Why I highly recommend you don't take finasteride

[gasto]

As Bobilero says Propecia is a "2EachHisOwn".

 

 

Most top doctors advise their patients to take propecia to preserve native hair, but each patient must in the end decide which downside they can live with.

 

People that have incrementing side-effects and continue the drug out of fear of loosing the earned hair are, in my opinion, psychologically ill. That would need a psychological review.

 

Of course, hair is just hair, and it adds little(if anything) to the survival of the organism. The reproductive organs, liver, thyroid and brain on the other side are paramount for the functioning of the whole body and once you harm those, if the harm is profound enough, it might be irreversible.

 

As the saying goes: "one does not know what one has until it is lost".

Edited October 2, 2012 by gasto

[Shampoo]

People that have incrementing side-effects

Most people tolerate propecia quite well.

Almost all studies have shown "people having incriminating side-effects" because of Propecia are in the minority and that's why most top hair transplant surgeons recommend that their patients take finasteride/Propecia.

 

 

As the saying goes: "one does not know what one has until it is lost"

That could be said for almost all drugs.

Even wonder drugs don't work for everybody.

I know a woman that can't take certain antibiotics,

Certain medications work well for some, not so much for others.

It's a pity when they dont work for some & they are left to deal with the affliction.

 

I feel quite confident I would be much balder without propecia & currently have zero side effects.

 

I sometimes worry that a very vocal minority could someday force propecia off the market and the millions of guys that tolerate it well and really appreciate what propecia has done as far as preserving their native hair will be left out in the cold. (and bald!)

[gasto]

The only reason that a drug is taken out of the market is because it is dangerous or it does not work. I fear that whilst finasteride works, the side-effects have not been studied well enough by the present scientific studies.

 

Also, bare in mind, most drugs are taken when the illness is present. Finasteride must be taken for as long as the extra hair is wanted. So the usage of finasteride is prolonged. Unlike the majority of medicines, like antibiotics, that are taken only when infections arise. The body can later recover from the side effects.

[Shampoo]

The only reason that a drug is taken out of the market is because it is dangerous or it does not work.

 

"Does not work" and "dangerous" for what percentage?

Most studies show propecia works for most patients.

Many drugs don't have long term studies because they are newer.

If we had to have long term studies on every drug before we took

it...it could take decades before every new drug was available.

 

Also, bare in mind, most drugs are taken when the illness is present. Finasteride must be taken for as long as the extra hair is wanted. So the usage of finasteride is prolonged. Unlike the majority of medicines, like antibiotics, that are taken only when infections arise. The body can later recover from the side effects.

 

I always have found it odd that people complain about "well I dont like that if you stop taking Propecia the benefits stop". There are numerous drugs like that. I and millions of others take a daily acid reflux drug. If I stop taking it, my acid reflux returns. Many of these acid reflux drugs are relatively new so we may not fully know what long term effects they may or may not have. And some patients don't tolerate them well. All I know is millions of people like that it stops their acid reflux. Same with many blood pressure medicines. If a patient stops taking the drug the high blood pressure may return. So why the shock that if a patient stops taking propecia hairloss returns? Many arthritus drugs are the same, stop taking them and the arthritus returns. If people stop dieting the fat returns. If people stop exercising poor health may return. There are lots of things we "have to do the rest of of lives" if we want the benefit.

[gasto]

Your reading skills are quite lacking. I implied that Propecia's safety must be put to a test with a wider range of samples and for a longer period. The effectiveness is undisputed in the majority of cases.

 

I doubt that in our case (acid reflux, mine is because of a hiatal hernia), the best solution is Nexium or any other Esomeprazol compound. I think the best solution is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissen_fundoplication

 

I think that a healthy lifestyle is the best solution for health issues, and medicines with severe side-effects are not as efficient as one would like.

 

Of course some people have no option but to take medicines perennially, again, they have been informed of the pros and cons and have decided that the pros outweigh the cons.

[Shampoo]

Your reading skills are quite lacking

I will certainly take note of that.

 

 

I implied that Propecia's safety must be put to a test with a wider range of samples and for a longer period. The effectiveness is undisputed in the majority of cases.

Most drugs should be tested and re-tested over time. Propecia is no different.

 

 

I doubt that in our case (acid reflux, mine is because of a hiatal hernia), the best solution is Nexium or any other Esomeprazol compound. I think the best solution is a Nissen Fundoplication

Haital hernias are quite common, but I like my doctor's advice to use the RX and avoid a serious surgery like fundoplication where about 40% of patients have the symptoms come back or experience problems within 7 years....but again since this is a board to discuss hair, fundoplication (although much more serious) like propecia is a 2EachHisOwn. Actually an electric bed with incline has practically cured my acid reflux to a point where I may get off the RX. My electric bed that fits right in a beautiful 4 poster bed has been a near miracle on my acid reflux. A friend swares the "Wheat Belly Diet" has cured his reflux...like propecia whatever works for ya!

 

I think that a healthy lifestyle is the best solution for health issues, and medicines with severe side-effects are not as efficient as one would like.

Well sure, but most studies show my acid reflux medicine and propecia do not have "severe side-effects" for the vast majority of patients. Of course if you are severely allergic to antibiotics you should not take them. I am just so glad propecia works for me.

 

I am not opposed to further study on propecia as well as a host of other drugs.

Edited October 2, 2012 by Shampoo

[gasto]

What should be prohibited in this forum is people suggesting newbies to buy finasteride without Dr. consultation nor any knowledge of the potential side-effects. I've seen that and it is not funny at all.

[Blake Bloxham]

What should be prohibited in this forum is people suggesting newbies to buy finasteride without Dr. consultation nor any knowledge of the potential side-effects. I've seen that and it is not funny at all.

 

Gastro,

 

I know I always recommend that individuals undergo a thorough conversation and consultation with a trusted physician before starting a finasteride regimen.

[Shampoo]

What should be prohibited in this forum is people suggesting newbies to buy finasteride without Dr. consultation

 

I thought in the US/Canada a patient had to have a prescription from a doctor to get Propecia?

 

Is Propecia now sold over the counter in the US?

[Blake Bloxham]

Is Propecia now sold over the counter in the US?

 

No, but many people are able to order it online without a prescription.

 

However, because it is a serious medication, we highly recommend it is prescribed by a knowledgeable physician and discourage ordering it "blindly" online.

[Shampoo]

many people are able to order it online without a prescription.

 

I would never do that!

[Wolf]

I have taken fin for 7 months straight, 1/4 tablet each night , I too have noticed my sex drive has decreased since a year ago.

I am dating hot looking young girls and have trouble getting an erection or maintaining for a while.

The sensation is not like it was, it's as if my mind loves the look of my girls, however my dick is not interested.

I have never smoked,never taken any drugs of any kind, I am healthy, I am not overweight and I have not needed to work since the age of fifty, so I have 90% less stress than I had when I ran my business. I have been going to gym on average of 4 days a week for an hour so I keep fit and my eating habits are a lot better than when I was working.

Yes I am 53, however that should not have any effect.

I have stopped taking fin for around 2 weeks now, however things have not changed.

I return to my sexy girl friend at the end of January, so I hope there will be an improvement.

I pin point it down to Fin, this is the reason I joined this site to get a batter understanding of that horrid medicine.

I get my 2nd transplant end of January, however I will be keeping well away from Fin.

[ano1986]

i have taking propecia more than one year..the results was exxelent..i stopped loosing hair and my hair is much much better..i have noticed that my sperm gone waterly and the morning erections is very rarely...sometimes during sex i lost my erection...i ask an adrologist and told me to stop it immediattly...i ask an urologist and told me is not a problem..i make anylazes all my hormons is normal but my sperm is a little weak.(i have to say here that i had erection problems and before propecia)

..nothing to concern he told me and that is ok to continue...but i read all these scary side effects and i stopped it for two weeks now...my erections are better and the morning erections start again...the scary thing is that i start to losing many hair again...i really dont know what to do and which doctor i have to believe...any help pls?? if i would know that my side effects are these i can deal with that and defenetly continue propecia...do you think that i can take that risk? sorry i am posting these 3-4 times but i really want an answer..and because i dont know very much how this forum works is it possible to speak with a member ? thank you

[Shampoo]

I am dating hot looking young girls and have trouble getting an erection or maintaining for a while. The sensation is not like it was, it's as if my mind loves the look of my girls, however my dick is not interested.

I return to my sexy girl friend at the end of January, so I hope there will be an improvement.

 

Have you experimented with erectile dysfunction medications like viagra, cialis, or levitra?

 

My older brother who is 62 years old and dating a hot 27 year old hispanic girl he met online recently got a strong dose RX of Viagra....100MG!....which I didn't even realize they made in such high doses....he reports sometimes he takes half and sometimes the entire dose and can go all night long with his new found pleasure.

[gasto]

If after reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_disruptor, you still believe that hormonal disruptors are save, then go to a psychologist.

[abcd0000]

In about than a month after taking Finasteride, I feel signs of depression kicking in. I do have a lot of stress lately so I cannot be 100% sure it is from Finasteride, but I never responded to stress with this much passivity, dark moods, and overall lack of energy. I lost morning erection and sex drive is slightly lower, but no erectile dysfunction so far. The depressive symptoms bother me the most.

[hsrp10]

Made me sleepy and less aggressive, actually increased my sex drive, made my sperm watery, and did nothing for my hair so I stopped 2 years and nine months after being first recommended by HT#1 surgeon.

 

Also made my scalp more oily. Interestingly enough, HT#1 clinic stopped responding to my mails after I told them I wanted HT#2 and was stopping fin. I am 100% better off without this stuff.

[mikeey]

the evidence against Propecia is growing , pls refrain from using it ...... can be a fatal mistake

[abcd0000]

After the initial side effects, I resumed taking it a few weeks later, and now I'm in month 7. I see the results and the sides are gone, so I don't see myself stopping it any time soon. If there is a risk I am willing to take it.

[HARIRI]

Thanks Matt Skiba, I 100% agree with you. I suffered a lot with Finasteride and the sides got worse after 6 months that I started to experience the first ED ever. It took my time to recover after quitting it however it really gave good result for my hair. Right now I'm using GNC standardized Saw Palmetto extract as an alternative which is at least better than nothing along with Minoxidil 5%. Thanks again for this useful thread. God bless you.

[Spanker]

I have had no sides with the exception of having to remember to take the pill. No E.D. and I feel that a lot of the depression is linked to hair loss and not fin, but for some it is the fin possibly. I believe that it is helping me maintain for for almost 4 years now. I didn't study my hair as much when I started so I am not sure if I may have lost a little ground.

 

Personally, my relationship with my wife, work stress, and other life issues play far more into my sex drive than fin does as far as I can tell.

 

For me, the risk is worth the reward, so I', sticking with it.

[TommyLucchese]

Who knows maybe it'll catch up with me one day, but for the last 4 years and 2 months Fin every day - plus a bit of Avodart sprinkled in - has had 0 effect other than improving my hair.

[mikeey]

Matt skiba is a senior who wrote this even before the many cases that have recently flared up on fin/propecia , he was suffering but it was not until 2011 that propecia sales plummeted and ppl realised that it was dangerous , we Need DHT we need 5 alpha for normal functioning of our brain , its critical , but sometimes we ignore the gurus and just say ..... mmmm NOT ME , its not you now .... but down the line when u stop it , it is then when the real problems start ... beta sitosterol was the sole reason i started after i saw the effects of fin on me .... hair is very good to keep ... but health is more sexy than hair .

[paddyirishman]

Why take the risk? ( of taking fin ) its much better to have your health than to have hair . If you are seriously thinking of taking this drug you are taking a huge gamble with your health. You could lose a lot more, than what you think. We all want hair, but at what cost? Don't believe that you could be the one in so many with little or no side effects. IT COULD BE YOU. Research and look at much safer options , don't jump into it because a doctor recommends it to you, or because your friends or people you know are using it, the side effects can very much outweigh the benefits from one individual to another. The proof is there, go with your gut instinct, not the gamble that it might not happen to you.

 

Don't take a gamble; HOLD ONTO YOUR HEALTH FIRST, AND YOUR HAIR SECOND.........

 

Paddy.

[BaldingBogger]

Hope I'm wrong but I get the feeling of a ticking time bomb