Been using Xyon topical finasteride for a couple weeks, so far it's been giving me stronger side effects than Farmacia Parariti

[hockeyman]

I'm interested in trying the Xyon topical. How long does it need to stay on the scalp before it would be ok to shower?  If a person applied this in the morning, is it okay to shower and wash hair in the evening?

[Curious]

Definitely, that would be more than enough time.

[Melvin- Admin]

On 7/14/2022 at 12:08 AM, hockeyman said:

I'm interested in trying the Xyon topical. How long does it need to stay on the scalp before it would be ok to shower?  If a person applied this in the morning, is it okay to shower and wash hair in the evening?

We’ll be opening up a Q&A thread very soon, where Dr. Hasson and Dr. Pimstone will answer questions directly regarding XYONHealth topical finasteride. Stay tuned. In the meantime, let me find out. 

[hockeyman]

Thanks Melvin

[yesplease]

On 7/15/2022 at 7:18 AM, Melvin- Moderator said:

We’ll be opening up a Q&A thread very soon, where Dr. Hasson and Dr. Pimstone will answer questions directly regarding XYONHealth topical finasteride. Stay tuned. In the meantime, let me find out. 

Any updates?

 

Thanks 

[Hairtroubles]

Any updates here?

On 7/15/2022 at 3:18 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

We’ll be opening up a Q&A thread very soon, where Dr. Hasson and Dr. Pimstone will answer questions directly regarding XYONHealth topical finasteride. Stay tuned. In the meantime, let me find out. 

 

[HairRun]

On 7/14/2022 at 12:08 AM, hockeyman said:

I'm interested in trying the Xyon topical. How long does it need to stay on the scalp before it would be ok to shower?  If a person applied this in the morning, is it okay to shower and wash hair in the evening?

When I was using it, it would be first thing after the shower. Also, during the time I was using it, whenever I would wash my hair, I would do an extreme bend back to wash my hair so it wouldn't drip down my body. 

[Hairtroubles]

5 minutes ago, HairRun said:

When I was using it, it would be first thing after the shower. Also, during the time I was using it, whenever I would wash my hair, I would do an extreme bend back to wash my hair so it wouldn't drip down my body. 

Why did you stop using it, any thoughts on it, side effects?

[HairRun]

1 minute ago, Hairtroubles said:

Why did you stop using it, any thoughts on it, side effects?

Yeah, it was the side effects. At this point I used 3 different brands and various microdoses and frequencies. At this point I have pretty much given up on using fin. 

Maybe I'll try xyon again now that I am using oral minox, but maybe not 

[lindros88]

6 hours ago, HairRun said:

Yeah, it was the side effects. At this point I used 3 different brands and various microdoses and frequencies. At this point I have pretty much given up on using fin. 

Maybe I'll try xyon again now that I am using oral minox, but maybe not 

Me too HairRun It's too bad. Have you had HT?

I am remaining on Minoxidil and going to try and get oral somehow in Canada.

[Hairtroubles]

39 minutes ago, lindros88 said:

Me too HairRun It's too bad. Have you had HT?

I am remaining on Minoxidil and going to try and get oral somehow in Canada.

You too also had sides on Xyon Topical Fin?  So sides exist on Xyon Topical?

[lindros88]

I can say with 100% conviction that sides existed for me with XYON. Had weak errctions entire time I was taking it. Went off and after a few days had my normal boner strength back

[Hairtroubles]

1 minute ago, lindros88 said:

I can say with 100% conviction that sides existed for me with XYON. Had weak errctions entire time I was taking it. Went off and after a few days had my normal boner strength back

So what you going to do for hair loss? What you taking?

[lindros88]

I’m just taking minoxidil foam 2x a day

[Hairtroubles]

5 minutes ago, lindros88 said:

I’m just taking minoxidil foam 2x a day

Took this and got heart palpitations after a month.

[lindros88]

I'm going to try 1x a week and see if that works

[HairRun]

5 hours ago, lindros88 said:

Me too HairRun It's too bad. Have you had HT?

I am remaining on Minoxidil and going to try and get oral somehow in Canada.

Yup, one botched-ish transplant from a doctor who had no concerns for my long term and actually gave me a lower and unnatural looking hairline than we agreed upon, then just got it repaired and replenished by one of the best and most ethical Doctors out there who absolutely took into account the scenario that I will lose it all. They relocated the lower grafts and came up with a conservative hairline that'll be maintainable once my hairloss pattern reaches its final form. 

If I respond to exomes + oral min + laser + sulforaphane, maybe we can work out a bit more. May also consider beard hair stuff. 

[HairRun]

5 hours ago, lindros88 said:

Me too HairRun It's too bad. Have you had HT?

I am remaining on Minoxidil and going to try and get oral somehow in Canada.

 

4 hours ago, lindros88 said:

I can say with 100% conviction that sides existed for me with XYON. Had weak errctions entire time I was taking it. Went off and after a few days had my normal boner strength back

 

Were you guys also taking topical min along with it? I am wondering if the carriers messed up keeping it in the scalp 

[Melvin- Admin]

I’ll be doing 3x per week. I’m surprised you still got side effects using it less. I believe the systemic reduction would be around 10% at 3x per week.

[HairRun]

6 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

I’ll be doing 3x per week. I’m surprised you still got side effects using it less. I believe the systemic reduction would be around 10% at 3x per week.

Are you going to be trying it with oral minox only, no topical? My hunch is that it's the stuff in the topical that messed it up. 

[lindros88]

1 hour ago, HairRun said:

 

 

Were you guys also taking topical min along with it? I am wondering if the carriers messed up keeping it in the scalp 

I was taking topical Min along with it. I am going to try taking the finasteride mid day to see what happens there, rather than with the minox. I was always taking at the same time. Probably gonna go 1-2x a week and see how we go. If no sides I will go back to 3.

 

Truthfully Ive never been able to push through the sides, even though there are studies that say that they can subside after continued use. I pretty much freak out every time that I feel the sides come on.

[TorontoMan]

Did hasson ever release the results/trials?

[BurnieBurns]

2 hours ago, lindros88 said:

I was taking topical Min along with it. I am going to try taking the finasteride mid day to see what happens there, rather than with the minox. I was always taking at the same time. Probably gonna go 1-2x a week and see how we go. If no sides I will go back to 3.

 

Truthfully Ive never been able to push through the sides, even though there are studies that say that they can subside after continued use. I pretty much freak out every time that I feel the sides come on.

I'm skeptical of the claim that sides can go away if you keep using it. I've never heard a single anecdote where someone had strong sides then went away while continuing use unless it was a nocebo

[Hairtroubles]

sorry, what is exomes &  sulforaphane!?

[Nemiline]

On 7/14/2022 at 3:08 PM, hockeyman said:

I'm interested in trying the Xyon topical. How long does it need to stay on the scalp before it would be ok to shower?  If a person applied this in the morning, is it okay to shower and wash hair in the evening?

Hello, i would like to know if there are any adivce on this or would it be somehow possible to ask for Dr Hasson's opinion this issue?

I perosnally wash my hair in the morning before I style it (recommendeded by stylist too to make it clean from oils etc then blowdry it and apply gels/sprays otherwise with the overnight oil secretion my hair looks terrible) and also at night when I shower +wash hair to remove styling products. So basicallt washing my hair twice.

This might be less of an issue for other formulations, but according to the studies and the youtube annluncement this drug is continulusly permeating into the skin steadily. Dr Hasson said something along the lines in the announcement of that when Melvin asked about MWF applicarion that washing it off would affect the storage of the drug on the scalp. So it seems like even I apply in the morning/evening once the effectivensss might be affected

 

On the other hand this might be a terrible idea for other topicals since they have a burst in absorbion in the first few hours(,https://www.xyonhealth.com/article/siloxyssystem-gel-results/), but maybe reapllying a second time could be a solution. This would increase the total exposure of the durg and potentially be a problem, but I am not sure if it matters. Also another main point is thougb xyon finasteeide has a relatively constant flux of aborption (again https://www.xyonhealth.com/article/siloxyssystem-gel-results/)  accoeidng to study 1 the slope is still a bit stepler in the first 8 hours so it might still be a problem overdosing if I reapply it.

 

Or maybe the gel couldn't be washed off so easily even with shampoo but I don't think its likely.

So to summarize Im not sure if there is a way out if I have to wash my hair twice daily.