Strongly need your advices for my third hairtransplant (and the last one) in Turkey

[Amin34]

Dear friends 

 

i strongly need your advice and recommendations for my third and the last hair transplant.according to the fact that my case wont be picked up by all the clinics , what would be your suggestions

 

i am a 38 years old guy and have the noorwood 6 ptogressive baldness

i have had already two procedures 

the first one was sbout 15 years ago , FUT or strip procedure

the second one was around 10 years ago and this time i went under the FIT procedure

both procedures were about , reparing my hairline snd midscalp

as i have s progressive baldness, my hair started to be thin on the crown and vertex area and currently i have s bald spot there.

my objective is to cover those areas and slso give a little bit of the density to my  hairline.

unfortunatelly those two procedures , destroyed and exhausted my donor areas thats why my case wont be picked up by all the clinics.

i recently bumped into the Dr cinik clinic after dome research and it seems that he has some decent works. Also their price is effordable for me( i oive in Belgium and the doctor here asked at least 6 euros per grafts which is so expensive for me)

 

i already contacted their clinic and i came in touch with his assistant ( Sera)

after analysing my photos by the docotor 

she suggested me as the following

 

1000-1200 grafts from beard 

1000-1200 grafts from chest 

1000 grafts from only the back of my head as my donor area above each ears are already destroyed 

 

those 1000 grafts from the back of my head will go to the hairline for giving the density

 

and the mixture of beard and chest will be implanted into the vertex and crown

however she said that as the bald area is wide , they cant give it a tight density

 

This is really my last chance , i font want to chose a wrong clinic and ruin my last procedure , would you please give me your ideas?

is this clinic trustable ( specially for mycase)

are those objectives realistic?

Do you recommend another doctor or clinic in turkey ?if yes dont hesitate to share the name please

all and all , all your advices would be highly appreciated 

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

 

[Britanium]

Please reconsider this. Cinik is a hairmill and you need to chose better. Just for a very recent example:

 

[Amin34]

1 minute ago, JohnAC71 said:

Please reconsider this. Cinik is a hairmill and you need to chose better. Just for a very recent example:

 

Hello John , i already saw your post , but i have not seen any photos and the reason why you was not satisfied with their work 

if you can provide me some photos from your result  , it would be appreaciated 

[Britanium]

You should consider someone who excels in the higher Norwood levels. Eugenix would be a much better choice. Some others would be Dr Bicer, HDC @Doron Harati, Dr Bisanga (BHR) @slor @Raphael84, Vertex @DrTBarghouthi

Your case looks like it needs careful planning due to your previous procedures and it does not look like your scalp donor has much/any left to give. Its already thinned out. 

Edited June 20, 2021 by JohnAC71

[Britanium]

1 minute ago, Amin34 said:

Hello John , i already saw your post , but i have not seen any photos and the reason why you was not satisfied with their work 

if you can provide me some photos from your result  , it would be appreaciated 

This is not my result. It’s @pomloeplease use the private message to contact him. And/or contact @Egyand ask for his experiences. He does have pics and his own story you can see. 

[Britanium]

Also look through the forum and search for Cinik results. It’s really not worth the 50/50 risk of getting a poor procedure. You really don’t want a tech driven procedure for your next Ht. you need a Dr and one who will give you the best possible chance of a decent result. 

Edited June 20, 2021 by JohnAC71

[ITA]

@Amin34With a starting situation like yours, you must need a good clinic / surgeon, with a small donor area like yours, with that area to cover and considering that the doctor should implant in the hair you already have, you should trust to a top surgeon like Feriduni or De Freitas, but as far as I understand, they are very expensive for you.  Sometimes, it's better to do nothing than to just try.  If many clinics have already told you that they would not operate on you there will be a reason, Cinik just wants your money, if you don't get the results he promises you, you too will be one of his "numbers" gone wrong.

[Kharmacoma]

I assume you are not on Finasteride. Big mistake, but what ever clinic you choose get on fin cause you will possibly need a forth one in the coming years and you will have no grafts. 

[GUCCI]

I dont think it is the right choice to give up if you can't pay expensive doctors and clinics. You can get a good and decent result without spending all of your money.

The difference in price does not always mean that you wil get better result.  

There are some other clinics in Turkey, which have affordable budjet and you consider them like Dr Yaman, Bicer, Demirsoy, Turan. For repair work eugenix is also good, but they are pricey if you select the premium pachages, but there are trained doctors in eugenix clinics who are less expensive. Pekiner and HLC are also good, but their cost is 2.5 euro per graft.

Beard grafts are better than the chest grafts. Try to put more beard grafts, instead of chest grafts.

Edited June 20, 2021 by GUCCI

[Amin34]

15 minutes ago, Kharmacoma said:

I assume you are not on Finasteride. Big mistake, but what ever clinic you choose get on fin cause you will possibly need a forth one in the coming years and you will have no grafts. 

No i am not on Finasteride , because of its side effects , however i have been using Minoxidil 5% twice day since so many years ago

[MachoVato]

I think you need to approach this another way.

Repair cases require a more experienced hand. Don't go to a technician-led clinic, like Cinik. They will not have the skill to extract beard or chest hair, and place them in scarred recipient area. And your donor area on your head is very depleted. Cinik won't know how to handle that. You won't be able to over your crown with just beard/chest hair. 

How about contacting Dr. Bicer. She has over 20 years experience, including chest and beard. And she can do FUT, which you should really consider.

Edited June 20, 2021 by MachoVato

[Britanium]

2 minutes ago, MachoVato said:

I think you need to approach this another way.

Repair cases require a more experienced hand. Don't go to a technician-led clinic, like Cinik. They will not have the skill to extract beard or chest hair, and place them in scarred recipient area. And your donor area on your head is very depleted. Cinik won't know how to handle that. You won't be able to over your crown with just beard/chest hair. 

How about contacting Dr. Bicer. She has over 20 years experience, including chest and beard. And she can do FUT, which you should really consider.

Totally agree 👌 This needs a Dr not tech driven clinic. 

[JonDoe]

You have limited donor, limited amount of remaining grafts, please chose a real Dr. doing the surgery. Cinik is only a face and promotion, he has no involvement in the surgeries what so ever.

[Gasthoerer]

I am brutally honest: I do not think that you have enough donor left, to go with a standard approach.

Either you you need a BHT specialist (and enough body hair) and go all in (Maybe even body to donor), which will cost you several 10k€ or

Your might have to go into full repair mode, punch out some grafts and rebuilt a new, conservative hairline (which will cost you several 10 k€). 

Maybe you need both and (!) you should reconsider about FIN. You need specialists, not hairmills. 

 

This is why it is so dangerous to have a procedure at such a young age. Often the hairline is too aggressive for the loss. 

 

[shami26]

I think you should consider getting a partial hair system to cover the crown. You don't have enough donor hair to cover both the crown and refine the hairline.

Look at this case: 

 

[deeznuts]

If ethical clinics aren't taking you, you should take that as a sign. If I were a doctor, I wouldn't take you either.

They're gonna take 1k grafts and put it your hairline which sounds kinda reasonable if you even have 1k grafts there. But 1000 beard/chest grafts to your crown? From what I understand, you need to blend the body hair with the scalp hair and I dont even know if you have the scalp hair for that.

Your donor is stretched so thin, and if you talk to some ethical drs who do BHT wont take you, I would just consider giving up or going the hair system route. It seems pretty questionable if you are even a candidate for surgery to me. You look NW7 to me but it's hard to tell for sure

[HugoX]

15 hours ago, JohnAC71 said:

You should consider someone who excels in the higher Norwood levels. Eugenix would be a much better choice. Some others would be Dr Bicer, HDC @Doron Harati, Dr Bisanga (BHR) @slor @Raphael84, Vertex @DrTBarghouthi

Your case looks like it needs careful planning due to your previous procedures and it does not look like your scalp donor has much/any left to give. Its already thinned out. 

Let us not forget Dr. Zarev 😁

[A Fue Good Men]

@Amin34 how many grafts fut have you had? Also, in regards to fit I assume this is some sort of fue procedure? How many grafts of fit/fue have you had?

[Gatsby]

This is why not everyone is a candidate for a hair transplant. You need to think in terms of years from now when considering surgery. It's about planning over the lifespan. I would genuinely think about speaking with your doctor about trying finasteride if you are able to tolerate it. It will improve the density of your hair not only in your donor region but will also help thicken your miniaturized hair also. This alone could save you from further surgery. If you are looking at surgery on a tight budget it is always better to save up until you can afford a top tier surgeon. Otherwise it will cost more in the long run anyway! If you have been rejected for surgery then take that as gold advice. They may be saving you from an even more depleted donor and a failed hair transplant. Body hairs don't have a great success rate and beard hair alone looks very unnatural. If you don't feel comfortable wearing a small hair piece for the crown then look at Eugenix and others that @JohnAC71 has recommended. Trust me on this from personal experience. You could possibly undo everything you have if you don't take heed to these warnings and those of others who have posted. I do not mean to sound harsh. I just don't want to see you make a big mistake. All the best.

[Amin34]

16 hours ago, Egy said:

@Amin34With a starting situation like yours, you must need a good clinic / surgeon, with a small donor area like yours, with that area to cover and considering that the doctor should implant in the hair you already have, you should trust to a top surgeon like Feriduni or De Freitas, but as far as I understand, they are very expensive for you.  Sometimes, it's better to do nothing than to just try.  If many clinics have already told you that they would not operate on you there will be a reason, Cinik just wants your money, if you don't get the results he promises you, you too will be one of his "numbers" gone wrong.

Egy ,  i am living in Belgium and there are some good surgeons in Belgium like  Doctor Feriduni , Dr Bisanga , Dr Devroy 

i already contacted all of them , because i wanted to be in a good hands for my last procedure , 

But the price of their procedure were  so high  ( around 20k) which is not affordable for me , thats why i thought about get it done somewhere else like Turkey , where the prices seems to be more reasonable 

[Gatsby]

Just now, Amin34 said:

Egy ,  i am living in Belgium and there are some good surgeons in Belgium like  Doctor Feriduni , Dr Bisanga , Dr Devroy 

i already contacted all of them , because i wanted to be in a good hands for my last procedure , 

But the price of their procedure were  so high  ( around 20k) which is not affordable for me , thats why i thought about get it done somewhere else like Turkey , where the prices seems to be more reasonable 

The problem is that in Turkey they are cheaper because they don't have the skill set of the doctors that you mentioned (and the ethics to go with it). With a depleted donor many Turkish clinics will tell you what you want to hear which will be the last thing you need. I would recommend Dr Bicer in Turkey as I'm sure she will be honest with you.

[Amin34]

13 hours ago, MachoVato said:

I think you need to approach this another way.

Repair cases require a more experienced hand. Don't go to a technician-led clinic, like Cinik. They will not have the skill to extract beard or chest hair, and place them in scarred recipient area. And your donor area on your head is very depleted. Cinik won't know how to handle that. You won't be able to over your crown with just beard/chest hair. 

How about contacting Dr. Bicer. She has over 20 years experience, including chest and beard. And she can do FUT, which you should really consider.

Yes indeed , as you already mentioned my donor areas , specially above each ears are so depleted , however i strongly believe that , if a full trained and skillful doctor  pickup my case , i would have this chance to repairs all those damages .

i already contacted Dr Bicer , ( i heard alot about her ) specially in the similar cases as mine , 

I am waiting for her feedback 

[Amin34]

13 hours ago, JovsGata said:

You have limited donor, limited amount of remaining grafts, please chose a real Dr. doing the surgery. Cinik is only a face and promotion, he has no involvement in the surgeries what so ever.

Yes , thats why i am reconsidering another clinics where the doctor at least has some more involvement in the surgeries 

[Amin34]

12 hours ago, Gasthoerer said:

I am brutally honest: I do not think that you have enough donor left, to go with a standard approach.

Either you you need a BHT specialist (and enough body hair) and go all in (Maybe even body to donor), which will cost you several 10k€ or

Your might have to go into full repair mode, punch out some grafts and rebuilt a new, conservative hairline (which will cost you several 10 k€). 

Maybe you need both and (!) you should reconsider about FIN. You need specialists, not hairmills. 

 

This is why it is so dangerous to have a procedure at such a young age. Often the hairline is too aggressive for the loss. 

 

Thanks for your honest comment , however i strongly believe that if my case will be pick up by a skillful and full trained doctor , i will have this chance to get all those damages repaired , 

I already saw the cases far worse than mine , but they were in the good hands , and the result was so satisfying

[ITA]

@Amin34For your case, it is not enough to be picked up by a surgeon, but it is the whole complex that must work.  Even if I chose to go to Cinik for example, at most he would limit himself to making the incisions, paying a surplus of 500 €, but the technicians would do everything else, and implant on a scalp that has already had two procedures, therefore with so much scar tissue, it's not easy, plus, in that clinic they don't use microscopes, so it's possible that you would end up with doubles and multiples in hairline.  Listen to our advice, please.