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I never had an hair transplant. I'm losing hair on back of my head, under the nape. It is depressing and frustrating. I feel like a Norwood 8 or even 9. In addition to being totally bald, I'm losing the hair I still had. Anything I can do to prevent this?

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You’re definitely an exteme Norwood 7. In my opinion, it’s probably best to try smp. I’m not sure your donor is stable enough for a hair transplant. I wouldn’t even bother with meds, it’s too far gone now. 


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48 minutes ago, Westview said:

You're still about a NW7.  Your sides look half decent.

How is your beard and other body hair??

The sides are also dropping. I have a lot of beard and some hair on my body.

 
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28 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

You’re definitely an exteme Norwood 7. In my opinion, it’s probably best to try smp. I’m not sure your donor is stable enough for a hair transplant. I wouldn’t even bother with meds, it’s too far gone now. 

I don't want to have an head full of hair. Having some hairs on top and repair back is ok for me.

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23 minutes ago, Alterego said:

I don't want to have an head full of hair. Having some hairs on top and repair back is ok for me.

Honestly, I don’t believe an HT would be feasible for you. The donor doesn’t look stable.

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3 hours ago, Alterego said:

Hi all,


I never had an hair transplant. I'm losing hair on back of my head, under the nape. It is depressing and frustrating. I feel like a Norwood 8 or even 9. In addition to being totally bald, I'm losing the hair I still had. Anything I can do to prevent this?

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As others have said, it looks like you don't have enough healthy hairs in your head for a traditional HT using scalp hair. 

BUT, don't throw the towel yet. I have seen men in a similar situation as you getting their whole head covered again with BHT. But there is a catch: they had extremely good chest hair (and maybe back hair too). How is your hair in those areas?

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With no reliable scalp hair available it’s going to prove very tough to get any kind of decent coverage. SMP might be a option though. Ok even with BHT I it’s going to be difficult to find the grafts you would need with that level of balding.

I guess you have probably already tried the shaved head look ? 

 

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You should get in touch with Dr. Sanusi Umar. He specializes in body hair transplants. I believe Eugenix does this as well

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If you are happy for a 'very conservative' frontal framing of the face then you might just cross the line. But you will need to have taken Finasteride for 6-12 months to stabilize your donor. Personally I think SMP would suit you better plus it will also frame the face. You have no scars so you really should think twice about surgery. Many people have said that they wish that they never had surgery and just left their scalp the way it was. All the best.

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I always shave my hair, but degradation on the back is visible even if it is very short. What is the cause for this degradation? Should I go to fin?

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My goal is to minimize such a high level of baldness. Recovering the back and if possible put some hair on the head. I don't want a head full of hair, I'm bald since a very young age. Maybe some very similar with this pic from Bruce Willis:

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1 hour ago, UnbaldEagle said:

Just out of curiousity, OP, why is your main objective to at least keep that horseshoe? 😳 I mean if that's the echelon, surely shaving would be better? 😳

When the choice is either horseshoe or totally shaved bald, some guys prefer the horseshoe look. I think this is especially so for some men in their 50's and 60's who remember shaved heads meaning you were a neo nazi skinhead. Kevin Oleary is one example of someone who looks fine with the horsehoe hair look.

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5 minutes ago, Alterego said:

My goal is to minimize such a high level of baldness. Recovering the back and if possible put some hair on the head. I don't want a head full of hair, I'm bald since a very young age. Maybe some very similar with this pic from Bruce Willis:

 

If you have some decent beard and chest hair then that look should be achievable.

 

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A few hundred grafts will give you what Bruce Willis has on top, but it won't bring back your lateral humps and/or crown.  Maybe a small FUE and then a SMP procedure will get what you want.  

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2 hours ago, Alterego said:

I always shave my hair, but degradation on the back is visible even if it is very short. What is the cause for this degradation? Should I go to fin?

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My goal is to minimize such a high level of baldness. Recovering the back and if possible put some hair on the head. I don't want a head full of hair, I'm bald since a very young age. Maybe some very similar with this pic from Bruce Willis:

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You have retrograde alopecia. You could try minoxidil on that region. My opinion, it’s best to do smp and have that shaved look. That or do nothing. 

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19 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Honestly, I don’t believe an HT would be feasible for you. The donor doesn’t look stable.

No disrespect Melvin, but I disagree. 

I think he can get a decent result using BHT and scalp hair, but just for the top only.

He'll have to forget about the crown

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6 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

You have retrograde alopecia. You could try minoxidil on that region. My opinion, it’s best to do smp and have that shaved look. That or do nothing. 

Topical minoxidil?

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3 hours ago, Westview said:

No disrespect Melvin, but I disagree. 

I think he can get a decent result using BHT and scalp hair, but just for the top only.

He'll have to forget about the crown

Which is the best clinic in Europe for this kind of job? They provide remote consultation?

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31 minutes ago, Alterego said:

Which is the best clinic in Europe for this kind of job? They provide remote consultation?

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Here you go: https://www.hairlosscure2020.com/list-of-surgeons-who-offer-body-hair-to-head-hair-transplants/

But if I were you I'd really do  my homework and find the best clinic.

You only have one shot at this, you dont wanna mess it up

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Alterego said:

Topical minoxidil is useful for my retrograde alopecia?

I don't think it's likely to do much, but you never know. I also have retrograde and haven't seen much improvement when I've tried, though I don't seem to respond much to minoxidil. How long has yours been like that?

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