Regular Member rf_ht_2019 Posted April 13, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted April 13, 2020 Hi, I am beginning to look into potential hair transplant surgeons; and from my initial research Dr. Erkan Demirsoy, Dr. Emrah Cinik and Dr. Koray Erdogan appear to get great results. Is there any other surgeons you guys would suggest I look into? (ideally within Europe) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member topher1999 Posted April 13, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted April 13, 2020 Be extremely cautious of Erdogan. He used to be legendary but his recent results have been disastrous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 13, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 13, 2020 How old are you, are you on meds? Can you provide photos? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 13, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, topher1999 said: Be extremely cautious of Erdogan. He used to be legendary but his recent results have been disastrous. He’s had some outstanding recent results like @Craig2412 I would encourage the OP to look up his name and review all of the recent results himself good or bad. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted April 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 13, 2020 If OP has any questions based on my own personal experience feel free to message me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member rf_ht_2019 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 14, 2020 22 hours ago, topher1999 said: Be extremely cautious of Erdogan. He used to be legendary but his recent results have been disastrous. Thanks for the heads up! I'll be sure to research thoroughly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member rf_ht_2019 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 14, 2020 22 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said: How old are you, are you on meds? Can you provide photos? Hi Melvin I'm 35, I started to notice my hair slowly recede around 18 years old; but I'd say over the past 5 years my hairloss has accelerated rapidly. In terms of meds.. Im not taking anything now but I took Propecia for around one year aged 25. Its hard to say whether I benefited from Propecia or not but I discontinued due to finances at that time. I'll upload some photos tomorrow evening. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member rf_ht_2019 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Craig2412 said: If OP has any questions based on my own personal experience feel free to message me. Thanks Craig! I'm sure I'll have many questions as I do my research, so I'll be sure to get in touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 14, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, rf_ht_2019 said: Hi Melvin I'm 35, I started to notice my hair slowly recede around 18 years old; but I'd say over the past 5 years my hairloss has accelerated rapidly. In terms of meds.. Im not taking anything now but I took Propecia for around one year aged 25. Its hard to say whether I benefited from Propecia or not but I discontinued due to finances at that time. I'll upload some photos tomorrow evening. Thanks! You still have some decent hair left from your avatar, I certainly recommend getting back on it, as long as you didn’t suffer any negative side effects. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member rf_ht_2019 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: You still have some decent hair left from your avatar, I certainly recommend getting back on it, as long as you didn’t suffer any negative side effects. Yeah, I think you're right - best to get back on it soon and try to preserve what is there! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member tesla007 Posted April 15, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said: You still have some decent hair left from your avatar, I certainly recommend getting back on it, as long as you didn’t suffer any negative side effects. Melvin, Can a person take finasteride without consulting a doctor first? Edited April 15, 2020 by tesla007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 15, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, tesla007 said: Melvin, Can a person take finasteride without consulting a doctor first? You can buy it online at a shady pharmacy, but who knows if you’re getting the real thing or proper dosage. In the US, we have these online pharmacies like HIMS and Getroman, you can basically get a prescription online without seeing a doctor in person, and it’s legit. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member tesla007 Posted April 16, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2020 23 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said: You can buy it online at a shady pharmacy, but who knows if you’re getting the real thing or proper dosage. In the US, we have these online pharmacies like HIMS and Getroman, you can basically get a prescription online without seeing a doctor in person, and it’s legit. My point was that if a person in his young age is experiencing hairloss then can he start finasteride without going to the doctor? Moreover many doctors in Asia, like 80-90% of them, after a transplant does not prescribe finasteride to the patients to save the existing hair. They all rely on PRP, maybe because it brings in more moolah. So, can the patients start a 5mg dose too on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 16, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, tesla007 said: My point was that if a person in his young age is experiencing hairloss then can he start finasteride without going to the doctor? Moreover many doctors in Asia, like 80-90% of them, after a transplant does not prescribe finasteride to the patients to save the existing hair. They all rely on PRP, maybe because it brings in more moolah. So, can the patients start a 5mg dose too on their own. 5mg is too high, the dosage is 1mg, if you can find legitimate finasteride you can start it, but I would say start at the lowest possible dosage and move up slowly. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member tesla007 Posted April 17, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 17, 2020 18 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said: 5mg is too high, the dosage is 1mg, if you can find legitimate finasteride you can start it, but I would say start at the lowest possible dosage and move up slowly. Thank you. What should be the Minoxidil % which one can start? Can one apply Minoxidil to the transplanted area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 17, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 17, 2020 4 hours ago, tesla007 said: Thank you. What should be the Minoxidil % which one can start? Can one apply Minoxidil to the transplanted area? Minoxidil 5% is the dosage for males, you can apply 1ml daily, they recommend twice a day, but once is fine. I use lipogaine minoxidil. I prefer liquid over foam. I feel like foam doesn’t penetrate the scalp. That’s just my personal opinion. Yes you can apply minoxidil to the transplanted area, but only after a two months, once the grafts have shed. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 @rf_ht_2019 my advice is to stay clear from ASMED as they have been getting bad results, overharvesting patients and then threatening them with lawyers. Cinik is a all inclusive hairmill in which your results will depend on tech team assigned to you on the day of your surgery. In your list Demirsoy (1.25€/graft) is the only option but if you are set on Turkey why not go to best which is HLC Ankara (2.7€graft)? Demirsoy only does surgery on 1 patient per day but does pre-made slits/holes and. has technicians do the implantation. HLC has doctors doing only 1 patient per day with a higher level surgery stick&place in which each slit is done and immediately after the graft is implanted. It’s the same technique used by Dr. Konior. If you have the budget for it then go to HLC. 1 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Portugal25 said: @rf_ht_2019 my advice is to stay clear from ASMED as they have been getting bad results, overharvesting patients and then threatening them with lawyers. Cinik is a all inclusive hairmill in which your results will depend on tech team assigned to you on the day of your surgery. In your list Demirsoy (1.25€/graft) is the only option but if you are set on Turkey why not go to best which is HLC Ankara (2.7€graft)? Demirsoy only does surgery on 1 patient per day but does pre-made slits/holes and. has technicians do the implantation. HLC has doctors doing only 1 patient per day with a higher level surgery stick&place in which each slit is done and immediately after the graft is implanted. It’s the same technique used by Dr. Konior. If you have the budget for it then go to HLC Edited April 19, 2020 by Craig2412 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 @Craig2412 please read my post as I didn’t write ASMED is a hairmill but rather a high price clinic getting bad results and threatening patients with lawyers. My statement can be verified on @dust78 thread regarding his experience at ASMED. 1 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) On 4/19/2020 at 12:45 PM, Portugal25 said: @Craig2412 please read my post as I didn’t write ASMED is a hairmill but rather a high price clinic getting bad results and threatening patients with lawyers. My statement can be verified on @dust78 thread regarding his experience at ASMED. What about all the amazing results they’re still producing? @nb98 just within the past couple of minutes has posted an awesome update. The clinic done wonders with my own hair too (attached) Yes I would totally agree there has been a few results which haven’t been great but there’s still a very good chance you would get a good to great result going to Asmed if someone is considering Turkey for a hair transplant. Edited April 22, 2020 by Craig2412 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sijac09 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 Out of those, I would say Demirsoy. 3 months post op with Demirsoy and looking forward to the results. Anyone will tell you who’s been that they do provide an excellent service 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) @Craig2412 I’m glad you are one of the lucky ones from ASMED and I see you are aware that today ASMED is no better than any other Turkish hairmill. You can check below what recent ASMED patients are saying: @munich experience and quote: “Now they operate 8 patients per day. If you are lucky you get the good techs. Dr. Koray just draws the hairline and makes the cuts. They promise a growth rate of more than 90% but they can't keep this promise anymore as you could see in many cases here in this forum. “ @dust78 experience and quote: “unacceptable is the attitude they are having with me. I sent the photos to show the conditions of my donor. The doctor did not even deign to answer me personally, as usual he delegated his consultant who with a message via whatsapp told me that it was all right and that it was all normal. Furthermore, as he had done previously, at the slightest hint of dissent he immediately made me understand that if I didn't like it I had to see it with their lawyer! “ @miko experience: Based in the threads above from real patients experiences, I’m downgrading the tech run ASMED to a hairmill (just like Cinik) and will be referring to them as such in the future. I don’t understand how people still recommend this unethical high priced hairmill. @rf_ht_2019 if you are dead set on traveling to the world capital of botched hair transplant surgeries that is Turkey but still manage to achieve great results then I advise you to book with the best in the country, right now that’s HLC Ankara. Edited April 19, 2020 by Portugal25 1 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @Craig2412 I’m glad you are one of the lucky ones from ASMED and I see you are aware that today ASMED is no better than any other Turkish hairmill. You can check below what recent ASMED patients are saying: @munich experience and quote: “Now they operate 8 patients per day. If you are lucky you get the good techs. Dr. Koray just draws the hairline and makes the cuts. They promise a growth rate of more than 90% but they can't keep this promise anymore as you could see in many cases here in this forum. “ @dust78 experience and quote: “unacceptable is the attitude they are having with me. I sent the photos to show the conditions of my donor. The doctor did not even deign to answer me personally, as usual he delegated his consultant who with a message via whatsapp told me that it was all right and that it was all normal. Furthermore, as he had done previously, at the slightest hint of dissent he immediately made me understand that if I didn't like it I had to see it with their lawyer! “ @miko experience: And lastly a thread with people stating the obviou I don’t understand how people still recommend this unethical high priced hairmill (based in the threads above I’m downgrading the tech run ASMED to a hairmill and will be referring to them as such in the future). @rf_ht_2019 if you want to go to Turkey and achieve great results I advise you to book with HLC. No way are they a high priced hairmill. I’ve seen the negative posts and see them while doing my own research. Every clinic has bad results. I think your find on this forum alone there are lots of ‘lucky’ patients like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Craig2412 said: No way are they a high priced hairmill. I’ve seen the negative posts and see them while doing my own research. Every clinic has bad results. I think your find on this forum alone there are lots of ‘lucky’ patients like me. @Craig2412 please read the threads above as you will find that everyone is stating that recently it’s gone downhill as they now have techs operating 8 patients per day (hairmill) and Dr. Erdogan intervention is little to none. Every clinic has bad results and it’s the way they handle patients with bad results that makes them great clinics or unethical hairmills like ASMED that told @dust78 to speak with their lawyers after he showed he was overharvested. Sadly ASMED went from good to a very high priced hairmill. Edited April 19, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted April 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Portugal25 said: @Craig2412 please read the threads above as you will find that everyone is stating that recently it’s gone downhill as they are now operating 8 patients per day (hairmill) and Dr. Erdogan intervention is little to none. Every clinic has bad results and it’s the way they handle patients with bad results that makes them great clinics or unethical hairmills like ASMED that told @dust78 to speak with their lawyers after he showed he was overharvested. Sadly ASMED went from good to a very high priced hairmill. I’ve seen the majority of the good and bad results. I think you’re being very harsh and unfair here, and the OP on this thread should still consider Asmed. Sadly I went to this downhill high priced hairmill and ended up like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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