Say it ain't so.

[Gatsby]

Yes the grafts grow at their own rate up until 12 months where pretty much every hair has popped.

[Redmann]

Just wanted to with the OP the best. Not much to add here technically that others who know a lot more about this haven't.

This might sound trite but... Try not to blame yourself if you can. All of of us could always have done more research, been a little bit less naive, etc - But it's ultimately not your fault that someone is simply bad at their job. Hope this helps!

[Al - Moderator]

If the transplanted hair is growing and the donor still looks very good then you are in a pretty good spot overall. It sounds like you at least won't look freaky and will actually look a bit better than you did. You'll need another hair transplant, but you will already have a good base of growing hair in the recipient area from this transplant, so you won't need as much for the next one. Just make sure you go to a better Dr next time.

 

[mdg8736]

When are we expecting to see updated pics? 

[Oxiborick]

Well guys here were are at six months. Also pics of donor area. Not looking too great, sadly. Maybe that Toppik stuff might help? And do you think this might be salvageable? Is six months too early to assess how it might turn out?

Note that some of the thickening here (such as the Norwood 5 "band" growing back) is actually due to Propecia, which I have always responded well to.

Edited March 26, 2023 by Oxiborick

[Oxiborick]

Anyway, based on the current state of my transplanted area, and the state of my donor area, this is probably something that can be fixed, right?

[mr_peanutbutter]

1 hour ago, Oxiborick said:

Anyway, based on the current state of my transplanted area, and the state of my donor area, this is probably something that can be fixed, right?

youre heading to norwood 6 with a very huge head and crown

 

i think you need to go to a specialist for high norwoods in your next procedure

Edited March 27, 2023 by mr_peanutbutter

[Oxiborick]

23 minutes ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

youre heading to norwood 6 with a very huge head and crown

 

i think you need to go to a specialist for high norwoods in your next procedure

I heard Eugenix is good for this... How does the donor look to you?

I'm not sure how much worse it's going to get as Propecia and Rogaine have reversed the progression rather mightily (thank god). And I haven't even started on oral Minoxidil yet.

This who experience has left me feeling pretty pessimistic in general though.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Oxiborick

[mr_peanutbutter]

6 minutes ago, Oxiborick said:

I heard Eugenix is good for this... How does the donor look to you?

I'm not sure how much worse it's going to get as Propecia and Rogaine have reversed the progression rather mightily (thank god). And I haven't even started on oral Minoxidil yet.

This who experience has left me feeling pretty pessimistic in general though.

id consult with eugenix, pittella, hattingen and a few others from the forums recommended list

 

generally speaking eugenix and pittella seem to deliever the best results for high norwoods

[Spring15]

Eugenix will see to you nicely pal, see @Gatsby's immaculate result 

[Gatsby]

12 minutes ago, Spring15 said:

Eugenix will see to you nicely pal, see @Gatsby's immaculate result 

If Dr Sethi wasn’t able to have worked on my big balloon head then I would have gone straight to Dr Pittella for sure. 👍

[Oxiborick]

How do you guys think my donor area is looking? Enough left for decent coverage? They took out 3800 grafts but only implanted like half of that, so something weird happened (probably extremely high transection rate). Also if I used Toppik skillfully could I finally forgo the hat at least until the next hair transplant?

One more thing: How long does it take to be seen by Eugenix? Is there a long waitlist? I'd rather not wait past early next year because that's when I will be widely available and I'm not sure about after that...

Edited March 27, 2023 by Oxiborick

[GoliGoliGoli]

Donor looks pretty good to me.

Toppik I think should be avoided for now. Toppik and other hair fibers only work when they have hairs to "cling to" so they don't really work great on a totally bald area. 

[Oxiborick]

You guys ready to laugh? A few days back this "clinic" actually tried to charge me, without telling me, $1500 through Zelle and then $500 through my debit card, which I guess they must have still had on file. Should've cancelled the card but it slipped my mind. Happily, my bank was able to block both charges. This is actually hilarious, in that charging people's financial accounts without their knowledge or permission is exactly how Chris McTyre ended up in prison the first time he went. 🤣😆😂

At this point he's practically begging me to make an example out of him. He's lucky I dislike drama or I would drop the hammer without mercy.

Anyway, I appreciate everyone's support on here. Psychologically this whole ordeal has been absolute torture. 

Edited March 31, 2023 by Oxiborick

[Melvin- Admin]

11 hours ago, Oxiborick said:

You guys ready to laugh? A few days back this "clinic" actually tried to charge me, without telling me, $1500 through Zelle and then $500 through my debit card, which I guess they must have still had on file. Should've cancelled the card but it slipped my mind. Happily, my bank was able to block both charges. This is actually hilarious, in that charging people's financial accounts without their knowledge or permission is exactly how Chris McTyre ended up in prison the first time he went. 🤣😆😂

At this point he's practically begging me to make an example out of him. He's lucky I dislike drama or I would drop the hammer without mercy.

Anyway, I appreciate everyone's support on here. Psychologically this whole ordeal has been absolute torture. 

Wow that is shameful. Have you asked them why they tried to charge you? Also, why would they be charging through Zelle? Shouldn’t they have a legitimate charging system. That’s already sounding shady.

[Oxiborick]

On 3/31/2023 at 1:35 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

Wow that is shameful. Have you asked them why they tried to charge you? Also, why would they be charging through Zelle? Shouldn’t they have a legitimate charging system. That’s already sounding shady.

I refused to pay for the second half of the money I owed them (I paid half up front) because they would not look at this thread and respond to the criticisms in it, or honestly engage me when I confronted them with how bad the transplant actually was. That was in early November; I'm guessing that they decided to try to get the money I "owe" them and went after my accounts -- but that was in March, and they didn't tell me they were going to try to charge me that way. They just did it with no notifications. (I haven't tried asking them personally because these are some seriously scary people -- did you see that news report I linked to? Yikes!) Nothing has happened since then (I canceled the debit card in question and blocked Zelle), but if they try any more shenanigans I will make them famous.

It's been seven months and the HT looks like crap. Worst part is how they didn't put any grafts in the mid-scalp so I've got (sparse) hair on the crown and in the front, but with a ridiculous bald strip a couple inches wide in between them that looks nothing like any natural male pattern baldness.

Have been in touch with a couple other people who know about this place (not on this forum) and they claim that the "surgeons" there are actually med techs who have been given perfunctory training, notwithstanding the "all our staff have 20+ years of experience" claim on their website.

Edited May 11, 2023 by Oxiborick

[Berba11]

4 hours ago, Oxiborick said:

I refused to pay for the second half of the money I owed them (I paid half up front) because they would not look at this thread and respond to the criticisms in it, or honestly engage me when I confronted them with how bad the transplant actually was. That was in early November; I'm guessing that they decided to try to get the money I "owe" them and went after my accounts -- but that was in March, and they didn't tell me they were going to try to charge me that way. They just did it with no notifications. (I haven't tried asking them personally because these are some seriously scary people -- did you see that news report I linked to? Yikes!) Nothing has happened since then (I canceled the debit card in question and blocked Zelle), but if they try any more shenanigans I will make them famous.

It's been seven months and the HT looks like crap. Worst part is how they didn't put any grafts in the mid-scalp so I've got (sparse) hair on the crown and in the front, but with a ridiculous bald strip a couple inches wide in between them that looks nothing like any natural male pattern baldness.

Have been in touch with a couple other people who know about this place (not on this forum) and they claim that the "surgeons" there are actually med techs who have been given perfunctory training, notwithstanding the "all our staff have 20+ years of experience" claim on their website.

Hope you’re doing well mate. Share some photos so we can see what you’re dealing with if you have a spare minute. 

[Pbaird98]

Hey Bro, Bosley is a awful lowest tier chain clinic! Some truly sub par results stem from some of their various locations. Not the place to be getting a professional opinion from. 

[Oxiborick]

2 hours ago, Pbaird98 said:

Hey Bro, Bosley is a awful lowest tier chain clinic! Some truly sub par results stem from some of their various locations. Not the place to be getting a professional opinion from. 

Ah, gotcha. Yeah I'm probably going to go with Nader or Eugenix.

Bosley is very expensive too from what I understand.

[Pbaird98]

3 minutes ago, Oxiborick said:

Ah, gotcha. Yeah I'm probably going to go with Nader or Eugenix.

Bosley is very expensive too from what I understand.

Those are infinitely better choices, Bosley prove that spending more doesn’t mean getting a decent result. 
 

[Oxiborick]

13 hours ago, Pbaird98 said:

Those are infinitely better choices, Bosley prove that spending more doesn’t mean getting a decent result. 
 

Eugenix just tried to recruit me over PM here, color me impressed! That's pretty awesome. 

I'll keep you guys posted.

[MatthewDM111]

I just went through your entire thread. I just wanted to say I am very impressed with how you have handled this very traumatic situation. Being able to get through this means you can survive anything. Have you had the opportunity to schedule a consultation with Eugenix or Nader yet? I love seeing their results on here, always very impressive.

[Oxiborick]

Well fellas here we are at 8 months. Looks pretty horrible. Just how bad is it, would you say? I haven't started on any minoxidil yet but I am on finasteride. What do you think? Can this be salvaged? I've experimented with Toppik a bit and can actually make it so this looks like I'm just balding normally instead of having a weird botched HT.

How do you think this looks compared to the "before" pictures on the first page? Worse or better? I'll post some Toppik pics as soon I get some more in the mail from Amazon.

Edited June 23, 2023 by Oxiborick

[Al - Moderator]

You definitely have more hair growing now than before you went, so that's good. Now you need to go to a high quality hair transplant center and get a proper hair transplant. It's good that a lot of the grafts grew in. That helps. At least they weren't wasted grafts and it gives you a small base of hair, so you won't need quite as many grafts on the next one as you would have needed if you never went to the first one.

 

Edited June 23, 2023 by BeHappy

[TheGreatPretender]

I feel like your lateral hams improved. This will likely aid you to get optimal results in your next intervention.