Donor scar options

[Mickey85]

.but in general we say that 30 years is a good age to think about strip or FUE but everybody under 30 is in general a good candidate for an FUE.”[/i][/size][/font]

 

 

What exactly do you think that implies? It means that when someone is 30 that strip or FUE can be considered while anyone under 30 is more suitable for FUE.

 

Here is a more detailed answer regarding Feriduni's stance, taken from his rep Daphne:

 

 

Feriduni also reiterated this to me personally during our Skype consult. He is not a fan of performing strip to young patients.

 

Taken from Feriduni's website:

Patients older than 30 - 35 are also deemed as being more suited, as the occurrence of the so-called stretch-back effect is less pronounced.

 

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni.com/en/hair-transplant/fut/in-general.html

[HTInternational]

[quote=1978matt;

 

You're right and I'm not going to argue anymore. It makes no difference anyway provided readers go to a few decent HTN doctors and get a consensus of opinions. I just worry about people who go to those dodgy clinics like HTI... what's the name of their doctor again?!

 

 

My attention has been brought to this post and I would like to respond on the company's behalf as follows:

 

Health Travel International has at no time treated, corresponded or liaised with 1978Matt - his statement above referring to the company as a 'dodgy clinic' is therefore considered liable in nature as Matt1978 has not had the opportunity to form his own opinion on the company, as, as stated above, he has had no contact or experience with the company, or to my knowledge, any of its patient advocates.

 

Health Travel International is a reputable company which takes patient care and quality standards extremely seriously. Being UK based, the company brings UK/European professionalism and standards to Turkey - this is what sets us apart from other HT clinics in Turkey.

 

From a quick Google search - there are 4 HT companies (in the UK), all from page 1 of the search who do not advertise their surgeons. Some are very well known clinics, one of which even advertises franchising opportunities........I am not quite sure what to make of that.

 

I will name the companies rather than post links which will likely be removed by moderators:

 

- UK Hair transplant Clinics

 

- HS Hair Clinic

 

- Advanced Hair

 

- The Glasgow Hair Clinic

 

It is fair to say that the vast majority of people would not consider the above to be 'dodgy clinics' purely because they choose not to advertise their surgeons - it seems this 'dodgy' stigma is not attracted in their case because they are not based abroad.

A good proportion of our patients have had unsatisfactory treatment in the UK and therefore look to be treated abroad. I stress again, we are a UK based company.

 

I cannot speak for the above named clinics, but HTI makes a conscious decision not to openly display our surgeons. For the sake of clarity, we employ several HT specialist surgeons - not just one. Our surgeons are specialists - hard working, highly experienced surgeons who are focused on working hard on their day jobs which is achieving great results for our patients - NOT on boosting their profile across the globe. Our surgeons work for our company only - they are not affiliated with several agencies who bring them patients, as is the case with many well known surgeons.

 

Unlike some of our counterparts, we do not operate as a hair factory, relying on technicians only to perform procedures with surgeons only drawing hairlines etc. Our procedures are surgeon led - in some cases, despite the cost, the company often uses more than one surgeon during a procedure where this is considered particularly beneficial. Our priority is achieving the best results possible for each patient, providing the highest level of patient care and expertise with UK professionalism.

When an enquiry comes to us from a UK patient, patients are met with a full and comprehensive response from a British patient advocate - not broken English from a rep. Although there is nothing wrong with that, this means our patients can have all of their queries answered comprehensively and know that they can expect this level of understanding from start to finish.

 

Our patients are genuine, our testimonials are genuine, and most importantly for us, our patients are more than happy with their results and the treatment they receive from us. We do not advertise heavily, we do not pay to be on forums, we work from word of mouth from satisfied patients. I appreciate that there are some 'dodgy' clinics out there, but we are not one of them, and thus, although forums are all about free speech and expressing opinions, our company would appreciate members refraining from making uninformed sweeping statements which are unprovoked, liable in nature and damaging to our company. Unlike many companies/doctors we don't use these forums to gain patients, but we do object to our reputation being damaged without valid cause.

[1978matt]

What exactly do you think that implies? It means that when someone is 30 that strip or FUE can be considered while anyone under 30 is more suitable for FUE.

 

Here is a more detailed answer regarding Feriduni's stance, taken from his rep Daphne:

 

 

Feriduni also reiterated this to me personally during our Skype consult. He is not a fan of performing strip to young patients.

 

Taken from Feriduni's website:

 

Patients older than 30 - 35 are also deemed as being more suited, as the occurrence of the so-called stretch-back effect is less pronounced.

 

In general

 

Fair enough but I don't you can categorically say that he would refuse strip to under 30s. In fact, here are 7 examples below. I'm sure the doc would weigh everything up like future hairloss and desire to shave head close etc and recommend one or the other.

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/140284-fut-performed-dr-feriduni-nw-ii-anterior-class-n-2411-fu.html

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/136929-dense-packing-fut-nw-iv-class-n-6790-fu-2-procedures.html

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/138477-dense-packing-fut-performed-dr-feriduni-nw-class-iv-v-4403-fu.html

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/161027-dense-packing-follicular-unit-transplantation-performed-dr-feriduni-%96-2570-fu.html

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni.com/en/pictures-videos-references/hair-loss-in-men/fut-treatments/fut-2019-fu.html

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni.com/en/pictures-videos-references/hair-loss-in-men/fut-treatments/fut-with-2201-fu.html

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni.com/en/pictures-videos-references/hair-loss-in-men/fut-treatments/fut-2596-fu.html

[Mickey85]

Fair enough but I don't you can categorically say that he would refuse strip to under 30s. In fact, here are 7 examples below. I'm sure the doc would weigh everything up like future hairloss and desire to shave head close etc and recommend one or the other.

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/140284-fut-performed-dr-feriduni-nw-ii-anterior-class-n-2411-fu.html

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/136929-dense-packing-fut-nw-iv-class-n-6790-fu-2-procedures.html

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/138477-dense-packing-fut-performed-dr-feriduni-nw-class-iv-v-4403-fu.html

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/161027-dense-packing-follicular-unit-transplantation-performed-dr-feriduni-%96-2570-fu.html

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni.com/en/pictures-videos-references/hair-loss-in-men/fut-treatments/fut-2019-fu.html

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni.com/en/pictures-videos-references/hair-loss-in-men/fut-treatments/fut-with-2201-fu.html

http://hairtransplantation.feriduni.com/en/pictures-videos-references/hair-loss-in-men/fut-treatments/fut-2596-fu.html

 

Those examples are sound and valid. I do notice that the forum posted examples were done mostly in 2009 so maybe Feriduni has had a change of heart recently, I'm not sure. I'm just passing on what I was told. I do believe he uses FUE as a first resort for guys under 30 with strip being a consideration if the patient is not a good candidate for FUE though.

[1978matt]

I find it strange that in earlier messages (a few weeks ago) you stated that HTI had little interest in this forum and were notified by patients about my claims. However, when I looked at your website there were 3 or 4 links directing readers to patient blogs on this very website. (These now appear to have been removed).

 

It seems to me - and it is only my opinion - that you did have an interest in 'marketing' HTI through this forum. Perhaps you would have been better off contacting the moderators and asking to be considered for recommendation?

 

Maybe some of your patients would project a better image of HTI if they did not come on to a forum slagging off strip surgery and heavily promoting your clinic. It is not really befitting of a professional organisation.

 

It would also be good if you could confirm if your UK patient advocate is a poster on this forum.

 

 

My attention has been brought to this post and I would like to respond on the company's behalf as follows:

 

Health Travel International has at no time treated, corresponded or liaised with 1978Matt - his statement above referring to the company as a 'dodgy clinic' is therefore considered liable in nature as Matt1978 has not had the opportunity to form his own opinion on the company, as, as stated above, he has had no contact or experience with the company, or to my knowledge, any of its patient advocates.

 

Health Travel International is a reputable company which takes patient care and quality standards extremely seriously. Being UK based, the company brings UK/European professionalism and standards to Turkey - this is what sets us apart from other HT clinics in Turkey.

 

From a quick Google search - there are 4 HT companies (in the UK), all from page 1 of the search who do not advertise their surgeons. Some are very well known clinics, one of which even advertises franchising opportunities........I am not quite sure what to make of that.

 

I will name the companies rather than post links which will likely be removed by moderators:

 

- UK Hair transplant Clinics

 

- HS Hair Clinic

 

- Advanced Hair

 

- The Glasgow Hair Clinic

 

It is fair to say that the vast majority of people would not consider the above to be 'dodgy clinics' purely because they choose not to advertise their surgeons - it seems this 'dodgy' stigma is not attracted in their case because they are not based abroad.

A good proportion of our patients have had unsatisfactory treatment in the UK and therefore look to be treated abroad. I stress again, we are a UK based company.

 

I cannot speak for the above named clinics, but HTI makes a conscious decision not to openly display our surgeons. For the sake of clarity, we employ several HT specialist surgeons - not just one. Our surgeons are specialists - hard working, highly experienced surgeons who are focused on working hard on their day jobs which is achieving great results for our patients - NOT on boosting their profile across the globe. Our surgeons work for our company only - they are not affiliated with several agencies who bring them patients, as is the case with many well known surgeons.

 

Unlike some of our counterparts, we do not operate as a hair factory, relying on technicians only to perform procedures with surgeons only drawing hairlines etc. Our procedures are surgeon led - in some cases, despite the cost, the company often uses more than one surgeon during a procedure where this is considered particularly beneficial. Our priority is achieving the best results possible for each patient, providing the highest level of patient care and expertise with UK professionalism.

When an enquiry comes to us from a UK patient, patients are met with a full and comprehensive response from a British patient advocate - not broken English from a rep. Although there is nothing wrong with that, this means our patients can have all of their queries answered comprehensively and know that they can expect this level of understanding from start to finish.

 

Our patients are genuine, our testimonials are genuine, and most importantly for us, our patients are more than happy with their results and the treatment they receive from us. We do not advertise heavily, we do not pay to be on forums, we work from word of mouth from satisfied patients. I appreciate that there are some 'dodgy' clinics out there, but we are not one of them, and thus, although forums are all about free speech and expressing opinions, our company would appreciate members refraining from making uninformed sweeping statements which are unprovoked, liable in nature and damaging to our company. Unlike many companies/doctors we don't use these forums to gain patients, but we do object to our reputation being damaged without valid cause.

Edited October 10, 2013 by 1978matt

[greatjob]

My attention has been brought to this post and I would like to respond on the company's behalf as follows:

Health Travel International has at no time treated, corresponded or liaised with 1978Matt - his statement above referring to the company as a 'dodgy clinic' is therefore considered liable in nature as Matt1978 has not had the opportunity to form his own opinion on the company, as, as stated above, he has had no contact or experience with the company, or to my knowledge, any of its patient advocates.

 

Health Travel International is a reputable company which takes patient care and quality standards extremely seriously. Being UK based, the company brings UK/European professionalism and standards to Turkey - this is what sets us apart from other HT clinics in Turkey.

 

From a quick Google search - there are 4 HT companies (in the UK), all from page 1 of the search who do not advertise their surgeons. Some are very well known clinics, one of which even advertises franchising opportunities........I am not quite sure what to make of that.

 

I will name the companies rather than post links which will likely be removed by moderators:

 

- UK Hair transplant Clinics

 

- HS Hair Clinic

 

- Advanced Hair

 

- The Glasgow Hair Clinic

 

It is fair to say that the vast majority of people would not consider the above to be 'dodgy clinics' purely because they choose not to advertise their surgeons - it seems this 'dodgy' stigma is not attracted in their case because they are not based abroad.

A good proportion of our patients have had unsatisfactory treatment in the UK and therefore look to be treated abroad. I stress again, we are a UK based company.

 

I cannot speak for the above named clinics, but HTI makes a conscious decision not to openly display our surgeons. For the sake of clarity, we employ several HT specialist surgeons - not just one. Our surgeons are specialists - hard working, highly experienced surgeons who are focused on working hard on their day jobs which is achieving great results for our patients - NOT on boosting their profile across the globe. Our surgeons work for our company only - they are not affiliated with several agencies who bring them patients, as is the case with many well known surgeons.

 

Unlike some of our counterparts, we do not operate as a hair factory, relying on technicians only to perform procedures with surgeons only drawing hairlines etc. Our procedures are surgeon led - in some cases, despite the cost, the company often uses more than one surgeon during a procedure where this is considered particularly beneficial. Our priority is achieving the best results possible for each patient, providing the highest level of patient care and expertise with UK professionalism.

When an enquiry comes to us from a UK patient, patients are met with a full and comprehensive response from a British patient advocate - not broken English from a rep. Although there is nothing wrong with that, this means our patients can have all of their queries answered comprehensively and know that they can expect this level of understanding from start to finish.

 

Our patients are genuine, our testimonials are genuine, and most importantly for us, our patients are more than happy with their results and the treatment they receive from us. We do not advertise heavily, we do not pay to be on forums, we work from word of mouth from satisfied patients. I appreciate that there are some 'dodgy' clinics out there, but we are not one of them, and thus, although forums are all about free speech and expressing opinions, our company would appreciate members refraining from making uninformed sweeping statements which are unprovoked, liable in nature and damaging to our company. Unlike many companies/doctors we don't use these forums to gain patients, but we do object to our reputation being damaged without valid cause.

 

 

Every single poster I see from HTI resembles the pattern of a clinic shill, this includes 2thoudriver when he first signed up. When he first started posting he came across as a clinic shill. I do disagree with a lot of his views but I don't really believe he is a shill anymore, , but I suspect he is the one who alerted you of this thread.

 

Almost every poster praising HTI are new members and are quite zealous. We are not dumb on here, so while I don't believe you plant shills, I do believe you try to circumvent recommendation on this site by rigorously encouraging satisfied patients to post here.

 

As far as your doctor situation, I don't trust any clinic who is not centrally based on a single, or sometime a tandem, of world class surgeons. If I consult with a clinic and I don't know what doctor will perform my surgery, I might as well go to bosley and roll the dice. You can spin this whichever way you like, but the bottom line is going to a clinic with no clue who your doctor will be is stupid and a gamble. Results are based on a consistent doctor, not the name of a clinic.

[s2thoudriver]

1978matt'/greatjob... i'm not sure what your problem is, but your tone is bad, or at least reads bad on your posts. Let me keep this short and be very clear....

 

I have in no way 'slagged strip off', i have simply stated that it is old practice and things have moved on.

 

I have stated that my sole intention on this forum is to help people get good resukts and avoid the pain of a failed HT, so uif that means telling people about my positive experience and passing on my research findings then i will do so.

 

I am under no terms emplyed by HTI or have been informing them of this thread, i have better things to do with my time. To clarify (again), i have been working in the Utility sector now for 6 months after working in the Banking sector last time these accusations were thrown at me.

 

My 'Shill' as you put it has been...and will remain the same for HTI and my results...which is all positive (and why wouldn't it be). That said, the backlash i have recieved over the last 18 months on this forum purely from trying to help people is sometimes draining and very surprising, often makes me wonder why i bother trying to help.

 

I never said the surgeons remain annonymous at HTI, i just said that from what i can see, they don't promote them by name, rather they go by results. I did however state that the surgeons themselves aren't interested in becoming 'recommended by a website' as i asked them when i had my HT!. I did not state that HTI wouldn't be interested in patient feedback on here, as i'm sure they would be (as most clinics are!).

 

Whenever i have had a procedure with them (i have have returned for more cosmetic surgery procedures with them since my HT in 2012), i have always had a consultation with the surgeon selected as the most suitible from their team to get the best results for the type pf procedure. Throughout this process, i have been able to review both their credentials and experience and to openly discuss my procedures and proposed results in great detail. If i were uncomfortable with that at any point, then i wouldn't have proceeded would i, i certainly wouldn't have returned for larger, more complex procedures than my HT.

 

Yes, i am pleased about my results, they are life changing, so why on earth wouldn't i should about it?? and why wouldn't i hope that others have the same feeling too?? You may be bitter about your experiences, or maybe even jealous of others results from newer, less invasive methods at lower prices than you paid for your strip, but seriously, you should be embracing that and encouraging it.

 

If you are still going for more strip procedures with your 'world class surgeons' (and by world class you mean 'recommended by a forum even though they are performing decade old practices!!) then all i can do is wish you well and hope you don't come away with any regrets or requirements for future repair work.

 

Rob

[MAGNUMpi]

 

the backlash i have recieved over the last 18 months on this forum purely from trying to help people is sometimes draining and very surprising, often makes me wonder why i bother trying to help.

Don't give up. You've made some really great posts.

[s2thoudriver]

Cheers Magnumpi, appreciated mate :-)

[Mickey85]

Don't give up. You've made some really great posts.

 

Indeed man. Before your case showed up, FUE was relegated to 'minor recession'. Your case really was a breakthrough for this forum as it was one of the first successful patient-posted large FUE session. You should see how many haters I have lol.

[CaddyTad77]

FUE needs messengers to spread the news that it can be just as good as strip! Dr Lorenzo is proving that everyday

[greatjob]

Indeed man. Before your case showed up, FUE was relegated to 'minor recession'. Your case really was a breakthrough for this forum as it was one of the first successful patient-posted large FUE session. You should see how many haters I have lol.

 

2800 grafts is a big case?

[Mickey85]

2800 grafts is a big case?

 

In one session and at the time, yes. Prior to that FUE on this forum was generally relegated to sub-1,500 graft sessions, especially posted by a patient, not a clinic. The big patient posted FUE results prior to this were unimpressive to me. I am talking one session here, not 6,000 grafts split over 2 sessions spaced 2 years apart. I did find s2thoudriver's result an eye opener.

[greatjob]

1978matt'/greatjob... i'm not sure what your problem is, but your tone is bad, or at least reads bad on your posts.

 

My tone is bad? Go back and read your posts, you insulted everyone who questioned you.

 

I have no problem with fue, I actually hope strip eventually goes away as well and fue or a better method is able to serve everyone. However you are one of the most uninformed people posting in this thread. Tell me how fue can be a complete replacement for strip if it can't replace strip for every single patient? Without regeneration fue is not the solution for many people, like me, who have good laxity and poor density, therefore fue cannot totally replace strip, as you claim, because it does not fully serve the marketplace. That is not my opinion that is a fact.

 

I honestly believe fue is now a better option for probably the majority of patients and I agree with most of what posters like Mickey have to say. I have not had any debates with Mickey on this subject since the last time we had one of these threads and that's because he agreed fue can't serve every patient and I agreed that all old myths with fue have been shattered and we realized we shared most of the same views. You on the other hand continue to make misinformed blanket statements that fue is a complete replacement for strip and anyone who gets a strip in this day and age is stupid and that's just a flat out false statement.

 

And yes I stand by my statement that I would never go to or trust a clinic who is not exclusively linked to a prominent doctor. And that has nothing to do with recommendation on this forum. I beleive this site is the best source of HT doctors but there are doctors not here that I recommend, like Dr. Demirsoy (notice I said Dr. Demirsoy and not the name of his clinic, because only the doctors name matters not the clinics). Your results are great and I'm happy for you, but that doesn't change my views of HTI. If someone sees your results and books with HTI how do they know they will get the same doctor you did? Since you said the clinic just selects the surgeon they feel best suits the clients needs. I find it ironic that you are willing to blindly truts HTI in selecting your surgeon, but then you openly question the ethics and motives of all of the best surgeons who perform strip.

[1978matt]

My tone is bad? Go back and read your posts, you insulted everyone who questioned you.

 

I have no problem with fue, I actually hope strip eventually goes away as well and fue or a better method is able to serve everyone. However you are one of the most uninformed people posting in this thread. Tell me how fue can be a complete replacement for strip if it can't replace strip for every single patient? Without regeneration fue is not the solution for many people, like me, who have good laxity and poor density, therefore fue cannot totally replace strip, as you claim, because it does not fully serve the marketplace. That is not my opinion that is a fact.

 

I honestly believe fue is now a better option for probably the majority of patients and I agree with most of what posters like Mickey have to say. I have not had any debates with Mickey on this subject since the last time we had one of these threads and that's because he agreed fue can't serve every patient and I agreed that all old myths with fue have been shattered and we realized we shared most of the same views. You on the other hand continue to make misinformed blanket statements that fue is a complete replacement for strip and anyone who gets a strip in this day and age is stupid and that's just a flat out false statement.

 

And yes I stand by my statement that I would never go to or trust a clinic who is not exclusively linked to a prominent doctor. And that has nothing to do with recommendation on this forum. I beleive this site is the best source of HT doctors but there are doctors not here that I recommend, like Dr. Demirsoy (notice I said Dr. Demirsoy and not the name of his clinic, because only the doctors name matters not the clinics). Your results are great and I'm happy for you, but that doesn't change my views of HTI. If someone sees your results and books with HTI how do they know they will get the same doctor you did? Since you said the clinic just selects the surgeon they feel best suits the clients needs. I find it ironic that you are willing to blindly truts HTI in selecting your surgeon, but then you openly question the ethics and motives of all of the best surgeons who perform strip.

 

Couldn't have put it better Greatjob.

 

Rob if you really think your result is equal to or better than most of the 'world class surgeons' (as you put it) I suggest you take a more detailed look on the results pages to find out what a ultra refined follicular unit hair transplant actually looks like.

 

Thanks also for your best wishes regarding my and greatjob's strip surgeries and hopes that we do not require any repair sessions. I'd also like to wish you luck that your hairloss doesn't progress much further (noting that you are not on finasteride and appear to have some thinning in the crown and mid section). If it does, I hope you will come back and post your 2nd, 3rd, 4th and maybe 5th FUE session with Health Travel International. Maybe they will be able to find another 6,000 multi-hair grafts hiding in the back of your head somewhere. Failing that, who knows, perhaps we will get to see how good their specialism is in beard and body hair transplants:eek:.

 

In terms of 'slagging off', then look no further than the poster 'Steve' who shared the same IP address with 2 other posters. This may have been plausible but when you look at the evidence:

 

• Same IP addresses.

• Same format profile name 'Name1234'.

• All 3 posters submitted detailed 'blogs' and detailed clinic photos.

• At least 2 of the posters had links on the HTI website directing people here (despite the fact poster HTInternational claimed to know nothing of this forum until being alerted to recent posts).

• The posters have pretty much disappeared into thin air.

Classic shill marketing tactics at their finest.

[CaddyTad77]

I have outrageously good donor density, but a very tight scalp, so FUE is the best route for me. FUT would be a risk for a person with a overly tight scalp. The best FUE results are equal to the best FUT results.

I'd rather not go to another consult and be told that my scar " Will be pencil-thin". Those are words out of the mouths that feed the mills. But there are some really good results, both FUE and FUT. It's what you feel comfortable with that matters most.

Edited October 12, 2013 by CaddyTad77

[Spanker]

It's what you feel comfortable with that matters most.

 

Agreed.

[s2thoudriver]

Wow, you kids crack me up :rolleyes:...

 

"I'd also like to wish you luck that your hairloss doesn't progress much further (noting that you are not on finasteride and appear to have some thinning in the crown and mid section). If it does, I hope you will come back and post your 2nd, 3rd, 4th and maybe 5th FUE session with Health Travel International. Maybe they will be able to find another 6,000 multi-hair grafts hiding in the back of your head somewhere. Failing that, who knows, perhaps we will get to

see how good their specialism is in beard and body hair transplants"

 

To answer your sarcastic points...

 

- No, i don't take those drugs as i don't want to risk the side effects.

- Yes, i too hope my hair loss doesn't progress much further, but that's why i waited until i was 35 so it has stabled out as much as possible

- Yes, i will have another procedure, probably in a year or 2, to dense pack the mid and rear thirds. This has already been discussed and planned with HTI and the required donor area both checked and reserved.

- Possibly post it on here, but tbh, i'm fed up of trying to help people and getting slagged off, just because i've shown people that you can get great results, for lower prices, without having to have half your scalp cut open

- They are actually very good at BHT and have been doing this for years also. There was a patient there having a BHT when i was having my gynecomastia, it looked very impressive... and they didn't have to cut a stip out of their chin either, they used a punch

[gillenator]

I have outrageously good donor density, but a very tight scalp, so FUE is the best route for me. FUT would be a risk for a person with a overly tight scalp. The best FUE results are equal to the best FUT results.

I'd rather not go to another consult and be told that my scar " Will be pencil-thin". Those are words out of the mouths that feed the mills. But there are some really good results, both FUE and FUT. It's what you feel comfortable with that matters most.

 

If you have a tight scalp, you definitely do not want to do strip. As you stated, why risk a wider than expected strip scar. A lack of adequate scalp laxity is one of the reasons that the individual is better suited for FUE.

[Jotronic]

I have stated that my sole intention on this forum is to help people get good resukts and avoid the pain of a failed HT, so uif that means telling people about my positive experience and passing on my research findings then i will do so.

 

I am under no terms emplyed by HTI or have been informing them of this thread, i have better things to do with my time. To clarify (again), i have been working in the Utility sector now for 6 months after working in the Banking sector last time these accusations were thrown at me.

 

I have a question. If you are not employed by HTI, and by "employed", this would mean receiving any sort of compensation monetarily or any sort of discount on future surgeries, why does your diary/website encourage visitors to "Mention this Hair Transplant Diary or the Hair Transplant Network for the most competitive prices."?

 

 

Furthermore, why is your email address listed as the only contact for the HTI Facebook page?

 

[greatjob]

[chrisdav]

I said that back in the ice age.

[s2thoudriver]

Put quite simply... if I can help people get the best deal with a hair transplant then surely that is helping people get value as well as results?? I can't guarantee a discount as it's nothing to do with me what prices they give. It's like going to a car garage and saying 'I came to you because you were recommended on am owners club' or 'my friend was happy with the service and said you could do me a good price'.

 

With regard to my fb page, yes that is my email address, as it is on my blog site, it is not a HTI address, therefore if my friends (not Facebook stalkers) are thinking about having any surgery then I would rather give a positive reference, rather than letting people go to rubbish places like Transform.

 

Jeez, what is wrong with you people?!? Seriously, why is it so hard to offer helpful advice and pointers to people?? I don't get this when posting on trip adviser.

 

I'll remove anything off my Facebook as I am tired of haters on the hunt. Go have a HT wherever you want, I hope you get good results.

 

Regards

 

Rob

[greatjob]

 

With regard to my fb page, yes that is my email address, as it is on my blog site, it is not a HTI address, therefore if my friends (not Facebook stalkers) are thinking about having any surgery then I would rather give a positive reference, rather than letting people go to rubbish places like Transform.

 

Jeez, what is wrong with you people?!? Seriously, why is it so hard to offer helpful advice and pointers to people?? I don't get this when posting on trip adviser.

 

I'll remove anything off my Facebook as I am tired of haters on the hunt. Go have a HT wherever you want, I hope you get good results.

 

Regards

 

Rob

We are "hating" on you because your posts have since the beginning sounded like a typical clinic shill, you bash every other clinic/technique, tirelessly promote your clinic, and your clinic has had numerous verified shills here posting from the same IP addresses. No one here likes these kinds of tactics to drum up business, they are unethical and we call them out when we see them. I personally believe you have received some compensation from HTI for your work on the forums, whether it be money or free procedures. Making recommendations to friends and family is not the same as going on a public forum with a high profile and violating or circumventing the terms of service of the forum to solicit business for HTI.

[s2thoudriver]

Would it not be easier, less hassle for me if I was a paid employee of HTI, rather than having to repeatedly answer to all accusations? Yes, it would!! He fact of the matter is, I am not, so why would I say I am?? I could do, just to let you cheer with joy thinking 'I was right', say it is my clinic or whatever, but why??

 

I don't attack all other clinics at all, i agree, i do talk avidly against the strip procedure as I strongly believe it is unethical to still push people into having that...regardless of clinic.

 

I have also stated that there are good results from other clinics and can only offer my quantified results based on my personal experience.

 

With regard to shills and IP addresses and such forth, I wouldn't have a clue where to start! Doing a blog site was technical enough for me!

 

The only 'forum violation' I can be vilified for is for not 'actively promoting' the so called 'recommended clinics' as others do on here (most of whom are paid sales reps!)

 

I would also like to add that if I was being paid, I certain wouldn't be trying to get discounts for people!! and I would certainly be doing a lot better at promoting!!

 

Rob