devop911 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Here we go again, H&W is telling us that they have there new topical without any Side Effects, because of their magical new Solution. I am a bit of concerned, because they already told us the same stuff about there liposomal stuff, which was indeed not what they told us it is! I had done blüdwork with that liposomal BS, turned out that my DHT was even lower than with 1mg oral. So @Melvin- Moderator I was not able to watch the whole Video, do they have medical evidence with bloodwork this time or is it just Blabla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted December 12, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted December 12, 2021 Contact Hasson and Wong or at least watch the entire interview. Or if you're unhappy with them for whatever reason then just accept that perhaps it's just not something for you. All the best! 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 12, 2021 Administrators Share Posted December 12, 2021 @devop911 Why are you being so combative and saying false information. They never said it was side effect-free. They said *their patients haven’t complained of any sides about 600. In fact, they were honest that their old formula caused sides, which is why they created this formula. Lastly, this formula does lower serum DHT, but only a third, compared to more than half with the oral version. If you’re not gonna bother to watch, don’t bother making a thread. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 12, 2021 Administrators Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Gatsby said: Contact Hasson and Wong or at least watch the entire interview. Or if you're unhappy with them for whatever reason then just accept that perhaps it's just not something for you. All the best! Thanks, that’s exactly right. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devop911 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) @Melvin- Moderator Oh well they said personal to me "It doesn't have any side effects", as I asked them about the old formulation! Turns out it was not liposomal finasteride, instead it was liposomal + finasteride. It is just extreme expensive with no advantages. Also putting 25mg/ml is kind of unethical! We will see, this is obviously not the gold standard, just another cash cow. I am pretty sure that this formular again, will deplete Allopregnanolone besides 1/3 of systemically DHT reduction. Calling that stuff "gold standard" is really a misleading term. An topical anti androgen which will be destroyed if it hits the bloodstream, would be a gold standard. Edited December 12, 2021 by devop911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 12, 2021 Administrators Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, devop911 said: @Melvin- Moderator Oh well they said personal to me "It doesn't have any side effects", as I asked them about the old formulation! Turns out it was not liposomal finasteride, instead it was liposomal + finasteride. It is just extreme expensive with no advantages. Also putting 25mg/ml is kind of unethical! We will see, this is obviously not the gold standard, just another cash cow. I am pretty sure that this formular again, will deplete Allopregnanolone besides 1/3 of systemically DHT reduction. Calling that stuff "gold standard" is really a misleading term. An topical anti androgen which will be destroyed if it hits the bloodstream, would be a gold standard. Don’t buy it then, no one’s forcing you. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devop911 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 This is a quite professional answer on criticism @Melvin- Moderator Waiting for the day you will try so your "gold standard" treatment and quitting it after 30 days because of sides. Stop the hypetrain, it is not as good as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bald-and-bearded Posted December 14, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) On 12/12/2021 at 4:18 PM, devop911 said: Here we go again, H&W is telling us that they have there new topical without any Side Effects, because of their magical new Solution. I am a bit of concerned, because they already told us the same stuff about there liposomal stuff, which was indeed not what they told us it is! I had done blüdwork with that liposomal BS, turned out that my DHT was even lower than with 1mg oral. So @Melvin- Moderator I was not able to watch the whole Video, do they have medical evidence with bloodwork this time or is it just Blabla? If you can reliably test your DHT then try taking it to how it works for you. Can clinics who sell products like these take advantage of your insecurity and make money unethically? Yes that is always a possibility. But do you have better options? In the interview he said it could 7-8 years until there is more data and possibly an FDA approval. If you can wait for that, then that is a safer option. Edited December 14, 2021 by bald-and-bearded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner_24 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I am starting Topical Fin from xyon. So we will see how it goes. Anybody else try it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted January 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, mariner_24 said: I am starting Topical Fin from xyon. So we will see how it goes. Anybody else try it yet? How were you able to buy it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner_24 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I kept on emailing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member InTheSix Posted February 1, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 12:18 AM, mariner_24 said: I am starting Topical Fin from xyon. So we will see how it goes. Anybody else try it yet? i got the one from McDonalds pharmacy that they prescribed mid-last year. was told its the same thing as Xyon (just no shortage issue, as with the pharmacy).. havent tried it for long enough to form an opinion yet.. but will update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gokuhairline Posted February 2, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 2, 2022 is topical fin for those who already have thin/balding at crown and meant to regrow or can someone with no loss on crown apply this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Smacias15 Posted March 8, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 12/12/2021 at 2:10 PM, Melvin- Moderator said: Don’t buy it then, no one’s forcing you. There will never be a cure for baldness. Too much money doctors and pharmaceutical companies are making. Just take the best treatment available and take care of your hair inside and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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