Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted April 25, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 25, 2017 I bet you have more than 6000 grafts at your disposal. I have 7k in my frontal third alone, but i did strip and not FUE, which does change the amount that can be yielded from the donor typically. You're right Speegs as it turned out I did have above average donor. When I was doing my consults I wasn't really banking on that and given the 6k-8k average available grafts quoted on various threads I figured 6k was conservative for planning purposes. I was told I have very good donor so hopefully I'm closer to 8k. Can't believe you have 7k grafts on a nw3a. That must look great! 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Speegs Posted April 25, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted April 25, 2017 You're right Speegs as it turned out I did have above average donor. When I was doing my consults I wasn't really banking on that and given the 6k-8k average available grafts quoted on various threads I figured 6k was conservative for planning purposes. I was told I have very good donor so hopefully I'm closer to 8k. Can't believe you have 7k grafts on a nw3a. That must look great! I'm right at 9 months post op of round three, and the change has been subtle and awesome. Because of the gradual pace of the transition my own parents don't know what I've done, they think it's all propecia. I'm 33 and people think I'm 25 or 26, in no small part because of how I can wear my hair now...and I looked 35 when I didn't wear a hat at 26, so it's an interesting role reversal. Dr. Gabel and I are both eager to see the final result in a few months, we think it may be among the most complete cosmetic hair restorations either of us have ever seen. Hair loss patient and transplant veteran. Once a Norwood 3A. Received 2,700 grafts with coalition doctor on 8/13/2010 Received 2,380 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 9/30/2011 Received 1,820 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 7/28/2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rawkerboi Posted April 26, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted April 26, 2017 Exciting times starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vermaj Posted April 27, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted April 27, 2017 It should be all uphill from now. From my experience, even I experienced less growth behind the hairline as compared to the hairline grafts. Maybe the experts can clarify the science behind that. I also just completed my 4 months. You should be seeing the grafts showering in soon Happy growing "My Hair Loss Website" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Speegs Posted April 27, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted April 27, 2017 It should be all uphill from now.From my experience, even I experienced less growth behind the hairline as compared to the hairline grafts. Maybe the experts can clarify the science behind that. I also just completed my 4 months. You should be seeing the grafts showering in soon Happy growing There's greater blood flow and thus circulation to feed blood supply to the grafts in the frontal portion of the scalp. Hair loss patient and transplant veteran. Once a Norwood 3A. Received 2,700 grafts with coalition doctor on 8/13/2010 Received 2,380 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 9/30/2011 Received 1,820 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 7/28/2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted April 28, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'm 33 and people think I'm 25 or 26, in no small part because of how I can wear my hair now...and I looked 35 when I didn't wear a hat at 26, so it's an interesting role reversal. You found the fountain of youth! Congratulations! Do you have your own thread on here? If so, would you mind throwing up a link? I've heard Gabel has fantastic results and would like to see your results on the hairline. 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted April 28, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 28, 2017 Exciting times starts Thanks Rawkerboi! I was a little down today as I watched HTSoon's (who posted earlier in this thread) results video on youtube and was thinking there's no way mine will look that good at 5 months. Had me a little worried as I'm post four months and it still looks like shit. Gotta stay positive though. Link to the aforementioned youtube video: 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted April 28, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted April 28, 2017 It should be all uphill from now.From my experience, even I experienced less growth behind the hairline as compared to the hairline grafts. Maybe the experts can clarify the science behind that. I also just completed my 4 months. You should be seeing the grafts showering in soon Happy growing Hey Vermaj! Good to hear from you again. Yes, we had our procedures around the same time and seem to have similar growth patterns. Hopefully we both get spectacular results! Regarding the hairline grafts growing faster than the other grafts, my initial thought was that since the hairline is the most important area for the aesthetic results of the procedure the doctor/techs likely pay extra attention when implanting those grafts. That being said, Speegs' earlier explanation sounds more scientific so he's probably right. 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Speegs Posted April 28, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted April 28, 2017 You found the fountain of youth! Congratulations! Do you have your own thread on here? If so, would you mind throwing up a link? I've heard Gabel has fantastic results and would like to see your results on the hairline.Please PM me and i'll give you my email, I'm shy about my privacy on these forums, but will gladly share in private. Hair loss patient and transplant veteran. Once a Norwood 3A. Received 2,700 grafts with coalition doctor on 8/13/2010 Received 2,380 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 9/30/2011 Received 1,820 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 7/28/2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted May 20, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hi all, I'm at 5 months post op so snapped a few pics. I'm noticing more sprouts than at 4 months. Obviously still not enough to grow out (hence the buzz cut) but encouraging nonetheless. The sprouts somewhat frame my face which is good, but still very sparse. I think the most encouraging part at this point is that I can shave my head down to 1 MM without my scars being noticeable. Scarring was a big concern of mine pre-op but to the untrained eye my scars are unnoticeable even at such a short length. I think i'm a slow grower, which isn't ideal, but hopefully there's a lot more growth to come in the next 6 months. 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member andy_+_+ Posted May 20, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2017 Great write up and seems like you did a lot of research. I really hope the hair starts to "pop" for you in the next 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vermaj Posted May 23, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hi all, I'm at 5 months post op so snapped a few pics. I'm noticing more sprouts than at 4 months. Obviously still not enough to grow out (hence the buzz cut) but encouraging nonetheless. The sprouts somewhat frame my face which is good, but still very sparse. I think the most encouraging part at this point is that I can shave my head down to 1 MM without my scars being noticeable. Scarring was a big concern of mine pre-op but to the untrained eye my scars are unnoticeable even at such a short length. I think i'm a slow grower, which isn't ideal, but hopefully there's a lot more growth to come in the next 6 months. Hey Baldslivematter, Are you in finasteride ? Sorry if I missed this in your previous statements. I think you are a slow grower but everybody has a different hair cycle phase. You should wait for next month to come and start noticing the fun. I know the wait is hard, and I am experiencing that myself. But maybe worth the effort. Keep updating. Cheers "My Hair Loss Website" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted June 18, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 18, 2017 Stil waiting for more growth... 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JayLDD Posted June 18, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 18, 2017 There is still a (low) possibility of substantial growth to come, Dr. Feller mentions a result in one of his vids where the vast majority started at around month 9. To be honest you used a very small amount of grafts considering the area covered. There was very little margin for error. In my humble opinion Konior's graft quote for you seems more on the money, and the truth is his FUE work is stronger. 1 HT1: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/48494-asmed-koray-erdogan-3070-grafts-april-10th/ HT2: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51224-3038-grafts-fue-asmed-koray-erdogan-30th-april/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ernie Posted June 19, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2017 Stil waiting for more growth... To be honest, I'd say this is "good progress." 1779 grafts over that amount of space: this is going to probably be a "decent outcome" but "poor coverage" due to planning. Or if not planning, which involves the doc, then expectations?? Dunno. I had 3185 grafts over the same area and STILL went back for a touch up even though almost every single one of my 3185 grafts appeared (very subjective, I know) to have grown. Of course, I'm much older than you (42 now), so don't take my post as a suggestion that you should blast your frontal third with 4300 grafts as I have, lol 3185 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 2/17/16 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182611-fut-3185-dr-rahal-day-after-pics.html 1204 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 3/27/17 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186586-round-2-rahal-1204-fut-frontal-third-same-area.html ---> total of 4389 grafts to my frontal third via FUT ---> 1mg finasteride daily since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted June 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted June 19, 2017 BLM, I suggest letting your hair grow out at this point, not everyone grows at the same rate, 6 months is still early and I don't think that more growth is a low possibility, I think more growth is what WILL occur just be patient happy growing:D I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Looking at another's progress can be very depressing because the reality is, not everyone grows at the same rate. 6 months is still early and for slow growers, which you very well may be, the majority of their growth occur after this stage. In the meantime, try not to panic and just wait it out until 12 months when everyhing grows in. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted June 19, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2017 There is still a (low) possibility of substantial growth to come, Dr. Feller mentions a result in one of his vids where the vast majority started at around month 9. To be honest you used a very small amount of grafts considering the area covered. There was very little margin for error. In my humble opinion Konior's graft quote for you seems more on the money, and the truth is his FUE work is stronger. I appreciate the candor. One of the things I love about this forum (as opposed to the Polyanna sly guys forum where everyone "looks great!!!1") is that users don't hold back when they think growth is bad. 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted June 19, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2017 BLM, I suggest letting your hair grow out at this point, not everyone grows at the same rate, 6 months is still early and I don't think that more growth is a low possibility, I think more growth is what WILL occur just be patient happy growing:D Thanks HTsoon. I was planning to leave buzzed at 1mm until the gaps between grafts close a bit more before growing it out. Perhaps i'll try growing it out now and sprinkling a bit of Toppik in. 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted June 19, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2017 Looking at another's progress can be very depressing because the reality is, not everyone grows at the same rate. 6 months is still early and for slow growers, which you very well may be, the majority of their growth occur after this stage. In the meantime, try not to panic and just wait it out until 12 months when everyhing grows in. Best wishes, Bill Thanks Bill! Tbh I wasn't really panicking until reading through all the responses on here saying that my growth is bad lol. All joking aside, I think it will turn out fine -- I just want it to happen a little faster. 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member baldlivesmatter Posted July 15, 2017 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 15, 2017 Decided to let it grow a bit as HTSoon recommended but it looks patch af and i'm positive people are staring trying to figure out wtf is going on up there. Might have to go back to the buzz. 1700 grafts w/ Dr. Diep 1300 grafts w/ Dr. Nadimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vermaj Posted July 20, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted July 20, 2017 Hey baldlivesmatter, I completely agree with HLS2015, you need to start hitting the phone to the doctor. I think the grafts in this case clearly did not survive. The "patience" card is not playing here and it is extremely rare. I seriously wish that I am wrong and your grafts grow but you need to be at par with the clinic now. I am really sorry and I know the pain of something going wrong in terms of HT and it is a big clusterf**k. I hope you get your refund and then get your growth as well from someone more genuine. Good luck "My Hair Loss Website" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted July 20, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted July 20, 2017 You are right the there is only small hope for a great outcome, but, come on, this was hardly a mega session. Actually it might have been too few grafts from begin with. 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Speegs Posted July 23, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted July 23, 2017 You are right the there is only small hope for a great outcome, but, come on, this was hardly a mega session. Actually it might have been too few grafts from begin with.If the result from this clinic is undesirable, the less grafts they burned the better. Hair loss patient and transplant veteran. Once a Norwood 3A. Received 2,700 grafts with coalition doctor on 8/13/2010 Received 2,380 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 9/30/2011 Received 1,820 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 7/28/2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted July 23, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted July 23, 2017 baldlivesmatter, While I agree that you are behind the curve and it's prudent to begin discussing your concerns with Dr. Harris, I would also urge you to not succumb to the doom-and-gloomers. Slow growth is real. I was a slow grower with my first transplant. You can see my 7 month results here. Thought the final results of my first HT were not what I'd hoped for, I saw significant growth from 8 to 10 months and beyond. There is a reason why all clinics insist that patients wait at least 12 months and, despite what HLS2015 may believe, it is not to provide false hope and waste time. HLS2015, This is an utterly false and malicious statement. Our public record (try using the search feature) clearly shows that we often work to facilitate communication between patents and physicians and address patient concerns. We are, first and foremost, patient advocates. With such a low opinion of how we run this community, it's a wonder why you choose to continue participating. David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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