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Dr. Feller,

 

You might be a good FUT Surgeon but unfortunately you fall extremely short when it comes to basic courtesy, manners, politeness, professional etiquette, tolerance and human kindness. All through your "super star thread" that makes you "gloat" with pride, you have INSULTED folks that have "dared" to disagree with you. How dare you use the term "stupid mistake" for Dr. Bhatti and his Rep? Do you OWN this forum. Are you the "Supreme ruler" that can get away with anything and everything? Forum ADMINS, requesting you to take appropriate action. BUSA got kicked out for being rude.....can someone go over Dr. Feller's posts and put them through a "rudeness test".

 

Here is one example of Dr. Feller's insulting attacks that too on Mickey85, one of the biggest and most respected contributors on this Forum:

 

Mickey is simply an online bully and stalker. Also known in the parlance of the internet as a "Hater". He doesn't hate everybody, just those who disagree with him.

Sorry Mickey, but doctors are allowed to use this website and share their opinion unmolested by the likes of self appointed know nothing "experts" like yourself. I don't come on here to debate with the likes of you, although you hilariously think I do. I write to bring facts to newbies who don't know any better and might be influenced by you and your kind.

If you fancy yourself a consumer affairs expert and want to hold yourself out to the public as such, then stand accountable for

your words and offer your real name and address. (Post #123)

 

Ironically, recently Dr. Feller (after he realized that Mickey85 was quite knowledgeable in HT) for a change, complimented Mickey85 for his views!

 

Dr. Feller keeps on tooting his horn that "No FUE Surgeon has refuted this claims"....what he does NOT get is that NO ONE WANTS TO GET INSULTED BY HIM! How hard is that to understand? For the longest time, we (Darling Buds/Dr. Bhatti) stayed away from this thread because we knew how Dr. Feller responds to anyone that has the nerve to disagree with him. We just cannot forget our professionalism and etiquettes and respond in kind. We have been extremely tolerant so far and were hoping that the multiple reprimands that Dr. Feller got from the Forum Admins (including deletion of one of his posts) would help.....but unfortunately, it has NOT.

 

I have yet to see an apology from Dr. Feller to all the Forum members that he has insulted and attacked (including Mickey85, of course).

 

Last but not the least......his "FUE bashing" views remind me of a very famous saying in Hindi (Indian).....Naach na jaane, aangan teda (If a person is not a good dancer, he tends to blame the floor for being uneven).

 

Thanks,

California

 

You are extremely thin skinned, and probably should bow out of this thread. It seems to have left you traumatized. Let the adults bicker amongst themselves, they seem perfectly capable of enduring the resulting indignities.

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Seth,

 

Thanks for the shout out!

 

I wanted to take this opportunity to share something that I've actually posted on the boards a few times before. Seems like a good time to kind of explain my position and and experience with these two procedures.

 

I think I have probably the most unique perspective on this entire "FUT versus FUE" debate because of my work in both the "online world" and "clinical world." For five years, I dealt with the online world of FUE. I answered countless questions about it on the forums; I wrote articles for HTN, HRN, the hair loss learning center, and Q&A blog about FUE; and I really thought I developed a solid understanding of the technique, what it could offer, and where it was headed. And what were my conclusions? I thought the same thing many other members think: FUE is "the future." I thought it was on par with strip and didn't think there were any obvious drawbacks or limitations. This is the persona of FUE online, and it's a powerful one. I was convinced. So much, in fact, that I was initially planning on starting an FUE only practice.

But then I had the opportunity to step out of the online world and into the real clinical world of surgical practice.

 

And here's what I saw:

 

First, I noticed that the post-FUE patients coming through the doors of the clinic were very, very different from what I saw online. And these were people who represented the entire spectrum of FUE patients. Guys who had went to the "top" FUE doctors in the world and those who had gone to technician FUE clinics. And I noticed two things: 1) the results were WILDLY variable. Completely different than what we see here. Some grew okay; others had almost no growth whatsoever; and I honestly never saw anything that I felt resembled a strip post-op. 2) the donor regions of these patients were "different." I couldn't really put my finger on it at the time, but I could almost always notice a general thinning and surgical appearance to the back of the scalp. Obviously I was looking for it, but it was there.

 

Then I was able to actually do both procedures ...

 

I find FUE procedures actually quite fun. There is definitely a learning curve with it, but it is satisfying to really sit down with very simple manual tools and do an FUE procedure. But let me share a few of my observations:

 

1) It is a very slow, gentle, methodical process. Anyone who tries to speed it up to these very rapid levels simply isn't doing the procedure justice. It was never meant for this. And watching these videos of it feels very wrong compared to what I've experienced in real life.

 

2) IT IS HELL ON THE GRAFTS! I'm actually pretty surprised that anyone could sit down and extract FUE grafts and claim they don't go through detrimental forces. Define them however you like. But they absolutely do exist, they are noticeable on each graft you extract, and they absolutely put way too much stress and strain on these tiny, fragile organs (follicles). And saying they can be overcome by little tricks isn't realistic either. The only way to REALLY get around them is to not remove grafts via traditional FUE. Period.

 

3) It's way, way harder to get good FUE grafts out of scalp that's been FUE'd before. The scalp is hardened, difficult to penetrate (even with simple anesthetic needles), and simply doesn't react the way it should. The tactile feedback you get with manual tools is ruined. It randomly collapses and causes immediate transection in some regions, and yet seems to still hold the grafts tighter and increase avulsion and tearing at the same time. The bottom line is that there are changes in the donor region and yield and quality suffers in these scalps.

 

4) During FUE days, I have this strange thought in the back of my mind all day. The grafts are out, they are inspected, and they, theoretically, look okay for implantation. Yet I still have one nagging thought all day: "are these things going to grow?" I can't stop thinking of everything I put those grafts through getting them out. I also think about how bent and skeletonized they looked before implantation, and I just have concern about the quality and quantity of the growth. I don't feel this way on strip days.

 

5) It's a completely blinded procedure. You have to continually test and re-test angles and depths, and even then you're still surprised a good number of times per day. This is why the tissue feedback one gets from going SLOWLY with MANUAL tools is so crucial. I honestly couldn't imagine working at a rate to remove 4,000 of these things in one session; nor would I ever want to take the tactile feedback away from myself with big motorized devices.

 

These issues are "night and day" compared to strip days. The grafts come out perfectly, they look great after microscopic dissection, they are placed in an appropriate time frame, and I feel awesome talking to these patients at the end of the day because I have every reason to believe they are going to grow great.

 

After existing in both these worlds, I can say a few things conclusively:

 

1) The perception of FUE online and the reality of what happens in the OR are two completely different worlds. I've lived in both, and I can honestly say the reality is worlds different than what you read online.

 

2) It's always going to come in behind FUT with respect to quality and quantity of growth. And there is really no controversial theories or debatable points as to why. Follicles are fragile organs; FUE puts them through hell and they are never going to grow as well because of it. There are reasons to go down this route, but saying they are equivalent and that all patients are candidates for FUE simply isn't a reality.

 

3) Pretending like decreased yield with FUE is the only issue at hand isn't correct. Some seem to think that you're just trading slightly lower yield for no strip scar and you can simply correct this by taking more grafts. This isn't true. FUE causes serious changes to the donor area and everything after a big FUE procedure in the donor is a big fat question mark. The last thing in the world I -- as the surgeon -- want is to put the patient in a position where the grafts don't grow but I've screwed up donor. Now this guy has no options. And shaving down to a 1 after this isn't as simple as it sounds either. I've seen this in person as well, and there is still a "surgical" appearance to the back of the scalp. Worse than a bad strip scar? No. But, again, it's an online myth that you can take 4,000 grafts out of the back and then buzz it down to a 1 without noticing the changes.

 

Now, I could go on for pages about all the other issues at hand. And I do understand that the scar and more invasive nature can be a concern for some patients. And I don't want to downplay this either. But these are my very unique observations as someone who was helped run the online world then transitioned into the real world and truly changed my opinion.

 

These are my honest thoughts. I know some may doubt my intentions or feel ulterior motives are at foot, but all I can do is share what I've observed openly and honestly. Take them as you will!

 

Hi Blake,

 

I understand what you are saying but I still don't get how clinics are able to book months in advance and get continuous wonderful results with only FUE. I think everyone agrees that the grafts are more delicate when extracted via FUE but if the chances of getting good results was 50/50 the outrage would be tremendous. I don't see how anyone could make a living on FUE alone. Very confusing.

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Dr. Bloxham I disagree with the last points you made, I believe you are referring to moth eaten FUE donor areas which are not the norm, as a matter of fact I don't believe that any FUE physician on this site has ever had a patient that had a moth eaten donor area, but you make it seem like it's quite normal which it's not, like Dr. Bhatti asked your partner to present actual cases of bad FUE scarring that aren't from a random Google image. The truth which is not as "sexy" is that the biggest differences between FUE and FUT done by reputable physicians is the linear scar and the yield. Granted there are some physicians on here who have had poor growth with FUE however there are also FUT physicians who have had patients scar expand and and stretch and patients have had less than desirable growth, so the truth which is not as sexy is that a

failed FUE= no growth

failed FUT= bad scar and low growth.

 

Again if you can present cases of recommended or we'll known physicians who have left patients with moth eaten donor area I will take back what I said.


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I don't think you have ulterior motives. I think that as a medical doctor you have to take an oath to always have the patient's best interest at the fore front of anything else. To say that you and dr feller are purposely misleading the community would be suggesting that you are sacrificing the oath you took for financial gain. I do not think that is the case with either of you. Dr. Feller is not very good at behaving amicallably when debating his thought process. I don't think many people would disagree with that. With that said, I don't think someone that has been a highly regarded surgeon in practice for 20 years would compromise his integrity. I think he's very passionate about his beliefs and isn't very good at communicating. Blake is very good at communicating, so hopefully you will both learn from each other. I have consulted with two doctors that are recommended by this site and by sponsor kobren. Both surgeons would not operate on me and one was even reluctant to prescribe me finasteride as they didn't see me as needing it. The reason this is significant is because it shows that although this is a for profit business, both surgeons took an oath and live by certain ethical criteria. There is no reason to believe dr feller and dr Blake (sorry don't know your last name) don't also have this ethical composition. Finally both surgeons that I saw practice FUE but said that the overwhelming majority of their cases were FUT as they agreed FUE does not produce the same quality of results. I think it's good that there is debate in anything, that's how you learn.

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Hi Blake

 

Can you explain how some patients go to a reputable fut Dr and have poor growth then go to a reputable fue Dr and get great growth? As from your above post I'd assume fut will always grow well and fue would rarely grow well? Your logic makes sense but I feel reality is different?

 

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Yea, but it's hard to see big picture through a mind clouded with trepidation.

 

It would have to be through an "arrangement". Have me randomly chloroformed, to wake up 3 days later with a mummied noggin and post-op details taped to my chest. Something along those lines. Don't tell me it's a go though, just dismiss this suggestion and discreetly set the wheels in motion.

 

For real though Doc, it would take a lot to get me into your chair...even though it might be the best course for me.

 

I get it. Believe me, I'm an HT patient, too. The thought of a strip surgery is REALLY what's driving the desire for FUE. Very few people are really concerned about hair style options afterward. And if FUE grew as well as FUT I'd be doing them. But it doesn't, so I don't.

 

So many patients who come to me for strip are anxious about the idea of it. You should see some of them in the morning of the procedure. Anxious and excited. But I tell them what's happening as we go along step by step and EVERYONE gets though it and says the same thing: "that's all it was? I didn't feel anything. Wasn't at all what I thought it would be."

It would no doubt be the same for you. When the time comes you'll know when to pull the trigger.

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Dr. Feller,

 

You might be a good FUT Surgeon but unfortunately you fall extremely short when it comes to basic courtesy, manners, politeness, professional etiquette, tolerance and human kindness. All through your "super star thread" that makes you "gloat" with pride, you have INSULTED folks that have "dared" to disagree with you. How dare you use the term "stupid mistake" for Dr. Bhatti and his Rep? Do you OWN this forum. Are you the "Supreme ruler" that can get away with anything and everything? Forum ADMINS, requesting you to take appropriate action. BUSA got kicked out for being rude.....can someone go over Dr. Feller's posts and put them through a "rudeness test".

 

Here is one example of Dr. Feller's insulting attacks that too on Mickey85, one of the biggest and most respected contributors on this Forum:

 

Mickey is simply an online bully and stalker. Also known in the parlance of the internet as a "Hater". He doesn't hate everybody, just those who disagree with him.

Sorry Mickey, but doctors are allowed to use this website and share their opinion unmolested by the likes of self appointed know nothing "experts" like yourself. I don't come on here to debate with the likes of you, although you hilariously think I do. I write to bring facts to newbies who don't know any better and might be influenced by you and your kind.

If you fancy yourself a consumer affairs expert and want to hold yourself out to the public as such, then stand accountable for

your words and offer your real name and address. (Post #123)

 

Ironically, recently Dr. Feller (after he realized that Mickey85 was quite knowledgeable in HT) for a change, complimented Mickey85 for his views!

 

Dr. Feller keeps on tooting his horn that "No FUE Surgeon has refuted this claims"....what he does NOT get is that NO ONE WANTS TO GET INSULTED BY HIM! How hard is that to understand? For the longest time, we (Darling Buds/Dr. Bhatti) stayed away from this thread because we knew how Dr. Feller responds to anyone that has the nerve to disagree with him. We just cannot forget our professionalism and etiquettes and respond in kind. We have been extremely tolerant so far and were hoping that the multiple reprimands that Dr. Feller got from the Forum Admins (including deletion of one of his posts) would help.....but unfortunately, it has NOT.

 

I have yet to see an apology from Dr. Feller to all the Forum members that he has insulted and attacked (including Mickey85, of course).

 

Last but not the least......his "FUE bashing" views remind me of a very famous saying in Hindi (Indian).....Naach na jaane, aangan teda (If a person is not a good dancer, he tends to blame the floor for being uneven).

 

Thanks,

California

 

Correct me if I'm wrong here. But wasn't it you and your doctor who falsely accused me of writing something I didn't? And when I challenged you to post my "offending" post you couldn't do it? But you continued to post as if I had until the moderator had to post the truth and stop you. Have you apologized for this yet? Nope.

 

I have insulted nobody. I have been attacked by you, your doctor, and many others and I have defended myself. Interesting how you cry for Mickey (even though he never asked you to) but when I'm attacked viciously by multiple people not a peep from you. Such a humanitarian and such false righteous indignation.

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I don't think you have ulterior motives. I think that as a medical doctor you have to take an oath to always have the patient's best interest at the fore front of anything else. To say that you and dr feller are purposely misleading the community would be suggesting that you are sacrificing the oath you took for financial gain. I do not think that is the case with either of you. Dr. Feller is not very good at behaving amicallably when debating his thought process. I don't think many people would disagree with that. With that said, I don't think someone that has been a highly regarded surgeon in practice for 20 years would compromise his integrity. I think he's very passionate about his beliefs and isn't very good at communicating. Blake is very good at communicating, so hopefully you will both learn from each other. I have consulted with two doctors that are recommended by this site and by sponsor kobren. Both surgeons would not operate on me and one was even reluctant to prescribe me finasteride as they didn't see me as needing it. The reason this is significant is because it shows that although this is a for profit business, both surgeons took an oath and live by certain ethical criteria. There is no reason to believe dr feller and dr Blake (sorry don't know your last name) don't also have this ethical composition. Finally both surgeons that I saw practice FUE but said that the overwhelming majority of their cases were FUT as they agreed FUE does not produce the same quality of results. I think it's good that there is debate in anything, that's how you learn.

 

Excellent post !

I want to mention that internet forum chat sites are ugly places. There are no exceptions. Just look at the very first post made by a viewer after my initial post that kicked off this thread. Nasty, isn't it? It's nothing but intimidation by someone who didn't agree with what I had to say. He couldn't discredit the words, so he went after me and my business personally. I have found being blunt, direct, and intolerant of evasive behavior keeps threads on track and reduces attempts by those who would try to intimidate me or hijack the thread. That's why this thread is such a success and has lasted so long. If I tried to be agreeable to everybody this would have turned into a milquetoast thread and died within a few days and a hundred views instead of over 50,000 as it stands today.

 

Your observations are very good. Keep them coming.

Thank you.

Dr. Feller

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Here's an analogy of how I view this thread

 

A ford car salesman makes an announcement that ford is the best automobile, said car salesman states ford has the best gas mileage thus you will be able to travel more miles for less money. Said car salesman explains that Chevy vehicles have much higher gas mileage therefore you will travel half the distance with the exact amount of money, he gives specific reasons why this occurs engine displacement etc.

 

Chevy car salesman enters the announcement and explains that many of his Chevy vehicles are able to travel the same distance with comparable gas mileage.

Ford car salesman attacks Chevy car salesmans vehicles and dealership.

 

Spectators ask ford car salesman why Fords have a history of faulty paint that chip in the sun, spectators ask why there have been cases of fords denting heavily to the point of being totaled.

 

Ford salesman dismisses spectators as peanuts in a peanut gallery, ford salesman states these questions are a distraction to the gas mileage. Ford salesman goes on to state he himself owns a ford and loves it, spectators ask why some Chevy dealers provide proof that Chevys have in fact traveled comparable distances with comparable gas mileage and with no paint or denting issues, Ford car salesman dismisses claims stating ford would get better gas mileage and that the paint can be covered with a tarp.

 

Ford car salesman remains adamant that the gas mileage is the single most important aspect of a car, dents and paint issues don't matter cause they can be covered with tarps.

 

Spectators ask if a Chevy can travel reasonably close distances with around the same money and the paint and body doesn't dent wouldn't it be a better vehicle?

 

Ford car saleman gets angry states buy a Chevy see if I care it's your wallet not mine.

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I've always said Dr Feller is more than entitled to defend his business and hair transplant philosophy OK his tone may come across as a bit brash but he has been attacked in a nasty way as well ,I'll say it again he's the only Dr to give the whole story about mega FUE sessions

and the potential damage that can be done, we as patients need both side of the story then at least we can make an informed decision .

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Everyone is on this thread because it's like a circus show right? I never seen doctors argue it's funny,lot of big words had to get a dictionary. It's unfortunate I don't really remember anything else about this thread,entertaining though.

 

This thread is a bit of a circus. And there is much mud-slinging, ego-clashing and questioning of motives. But what keeps most reasonable people reading it (aside from entertainment, of which there is much more and better on the Internet), is that facts remain facts. There is enough argument and debate about the objective facts that it's useful for anyone considering a HT, especially if they're keeping an open-mind on what it is they can realistically anticipate as a long term outcome.

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Little to no facts have been presented, everything thus far has been opinion scientifically speaking, there hasn't been any recent studies comparing FUT vs FUE yield, there have been studies conducted by FUE physicians that show 96 out of 100 grafts grew, but there haven't been any third party studies with no monetary incentive, a lot of you guys blindly follow physicians words without even questioning things. For example FUT lifetime grafts vs FUE lifetime grafts, this subject is ridiculously flawed because we are presuming that everybody has the same safe donor area, which is FALSE my safe donor zone is not the same as the next guys therefore how could we say that just because grafts were extracted from patient A "universal" area that he will have more lifetime grafts to patient b. We are not taking in to account the different variables that exist, for example lets say patient A was to be a Norwood 7 the most extreme case, not only will the supposed lifetime grafts thin, but the donor area will to exposing a big scar so much for "lifetime" grafts, now let's examine patient B let's say he's a 50 year old gentleman Norwood 3 destined to die Norwood 4 and grafts are extracted slightly higher than the universal zone, those grafts will not fall out because the grafts were extracted from his PERSONAL safe zone, key word. It's not a cookie cutter procedure a one size fits all, cmon guys use some critical thinking, I want a plan designed specifically for me and my hairloss not a general plan for everybody, because people react differently to the male pattern balding gene, that's why some men never bald more than a Norwood 3 and some men bald to a Norwood 7 and beyond.


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However what will happen is that FUE will get more and more popular until FUT will slowly die out. This is already happening in full speed. People just don't want the scar and will even happily sacrifice some yield for that ;).

 

Whether FUE is going to win in terms of popularity is a different question from which is going to give you a better result. Britney Spears may be more popular than Beethoven, so are we to accept...?

 

As for people preferring scar vs yield, it may be true for you, and many people, but it may not be true for everybody. A guy who doesn't cut very short and wants to cover a substantial area may well choose FUT. Personally, I think the debate over which is more "popular" is irrelevant, but here we are.

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You are extremely thin skinned, and probably should bow out of this thread. It seems to have left you traumatized. Let the adults bicker amongst themselves, they seem perfectly capable of enduring the resulting indignities.

 

Very well said! This debate is already heated up. If you want you may bow out!

I guess moderators are regularly monitoring this thread they are doing their job

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What you don't get, Seth, is there is no debate here. I KNOW the problems of FUE because i've been doing them for 14 years. I'm just very honest and open about it's shortcomings. FUT also has it's shortcomings, and I've written about them for years. But FUT has less than 5% of the shortcomings of FUE and is why it's still king and will remain king until those three detrimental forces of FUE are reduced or eliminated. That is the reality, the rest is just fluff.

 

yes that 5% is what YOU refer to as the X factor, addressing the X factor is something you or any FUT will ever be able to do, its a gamble, its not full proof, high risk, with a massive life long scar to go along with you for life. just like your 22cm scar.

 

How is that 22cm long scar going for you these days Dr Feller,

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dr feller practices FUE in his own practice and has for 14 years according to him. Dr feller has also practiced FUT for something like 20 years. Why would dr feller, at the risk of becoming unpopular, say something he doesn't believe to be true? It's not like he gets a royalty every time a FUT procedure is performed and thus would have an interest against FUE. Dr. Feller is quite obviously passionate about what he believes is the best way of transplanting hair. This is his opinion. He is telling the community what he feels is in the best interest of the patient. Maybe instead of vilifying him, we should applaud him for educating us about the realities of hair transplantation. I don't think it's necessarily wise for him to say some of the things he has said to people in this community, but that is his choice. As patients, we don't have to be concerned with the success of his practice. Dr feller and now dr Blake burden those concerns. I honestly believe dr feller has good intentions. I am not affiliated with him in any way. I just think people are losing focus of the issues and sort of attacking him for simply providing his data. Maybe his data conflicts with a different surgeons, so what? He is still providing his information to us for free. No one has to take it, and it is probably wise to get numerous opinions with anything medically related. This has been a great community for a long time, in large part because people share information. I don't see how this is any different.

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Disphair the essence of what you say is true, but if you review his comments, you will see he also purports to speak on behalf of all hair transplant doctors. Dr Feller speaks in absolutes and without qualification, his position is gospel. He certainly speaks from a position of authority, but in my view he presents facts as universal truths as if his experience / results with FUE are the same as all other FUE docs. This is an unfair presumption for him to make.

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. I honestly believe dr feller has good intentions.

 

I don't, I suspect he feels that the expansion of FUE globally is a major concern for his own practice and will resort to scaremongering potential patience into his Godly view points to get money in the bank. 2009 he was pushing all FUT Dr to get on board the FUE train and now he is doing a back flip on his own words, what are we suppose to believe, did he lie back then or is he lying now.

 

what that says he is that he actually lies, all trust gone in opinion.

 

he has said no FUE advancement in 14years, so in 2009 when he was praising FUE nothing has changed, but in 2015 its the complete opposite. why?

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Little to no facts have been presented, everything thus far has been opinion scientifically...

 

The lack of evidence is also a fact. And that's probably what's kept some of us away from the surgeon's chair thus far.

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dr feller practices FUE in his own practice and has for 14 years according to him. Dr feller has also practiced FUT for something like 20 years. Why would dr feller, at the risk of becoming unpopular, say something he doesn't believe to be true? It's not like he gets a royalty every time a FUT procedure is performed and thus would have an interest against FUE. Dr. Feller is quite obviously passionate about what he believes is the best way of transplanting hair. This is his opinion. He is telling the community what he feels is in the best interest of the patient. Maybe instead of vilifying him, we should applaud him for educating us about the realities of hair transplantation. I don't think it's necessarily wise for him to say some of the things he has said to people in this community, but that is his choice. As patients, we don't have to be concerned with the success of his practice. Dr feller and now dr Blake burden those concerns. I honestly believe dr feller has good intentions. I am not affiliated with him in any way. I just think people are losing focus of the issues and sort of attacking him for simply providing his data. Maybe his data conflicts with a different surgeons, so what? He is still providing his information to us for free. No one has to take it, and it is probably wise to get numerous opinions with anything medically related. This has been a great community for a long time, in large part because people share information. I don't see how this is any different.

 

Sharing information and opinions are great. We all have them and we all have our rights to share them. However, to state opinions as facts without any proof, and then to insult and attack those that disagree with the unproven facts BECAUSE they are unproven is another story altogether. As medical professionals, if we make statements of fact, we must prove them to be true. Dr. Feller has not done this and every time the scientific method is mentioned, which is the underlying basis for every high school level science paper, he simply ignores it. Why?

 

The answer is simple. He knows that this is his opinion and more so he knows he cannot prove his claims. Further, two weeks before this thread was started Dr. Blake opened a new thread:

 

"INTRODUCING: Modified FUE (mFUE)"

 

In this thread the "new" procedure known as "mFUE" miraculously gives "FUE type scarring with FUT type yield". But throughout this entire thread, that Dr. Feller has boasted has so many views to validate his claims, he has been villifying FUE scarring as being so absolutely horrendous that we are all fools with "learning disabilities" for not understanding the level of damage it is causing. How ironic, and convenient at the same time, that the very thing that he says is so detrimental about FUE is 1/2 of the strength of his new procedure called "mFUE"! What's unusual is that Dr. Feller did not make a single post in the thread "introducing" mFUE. The thread formation and all posts for 18 pages were left up to his partners Dr. Blake and Dr. Lindsey.

 

Dr. Feller was resigned to being the bulldog in this thread instead. The insults, the grandstanding, and the twisting of words all lead up to one very obvious strategy.

 

Attack and discredit FUE and those that specialize in it with UNSUBSTANTIATED claims that fly in the face of the scientific method while offering the solution to the problem at the same time.

DISPhair said " It's not like he (Dr. Feller) gets a royalty every time a FUT procedure is performed and thus would have an interest against FUE." That is because nothing about FUT is patented but...

 

"As far as presenting mFUE, while Dr. Bloxham made a presentation with some very broad strokes online, there are some aspects that we still can't discuss yet as it will interfere with the patent process.

 

Dr. Feller"

 

Two plus two equals four. It is my opinion, and the evidence supports my opinion, that this is a valiant but thin effort to develop business for mFUE. Claims about FUE and the three detrimental forces being so detrimental are not proven and all we have is discussion and any non-believers have "learning disabilities".

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Dr Tejinder Bhatti

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