Dr Zarev 11,941 grafts. 1st procedure 8,321, 2nd procedure 3,620

[general-etwan]

On 10/31/2023 at 11:26 AM, Melvin- Admin said:

This is exactly how it should be on a Norwood 6, the borders of the safe zone should BE harvested, and the border should BE grafted. This way there’s no gap. 

 

In many ways, Zarev is ahead of his time. A lot of doctors shy away from this to be safe, but I don’t agree. The final result looks better with the gaps being filled.

In my case, the hair below the border has always been my strongest and healthiest hair. It’s been 10 years since my first HT and the hair is still the strongest and thickest. 

Makes me worry about the gap I have on my situation at the back. I am trying to analyze up close to compare exactly mine to this case. It seems like on me, Eugenix filled in pretty much down to the bottom of the "bald" area but did not harvest the upper 1 cm of donor hair on the border.

[Melvin- Admin]

7 minutes ago, general-etwan said:

Makes me worry about the gap I have on my situation at the back. I am trying to analyze up close to compare exactly mine to this case. It seems like on me, Eugenix filled in pretty much down to the bottom of the "bald" area but did not harvest the upper 1 cm of donor hair on the border.

@mtb

Sorry for de-railing your thread. But I do believe it’s a good discussion. Let me know if you don’t want it on your thread.

 

@general-etwan

In your case, it looks like Eugenix shaved down to the thinning area. They didn’t harvest from the upper temporal region, most likely because it didn’t have the best hair. Looks like fine hair better suited for the hairline. They grafted the thickest most robust area. 

[general-etwan]

15 minutes ago, Melvin- Admin said:

@mtb

Sorry for de-railing your thread. But I do believe it’s a good discussion. Let me know if you don’t want it on your thread.

 

@general-etwan

In your case, it looks like Eugenix shaved down to the thinning area. They didn’t harvest from the upper temporal region, most likely because it didn’t have the best hair. Looks like fine hair better suited for the hairline. They grafted the thickest most robust area. 

Yeah, I didn't want to just suddenly derail the excellent thread here with a picture, so figured let Melvin do it first! lol

In all seriousness, yeah, hopefully he doesn't mind. Will try to be brief with this; just thought it could be useful comparison. Here's a better pic of my crown after my surgery. I feel like Zarev would have harvested another cm up in the back and just gone a little lower with the implantation. Dr. Sethi explained to me that his vision is he didn't want to implant lower because of risk of causing damage to the remaining hair. But I feel like that small ring of white was pretty much already bald, and Zarev probably would have gone right up to the boundary of dark donor hair starting.

Oh well, for me it's a constant analysis of how I can maximize my situation.

 

 

 

 

[MC117]

There is also a possibility that eugenix thinks you'll lose that side hump in the coming years so nothing to harvest from an already weak area.
Even in mtb case the really top of humps have been untouched. 

[general-etwan]

14 minutes ago, MC117 said:

There is also a possibility that eugenix thinks you'll lose that side hump in the coming years so nothing to harvest from an already weak area.
Even in mtb case the really top of humps have been untouched. 

Yeah, understandable. Let’s do talk more about my case comparison on my thread; I don’t want to clutter @mtb’s thread. Will be watching this one closely!

[mtb]

@Melvin- Admin It’s all good. Whatever helps @general-etwan and the community. Dr Sethi and Dr Zarev may have different thought on what the end pattern of your baldness will be. Is Dr Sethi open to making changes as you request?

 

@Melvin- Admin can you please change the name of this thread? “Dr Zarev 11,941 grafts. 1st procedure 8,321, 2nd procedure 3,620.”

[mtb]

10 days post op donor and real life pics. No pain almost at all the whole time except when I’d accidentally bump my head. I’ve completed all meds and no longer need to use the antibacterial soap. Starting his minox and .1 mg topical fin today. Swelling was much less than first procedure and gone after 5/6 days. Will post Dr Zarev’s office pics when he sends. I’m guessing 4-5 months until everything he implanted comes through really strong, based off of first procedure. 
 

 

[Melvin- Admin]

I actually think this hairstyle looks better 👍🏼really clean work.

[Berba11]

In another week the donor area will probably look completely untouched despite 12K grafts extracted. Dr Z's extractions are insane.

[general-etwan]

Absolutely amazing. This uniform extraction strategy looks so clean. I think the length you have your hair at right now is really good too. I know I recently got a shorter cut (my barber insisted) but I kind of regret it as I think we need to have our hair the length you do right now and longer to maximize the looks. 

[hairman22]

On 11/5/2023 at 4:58 PM, mtb said:

10 days post op donor and real life pics. No pain almost at all the whole time except when I’d accidentally bump my head. I’ve completed all meds and no longer need to use the antibacterial soap. Starting his minox and .1 mg topical fin today. Swelling was much less than first procedure and gone after 5/6 days. Will post Dr Zarev’s office pics when he sends. I’m guessing 4-5 months until everything he implanted comes through really strong, based off of first procedure. 
 

 

Its great u don't have to shave

Can enjoy the 1st result while wait for more density

I'm for sure going for the no shave approach

[consequence]

I'm not sure if you answered this already but did Zarev do all of the implantation and extraction himself? With the size I'm assuming extraction at least was techs?

[Gatsby]

@mtb this is going to be a crazy result! Already does look the real deal with the buzzed down sides and back! 👌

[mtb]

6 hours ago, consequence said:

I'm not sure if you answered this already but did Zarev do all of the implantation and extraction himself? With the size I'm assuming extraction at least was techs?

@consequence  He does hair cutting, hair washing, microcamera pictures, regular camera photos, hairline planning, extraction and placement planning, disinfectant/sterilization, anesthesia, PRP injections, follicle extractions and follicle placements. 

His nurses do the blood tests and PRP extraction as well as the sorting of extracted grafts and the loading of the implanter pens.

 

5 hours ago, Gatsby said:

@mtb this is going to be a crazy result! Already does look the real deal with the buzzed down sides and back! 👌

@Gatsby Thanks. I'm pretty happy thus far. I'm hoping for a great result.

[MC117]

Zarev doing everything by himself from A to Z, legend ! 😎

[Steeeve]

This is CLEAN!!

[HugoX]

12 hours ago, consequence said:

I'm not sure if you answered this already but did Zarev do all of the implantation and extraction himself? With the size I'm assuming extraction at least was techs?

Dr Zarev does all the work himself, extraction and implant. No technician allowed to touch patients head. And then as mentioned by mtb literally everything else 

Edited November 9, 2023 by HugoX

[mtb]

Dr Zarev sent me the photos he took. He sent 470 photos. Lol. I’ll just post a few here in case any cares to see. They are pre op, pre op shaved, and post op with freshly washed scalp.

I did have folliculitis with two grafts next to each other. It resolved after a few days with warm compress, rolling with q-tip, and a topical antibiotic  

 

 

[Samson1]

Christ your donor looks phenomenal shave down with 8k grafts extracted, absolutely nuts!

All the best with the outcome of this surgery mate, should be another amazing result.

Btw the  shaved back and sides with beard combo is badass, you look like you could play a Jarl in Vikings or something😀

[mtb]

2 hours ago, Samson1 said:

Christ your donor looks phenomenal shave down with 8k grafts extracted, absolutely nuts!

All the best with the outcome of this surgery mate, should be another amazing result.

Btw the  shaved back and sides with beard combo is badass, you look like you could play a Jarl in Vikings or something😀

Ha ha. Thanks. The shaved sides and back are growing on me. 
 

It looks pretty good still after 12k grafts extracted. I’ll post my 1 months photos in a couple weeks. 

[mtb]

2 hours ago, Samson1 said:

Christ your donor looks phenomenal shave down with 8k grafts extracted, absolutely nuts!

All the best with the outcome of this surgery mate, should be another amazing result.

Btw the  shaved back and sides with beard combo is badass, you look like you could play a Jarl in Vikings or something😀

Ha ha. Thanks. The shaved sides and back are growing on me. 
 

It looks pretty good still after 12k grafts extracted. I’ll post my 1 months photos in a couple weeks. 

[jakos]

happy for you man!

it's crazy how little scarring Zarev inflicts to the donor area. i think this is what distinguishes him from the rest, due to that vacuum technology utilized. 

if his extractions left as significant scars as the rest of the industry, i believe he wouldn't be able to extract without damage from conventionally not so safe areas. 

 

[Melvin- Admin]

@mtb You’ve joined legendary status with @HugoX 🙌🏼

[Fue3361]

This is stupidly good work.

I've seen enough, for me, Zarev is easily #1 in the world for high norwoods.  Everyone else has to fight for 2nd place.

[DavidSheer]

On 11/5/2023 at 5:58 PM, mtb said:

10 days post op donor and real life pics. No pain almost at all the whole time except when I’d accidentally bump my head. I’ve completed all meds and no longer need to use the antibacterial soap. Starting his minox and .1 mg topical fin today. Swelling was much less than first procedure and gone after 5/6 days. Will post Dr Zarev’s office pics when he sends. I’m guessing 4-5 months until everything he implanted comes through really strong, based off of first procedure. 
 

 

Your donor region looks really nice at only 10 days post op. Incredible actually! This is very clean work.