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If someone is suggesting N7 that could be a projection of where he winds up, not where he is at now. Which is an important distinction when planning surgery, knowing the hair loss end point.

Any update Drew?

Why wait that long? Do you suggest that returning 12 months out would negate the work from the first transplant? I'm not sure what you mean. If I had to guess, if there is growth to still occur past 12 months then having a second HT now wouldn't interrupt the schedule of the grafts from the first one starting to grow on the crown.

There's more density at the 4 month point.

Great result

Hi Javed, please post updates down the road so that we can see how this HT turned out, whether for good or bad. I hope this was one of the better Turkey clinics, as some people have not been getting the results they have been expecting. In my case hair grafts were counted during extraction. I didn't see it as I was being operated on but I could hear a foot pedal being pressed for each one removed. The device had a numeric display to tally the number. If you are having shedding eight weeks out, I don't think that is the normal process of the transplanted hairs falling out after surgery. From reading other testimonies and from my own experience most transplanted hairs are released from the embedded graft about 10-14 days after the surgery. Eight weeks out points to something else. For other readers - is shock loss still possible at this point, two months after surgery? If it was going to happen I'd think it would be sooner. What is really concerning is the presence of dandruff from the first photo. Was that happening as you entered your surgery? Or did you take that photo long before and the dandruff went away by then? One thing that can hurt your yield is if your scalp skin is irritated. A doctor should be directing you to use effective dandruff control shampoo to clear it up before you even reach the clinic.

If you ever shave down your head it would be easier to figure out where you are, in terms of density and miniaturization of hairs in the crown.

Between my last two HT's I would use this product sporadically. The last time, using it a few days in a row, this coincided with a period of weeks where my scalp became irritated and itchy. I'd scratch and have dandruff fall out. The timing could be a coincidence, but HTs and hair growth don't go good together. Best to do what you can until your results are in. My surgeon specified not using any hair colouring for a year.

I don't see him getting hardly any density covering that much hair loss with 3k grafts.

If only wearing actual crowns were still fashionable for men then it would be easier to cover up bald spots back there.

I had upper and lower arm hair used to put into my thinning nape hairline:

If you are willing to travel some options are listed here:

You're actually at a good point where hair concealers would work for you. Your hair is thinning but not gone. Look up Toppik and Dermmatch online. It could help you give the appearance of more hair until you decide to go for surgery.

With your hair loss progression, plan carefully Dello. There's not a lot of donor and if you use it up in a bad transplant you can never get it back. Using meds will buy you time.

Obviously you would know better than the rest of us, but I am surprised, given that you are not a Pakistani resident. India has a large muslim population with people of the same background as you who travel in and out. If you ever need to go there to do surgery hopefully you can find a way.

I did an inquiry and I was informed, no, the only "body" hair for transplantation was beard. Actual body grafts success rate, and I quote, "was too low" otherwise. Westview's information lines up with mine. To add, I wasn't trying to receive a consultation, just inquiring about pricing but was required to first send in photos. By the end of this process I still was not given a rate. From what I can tell this clinic does not yet do much if at all body grafts from below the head, so I would not call them a body hair transplant clinic, the topic of this thread. Beard and scalp graft work looks great though.

6 Months Post Op 5th HT: Been continuing to grow out the hair.

There are faint light dots on the chest where the FUE grafts were taken from. Not much noticeable on my beard when I shave. My skin is sensitive so I don't tend to shave my face to the nub and what stubble is left after shaving tends to obscure the presence of any old FUE graft points. I had some grafts taken from my arm and unless I look real close I don't see any markings. When body hairs are taken it's done diffusely most of the surrounding hairs remain and cover the area.

This is a point that I have heard as well. You can use medication for hair loss but eventually the progression will occur, it will never freeze it permanently. So a good doctor will only provide a transplant that you can live with if you never come back to have more work done. That's why the first one should have in mind what your future hair loss will look like and design to that and be conservative. That way the problem described by the OP won't occur. And I'll echo Melvin's sentiment - I don't think people like the one who started the thread should be looking to get transplantation done. These surgeries are for people with more realistic expectations and can anticipate what the results will look like long term.

I've seen this video result before. Off topic to the question at hand, but I wanted to put out there that this looks overdone. If this was meant to sell me on the SMP procedure I would pass because it looks too unrealistic. The hard density makes me look twice and question it. If I were to go for this it would have to be more moderate. The results that I have been interested in tracking are "long hair SMP" if you look on Google's image results. That shows what it can look like if you get inked within areas of existing hairs to camouflage it better. Shaving the head down and going with a zero balding look is hard to pull off, especially for older men. Here's a before and after when using SMP with real hair:

My transplanted hairs from five years ago are still in place.

The purpose of this thread and the updates through the years is to provide information to someone like myself when I began this process. Like you say, the photos are for reference. Two things stand out. There was very little in the way of people online giving much credibility to a hair transplantation process to use a fair percentage of body hairs for the overall result. I think I began reading here over ten years ago. This is probably for good reason in that even still there is not a lot of information on what this type of HT looks like or how effective it is. I've seen many people err on the side of caution. But that caution would have resulted in me going with an aweful shaved head look for the rest of my life. The hair loss was advancing towards it's end point. The other thing has been a lack of results from clinics demonstrating BHT. Where to go, if this is what you are looking for? Back when Turkey was a thing I could not find anyone who would take me on. I didn't get anywhere with some of the clinics in India the proport to do this type of surgery as well. The one consistent thing has been the Derm Hair clinic in the US that has experience and the custom tool to successfully extract these harder to transplant grafts and have them survive. What is the point of rolling the dice on other places that will give it a shot but have most of the body hairs not grow out on the scalp? I'm hoping other people who have this work done on them at other clinics share their results as well. Umar has done a lot of work on HT repair cases necessitating non-scalp grafts, and this has driven the design process on a type of punch that can get hairs that are angled in tight and preserves the root of the graft. Hopefully other places will pick this up as well, as the UGraft Zeus system is now being marketed for other surgeons. I feel fortunate that I will achieve a result I am happy with but I know that someone like myself will have little in the way of information to point them in similar directions if they are starting out.

5 Months Post Op 5th HT: Quick update. Been growing the hair out a bit longer. Not expecting the grafts from the back or arms to really start growing until about the 12 month mark.