Advice on surgeon - Dr Reddy, Dr Bicer or Eugenix?

[Jaz159]

Hey everyone,

I’m a long time lurker on this forum and was hoping to get some opinions on potential options. I’d like to be quite careful/ selective about who I go with for surgery and so location isn’t a factor. To an extent cost isn’t either, although value for money is important to me.

I have narrowed my options down to Dr Reddy in the UK, Dr Bicer in Turkey or Eugenix where I’d go with the super premium package and have Dr Arika Bansal perform the surgery.

Im now 31 and I’ve previously had a surgery with Dr Reddy in the front corners of my hairline. That was in 2011 and the surgery went great. Finasteride and minoxidil has slowed my hair loss, but hasn’t completely stopped it and I think I’m probably going to hit NW5 in my lifetime so need to factor that in.

I would like to completely restore the front half of my head for now, whilst having enough in the bank for later surgeries in the crown (which doesn’t bother me as much as losing hair in the front). To do the frontal portion only, I’ve had quotes of between 1200- 3000 grafts. 

I personally don’t think 1200 grafts is enough but I know the Dr usually tries to do more with less. I think for the front I should be closer to the 2500 grafts mark, but I’m no expert!

I’d really appreciate some of your opinions on grafts numbers and any of the doctors I have mentioned or even some that I may have missed.

Thanks for your help,

Jaz
 

 

 

 

[Ajamilo]

Without a doubt eugenix. High norwood and also that is the type of hair Eugenix are expert in.

[Jaz159]

53 minutes ago, Ajamilo said:

Without a doubt eugenix. High norwood and also that is the type of hair Eugenix are expert in.

Hey Ajamilo,

Thanks for replying. Yea they seem to do really well with high Norwood cases and have treated many Indian patients by virtue of their location, so May deal with my hair type better.

I’d be keen to get a view from @Melvin- Moderator.

Edited April 20, 2022 by Jaz159

[Fue3361]

I agree on Eugenix

[TommyLucchese]

If you are able to pull the trigger on the best Eugenix package, I think it's a no brainer. 

[Jaz159]

47 minutes ago, TommyLucchese said:

If you are able to pull the trigger on the best Eugenix package, I think it's a no brainer. 

Yea I’ve just had a chat with them and would only look at the top package with Dr Arika for this. 

[Zoomster]

Hi Jaz ..i take it you’re an Alfa fan with the “ 159 “ in handle 😊

Your hair looks remarkably similar to mine in how it lies on the scalp ..

I think Victor Hasson described it best when he said ive “ Tennis ball “ hair type when I consulted many years ago.:..I’d a really good outcome with the aforementioned Clinic @Eugenix Hair Science..have a peek at my thread .

Good luck with whoever you choose 😊

[Navthedon]

to cover up all of that together with a good hairline you're looking at 4000 grafts min

Edited April 21, 2022 by Navthedon

[Gatsby]

15 hours ago, Ajamilo said:

Without a doubt eugenix. High norwood and also that is the type of hair Eugenix are expert in.

This ^ Plus if your willing to donate your beard as a donor source then I believe you could accomplish your goals.

[Jaz159]

13 hours ago, Zoomster said:

Hi Jaz ..i take it you’re an Alfa fan with the “ 159 “ in handle 😊

Your hair looks remarkably similar to mine in how it lies on the scalp ..

I think Victor Hasson described it best when he said ive “ Tennis ball “ hair type when I consulted many years ago.:..I’d a really good outcome with the aforementioned Clinic @Eugenix Hair Science..have a peek at my thread .

Good luck with whoever you choose 😊

Haha Indeed I am! 
 

Thanks for the reply Zoomster. Your transformation is incredible and one of the reasons I am considering Eugenix as a high Norwood specialist. They have done a fantastic job with yours. Did you have a particularly good donor area compared to the average person?

Also did you got to the Gurgaon clinic with Dr Arika?

[Jaz159]

6 hours ago, Gatsby said:

This ^ Plus if your willing to donate your beard as a donor source then I believe you could accomplish your goals.

Thanks Gatsby. I’ve taken a look at your thread and it looks like you’re in for a good result too. Looking forward to seeing it.

Yes I’d donate all of my beard hair to get a good result on the top of my head. As much as they’d like to take!

[Noor Vertex Hair Clinic]

Hi @Jaz159

This is Noor, working for @DrTBarghouthi

I tagged Dr Taleb so he could give you an advice regarding your case.

 

Kind regards,

Noor

[Zoomster]

1 hour ago, Jaz159 said:

Haha Indeed I am! 
 

Thanks for the reply Zoomster. Your transformation is incredible and one of the reasons I am considering Eugenix as a high Norwood specialist. They have done a fantastic job with yours. Did you have a particularly good donor area compared to the average person?

Also did you got to the Gurgaon clinic with Dr Arika?

You’ve great taste so …think a black 159 Ti sportwagon one of the coolest pound for pound designs ever imo😊think Pininfarina had a hand in its design??

My donor was slightly below average with retrograde alopecia therefore the taking of finasteride was a non negotiable for me ..luckily no sides to report at 1mg every night .

With below average donor I would not of proceeded with surgery without the use of beard grafts ..luckily I found the best in the business regarding their utilization for HT .

Yes I went with Dr Sethi in Delhi on both occasions .

[MachoVato]

I disagree that Eugenix is the best option for high norwoods. Every good doctor can give you full coverage in 3 transplants. I'd consider Dr. Zarev over Eugenix for mega sessions, for sure.

For your 3 options, go to Bicer. You need to prepare for at least 2 more transplants, though. For your front, my guess is 2500 - 3000 grafts, no crown.

[Jaz159]

1 hour ago, MachoVato said:

I disagree that Eugenix is the best option for high norwoods. Every good doctor can give you full coverage in 3 transplants. I'd consider Dr. Zarev over Eugenix for mega sessions, for sure.

For your 3 options, go to Bicer. You need to prepare for at least 2 more transplants, though. For your front, my guess is 2500 - 3000 grafts, no crown.

Thank you for the info. I’d never heard of Dr Zarev before but his results look incredible. He seems quite highly regarded in the industry as well.

[MachoVato]

9 minutes ago, Jaz159 said:

Thank you for the info. I’d never heard of Dr Zarev before but his results look incredible. He seems quite highly regarded in the industry as well.

His website has many patient cases, each with many photos. And they look great. Especially donor management! He uses some type of vacuum-assisted extraction that minimizes the scar. Probably the best post-op donor areas I've ever seen. 

[DrTBarghouthi]

I do believe that in your case (area, hair type etc) you would be looking at around 3500-4000 grafts and beard hair will most likely be needed. You may well go for a smaller number but the coverage area will have to be slightly smaller. I would highly recommend staying away from the crown considering your age and the fact you had previous surgery already. Best of luck in your research. 

[Eugenix Hair Sciences]

Please feel free to put across all of your doubts with us. We would be honored to have you as our patient.

[Jaz159]

On 4/21/2022 at 5:05 PM, MachoVato said:

His website has many patient cases, each with many photos. And they look great. Especially donor management! He uses some type of vacuum-assisted extraction that minimizes the scar. Probably the best post-op donor areas I've ever seen. 

Agreed I’ve been doing some research and his results are incredible. Not a lot of patient cases on here though, which is the true test in my opinion. Will be good to see results from his patients as more people hear of him. I heard he’s moving to a new clinic and expanding his coordination team so this may help.

[Jaz159]

On 4/21/2022 at 11:50 PM, DrTBarghouthi said:

I do believe that in your case (area, hair type etc) you would be looking at around 3500-4000 grafts and beard hair will most likely be needed. You may well go for a smaller number but the coverage area will have to be slightly smaller. I would highly recommend staying away from the crown considering your age and the fact you had previous surgery already. Best of luck in your research. 

Thanks Dr Taleb. Yes I hope 4000 would cover it. I am less concerned about the crown for now and would only focus on the front half of my head as this is what I see and therefore what bothers me most. I am comfortable using Fibres in the crown until I am slightly older.

[Jaz159]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for your advice so far.

At the advice from my doctor I added dutasteride to my hair loss regimen over the last 8 months (already on finasteride and minoxidil). Unsure if it’s made a difference to re growth, stabilised or not made any difference. Would appreciate your thoughts.

Also I visited a few clinics in Turkey when I was last there on holiday. Really happy to have booked in for 3800 grafts with Dr Bicer on the 2nd of October this year. 

Latest pics below with grade 1 on the sides.