor's name is.

Lmao. Eloquently put. I agree with you as well. Dr hasson is good at what he does and no doubt has nothing to prove to anyone let alone some random internet nobodys. 
 

I just hate when someone tries to sugar coat a purely financially/ convenience driven move as “this is what’s best for the patient.”

 

 

Edited July 29, 2022 by shiba1985

[webathon]

I personally would be very upset if I flew across the country and the doctor didn't even followup after the procedure but instead asks to see a hi-res image. What if there is a problem? Am I supposed to fly all the way back? Of course not. That seems like negligence on the doctor's part to me.

[A Fue Good Men]

Not gonna sugarcoat things in any way….I don’t care what kind of previous results a doctor had or how qualified and amazing their tech team is. If a doctor goes home in the middle of an operation, that’s totally unacceptable.

 

this is surgery, not a walk in clinic where patients can be handed over to non-physicians 

[sukh123]

2 minutes ago, 5BetaReductase said:

Not gonna sugarcoat things in any way….I don’t care what kind of previous results a doctor had or how qualified and amazing their tech team is. If a doctor goes home in the middle of an operation, that’s totally unacceptable.

 

this is surgery, not a walk in clinic where patients can be handed over to non-physicians 

What did he leave during the surgery ?

[A Fue Good Men]

3 minutes ago, sukh123 said:

What did he leave during the surgery ?

Did you read Doug’s response? The part about the doctor leaving and being sent pictures at the end of the surgery?

[sukh123]

Just now, 5BetaReductase said:

Did you read Doug’s response? The part about the doctor leaving and being sent pictures at the end of the surgery?

No, I must have missed that lol. That's really bad and lackadaisical and I go as far as to say showing contempt to the patient. If I'm paying 20k, in no way is that acceptable for the guy you paid for to go home early. 

[CarlosLaBlon]

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Edited August 4, 2022 by CarlosLaBlon
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[HappyMan2021]

13 minutes ago, CarlosLaBlon said:

***NOVEL ALERT***

Have a read if you're interested in my excellent experience at H&W / Doctor Hasson

Hello Forum, 

First time poster here. Having read through this thread I wanted to share my experience with Doctor Hasson, which was excellent from start to finish. I had 5000 grafts (I've asked for the exact breakdown which I can share) over two days in January 2022. It's just past 6 months and I am really happy with how it's going.  It was a long journey for me before I got to the clinic. I was back and for for about 7 years and finally took the plunge and booked in with Dr. H. This was after many conversations with the UK Rep, Robbie, who I met in person. 

I also want to add that I spoke to about 5 clinics in my journey, and had two appointments with Konior in Chicago. I had a schedule issue with the first appointment which I postponed, and when the second appointment rolled around I got cold feet and cancelled 2 weeks before, loosing my deposit. That was in 2017.

I finally chose Dr. Hasson because my research kept leading me back to him and the results I saw online, YouTube and on here were so good I felt he was the right Doctor to go with. 

There was a travel issue for my first scheduled booking due to Covid travel, and I was really impressed with Robbie who worked tirelessly to get me in as soon as a space opened up once travel resumed. I know form our correspondence that he worked closely with Doug and they worked it out together on my behalf, which I really appreciated. I was scheduled to have around 2500 - 3500 grafts based on photos seen by Dr. H and on meeting with Robbie. This was planned as a 1 day FUE. 

I'm not very good with the Norwood scale, but I had a classic receding hairline and high forehead. Strong crown, no issues, and a good donor supply. I started loosing my hair in my late teens with my forehead growing. I had a classic fivehead. I was on Propecia for 13 years, which stabilised it, but went off it to have kids and things got worse quickly. I went back on it about 6 months before the procedure and I am glad I did. The overall stability got a lot better. 

Once I got to the clinic and met with Dr. H, he recommended that I would need about 5000 grafts. He had to revise the game plan because my hair is quite fine and because I "have a really big cranium" which made me laugh. When reviewing my goals, Dr. H said that I wouldn't achieve them with 2500 to 3500. I was confident with his analysis and had the budget for it, so I agreed. The downside was that I would now need to do the procedure over 2 days. I had to change my travel plans and stay longer. Luckily there was a travel issue for another patient and I got to have my appointments almost back to back. Monday and Wednesday. 

On the first day, it was the usual that everyone details. The consultation and hairline design. We had a few goes at it before we agreed in it. The design was just hairline and mid-scalp. No temples as I didn't need it. Then photos at the blue wall. Head shaved and then to the table for extractions. I found the whole thing quite easy and pain management was great. 

Next Dr. H came in for the incisions. He worked exclusively on the front and hairline area. Then placement with the technicians. I think it was about 2800 that day. All went really well and I went back to the hotel with all the kit, including the neck support. Had a great nights sleep. Relaxed for a day. I only went in once for a check up and wash, which was all fine. Dr. H had a look and was happy. Then in for round 2. 

The second day went as well. Extractions followed by incisions with the Doctor, then placement by the technicians. 

I was fully aware from my discussions with the clinic that the Doctor would be doing two procedures a day and it didn't bother me at all. Doctor H was in and out of the room regularly each day. He was very attentive and professional. On each day he came in to see me before he left for the day to check the placement. I never felt like he wasn't within reach, and when I had questions I asked for the Doctor to pop back in, and he did swiftly. 

Mostly it was me laying there watching Netflix or sleeping. It was way easier than I had imagined. 

My post operation follow up was excellent. I went in after day 2 for another wash and saw the doctor to review the work and answer any questions. Then it was back to London.

I did have a lot of facial swelling, which was normal. I called the clinic a few times to discuss and was talked through it all. 

After that the wait began. Shock loss was absolutely shocking. Didn't like that part. Then the redness and pimples. The ugly duckling phase was fierce. I was in hats most of the time while waiting for hair to sprout. And of course this was a crazy emotional rollercoaster. I spoke to Robbie in the UK regularly on WhatsApp and on the phone. He was awesome at talking me through it. And I regularly emailed the clinic with photos and questions. Mostly I was contacting them with my worries as I thought it was all going horribly wrong. Which of course it wasn't.

The update is it's now been 6 months and it's great. I've got a long way to go but I am thrilled with where it's at. I have a really strong hairline and it's restored to what I had in my 20's. My deep recessions are gone and I look and feel great. Nobody has spotted it. Only my wife and one close friend know. They are both very impressed. Others just say I look very well and can't work out why. 

I'm noticing it's getting better everyday. Naturally it's not perfect yet as its only 6 months. I still have concerns about the right side, which is a little thinner than the left, but it's improving. I spoke to Robbie and the clinic about it and was reassured. I know it's normal for the growth not to be on the same schedule all over. I'm relaxed about it and expect it will catch up. 

I would reccomend Doctor Hasson to anyone and think he and his team are incredible. I know this posting has had a lot of input from you all and all I want to add is to say to the OP, I hear you. It's a crazy emotional journey, but hang in there. I know you put your head in great hands and trust the process. Judge it at the 12 month mark, as I will. And if you are still feeling it's not right, go back in and I am sure that Doctor Hasson will want to put it right for you.

Any questions, hit me up. And if someone in London wants to meet me to check out my barnet (London slang for hair), I'd be happy to meet up. 

how about not hijacking someone else's thread to post your own irrelevant review?

 

[Melvin- Admin]

Just now, HappyMan2021 said:

how about not hijacking someone else's thread to post your own irrelevant review?

 

There’s no need to be abrasive. 
 

@CarlosLeBlon 

Appreciate you posting a review. Please create your own thread. Be as detailed as you want. If you need help creating a thread let me know I’ll help you. This thread is specifically for Nordster34. 

[CarlosLaBlon]

@Melvin- ModeratorNo problem. Can you contact me directly and I can change this into a new thread. I didn't know how it worked.