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@Irry88, he shaved only the recipient area..but he didn't shave the whole head, right?

Hallo, your HT is very promising and the scar looks good! Just to satisfy my curiosity. I'm a big fun of unshaven hair transplant. In fact, the only thing I hate of Ht is the time I need to re-grow my hair! But in your case, considering the "weird" hair cut you had after the operation, why didn't you shave your head before?

it is very hard to say: you should attach more pics, from the front and from the sides. In any case, you are still young and lowering too much your hairline can be very risky. 1) If something goes wrong, you'll have a lower but patchy hairline and 2) you don't know what will happen in the future, especially considering you are not taking medications.

@miko I assume you are looking for an HT as soon as possible but my 2 cents tip is: wait some time and take medications for a while. If you don't want to use finasteride, there are other options. You'll be surprised from the results you can get from topical minoxidil and dermorolling, for example. Medications won't fix your hairline problem but you can increase density in the middle scalp and crown area, so you'll need a lower amount of graft to fix your hair. Price apart, you still used 4500 UF so you do not have much grafts to use. Consider that you are still young and the more grafts you preserve, the better it is. HT creates an illusion of density. That means: a) hairline design; b) the way the single grafts are placed one next to the other; c) hair color and thickness; c) the survival rate all these factors together play a critical role for the end result. You will never get your "teen density" back but a good surgeon can produce a great results if he acts correctly. I read you like Couto's and Lorenzo's HT and see how little grafts they use to get stunning results. a) hairline: the flat hairline design shows the low density of your hair. Things can change just simply changing that. b) grafts placement: I see that the grafts are placed in parallel and that reduces the illusion of density. If you add some graft in a "chessboard style", just a few grafts will make appear your hairs completely different. c) hair color and thickness: Your hair color and thickness are not the best but are not bad. d) survival rate: I enlarged your pics and the "survival rate" in the first line, where you were bold, is about 50%. From my personal experience I can tell that the low survival rate is because something went wrong during the operation. I do not think you had any kind of miniaturization in your donor (or any other kind of unknown thus unpredictable genetic problem) because the end result is completely different. In any cause, Dr Lorenzo is one of (if not the) best for this kind of problem so ask him for a consultation. In this world, nobody can read the future but - especially considering you still had an HT - a well prepared doctor should understand the reason your HT was a fail and should be able to see if you are a good candidate for a repair or not. I saw many guys like you. The choose a good doctor for their repair and got great results. Good luck!

I love dr elif. she tested my donor zone and was so sweet and kind! @LonelyGraft dr Özgür makes the hairline design. The woman you see in the behind him, looking at the patient, is the hairline consultant. she gives suggestions and make the math to see how many grafts the patient needs.

This is a complete different case. It could be an interesting topic, but I don't like the way you interact with people and the fact you feel free to judge other people's experience. I do not interact with a person like you.

For sure an HT is a subjective topic but I never saw such poor results from top clinic. Poor results? Sure! Such poor results? no. Anyway, I can be wrong. By the other side, when you see so many poor results from the same clinic, there is something wrong with the clinic.

Can confirm. I used liquid and got very good results but oral...oral is outstanding! no sides at all but, during the last 2 weeks, I've puffy eyes!

hairlinee design: very poor. the hairline is technically wrong. the lateral humps are over the line that goes perpendicular to your eye, the centre "curvature" is not existent. density: very. poor. Is it because you have a poor genetic? I really doubt. In any case, a well prepared doctor should be able to see if you are a good candidate or note. I think your choices for your second procedure are the best choices you can make. Pick one of them and you'll be fine. IMHO, If you can afford H&W, do not worry for the distance.

hallo guys, sorry for my late reply. At the moment, I do not feel confortabile to share my experience telling about my HT (I gave some infos here and there but I want to wait some time to publish my report). Anyway, I can answer to all the questions you made about my experience with Pekiner. @LonelyGraft asked about payments, refund and the high number of grafts extracted: a) paymentsI paid the deposit to an unknown woman. The advisor told me that she was pekiner's wife.Before leaving for turkey, the advisor told me that the clinic doesn't accept credit cards. Only cashSo, the payments are not recorded/tracked at all.Proof: I've emails and messages proving thatb) miniaturized graftsthe doctor said I was an excellent candidate.He looked at my head before shaving. He said I had a very good donor area.After 189 extractions, he said that my grafts were miniaturized.So, he aborted my HT and showed me tricoscope images.c) payment refundThe clinic was trying to keep almost all my money (1000 euro if I'm not wrong) because his assistant said that they hold that money for caution/ deposit and because the doctor in any case made a work on my scalp.I needed 3 days and several messages to get all my money back. I said that it was not fair to keep all my money because he aborted the op because HE MADE a wrong diagnosis in the first place. the clinic gave me half of money back after about 1 day and the other during the 3th day (after several messages).When they gave me my money back, the doctor asked me to sign a paper where I say that I asked not to insert grafts.d) written diagnosisThe advisor said that I would get a written diagnosis via email but I didn't not receive anything.The only written paper I got is the paper I signed where he says that he extracted 189 grafts and aborted the operation because the grafts were miniaturized. He didn't give me any kind of explanation about his statement (why he supposed the grafts were miniaturized, how many of them were miniaturized etc) My DOUBTS1) If miniaturization was visibile through tricoscope and in fact he decided to ask for tricoscpoe images for the future, why did he started the extractions instead using the tricoscope?2) if I have miniaturized grafts, why did the doctor do 189 extractions?3) why did the doctor take the UF all in the same area?4) if he was "testing" my donor zone, why didn't he take a lower number of grafts in different areas?5) if he suspected that my grafts were not good, why didn't he ask me if I accept he extracted a such high number of grafts?

Make a search on alopezie.de

Dr shapiro, i spent hours studying your article about hairline design. i shared it on this board because i think hairline design is something people need to understand in depth before thinking to have a ht procedure!

From my experience, i can tell you that At hlc they are very prepared and professional.

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first pic: 2 months second pic: 3 months

This articles from china are based on fake datas. make a seriuos search.

And a french girl died at 16. an italian died at 18. many people die in their 30s and 40s.

That Chinese research is based in false datas. the mortality rate ia about 8% at the moment. consider that a lot of people die by coronavirus but nobody knows because the virus is not detected in everybody.

I posted this research showing cases very similar to yours. melvin gave a different opinionz all of us were here to support you, so stop blaming melvin.

I usually agree with you, nit this time. the hairline design is below average and the transition zone lacks of density

He pays more attention to hairline density than to a viral pulmonary disease.

Thanks bismark! i’am in italy and the things here are terrific. you got the point: even if the virus doesn’t kill someone, it destroys lives.

1) let say that the virus infects only 70% of population 2) let say it is true that 70% of them are asyntomatic 3) you have another 30% (about 210.000/1.000.000 people) that repots really serious synthoms. 4) about 6-7% of them dies. It is about 12.000/1.000.000. Anyway, the number is so “low” if we keep everything closed and slow down the diffusion rate. It the number rises quickly, the hospitals are unable to help people and the number of dead people consequently rises. 5) at the moment, the rate between saved and dead people is 1:1 6) it is a false statement that only old and sick people die. Here a lot of young people and a lot of middle aged people died. 7) in bergamo (a small town in italy) they do not have space to store cadavers. this is the truth. All the different things you read above are stupid and ignorant statements.

It is because minoxidil stimulates keratocytes and melanocytes activity. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1637559/ i can swear it work in real word!

Minoxidil increases blood flow so it is hard to believe