EMERGENCY HELP: Dr Bicer recommends I postpone my last minute surgery for next week

[HappyMan2021]

19 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

This sounds like bro science. 

Whats the bro science part? Show me the science where smoking weed within 3 months of surgery will have an adverse effect. 

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by SadMan2021

[MachoVato]

3 hours ago, SadMan2021 said:

Whats the bro science part? Show me the science where smoking weed within 3 months of surgery will have an adverse effect. 

 

Yeah, here's another doctor's reply. Sustain 1 week before, and 2 weeks after. Ok, that I can accept.

The other doctors use the qualifier "smoking *could* negatively impact" blah blah.

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Melvin- Moderator
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[Melvin- Admin]

51 minutes ago, SadMan2021 said:

Whats the bro science part? Show me the science where smoking weed within 3 months of surgery will have an adverse effect. 

 

Smoking cigarettes bad, but weed is okay. That’s bro science. Smoking is smoking regardless. 

[MachoVato]

18 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Smoking cigarettes bad, but weed is okay. That’s bro science. Smoking is smoking regardless. 

That's not true. In context of hair transplants, it is the nicotine that is the issue, since it is a vasoconstrictor. Cigarettes have nicotine in it. Weed doesn't.

[Gokuhairline]

lol am in a science class...look at all these smoking experts/ weed wizards...just dont smoke period. drink a lot of water, keep alcohol intake to a minimum , stress low, nizoral, and watch how your hair grows wonders. 

 

[HappyMan2021]

18 minutes ago, Gokuhairline said:

look at all these smoking experts/ weed wizards

I appreciate the compliment 

[Fabulous]

My humble opinion is that all the doctors will ask you to meet certain requirements in order to maximize the chance of a successful procedure. In case you meet all of them maybe you have 80-90 success chance, based on the doctor's skills. If not, depending on what you didn't comply, your chances decrease. Not being on medication might decrease your chance with 50% while smoking with 5-10%. In some cases those 5-10% might make the difference, so I think it's better to do everything in your power to maximize that chance. Also, think how would you feel if the transplant will fail, even though it wasn't because of smoking..probably you'll blame yourself a lot.

[Legend007]

I think she is being overly cautious.. I smoked before and after my hair transplant .. weed , cigs n achohol. I didn’t stop ,, but I did cut it down to only when necessary if I was in need of a cig , weed or Alcohol.. 

but that’s my own experience .. 

[Curious25]

10 hours ago, Fabulous said:

Not being on medication might decrease your chance with 50%

Well this is complete nonsense, as medication has no superior effect on the successful growth rate of hair transplanted via surgery to that of no meds.  Minoxidil can help assist and speed up growth of newly transplanted hairs, and finasteride can help mitigate the potential shock loss of native hairs, however there is no way a non medicated  patient stands a 50% less chance of a successful procedure. 

[deeznuts]

Dr. Konior said that if there's one thing you shouldn't do, it's get hit and disturb the grafts.

Everything else is not recommended but it's not gonna mess it up like physically disturbing the grafts.

That said, if you can't stop weed for a month in order to get the best result possible you probably have self-control issues. 

[blackislback]

Each type of operation has its preconditions, and here it is nothing else. If you are doing a kidney, lung, etc. transplant. , the doctor will also tell you what is not ok to do, so to avoid negative impact to results of the operation, and the same is the case with hair transplantation.

I don't understand people who want to do a hair transplant, and know that this is done once in a lifetime or maybe twice, and that your donor area is limited and not for whole life available, and that now for whatever reason you are endangering such a sensitive matter, even if this the recommendation 3-preop and 6-postop months without smoking is not so precise and proven, but it should be followed, if the recommendation of the doctor who will do your surgery, and who cares about your HT results, then you should also worry, because this is done for a lifetime, not for 6 months of results!

I am not very happy to follow all the instructions of Dr. Bicer, because I am one of her patients, but I am aware that it is for my good, not for the good of dr. Bicer, no matter how valid these requests were or invalid, difficult, demanding! Just people if you want to do HT, accept the terms of the operation, do not be bigger doctors than doctors, otherwise do not do the operation if you are not ready for some sacrifices.

If you really want an even more precise opinion on the impact of smoking, marijuana, etc. on hair growth, HT, then consults a specialist Dermatologist, Hematologist, Angiologist, etc. dealing in more detail with issues of goats, blood, blood vessels, etc.! Even i'm sure dr. Bicer consulted with such specialists, and that's why she suggest it.

And yes, very nice of dr. Bicer if she warned you about it, because some hairmill clinics and like that, would told you that it is not a problem to come to operation, it shows her professional attitude towards the patient and care, and that she cares about the good results of the patient!

[Al - Moderator]

The question nobody has asked is: If you are smoking weed daily are you really going to be able to stop for 3 months prior to the HT and then another 6 months afterwards? That's 9 months of not smoking weed for someone who smokes it daily. Only you can answer if you really believe you can do that. If you can't then why postpone the surgery? It sounds like you already stopped for a week, so it's not like you are doing it the day before. What's the point of postponing just to be cheating and smoking weed anyway up to a week or so prior anyway? If you can actually stop for 9 months, then why are you smoking it at all?

 

[Fue3361]

I'd honestly just do the surgery if it was me.  

If I were to guess, they might be asking you to quit 3 months prior, just to ensure that you're able to quit in the first place.  Maybe they're worried you'll smoke a few days after your surgery.

But yeah, I can't think of a physiological reason for why you'd have to quit 3 entire months beforehand.  If anything, smokers have higher red blood cell count in order to negate the effects of tissue hypoxia.  Someone who is a smoker but hasn't smoked in a few days should have quit good skin oxygenation unless he actually has serious lung damage.

That said, I'm not a doctor, but since you asked, I'd personally just get the surgery done.

That said, I would NEVER smoke after the surgery, until all my hair grew in nicely haha.


One thing to consider, if your surgery is a fail, maybe you'll have less recourse as they might say "we told you it was a risk".

[Falconary]

In Middle East/Turkey cannabis is usually smoked mixed with tobacco without a filter, I would say atleast 90% of cannabis smokers smoke hash mixed with tobacco, so that perhaps why Dr Bicer wanted you to wait so long before and after HT before smoking.