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All doctors post only the best of their best results online. Good to remember to take them with a grain of salt, as you point out. Hope things turn out ok for you.

Good thread. My guess is that it totally depends on genetics and Finasteride usage and has everything to do with the individual. When will his hair around the HT thin out? When will his donor thin/etc.? I do notice a lot of older men 50-60's with thin donor areas.

Gotta agree with KO on this one. After 10 years on Fin I have almost no loss and some gain in my crown. It SERIOUSLY stabilized my hair loss. Most people do not get sides from it but all drugs have possible side effects. But we take them all the time anyway. For instance I am allergic to Ibuprofen. It give me rashes. I didnt know it until I tried and got the side, so I stopped. If a drug like Propecia can help you hold onto your current NW level for 10 years... its worth a try IMHO. If you get sides simply stop. Ten years from now with the same NW level. Think about it. We are all here thinking about a HT and gambling on scarring/poor results/future OPs. I say use what we can in the fight and Fin is a great weapon against MPB. Ha!. I sound like a salesman. ... anyway Romperstomper29 isnt into it and that's his perogative so I guess the subject is mute here.

I totally understand. I hope it didnt seem like I was trying to push Fin on you. I was just trying to relate the potential effects of having a HT without halting your loss. Hope it all works out well and you get the hair you deserve.

I can see those dots pretty easily, and with some sun they might seem brighter, but this is nothing like a FUT scar would look. Good to see this video. Anybody know how many grafts he had?

No disrespect biolizard but Ive been on Propecia for over 10 years without one single side effect you mentioned. Ive never heard of anyone doing this successfully. I'm not sure it will as simple as you might think... or even possible. You could potentially have little scar marks in the recipient area that would not look natural. Im not 100% on this but did you ask a good doctor about this idea? Anyway back to the OP. Sure, it's your body. If you dont feel like trying Fin then dont, but I would strongly suggest you do not get a HT at this point. If you are 30 and heading for a NW5 you might end up regretting the decision. Just sayin.

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How old are you? I would strongly suggest getting on Fin asap. You will lose those hairs that you mentioned. Fin can help you hold them for years longer. Also you have to be REALLY sure you have the donor to get you looking good and normal for the long run. This is a LONG TERM decision.

I dont think you mean straightening the hairline out, right? That might make it MORE noticeable. Im wondering if it is because you simply have thicker donor hair, so up front it doesnt look soft and natural enough. Im not sure they can fix that? maybe with some single hairs only and cherry picked so they are thin. (?) its a good question and one you should keep asking until you find a solution. Dont rush into the next procedure. Look for the doctor who does the best/softest/most natural hairlines and talk to him. Look at a friends hairline that isnt losing any hair. Those hairs in the front are whispy thin.

Man. Interesting. Please do keep us posted on the journey.

Thanks Blake. Good important info here.

Awesome transformation.

Yes! that would be great. As far as laxity goes does someone with good laxity have a better chance of a small scar after 2-3 procedures compared to the same guy if he had a tight scalp (and normal "inner" laxity)? Thanks. Bingo. This is more along the lines of what I've read over the years of my research. Blake, I'm sure you and Dr Feller get great scars in general but minimizing this reality (above) does a disservice to the community by potentially leading to some unhappy people who were made to believe they would get a "pencil thin" scar. I'm not saying you are doing anything wrong but your initial posts really hint that a stretched scar shouldn't happen with good technique etc. I don't mean to put you on the spot. Im just looking for the reality here

Dad gummit! Life saving stuff here. Dr. Konior, I have to say your results are always amazing. Keep up the great work.

I agree with Sethticles. Around 3,000 would make a huge difference and look great. I would suggest putting some time in researching different doctors here on the site to find one that gets solid FUE results/etc. Also read a bunch of threads so you fully understand the procedure first. Also you might want to start taking Finasteride. It will stop your hairloss where it is and give you some good years to work with. Take your time and read up. Good luck.

Hi Sam23, Yea its really the time to just give it time to grow. There are lots of people who look great after a HT and no one can tell they had anything done. That comes right after the "Ugly duckling" stage (the first 3-4 months). Your hair should be looking much better and you dont have to tell anyone about it, ever, if you dont want to. Yes, that should come back to normal again with some time. In a few months there will be hair there and it should look great. You'll be there soon.

Are you saying that laxity excercises help to take a bigger strip but may increase the chance for poor scarring? That kind of makes them useless right? Or am I misunderstanding?

It's good you found a forum like this. Take your time, and read a BUNCH of threads. You'll learn the pros and cons of the different HT techniques and youll find a doctor that fits what you are looking for.

Awesome and very informative reply. Thanks Blake. Yea, this does makes sense. I had never even heard about ""the give" in the scalp caused by how the entire scalp is attached to the deep layers and the bony skull." being a factor. Interesting stuff.

Dad gummit Thanks CalvinJR. Strange, I thought a tighter scalp would be more at risk. Good to know.

Blake, if what you say is accurate then CalivinJR had a bad doctor. Right?His doctor should have noticed his skin condition and told him/suggested FUE. What confuses me most is the amount of posters that have bad scars even from great doctors. In your posts it sounds like stretched scars are a rare phenomenon that are controllable. Are they? Also CalvinJR had good laxity. I, for instance, do not. My scalp feels pretty tight back there. Does good or bad laxity have any effect on a scar stretching? Ok. Your patient has an amazing scar. Pencil thin. He must be very happy. But the reality for most people here they would need a lot more than 1800 grafts. A loose average would be about double that. So the same guy with 3600 grafts would have a thicker scar. Also as we all know almost everyone goes for a 2nd/3rd procedure. If the potential for scar stretching does go up with each procedure and the amount of grafts taken (bigger strip) make for more potential for the scar to stretch. Again this guy must be happy but most people would have a MUCH higher chance of a stretched scar because of the reality of 2nd/3rd procedures/more grafts needed etc. Im not at all disagreeing with what you said but there is still mystery around the "pencil thin scar" -VS- the stretched scar that we all read about so often. Thanks again for being so transparent and relating so much good info.

For 2603 grafts this is a nice improvement indeed.

This is an awesome forum! Nice work David.

Very interesting Dr. Fellar and Dr. Bloxham. Thanks for debunking that old myth. So basically collagen build-up, poor technique, and /or personal healing characteristics determine if a scar will be pencil thin or might stretch? Does scalp laxity have any bearing on the outcome also? How would a person determine if they scar well? If you have had any scars stretch could you tell there might be a problem before the HT? If this patient would have had 3600 grafts would the potential for stretching have gone up? On a second procedure does the potential for stretching increase even in the hands of the best doctors? Again, an interesting video. Thanks.

Sounds more like it was an unqualified doctor and his techs, not FUE itself. If they were any good they would have stopped, like you did, and consulted with him. Also they would not have told him his growth was ok and got him for more grafts after the fact. Bad doctor. Not bad procedure.