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Hi everyone, I’ve been a long time reader of this site while I’ve been on my own hairloss journey, and similar to many other people, I’ve decided to share my story and details of my procedure here to help anyone else who may be planning a similar path and would like to see my experience. The background I’m now 33, and I initially realised I was thinning around 10 years ago. My older brother thinned around a similar time, my Grandad was bald though my Dad (in his 60's) still has thin hair coverage. Initially it was just on the crown of my head before it thinned on my temples and I tried a number of solutions before realising I needed to take Finasteride and to look into Regaine / Rogaine products. I joined the hair restoration programme at Boots here in the UK, and paid the equivalent of £1 a day for Propecia. I’m very fortunate in that I don’t think I have had any side effects at all! I tried Regaine, but after a year I really didn’t notice any difference so I stopped it. About two years ago, when I moved to Barcelona, I started taking a generic form of Finasteride which is available over the counter in Spain. It’s in 5mg pills which I cut into four segments and I take one a day, at a cost of about 10 Euros for about 4 months’ worth (far more cost effective…). I also began shaving my head short (not skinhead, but shortly cropped) – and I had a micropigmentation procedure (basically a tattoo on my head) that certainly helps my head look a darker shade, but didn’t really solve the hairloss issue. While I feel happy that the finasteride has slowed down the hair loss and the pigmentation procedure helped disguise my situation, I’ve never been happy with the crown / corners of my hair and so I’ve worn either Toppik or Mane Hair Thickening Spray (dark brown) for a while which I feel covers up my hair loss really well. However, as soon as I lean against a white wall or sleep in a bed that doesn’t have dark bedsheets, I leave behind a black mess and I always knew I’d go down the hair transplant route one day. Plus I was recently with a dude who ran his hand through my hair then saw the black mess on his hand and was like ‘what’s this?’. Let’s just say I’d prefer not to deal with that kind of embarrassing situation again. Deciding on the hair transplant An ex of mine told me he’d gone to Este Grande in Istanbul for his transplant but it seemed a little too cheap to be true. He’s only just had his procedure and I think it looks great, but it’s too soon to tell and I didn’t want to choose price over quality reviews. Another ex had gone with DHI Global in Greece (I seem to have dated a lot of people with hair loss issues huh?), though I’d read some reviews of DHI that didn’t make me feel confident. I used these forums and found out about Dr. Erkan Demirsoy / Armamed and took some time looking through his work and reading through forum posts from people who’d chosen him, and I was sold. As I don’t need to create a new hairline (just lots of focus on the crown and temples) then I feel confident that for his price, it would be the best for me. He’s quoted me the standard 3500 – 4000 hairs, for 1.25 Euro a graft. I booked, and fortunately he had space in about 6 weeks’ time from when I booked. Today I'm flying from London (where I currently live) into Istanbul and my procedure is tomorrow on April 17th. I fly back to the UK on the 19th where I’ll spend a week with my family recovering and stuffing my swollen face with Easter Eggs. I’ve included some pictures here which show my hair before the MSP procedure and after the MSP procedure, and my current situation where I’ve grown my hair a bit which will help Dr D see the whole hair picture, which isn’t so easy to see due to the MSP procedure I had. You may notice my hairline isn’t all that straight (ironically) but that doesn’t really bother me – I’m happy with where my hairline is and would only want the temples filled in. I usually use Mane HT spray as I think it provides a really good cover up solution and some of you reading this may find it’s a better, temporary solution while you consider the transplant path. Final words I’m really looking forward to the procedure and will do everything I can to get the best yield. I’m a non-drinker or smoker, and I'll do my best to follow all the professional advice I can to get a good result. I play sport a lot – mainly cycling, lots of rowing, weightlifting and I walk everywhere so I’ll be keen to get back into that afterwards. My biggest fear in all this is being 6’5” (195cm) and the fact I hit my head everywhere I go….the metro…doorframes…lampshades…low hanging branches. Finally, something I’ve learnt from what I’ve read is to manage my expectations. I’m not expecting that I’ll come out of this (after a year) with a full head of hair. I just want MORE hair in the places that are thinning, and to not feel like I’m 53 when I’m 33 and to not leave a dark brown trail mark in white areas. All future posts will be shorter but I wanted to give you the background to my journey. The following post will show the pictures on surgery day and please feel free to ask me anything or comment as I’d love to share my experience with you all.
Intro to pre-op situation I’m 26 old male that has a hair loss problem since I was 20 years old. My hair loss is genetic. My male part of the family has it. Usually we bald from the temples and to be more descriptive we are 3A on the Norwood scale. This begun to be a problem for me in the last couple of years. All around my head I have had a thick set of hair but in front there was very little of it. So this motivated me to seek help/advice online. After finding this forum I decided to go through all possible solutions offered here. But anyways after some time of reading I was drawn to FUE as a more permanent and natural solution, so I started browsing different doctors and seeing different results. So this is a big thank you to all members who stepped forward and shared their results and experiences with us. I concluded very fast that right now Turkey is a hot spot for FUE procedures so I advanced to the next stage to find my doctor. After intensive reading and searching I came across 3 FUE doctors that are mostly mentioned here. All 3 have great results BUT I decided to go with Dr. Erkan Demirsoy. My decision was motivated by an excellent result that the doctor had with one German patient that had similar hair loss to mine and a similar graft count. So I decided to get in touch with Dr. Demirsoys office. I sent email and the very next day I got a response from Dr. Demirsoys assistant Muzaffer. Here I have to mention that you can write email to the official email address left on the web site. The email is checked every day and you will get a very fast answer. That happened to me. I think already the next day I got message from Muzaffer. So I will try to sum up our email conversation into couple of lines. So first off we started with some general information about the cost of the procedure. Than I send pictures from my current status. After that I got email and this time the doctor was interested in my family hair loss profile, so we went in deep with that. From here I was able to conclude how interested the doctor is in his patients. He will always ask you about your family profile and explain if what you are asking is realistic, but later on that. I had a lot of questions for Muzaffer and he managed to answer all of them which was very affirming that Muzaffer and Dr. Demirsoy are very professional and carrying persons. So after exchanging bunch of email letters, and seeing the results from Dr. Demirsoy I was convinced that there is no better doctor that can take care of my hair loss situation. Later as you will see, I was right. Muzaffer took care of my transportation from bus station, hotel and hospital. A deposit of 500 EUR was payed through Western Union so that I can reserve the date for the procedure. So let’s sum up the financial part up until here: 50 EUR return bus ticket, 140 EUR transportation (bus station, hotel, hospital… - you can take care of the transportation yourself if you want, I chose to go with Muzaffers offer and it was more than a good offer) 500 EUR Deposit for date reservation Day 1 (Sunday) I arrived at the bus station in Istanbul. My bus was 1.5 hours late but still I kept in communication with Muzaffer through SMS messages and as agreed the driver was waiting me on the bus station. I wanted to come a day early so that I can see the city before the procedure, and take some rest from the road. Istanbul is one of the most beautiful cities out there, so take your time and see everything there is to be seen in this magnificent city - before the procedure. I have to write at least a line about the hotel I was staying in, so that you don’t make any mistakes that I made. The hotel was great but it was far away from the doctors office. Anyways the only thing that bothered me is that in my hotel (that I booked via booking.com) did not have any FUE patients. So that made me a little uncomfortable around the people there. So please do ask Muzaffer or any other official person from Armamed to recommend a FUE friendly hotel. Do not book like I did without doing the research. Also it would have been nice to have a FUE friend like me there, but I didn’t had that so please do a research before booking. Day 2 (Monday – day of procedure) The day started very early at around 6:15 Istanbul time. I finally get to meet Muzaffer in person. He was standing in front of my hotel waiting for me to come down. There is no way to describe Muzaffer in one paragraph or even couple of pages of this review. This guy was the most awesome, nice, professional, kind, knowledgeable person that loves his job. He speaks Turkish, German and English fluently so you will have no problem with communication. He took care of everything. So this is a very big thank you to Muzaffer. We drove to the hospital and that is where I had the pleasure to meet Dr. Demirsoy. While waiting I had lunch and a very informative talk with Muzaffer. The doctor came, we talked a little bit and me and Muzaffer went into the office to get me ready for the procedure. Before everything started, Muzaffer showed additional images form their patients (that were not published online), talked a little bit more, and I had to sign the agreement (pretty usual stuff, that you will sign before any medical procedure) which Im not going to explain here-if you are interested you can read it yourself. After that the doctor came and we started to talk about graft count, density, and most importantly the new hair line. So I have seen results from Dr. Demirsoy and I just left all up to him. He asked me about the hair line, but I had 100% confidence in this doctor that I left him to design and draw it. It was perfect, I accepted it immediately, and we were good to go. The staff there was also awesome. I changed my clothes (please wear something comfortable because you will be laying there for 6-7 hours – give or take depending on the graft count). After changing, the nurses shaved my head and everything was ready. The first step is the extraction process from donor area. This step is done by Dr. Demirsoy himself. Now I have to write a line or two about the anesthetic. It wasn’t painful. Maybe the first one, but not the others. After the anesthetic kicked in the doctor started the extraction. What can I say, he was very careful, making sure that he used the right angle and what not. He would usually do couple of punches and if needed recalculated parameters so that he don’t hurt any graft and extract the right grafts perfectly. It was amazing. It was done very professional with a lot of care. I didn’t feel anything, in fact I was even able to sleep . The extraction of the grafts took couple of hours. After that was done we made a little break. I was offered to eat and the doctor and the team did the same also. In this situation I would suggest to try something traditional. After 30 minutes of break, we continued. I was extracted 2708 grafts. Most of them were having 2, 3 hair strands. We agreed that this was a good number. The second step is making holes for the grafts to be implanted. Again Dr. Demirsoy did the holes. Again he was working very carefully – meaning that he was thinking the angle, position and the depth of the graft. This step took around 1.5 hours. In order to not feel anything anesthetics were injected in my recipient area. The first one hurt a little. After the holes were made it was time to implant the new grafts. This procedure was done by the trained nurses. When I asked about them, the doctor and Muzaffer told me that they had around 15 years of experience in this area, so I was very comfortable. One nurse did my left side and the other did the right side. Since the holes were already made all they did is just put in the grafts. I have to say that I was very satisfied how Dr. Demirsoy placed the holes. It looked very natural. This step took more than 2 hours. While working I started feeling some pain, so additional dosage of anesthetics were injected. After that the nurses continued to work without any problem. They were very nice and friendly. They don’t speak English but we were able to communicate through Muzaffer, who was present throughout the whole procedure. After they finished the work I was able to get up and see the current result. I had a swelling but that was normal and expected. So here are the rules about the swelling: You will wear a bandage when you leave the hospital the first day. On the second you will be given bandage like accessory to wear under the swelling areas. YOU HAVE to wear it in the next 2-3 days, otherwise your swelling will come down to your face and eyes and it will be very unpleasant. After the informative talk I was ready to go in my hotel. Oh and I have to say that you will pay for the transportation and operation on this day (day of the procedure). If you pay cash you will pay the amount of implanted grafts. If you pay with credit card you will have to pay tax also (it was around 20% or 28% I don’t remember). So I was transported back to my hotel by Muzaffer. Day 3 (first day after procedure – washing day) OK so the next day you are picked again from the hotel. This is the day when the bandage comes off and the first wash is performed by Dr. Demirsoys staff. This is a MUST. You cannot leave the city before the first wash. After the first wash you will be able to go home. Again we went to the hospital and the bandage came off. The nurse washed my hair, and we talked a little bit about the outcome. I have to say that I didn’t feel any pain the previous day when I was in the hotel, but just in case you will be given antibiotics and pain killers that you can use in case you feel some pain. Well I didn’t and I used only the antibiotics. After the hair wash you are good to go home. But before that the doctor took some pictures and burned them to CD. We talked for a while and he did a close inspection of the donor and recipient area. There is one thing that I have to mention that happen to me after the first day. I got sick to my stomach from the antibiotics. I have to say that this a common side effect. So I felt sick 10 minutes after I took the antibiotics. I told this to the doctor and instead of antibiotics he gave me antiseptic cream and antibiotic cream to put on my recipient area, which worked very well. Day 4 (first day after the hair wash) So after the hair wash you are able to go home. The doctor will give you information about how to treat the donor and recipient area. So from now on you have to moisturize and wash with special shampoo that you will receive from the doctor’s office. Any questions that you might have can be answered by his assistant Muzaffer. Even though Muzaffer is not included into the procedure (he is Dr. Demirsoys assistant, that does everything but the procedure) he has amazing knowledge about HT procedures. So we are talking about a person who knows his job, and loves his job very much. It is always a pleasure to talk to Muzaffer, since it felt like talking to a close friend most of the time. On this day I tried to wash my hair for the very first time. As per usual I’m no good in situations like this. I was very much afraid that I did something wrong. So I messaged Muzzafer about my situation and he agreed once again to help me. This is when I decided to stay in Istanbul until I’m sure that the grafts are secured to my head. Muzaffer and the doctor told me right away that I can stay in Istanbul and they will help me with my everyday hair wash. It was awesome. So I decided to stay. So from day 4 to day 8 I was in the hospital every day (except for Sunday) where the hair wash was performed. In a meanwhile I got to know better Muzaffer and Dr. Demirsoy. They are amazing people to be around. Very genuine, honest and just good people who cares about their patients very much. You will feel like you are a VIP person. I’ve been all over Europe and I have never had a treatment like this. I even got the chance to meet 2 of the doctors good friends. They told me a lot about him, everything nice, how good he is at what he is doing. While waiting I also had the chance to meet some new clients who were in Armamed for evaluation and consultation with the doctor. Day 8 (scab removing) The basic rule is that after 7 days hairs are firmly secured. Another rule is that if you see a bleeding from some grafts chances are you have pulled them out, if not there is no reason to panic. So up until day 7 you have to take a good care for the grafts. So on day 9 I was able to remove it. Again the instructions says that after day 6-7 you will moisturize the recipient area on every 2-3 hours. This makes the scabs soft and ready to be removed. So on day 8 the nurse managed to take off my scabs. For the first time I can see how my head and hair looked like without scabs and dark places. The redness was present but because of my skin tone, it wasn’t very visible. This is the last day that I saw Muzaffer and Dr. Demirsoy. After that we said our goodbyes and promised to stay in touch. I cannot stress enough how thankful I am to those people. I am glad I chose Armamed and Dr. Demirsoy to perform the procedure. Now for all those who want to contact me, please do that. I will be checking all my messages and posts on this thread. I will do anything in my power to help you guys who seek advice on this topic. I will promote Dr. Demirsoy work everywhere because he genualy deserves it. Also this is a request to some of the admins here to try and check this doctor's offices and work to make sure he is the best that Turkey can offer. So this is a shout out to the admins here to think about recognizing and promote Dr. Demirsoys work here. Thank You all. P.S I will attache images from pre-op and post-op in next post.
As I promised, a review about procedure of Dr. Erkan Demirsoy and his great team in Istanbul, Turkey. I'll get to the point right away. 30 years old male, I am having seborrheic dermatitis for at least 7 years now from a lot of stress. Since then, my hair started to shed and probably with combination of genetic hair loss from my mother side grandfather who was completely bald. In last two years it started to shed faster in front and a bit of top - first third of the scalp. Remaining part of scalp is, interesting, same for several years which is good. I always had temple (sides) and never had a straight hairline. My goal was or is to revive this third of the scalp as is was several years ago - not to be like when I was 14 'cause that's chasing ghosts and is totally unrealistic from my point of view. Everything was arranged over Clemens Weber, Dr. Erkan's man for foreign citizens. I 'tortured' Clemens with many emails and after all I calculated that we changed over 25 emails We made a date for procedure, I have sent him 500EUR deposit which is clinic policy for securing themselves if someone suddenly does not show off. I arrived to Istanbul one day earlier. Clemens arranged drier from airport Ataturk which is on European side to hotel on the Asian side of Istanbul. Next day Dr. assistant came to pick me up at 15:15h, extremely nice man, well spoken English, behavior natural and soft personality, explaining me a lot while driving to the clinic. I immediately saw that this is all well organized without doubt of 'massive cattle production on a track' which results in poor result and communication. Clinic is settled in a luxury building where everything is at it's place - from material finish of underground parking to the aesthetics of the garden. As soon as from entering the door of the clinic, you can't enter more than 6 feet (1.8m) and everybody has to put protective wear for shoes to minimize the contamination of the space. That bought me immediately. Finally I saw in vivo that someone thinks about that and not just 'money money money'. Two doctors girl assistants were welcoming me, offering something to drink while waiting in a big 'receive' room. They gave me few papers to read carefully and sign, in short, that there is always possibility of risk for new hair not to grow in wanted amount, risking of small scars and other small aesthetic complications that can be caused as a result afterwards. (That is normal to be given by every clinic since I have signed once when doing a nose-job even that I take risk of possible death because of total anesthetics.) When signed, I got received at the doctors office. Dr. was very welcoming and smiley without fake smile but also serious when explaining things about procedure. His assistant was continuously with me translating everything. I think that everybody expected same stories how a patient wants a thick, well natural density over half-empty scalp filled more with thinned hair... so he was a bit reserved at start waiting for my wishes. My wishes were simple - don't need mega blasting density with straight hairline but density as I have now in back portion of the scalp since my hair is wavy and even 30-40% of my donor density would be more than enough. Simply explained - I just wanted a small refill first third of the scalp, restore my previous hairline and refill a bit central portion of the scalp a.k.a. top to secure of ongoing losing hair for a little while and no Hollywood style since that would be totally unnatural change for me. Two of them immediately stopped talking for a few seconds, smiled and said 'hmmm, usually people want opposite'. Yes, but I want to save the grafts for the future hair loss since it's not going to be any thicker. And risk of my sebborheic condition is also included a lot so it would be wise to put grafts in totally bald areas because who knows how will they receipt after and in what density. Let's call this a experiment with a big possibility to achieve at least 70% of satisfaction. Doctor said my wishes were very much realistic and it's good for me to accept that. Then he started to draw frontal hairline with my suggestions to follow my current few hairs that remained and not to go out more than 0.5 - 1cm out of that area. He said that my temples will we revealed and yes, I wanted them, they suit me and my personality for many years now My hairline is a bit more edgy than average and always had a sharp end on my forehead even younger. Never had a nice slight curved hairline. We managed to get the linings of working zone, went to procedure room, shaved and prepared me. We agreed to 3000 grafts. Around 19:45h first shots of anesthesia came to donor zone. I read many times that people were in pain because of that. To be honest, this was the best part. This was not pain but just a not ordinary feeling. After 15 minutes, doctor came, started extracting grafts. One thing I didn't know was that grafts are not extracting immediately after cutting but waiting to finish a good portion, then his to girl technicians came and started to extract grafts. First was done one side of donor area and then other. I noticed that doctor was doing aprox. 4-6 punches with a motor (0.8mm) and stop, than again punches, which is good - immediate planning and working. My problem was that I have very soft skin and he had to tighten my skin while working to extract grafts properly. People with harder skin will do better. Sound of motor extractor is bit strange since you hear it how it's chewing your skin Again, not everyday feeling but no fear, that's what it must be done. Some anesthetic had to be inserted again since it's amazing that just one millimeter of skin is insensitive and just a millimeter beside is sensitive. I noticed how anesthetics affects me - I started to tremble and shiver fee seconds after I got shots. At first, I thought "damn, I am not scared, whats wrong with me?" and they told me that shots contain a small dosage of adrenaline so I got euphoric a bit not scared After extracting girl technicians started with separating grafts. I got a small notice that hair in my donor area are OK but some are containing grafts where one hair is OK and second is affected with thinning. That was not a good news but also it was since I now know that and will keep to prevent and slow further thinning with supplements. Pause for dinner - they asked me what should they order for me, said something traditional and guy with food came very fast. Food was amazing! After dinner, doctor started to make small holes for future grafts while technicians were still playing with grafts. I saw that he was very careful with choosing the right angle of the hole so the new hair will grow with natural look. Many surgeons at this point are making big mistakes but not Dr. Demirsoy. He does that very carefully with a zig-zag pattern and not straight one which is VERY important to get good look of random placed hair and not robotic look. Dr. Demirsoy thinks about it all! He is not just an average good doctor who does his job by standard everyday pattern, he does it with passion where every move is calculated. After incisions the graft implanting started - new girl technician came and were two of them from each side of the head. It started exactly at midnight and lasted three long hours. While inserting grafts, we all had a good time with small conversations about many topics and all was sincere and honest without standard killing time questions. So everything was done in about 03:15h and one thing I noticed is that everybody were more awake in this late hours than at the beginning . Dr. Erkan Demirsoy immediately photographed me and burned photos to a CD, he insisted to burn them right away even if I didn't need them that day. He once again proved himself to be more than a professional because he likes job done right away, nothing should wait for tomorrow! He said he could do another session like this, he was not tired at all His good assistant drove me back to hotel where I 'spent a night on needles' afraid not to touch it, sleep accidentally on recipient area and destroy transplanted grafts. My forehead got swollen from anestetics so I looked like an alien That is normal and it has to be compromised. That day I didn't geot out from the hotel, just chilling, watching episodes over laptop and resting. Next day his assistant once again come to pick me up for first washing of scalp and explaining me aftercare procedure with special shampoos, cremes, lotions and supplements. They asked me if I have bring a cap with me and I told them that I didn't since I understood that I cannot wear hat because implanted grafts can be easily get out if stuck to a hat when taking it off. His assistant immediately went out and brought me a Kappa baseball cap and a Nike tennis band. I asked him how much do I owe him and he said it was on doctors! I just couldn't take that offer, that was too much for my lack of attention for not bringing a cap (even If I could have bought one on Turkish market for cheap money...). They insisted and said not to worry. I was amazed... and a bit shamed since I didn't deserve that kind of attention. They gave me cremes, lotions, medicaments, anti-histamine pills and shampoo all for free which is a practice in most clinics but not all! Many of them charge even that! When I was paying to doctor, he said that we agreed to 3000 grafts (EUR) and he has done 3138 grafts so these extra grafts were not charged and he also said I have a discount of 100EUR because of our common interest in photography. WOW, that was enough!! I was stunned! I am aware I will need one or even more procedure in next 10-15 years, who knows, it all depends of genetics. It's a shame since I am not even a smoker, nor drinker, I am a more than a recreational sportsman, don't eat meet for 5 years (yeah, it's not B12 deficiency, I started losing hair way before started not eating meat) and then, seeing many people who don't care about themselves they have thick hair - I ask myself, is this fair? I flew away from Istanbul with amazing experience. Nobody will bother you bcause of cap, I saw few guys like me, customs are used to this, just asking to lift the cap a bit to see and it's all good. First, It's a huuuge city, no city in Europe is big as that. If Paris is big, this one is like 3 Paris or more, 16 million people. People are more than polite, everything is in order, clean streets, neat architecture, clean air, beautiful sea no aggressive individuals like in many European or world cities, no ghettos. Of course keep your things beside you and you'll have positive experience! My total expenses: Airplane ticket - 185EUR Turkish airlines Deposit 500EUR + 40 taxes over Western Union = 540EUR Hotel 3 nights, 4 days - breakfast and WiFi (6Mbs) - 105EUR Driving taxes - 140EUR Some additional expenses during 4 days and food around 50EUR HT procedure of 3138 grafts with discount - 2900EU (-500EUR deposit). Total 3420EUR aprox. PHOTOS: Just before procedure Just after procedure Day after procedure - I like the randomness of taken grafts! Head was swollen.
Hi everyone, Long time lurker here and i would like to share my recent experience with you. I'll start with a bit of background, I was about 18/19 when I had that horrible feeling which I guess you all know so well, the dreaded thought of losing my hair. After a relationship break up I decided to do something about it so at 24yo I had my first HT. This is 12 years ago now, I am the big 40 in a few days so let me just enjoy the next few days by saying I am a 39 yo guy... Anyway, I was so naive back then, very badly advised and chose the wrong clinic, but to be honest even 12 years ago the quality of hair restoration techniques and surgeons isn't what it is today. The procedure was just a few hundred grafts to plump up the hairline. It looked ok at the time, mingled in with my native hair but I had bad sides to Fin and had to come off after a few months so I very quickly realized i would be going back for more work. My 2nd HT was 2 years later to fill in a strip of hairloss in behind my 1st 1/3 of scalp, a little natural tuft remained front centre and it was becoming isolated. Again not prepared to go on Fin and was becoming very down in myself knowing id be chasing this round my head. I've worn caps and hats whenever I can for the the last 8 or 9 years now. Needless to say these procedures were FUT and I was left which the horrible scars which comes with it, it was the scars just as much as the dodgy looking hair on top I was more conscious of, I well and truly have my FUT club membership card to show off lol ! It was probably 2 or 3 years ago I stumbled onto this wonderful community and was quickly gathering information on finding a solution, reading just about every thread by every patient on every clinic. I looked at several clinics In India, Belgium, Turkey, Spain and many more. But after careful consideration I decided to go with Dr. Erkan Demirsoy at Armamed Clinic in Istanbul. Yes finance is a factor, but so were results I could have gone cheaper than him if it was about finance but i really liked what I saw from him and the fact he only sees one patient a day and is very hands on was also a big factor. I booked through Health Travels Dr. D's representative Mr Clemens Weber and after I sent my pics off, I was contacted by Clemens who had talked to the doc, he said he could extract about 3000-3500 from my donor. As you can see from the thread heading I had 2910 grafts in the end I cant say I'm disappointed because I was being a little greedy anyway as I know people say around 2500 is about the max you should do in 1 FUE session but its along way to go and I do need as many as I can get lol. Dr D said that this was because my donor isnt as strong as my photos suggested so we would only go as far as 3000 which I thought was highly ethical as he could have took 3500 and just took more money but he decided this would best so I totally agreed. On that note I would like to say that my expectations are totally realistic and I realize I will never have a full head of hair, I do remember joking to the doctor and Muzzafer( who is the Doctors right hand man he takes care of everything and is an absolute top bloke) that I dont plan on joining any rock bands and I just wanted to tie together what I have left on top and maybe a sprinkle towards the back with a second pass planned for next year this would be plenty for now. Also I explained id rather have a lighter sprinkle over a bigger area as I didnt want a hardline hair then scalp going on just a nice 'feathered in' look so the further he goes back toward the crown to space the grafts out a little and he agreed this will give a better look in once grown in and before the next pass. So after a long day, I think it went on for about 2 hrs longer about 9 hrs in all as the doc said I had thick skin on my scalp and the grafts were popping out slightly when planting next to them. The two nurses were also amazing their tireless and tedious work didnt go unnoticed they were always asking if I was ok and if i needed some more anesthesia. Dr. D does all the extractions and makes the recipient sites the nurses just plant the grafts. Muzzafer then took me back to my hotel where I didnt get much sleep but I rested well and felt no pain whatsoever. I returned the next day for hairwash all after care products and instructions painkillers anti-inflamatory pills etc..Muzzafer took some pics and burned them to cd for me too. Luckily enough for me this is when I met Clemens Weber who had booked all the hotels transfers for me we had previously exchanged close to 50 emails so I was really glad to thank him in person, after the hairwash we had lunch and chatted for a while about the HT industry for quite some time, it was good to talk to him a very knowledgeable man, although he didnt let me pay for lunch which I tried, insisted infact, but Clemens would have none of it, I thanked him very much, he's a real gent. We stayed in touch over the next few days checking in on me. I was in Istanbul for 10 days in all so had a week to recover before I traveled back to the UK. I could go on filling in details but I feel like I'm waffling now over stories you've heard a million times before lol ! but If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and i will do my best to answer them about my experience. All in all, a truely seamless operation, from start to finish from my very 1st email months ago, to Clemens texting me this morning to make sure I'd arrived home ok !! I cant thank Clemens Weber, Muzzafer, Dr Demirsoy and his two nurses enough they were all superb Ive attached my pre op pics which were originally sent to the doctor and some from immediately post op. I've taken quite a few and am 10 days post op today so I will keep you updated.... Many Thanks for your time...