Senior Member OliverAtom Posted March 14, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 7:18 PM, mtb said: 1 month. The shed has started. I reckon 30%-40% of transplanted hairs have fallen out. Also, my shock loss is significant. Maybe 30-40%. But it’s a long game. I’m 8 months from my second surgery, maybe 16-18 months from final result. Thankfully I work from home so I’ve just been wearing hats. Also told my few coworkers so it wouldn’t be weird. That is a big crown. Can wait to see Dr Zarev magic on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member OliverAtom Posted March 14, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 4:43 PM, NegativeNorwood said: Amazing news 🤩 +100000 Awesome news! Dr Zarev times 3 would be superb to have! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mtb Posted March 16, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 months. Ugly duckling is hitting hard. I am worried about a couple areas but need to be patient to see what areas get good growth. Cant tell how much of the donor thinning is the hairs extracted versus shock loss. Again, I just need to wait. Anyone have luck with fibers? I’m waaay to think to try fibers now but have a beach vacation in 1.5 months and might try them there. Could it affect new growth? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mtb Posted March 16, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 16, 2023 Dr. Zarev says still too early for growth in the recipient area. Will start to see first signs of growth at 3.5 months. Donor areas will begin to recover from excessive loss after the 4th month. So I guess the hairs I'm seeing in the recipient are hairs that haven't fallen out yet post transplant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member NegativeNorwood Posted March 16, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 16, 2023 Very interesting how despite being Norwood 6 you have much more prominent temples than me being Norwood 2 😅 Things look good despite being in the ugly duckling phase IMO, if it grows well, you'll have an amazing Norwood 1 head of hair 👱♂️ "Mature hairline" is euphemism for balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairman22 Posted March 16, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, mtb said: Dr. Zarev says still too early for growth in the recipient area. Will start to see first signs of growth at 3.5 months. Donor areas will begin to recover from excessive loss after the 4th month. So I guess the hairs I'm seeing in the recipient are hairs that haven't fallen out yet post transplant. 3-6 months growth in most areas & full result after 6 months. Crwon full result in 9 months. after 2 months is always the worst. Your donor looks incredible considering it had 8000 grafts taken out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mtb Posted March 16, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 16, 2023 Yeah just gotta be patient. Still can’t tell on the hairline. 50% of the time I like it. 50% of the time I think it’s too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mtb Posted March 16, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, NegativeNorwood said: Very interesting how despite being Norwood 6 you have much more prominent temples than me being Norwood 2 😅 Things look good despite being in the ugly duckling phase IMO, if it grows well, you'll have an amazing Norwood 1 head of hair 👱♂️ Yes, I feel like I was very lucky to still have temples being a nw 6. My bro is the exact same. 1 hour ago, hairman22 said: 3-6 months growth in most areas & full result after 6 months. Crwon full result in 9 months. after 2 months is always the worst. Your donor looks incredible considering it had 8000 grafts taken out Yes, definitely trying to be patient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HugoX Posted March 17, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/16/2023 at 5:57 PM, mtb said: 2 months. Ugly duckling is hitting hard. I am worried about a couple areas but need to be patient to see what areas get good growth. Cant tell how much of the donor thinning is the hairs extracted versus shock loss. Again, I just need to wait. Anyone have luck with fibers? I’m waaay to think to try fibers now but have a beach vacation in 1.5 months and might try them there. Could it affect new growth? I mean... Are you following my schedule of growth 😅. Except my hair being dark... Looks similar to my 2 months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member asterix0 Posted March 17, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2023 Right in the middle of the ugly duckling, this part is tough mentally but it will soon be a distant, funny memory :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member WhereIsMyMind Posted March 17, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) im at 3.5months 7k FUE, looked exactly like you at 2 months, including massive shock loss in donor. Things are starting to grow now and donor looks almost perfect now, but still much to improve though... This is such an emotional ride, being insecure about transplant result for so many months! Edited March 17, 2023 by WhereIsMyMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member asterix0 Posted March 18, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2023 10 hours ago, WhereIsMyMind said: im at 3.5months 7k FUE, looked exactly like you at 2 months, including massive shock loss in donor. Things are starting to grow now and donor looks almost perfect now, but still much to improve though... This is such an emotional ride, being insecure about transplant result for so many months! You also went to Dr. Zarev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted March 18, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted March 18, 2023 @mtb I'm also at the 2 month mark and yes the ugly duck sucks. The only advice I can give is to keep yourself busy. I did this with my first repair/hair transplant 14 months ago and I am doing it again this time around as well. I'm lucky in that I work a lot (up to 60 plus hours a week). This helps take the worry and focus off myself due to the stress and attention my job requires. It also makes time fly by quickly. Don't let the mind get caught up with worry. You've gone to who many consider the best for high Norwoods. Keep busy and this will pass. All the best! 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairman22 Posted March 18, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 18, 2023 13 hours ago, WhereIsMyMind said: im at 3.5months 7k FUE, looked exactly like you at 2 months, including massive shock loss in donor. Things are starting to grow now and donor looks almost perfect now, but still much to improve though... This is such an emotional ride, being insecure about transplant result for so many months! do you have a thread showing your case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mtb Posted March 18, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 18, 2023 19 hours ago, HugoX said: I mean... Are you following my schedule of growth 😅. Except my hair being dark... Looks similar to my 2 months @HugoX You're totally right. We're looking similar. I'll just keep throwing a hat on and forgetting about it. 19 hours ago, asterix0 said: Right in the middle of the ugly duckling, this part is tough mentally but it will soon be a distant, funny memory @asterix0 You're right. I may shave it all down again here soon. 17 hours ago, WhereIsMyMind said: im at 3.5months 7k FUE, looked exactly like you at 2 months, including massive shock loss in donor. Things are starting to grow now and donor looks almost perfect now, but still much to improve though... This is such an emotional ride, being insecure about transplant result for so many months! @WhereIsMyMind Thanks for sharing. Yeah, I've just been wearing a hat everywhere and mostly not thinking about it too much. 4 hours ago, Gatsby said: @mtb I'm also at the 2 month mark and yes the ugly duck sucks. The only advice I can give is to keep yourself busy. I did this with my first repair/hair transplant 14 months ago and I am doing it again this time around as well. I'm lucky in that I work a lot (up to 60 plus hours a week). This helps take the worry and focus off myself due to the stress and attention my job requires. It also makes time fly by quickly. Don't let the mind get caught up with worry. You've gone to who many consider the best for high Norwoods. Keep busy and this will pass. All the best! @Gatsby The key is just to put it out of our minds. It'll happen when it happens. I guess the longer hairs are just ones that haven't fallen out yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member WhereIsMyMind Posted March 18, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 18, 2023 12 hours ago, asterix0 said: You also went to Dr. Zarev? Mwamba. I tried contacting Zarev many times with no avail though haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirash Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I tried reaching out for some info and they told me i must go to Bulgaria, they wouldn’t even accept my photos, and 5 euro per graft , im a nw 6 so if i need 10,000 grafts thats 50k . Does that make sense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirash Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 euro per graft with Zarev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member asterix0 Posted March 19, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Mirash said: I tried reaching out for some info and they told me i must go to Bulgaria, they wouldn’t even accept my photos, and 5 euro per graft , im a nw 6 so if i need 10,000 grafts thats 50k . Does that make sense ? Yes that is consistent with what to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirash Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Thanks , seems very over the top , its less expensive in the USA , i know he’s very good but it seems exorbitant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HugoX Posted March 19, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Mirash said: Thanks , seems very over the top , its less expensive in the USA , i know he’s very good but it seems exorbitant Doesn't top doctors in USA charge between 6-8$ per graft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member NegativeNorwood Posted March 19, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, HugoX said: Doesn't top doctors in USA charge between 6-8$ per graft? Konior reportedly charges 15$ per graft...if anything, Zarev is very fair priced in comparison @Mirash 4 1 "Mature hairline" is euphemism for balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirash Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Thanks for the candor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirash Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Shave your heads !!! Stay bald , it’s trending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mtb Posted March 19, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2023 20 hours ago, Mirash said: I tried reaching out for some info and they told me i must go to Bulgaria, they wouldn’t even accept my photos, and 5 euro per graft , im a nw 6 so if i need 10,000 grafts thats 50k . Does that make sense ? Yeah as for visiting in person it makes sense to me. I know think it's interesting that clinics can quote graft numbers via Skype and some photos without seeing you in person. Seems like microcamera photos are invaluable. But then again people are getting great results without it, but it made sense for me the way Dr. Zarev requires to see you in person. 3 hours ago, Mirash said: Thanks , seems very over the top , its less expensive in the USA , i know he’s very good but it seems exorbitant Yes, it is very expensive. There are more affordable clinics out there so don't give up on a transplant if Dr. Zarev is out of your price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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