Regular Member omarca Posted April 27, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Etownone said: Yeah... I thought it was a bit much too. They are 5mg tablets. I take 2 a day. So far, so good. No sides effects to complain of. I can always drop it down to 5mg a day. Thanks bro ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphoria Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, omarca said: Hi Etownone! I uave read that minox oral has can cause heart issues! Whats your opinion about it ? Really want to start oral min but iam a bit scared! Thanks mate Correct. Stay away. The heart damage is cumulative that is it adds up as you grow older and your heart isn’t getting renewed and I think there was a study where they showed even if you don’t feel anything, the heart rate/tachycardia happens. You can search yourself, minoxidil is too toxic and dropped from practice for heart conditions only used as a last resort. As a topical, it’s somewhat OK but still I can’t imagine the damage it could be doing from the amount being absorbed. But to take it orally? 😳 I find it insane people are using it orally so much these days. Heart disease is number one killer Edited April 27, 2022 by Euphoria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Etownone Posted April 27, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Euphoria said: Correct. Stay away. The heart damage is cumulative that is it adds up as you grow older and your heart isn’t getting renewed and I think there was a study where they showed even if you don’t feel anything, the heart rate/tachycardia happens. You can search yourself, minoxidil is too toxic and dropped from practice for heart conditions only used as a last resort. As a topical, it’s somewhat OK but still I can’t imagine the damage it could be doing from the amount being absorbed. But to take it orally? 😳 I find it insane people are using it orally so much these days. Heart disease is number one killer Stay away from oral minoxidil? My cousin takes it prescribed by his Dr for high blood pressure at a much higher dose. The dosage ranges from 2.5 - 80mg a day. There are risks taking finesteride, dutasteride and minoxidil... It's up to the person to do their research, talk to their Dr, outweigh the pros and cons, and then make their own decision. I know I stopped both minoxidil and finesteride for almost a year and had a HUGE setback. That's why I'm so thankful I found Dr Mwamba for a repair job to get me back on track. So I'm taking my chances, while getting bloodwork every 6 months and checking my blood pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphoria Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Etownone said: Stay away from oral minoxidil? My cousin takes it prescribed by his Dr for high blood pressure at a much higher dose. The dosage ranges from 2.5 - 80mg a day. There are risks taking finesteride, dutasteride and minoxidil... It's up to the person to do their research, talk to their Dr, outweigh the pros and cons, and then make their own decision. I know I stopped both minoxidil and finesteride for almost a year and had a HUGE setback. That's why I'm so thankful I found Dr Mwamba for a repair job to get me back on track. So I'm taking my chances, while getting bloodwork every 6 months and checking my blood pressure. Check this https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3191000/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7203570/ that’s for topical which has less absorption systemically and considered much safer. Orally the effects are much worse. Check Kevin manns video on it I am not saying stop it topically but I wouldn’t take it orally. Especially when there’s no special benefit to taking it orally but the side effects are guaranteed. as for finasteride, it is a much safer drug people taking it for decades. The side effects are much more noticeable since they are sexual and you block sex hormone but with low doses, its much better. Ashton Kutcher took dutasteride for a decade, stopped, has kids etc. Edited April 27, 2022 by Melvin- Moderator Removed video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted April 27, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Euphoria said: Check this https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3191000/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7203570/ that’s for topical which has less absorption systemically and considered much safer. Orally the effects are much worse. Check Kevin manns video on it I am not saying stop it topically but I wouldn’t take it orally. Especially when there’s no special benefit to taking it orally but the side effects are guaranteed. as for finasteride, it is a much safer drug people taking it for decades. The side effects are much more noticeable since they are sexual and you block sex hormone but with low doses, its much better. Ashton Kutcher took dutasteride for a decade, stopped, has kids etc. You’ve provided a study from 34 years ago, a study on rats, and a video from a YouTuber. Keep your fear mongering to yourself rather than derail a great thread. Edited April 27, 2022 by Curious25 Spelling 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphoria Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Curious25 said: You’ve provided a study from 34 years ago, a study on rats, and a video from a YouTuber. Keep your fear mongering to yourself rather than detail a great thread. Clearly you’re unaware of the drug history and how drugs get made and brought to the market. If there’s some fault with the study(s), point them out. But you obviously can’t 😂 We both know your level of knowledge here. Anyway, I thought the person was naive and didn’t know the dangerous toxicity of the drug but clearly they could care less and so this discussion has reached its conclusion I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted April 27, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Euphoria said: Clearly you’re unaware of the drug history and how drugs get made and brought to the market. If there’s some fault with the study(s), point them out. But you obviously can’t 😂 We both know your level of knowledge here. Anyway, I thought the person was naive and didn’t know the dangerous toxicity of the drug but clearly they could care less and so this discussion has reached its conclusion I believe I’m not going to bother with the studies - first of all if there were serious cardiac concerns about the topical, cited from a study in 1988 . . I doubt that we would have seen rogaine on our shelves from that time period. Second of all, rats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 27, 2022 Administrators Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Euphoria said: Check this https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3191000/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7203570/ that’s for topical which has less absorption systemically and considered much safer. Orally the effects are much worse. Check Kevin manns video on it I am not saying stop it topically but I wouldn’t take it orally. Especially when there’s no special benefit to taking it orally but the side effects are guaranteed. as for finasteride, it is a much safer drug people taking it for decades. The side effects are much more noticeable since they are sexual and you block sex hormone but with low doses, its much better. Ashton Kutcher took dutasteride for a decade, stopped, has kids etc. This is fear mongering, the same thing that same YouTuber proclaims is done with finasteride. 2 2 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted April 27, 2022 Administrators Share Posted April 27, 2022 Guys, If you want to discuss oral minoxidil, create a separate thread. This thread is about @captaincalico and his incredible results and journey. 4 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SoSoz Posted April 28, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 2:32 PM, Hairtroubles said: Fair - is there any hope of a transplant without taking fin or min, at all? You should look at Eran case with Dr Bicer, he was Nw6 and never took Fin, his hair look great now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hairtroubles Posted April 29, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 29, 2022 16 hours ago, SoSoz said: You should look at Eran case with Dr Bicer, he was Nw6 and never took Fin, his hair look great now. I saw his post, definitely am a fan of it, however, he was a NW6... the risk I have is to continue to lose hair you know? But yes, his is exceptional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted April 30, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 30, 2022 What is the point of not taking medication or preventives measures when you are a Norwood 5A because you had a transplant? A NW5a needs on average 7.000-8.000 grafts to achieve coverage. If you progress to a Norwood 7 you need 12.000 grafts which very few people have as donor and it's quite expensive. Not to mention DUPA and thinning your donor which will thin your recipient grafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SLY Posted May 5, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted May 5, 2022 On 10/18/2021 at 12:35 PM, londonhairlossvictim said: How long have you been using it for now? Did you use it before your FUE also or only after you had your FUE? The guys from FUECLINIC.COM told me:"Once a week, 2ml (full pipette) for 4 weeks After this, if no sides, you can increase to twice a week or even EOD if you want" Hello is full pipette equal 2ml or 4ml? It's not very clear .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member captaincalico Posted May 18, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) Hey Guys, here is an update on the third planned surgery with Dr Mwamba and third Mesotherapy PRP treatment. This time we added 1.200 grafts to the entire frontal third of my scalp. I decided to shave as my crown is starting to see growth, and I wanted to match it with the front. After shaving and inspecting the hairline with a proscope I was surprised to see that we had almost 98% of regrowth and survival which I think is quite high for FUE (I was expecting between 90%-95%). Surgery was easier than last time as we used less grafts so it was shorter time in the chair, also recovery was super fast! and my donor area is looking great. I am hoping to update you guys on a monthly basis once regrowth begins, it should look super thick hopefully Edited May 18, 2022 by captaincalico 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HappyMan2021 Posted May 18, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 18, 2022 @captaincalico looks great so far! I actually have my own surgery with Dr. Mwamba in less than 3 weeks! I just sent you a DM with a few q's if you can take a look. Appreciate it, thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Etownone Posted May 18, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 18, 2022 Whoa.. You had a 3rd HT. Did you do these all 6 months apart. Grear for you man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted June 2, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2022 much shedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member captaincalico Posted June 8, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 8, 2022 Unfortunately I’ve shed a fair bit this time around …. But it is already growing back… I really want to give you all an update video…. Which I will soon ! I just want what was shocked to come back a little First 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted June 8, 2022 Administrators Share Posted June 8, 2022 12 hours ago, captaincalico said: Unfortunately I’ve shed a fair bit this time around …. But it is already growing back… I really want to give you all an update video…. Which I will soon ! I just want what was shocked to come back a little First It’s gonna take some time, but it’s good to show the full journey. So people who are experiencing shock loss could see it comes back. 3 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldReaper Posted June 9, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 10:39 PM, captaincalico said: Getting thicker by the day ! To say I’m happy is an understatement … also anyone else having issues when posting a picture ? Mine keep posting sideways ! you use any conceiler here? what is the distance of hairline from top of eyebrows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member captaincalico Posted June 12, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 12, 2022 No consealer at all on that pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member captaincalico Posted June 12, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 12, 2022 Eyebrow to hairline is 3 finger width … it’s what most adult males would go for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member captaincalico Posted June 12, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 7:46 PM, Melvin- Moderator said: It’s gonna take some time, but it’s good to show the full journey. So people who are experiencing shock loss could see it comes back. I will be doing an update at the end of June I think ! Thanks for the mention on your interview with Dr Mwamba! Was an interesting watch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member captaincalico Posted June 17, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 7:19 PM, Melvin- Moderator said: This is fear mongering, the same thing that same YouTuber proclaims is done with finasteride. I am currently on 5mg a day and my blood pressure is perfect… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hairy Henderson Posted July 2, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 2, 2022 Crazy result! Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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