Regular Member Mike_2020 Posted January 10, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted January 10, 2021 I am a Norwood 6. If someone is concerned about how much of their donor area will be lost in the future due to continued loss as one gets older, and consequently wanted to minimise the amount of hair extracted from the normal donor area (i.e. back/sides of head), what would be the maximum percentage of donor which could potentially be extracted from beard and/or chest area? Assume that their is enough beard and chest hair for the full procedure. For example, could 80% of the hair required for the transplant be extracted from beard/chest? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member plus Posted January 10, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted January 10, 2021 Most doctors don't even consider using chest hair. Only Dr. Umar Sansui (as far as a I know) is very willing to use all body hair. I don't know his success rate, you should email him and ask. Beard hair is more commonly used. Here is Eugenix's video on this topic and it contains some stats: But then there might be other doctors who ge better results. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mike_2020 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 10, 2021 Thanks very much Plus for the link to the video. That was very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted January 10, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 10, 2021 The issue you would likely encounter that strikes me straight away, would be in relation to anagen phases. Beard and more so chest hairs have lesser time in the anagen phase than scalp hair, therefore you could be sparse up top for longer periods of time, than if scalp hair was used. You would also need to visit a doctor who is a specialist in this area, as transection rates for BHT tend to be higher - however this is improving with modern techniques and a greater understanding. Dr Mwamba is another BHT specialist worth checking out, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted January 11, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Mike_2020 said: I am a Norwood 6. If someone is concerned about how much of their donor area will be lost in the future due to continued loss as one gets older, and consequently wanted to minimise the amount of hair extracted from the normal donor area (i.e. back/sides of head), what would be the maximum percentage of donor which could potentially be extracted from beard and/or chest area? Assume that their is enough beard and chest hair for the full procedure. For example, could 80% of the hair required for the transplant be extracted from beard/chest? Thanks. If you have enough body hair you could theoretically use 100% body hair transplanted with no scalp donor used at all. If I remember correctly there was a recent post or video on this forum about someone who had a massive amount of back hair and I think they only used that hair to transplant to his head and it looked like it turned out really well. I had a large completely bald area in my crown that has been transplanted with only beard and chest hair. The area is still thin and needs more grafts (I just had more put in this week actually), but as far as how it grows and the texture, there isn't really much of a difference. Most people seem to say that body hair will grow slower and not as lengthy, but I found it to be just the opposite on myself. My beard and chest hair grow faster and longer on my head than my native head hair does. I have to cut it more often than the surrounding native hair. 3 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted January 11, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2021 Here's the back hair to head transplant I was talking about in my previous post. 1 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member plus Posted January 11, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted January 11, 2021 first time I'm jealous of some guy's generous back hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mike_2020 Posted January 12, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 12, 2021 I didn't realise anyone had that amount of back hair!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member anotherhairlosssufferer Posted January 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 13, 2021 This is nuts! All about this: both the amount of his back hairs and the results. I thought chest/back hairs were very rarely used with success (e.g. Eugenix experience). Minoxidil 1x day Stopped Fin due to sides HT With Dr. Konior December 2020: https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/anotherhairlossdude/4442 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted January 13, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 1:23 AM, Mike_2020 said: For example, could 80% of the hair required for the transplant be extracted from beard/chest? Thanks. The problem is that if 80% of the recipient hair was made up of beard/chest hair the results would look completely unnatural. The characteristics and behavour of these donor sources are completely different to those of scalp hair. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SLA Posted January 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Gatsby said: The problem is that if 80% of the recipient hair was made up of beard/chest hair the results would look completely unnatural. The characteristics and behavour of these donor sources are completely different to those of scalp hair. While you have a valid point @Gatsby, I do not agree entirely as I have seen examples in which 80% or so of body hairs looks great. One example is Rahul, a Eugenix patient, a NW 7 with around 12k grafts with only around 1k or so coming from the scalp. His results are posted somewhere on this forum. You can probably find his video is a google search. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted January 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 13, 2021 LOL @ using pubic hair. Thats kinda where I draw the line 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted January 13, 2021 Administrators Share Posted January 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, Westview said: LOL @ using pubic hair. Thats kinda where I draw the line 😂 Lol agreed, pubic and arm pit hair. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted January 13, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 hours ago, SLA said: While you have a valid point @Gatsby, I do not agree entirely as I have seen examples in which 80% or so of body hairs looks great. One example is Rahul, a Eugenix patient, a NW 7 with around 12k grafts with only around 1k or so coming from the scalp. His results are posted somewhere on this forum. You can probably find his video is a google search. Yes you have a valid point. I chatted with Rahul in August of last year after he did a podcast on Instagram with Dr Sethi. He had three failed hair transplants prior to going to Eugenix. His beard hair and scalp hair are both straight hair and it matches well. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SLA Posted January 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gatsby said: Yes you have a valid point. I chatted with Rahul in August of last year after he did a podcast on Instagram with Dr Sethi. He had three failed hair transplants prior to going to Eugenix. His beard hair and scalp hair are both straight hair and it matches well. Yes, he certainly did have a great result @Gatsby. I think on a more modest graft count level, Amirik (posted on this forum) got nice results with Eugenix using 3,613 (or something like that) grafts using exclusively body hairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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