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Well, I don't like the way this stuff makes my hair dry, I'm going back to the Pura d'or shampoo . This stuff costs $25.00 a bottle, if anyone wants an almost full bottle for $15.00 (includes shipping) just PM me with your address. I've also discovered something called Moroccan Oil. it contains Linseed and Argan oil and smells wonderful. Made in Israel, and is really great for a dry scalp and hair. It's an oil, so only a small amount is necessary. I might use it a couple times a month. BTW, I've heard great things about Coconut Oil and I just purchased some, check out the http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DS842HS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 on this stuff, it is fairly amazing all the uses and benefits you get from this.

Yes, that was me. I'm not sure if I recommended it or not, more like I was asking about it. The reason I changed is because there are no medicinal qualities to the shampoo, it is organic and is free of sulfates and harsh cleansers but I would like to find something that also works on preserving ones hair. Thats the reason for the change. If I continue to see so many hairs in my tub I will be throwing this bottle in the trash.

Does anyone use http://www.amazon.com/Regenepure-Doctor-Recommended-Shampoo-Treatment/dp/B0032FSDOA/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1455244835&sr=1-1&keywords=regenepure I was wondering if you experienced any shedding when first starting use. I have never seen so many hairs in my tub from shampooing, and am wondering if I need to keep using this or I should just stop. (I've been on it for only a week) Cheers.

I've had work done by him, and he is not mistaken. Do tell us about your experiences, and why you feel compelled to mention Dr. Umar in every post you've made.

Dr. Umar is still putting out exceptional results, this guy is an anti-Umar troll, every post he's made has been about Dr. Umar. If he has a genuine beef he needs to post pictures and details, otherwise he should be banned, because he has a transparent agenda in being here.

If you are worried about removing your cap at the airport, wear a bandanna instead. They won't make you remove it if you tell them you just had surgery, just tell them they can gently feel up there if they want. They will pat your head and off you go. Plus you have the added benefit if you experience any bleeding on the flight your bandanna will catch it. I chose a red one.

See post #16

What would photos have proven anyway? It probably would have only shown that his new hairline looked good, that's probably why he didn't want to post pictures (this is merely an assumption on my part) I'm not sure how he could have posted any evidence to back up his claims that he wanted Feller and got Bloxham instead. If you plan a surgery with Dr. Wong, you would rightly be upset if Dr. Hasson showed up to perform the surgery.

As a repair patient myself, let me throw it out there that a lot of your donor has been taken from you and you run the very real risk of thinning out your donor completely if you harvest any more hair from your donor region. You need to speak with someone who is very well practiced at the art of repair, and the best in the world is Dr. Umar in Redondo Beach, very near Los Angeles. I had no scalp donor to draw from in back, but Dr. Umar took hair from beside the ears, as well as nape hair, to create a 100% natural looking hairline. You can pretty much be assured that this is the foremost area of concern in your repair, and the first thing to address. As David stated, the plugs will be hearty and thick, and that is a double edged sword, to be sure. The denser the plugs, the more they will stand out amongst the other barren areas of scalp. If you don't have sufficient scalp donor, you may need to turn to beard hair. It's all I had left to work with after Dr. Umar took my last thousand grafts of scalp hair to repair my hairline, and I had to thicken up the areas surrounding the mini grafts that I had done in the early 1990's, and mine looked just as bad as yours do. So I know what you're going through, but there was nothing that could be done for me for around 15 years, so I had to wear a hat everywhere I went. Even today I find I always keep a hat close by. It has become a strange attachment that I still rely on, but nothing obsessive like in times past. Part of it is that my hair looks pretty good now, and part of it is I've gotten older and really don't care what others think of my hair. Most people didn't care about my hair when I was butchered, and they will feel the same way about your hair. All I can say at this point is to proceed with caution in your repair. Often times people end up doing more damage in their desperation to be repaired, and that applied to me as well. Dr. Umar is the best on this planet in repairing peoples hair, but he is not cheap. You are going to likely need to consider using non-scalp sources, such as beard hair, in order to fill in between the plugs. Take your time and make sure you are thorough in asking the right questions of any potential repair doctor: 1) How many scalp grafts are available for repair? How many will be needed to conceal the plugs? 2) Is it a good idea to just remove the plugs from the crown and concentrate on the frontal half of the scalp for repair? (That is what I did in my repair. My crown is still bald, and I never allowed anyone to put any grafts into it, including Dr. Umar. I'm quite happy to have a bald crown these days.) 3) What is your experience level in doing repairs like mine? Do you have videos on your website of repairs? 4) Have you ever used non-scalp donor sources, like beard hair, before? This gives you an idea of how to start thinking, you cannot sit back and let a doctor decide what is the best course of action, you have to figure out what is the best course, and then reach an agreement with the doctor on what that course of action should be. It's often the hardest part of the repair, figuring out how to proceed with it. For me it was much harder than coming up with the money to pay for it. Please keep us posted on how you will proceed with this, and feel free to PM me if I can help.

Count me in for chipping in to a GoFundMe page. Anyone ever started one before? Heck, if we can get a thousand dollars (hopefully a lot more) it would cover airfare for consultations with a few top doctors, or a down payment on repairs. I'll start out with $100.00, and hopefully we can raise the ante from there. We need to do something for this guy, this community can step up to the plate and help, and there are a lot of caring people here. And it's Christmastime. Let's do this.

That doesn't even make sense.

Fewer people perform FUE in the U.S., therefore these select few can set the price higher. Once more and more doctors learn how to perform it (and many new doctors are learning how to perform it every day, with dollar signs practically popping out of their eyeballs) you can expect the price to come down. You cannot, however, expect the quality to go up. You will be hearing of more and more FUE failures as doctors navigate the learning curve.

That is a great answer, and thanks for your insight Dr. Bhatti.

Is that an attempt to discredit my observations? How about something a little more substantial then. Most reputable FUE surgeons tend to do around 1000 grafts in a single session, with 1500 grafts usually being the maximum. That's not the case with a strip surgery. If one were to extrapolate this further, it would be reasonable to deduce the root cause of the discrepancy is the level of work involved in FUE is > than in strip surgery. So, yes, I stand by my observation, and offer that to you as evidence why.

Using a manual punch and extracting follicles one by one is not more labor intensive than cutting out a hair bearing strip and having a team of technicians prepare the grafts? Come on now Dr. Feller.

FUE has had proven results, we've all seen the success stories of FUE. So if FUE is proven to deliver a stellar result, what could be the problem? Execution. Human error is to blame, and perhaps more so than human error is execution. Execution, as in human greed dictating less actual time with the patient and a higher number of patients, all to increase the bottom line. This approach will greatly diminish the chances of a successful result. Doctors in this industry have gotten away with this approach by doing strip, which is far less labor intensive than FUE. To practice FUE and then try and implement the strip approach to HT's is not going to end well for the patient.

DermMatch is a paste, there are no fibers.

If you are happy with the hairline placement, you are the perfect candidate for camouflaging the plugs with additional grafts. However, debulking the plugs, allowing the areas to heal, and then adding additional grafts is a lengthier process. It would likely yield a more positive result, knowing that the plugs are no longer there, in effect. If you can find someone to FUE the plugs to debulk them, that would probably yield the optimal outcome.

At least you are repairable. I would not blame Doganay for your hairline placement, it is ultimately the responsibility of the patient on the hairline design. If you both decided on the placement and it is where you had both pre-determined it should be, that decision ultimately is yours, and if unhappy, you are to blame, not Doganay. To say after the fact that you have miniaturization and can't take meds is something, in my opinion, you are responsible for. I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm simply an unbiased observer. I think your only complaint is that Doganay was not present enough (a common theme amongst most Turkish clinics) and poor growth. And perhaps your growth will take off, only time will tell.

Good advice Bill, and I appreciate your interest in this case. Paleo, you have presented enough evidence already, nobody speaks Italian on your thread, so posting a link to an Italian speaking forum and expecting people to translate to English is silly. You should now focus on your own situation, and discuss it, and provide photos of your present state, if you want your thread to stay active.

You get what you pay for is based on the assumption that you have done the required amount of research in choosing a HT surgeon. As far as I'm concerned there is no one in the U.K. I would visit to have a HT with in the first place, so I can further assume the people you know did not do their research. As far as Dr. Doganay, he is recommended on this forum, so people who visit him are also likely assuming they have chose wisely, and find that his prices are unbeatable. All things being equal (as far as recommended doctors) you get a really cheap rate, you find out there are some variables to consider: 1) Language barrier 2) Doctor involvement 3) Follow up care Perhaps all these issues get lower scores when getting a really cheap rate on your surgery, whereas paying more you may get higher scores on these.

There is a reputation amongst Turkish clinics of the doctors spending little actual time with the patient during surgery, and with some clinics, the surgery is done almost entirely by a team of technicians. When you get a low price HT, you have to give something up, and often times that is the attention of the physician who is supposed to perform the HT. With all HT doctors, including all of those in the U.S., their focus seems to be on how to maximize their time, which often means working on two patients at the same time, while instructing their technicians on how to proceed. Out of four different doctors I have seen for work (three of them to repair the work of the first one), 3 of the four were working on other patients at the same time they were working on me (the exception was Dr. Konior, who is often booked months in advance, and one of the reasons for this is the individual attention you receive from him) If this is the way business is conducted in Turkey, the end result is not going to be good for the patient, because it is likely that, over time, these doctors will begin to spend even less time on each patient, and work simultaneously on more patients each day, in order to maximize profits. In the end, you get what you pay for.

There should be a greater emphasis placed on recognition of assistants, considering how much of the actual work they do. Most spend more time on the patients than the doctors do. Congratulations to Janna on this award, well done!

I agree, start documenting and chronicling every last detail of this procedure. Clearly they used outdated techniques, but I'm not sure they can be held liable, unless it was in writing that they were going to perform FUT or FUE, and I doubt that was the case. However, the $5,000 paid, at a bare minimum, should be refunded. I doubt they would willingly do this, so involving the BBB and contacting your credit card company might work to get refunded. The sad part is that this clinic is allowed to go on with business as usual, and no penalties or censure by any organized medical body will result from this. When it comes to getting a HT, it truly is a jungle out there.