Regular Member Nccan Posted June 3, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, BaldBobby said: sue on what grounds? truth is a defense to slander. He has no grounds, but it takes 0 effort from Koray Erdogan to have a law firm harass you and drag you through court no matter the outcome, its an age old tactic the rich use to keep people in line Edited June 3, 2022 by Nccan 2 Failed transplants for 3000 grafts at ASMED clinic, destroyed donor and recipient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mafpe Posted June 3, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 12:13 PM, Nccan said: You would think that, but koray erdogan hires LOCAL lawfirms to threaten and harass you... i respect your decision to try avoid more harrassment and etc since these are very distruptive to life. but wheter or not you want to deal with them, i suggest you record and collect evidence that they actually do. if they did try to do anything, you can countersue or sue them for harrassments and threats. of course, if it comes to that, it will cost money however. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 5, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 6/2/2022 at 10:12 AM, Nccan said: Hey mate, any updates? This gives me some hope I can have my botched job from that criminal koray erdogan fixed, but my donor Is more destroyed.. Hello. Here you are 8 and 1/2 months update. Sorry for hairstyle, but I usually combe my hair to the side. Today I combed hair up due the photos. And yes, I know what about you speak. Dr. Couto returned a smile to my face. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 5, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 6/2/2022 at 12:40 PM, Z-- said: This is the best turn around I've seen and perfectly captures the gulf in class between a doctor like Couto compared to ASMED and proof that $$ isn't everything. Crazy to think a few years back he was the most desired doctor and considered one of the elites. The difference is night and day. Your hair looks stunning and so full! I hope everyone else that had a botched job posts their story, because as I said earlier in this very thread, one example of such made me rethink going there and saved me a world of heartache. Thanks again!! Thank you. Exactly. I think my 2 results show the difference between good doctor/clinic and bad doctor/clinic. Yes, I remember one thread called: Is Erdogan the king of hair transplant? Now he is a doctor (and Asmed the clinic) to avoid. But there are still a few people who think it can't happen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 5, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 6/2/2022 at 7:19 PM, jjsrader said: Erdogan - turned art & science into a moneygrab. I would have respected him if he stopped doing surgery & hand-picked & trained just a couple really talented protege's & trusted experienced techs & been the 'jewel of Turkey' - whilst still making a handsome living. He went another way. I'm sure he sleeps on piles of cash everynight - very restorative for him I am sure. Yes, like I wrote, I had consultations with around 20 doctors/clinics. I have heard several times: Erdogan was a good doctor but the way he runs his clinic is bad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted June 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2022 19 hours ago, miko said: Hello. Here you are 8 and 1/2 months update. Sorry for hairstyle, but I usually combe my hair to the side. Today I combed hair up due the photos. And yes, I know what about you speak. Dr. Couto returned a smile to my face. G R E A T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member drawdownfx Posted June 7, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2022 Amazing. Congrats on getting your smile back 🙂 My hair transplant Journey with Dr. Freitas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 12, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/6/2022 at 6:32 PM, duchaine said: G R E A T Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 12, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 11:23 AM, drawdownfx said: Amazing. Congrats on getting your smile back 🙂 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Koray Erdogan is one the worst hairmills out there. I've seen so many bad results from his uneducated nurses over the years.... He's ruined so many lives. From what I see, I would say a good 30% (if not more) of cases in his practice have extremely poor survival. And I've seen several cases of overharvesting. His "fame", fake online reputation, coverage value theories, conferences, futuristic clinic is all complete BS... It's sad that so many young folks fall into the trap. Anyways, I am happy you were able to get repaired by Couto and restored a normal appearence. Enjoy your great head of hair ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 12, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Hair transplant is a huge said: Koray Erdogan is one the worst hairmills out there. I've seen so many bad results from his uneducated nurses over the years.... He's ruined so many lives. From what I see, I would say a good 30% (if not more) of cases in his practice have extremely poor survival. And I've seen several cases of overharvesting. His "fame", fake online reputation, coverage value theories, conferences, futuristic clinic is all complete BS... It's sad that so many young folks fall into the trap. Anyways, I am happy you were able to get repaired by Couto and restored a normal appearence. Enjoy your great head of hair ! Yes. Unfortunatelly I was one of 30% who had very low survivalence if grafts. I know what about you wrote. I had destroyed life, low self confidence for 4 years, since my final result from Asmed to my 2nd HT with Dr. Couto. Asmed invests a lot of money to PR, but their reputation is very bad now. With their number of grafts, they are more expensive than reliable clinics, which achieve a better result with half of the number of grafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, miko said: Yes. Unfortunatelly I was one of 30% who had very low survivalence if grafts. I know what about you wrote. I had destroyed life, low self confidence for 4 years, since my final result from Asmed to my 2nd HT with Dr. Couto. Asmed invests a lot of money to PR, but their reputation is very bad now. With their number of grafts, they are more expensive than reliable clinics, which achieve a better result with half of the number of grafts. 100% agree. There was a very similar case to yours published a few weeks ago. Zero survival. 5000 grafts wasted. And instead of offering a refund or at least a free touch-up (which should be unwise to accept of course bcuz they would destroy even more grafts..), Koray requested more money for a 2nd surgery....🤦♀️ Their ethics are terrible. But like you said, the good news is their reputation has become very bad now on most hairloss forums and Koray was busted. They have many bad results on the international hairloss forum too (the french forum). I agree that ASMED is by far the worst clinic in the 2.5€ price range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Nccan Posted June 13, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted June 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Hair transplant is a huge said: 100% agree. There was a very similar case to yours published a few weeks ago. Zero survival. 5000 grafts wasted. And instead of offering a refund or at least a free touch-up (which should be unwise to accept of course bcuz they would destroy even more grafts..), Koray requested more money for a 2nd surgery....🤦♀️ Their ethics are terrible. But like you said, the good news is their reputation has become very bad now on most hairloss forums and Koray was busted. They have many bad results on the international hairloss forum too (the french forum). I agree that ASMED is by far the worst clinic in the 2.5€ price range... And the very toughest pill to swallow, Koray Erdogan took our very best grafts and flushed them down the toilet, the 3's, 4's and 5's.. and he scarred the recipient and compromised the blood flow so any future transplants will likely be sub par.. all in the name of greed, ruining lives for 💰 Failed transplants for 3000 grafts at ASMED clinic, destroyed donor and recipient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 15, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 11:43 PM, Hair transplant is a huge said: 100% agree. There was a very similar case to yours published a few weeks ago. Zero survival. 5000 grafts wasted. And instead of offering a refund or at least a free touch-up (which should be unwise to accept of course bcuz they would destroy even more grafts..), Koray requested more money for a 2nd surgery....🤦♀️ Their ethics are terrible. But like you said, the good news is their reputation has become very bad now on most hairloss forums and Koray was busted. They have many bad results on the international hairloss forum too (the french forum). I agree that ASMED is by far the worst clinic in the 2.5€ price range... Yes, Asmed waste a lot of grafts of their patients. My grafts survivalence was very poor (I am attaching a photo where is visible how many grafts left after HT at Asmed). Asmed has very bad hairline design, graft survivalence are very low and they need much more grafts like reliable clinics for their results which are poor. But the worse is the attitude to their patients. Lies, lies, lies trying to get more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 15, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 12:24 PM, Nccan said: And the very toughest pill to swallow, Koray Erdogan took our very best grafts and flushed them down the toilet, the 3's, 4's and 5's.. and he scarred the recipient and compromised the blood flow so any future transplants will likely be sub par.. all in the name of greed, ruining lives for 💰 Yes. The very best grafts in terms of quality and also quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 what causes poor graft survial is it poorly done extractions and handling of the grafts after taking them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted June 16, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, sukh123 said: what causes poor graft survial is it poorly done extractions and handling of the grafts after taking them out It's one reason, also not keeping them in the correct conditions outside the body and keeping them too long Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted June 19, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 6:56 AM, sukh123 said: what causes poor graft survial is it poorly done extractions and handling of the grafts after taking them out I spoke about it with doctors during my consultations. The answer was: Unexperienced technicians and long time outside of the body... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member botchedguy95 Posted July 3, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) On 6/19/2022 at 5:34 PM, miko said: I spoke about it with doctors during my consultations. The answer was: Unexperienced technicians and long time outside of the body... Did they make any comment on the state of your donor after ASMED? Edited July 3, 2022 by botchedguy95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted July 3, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2022 11 hours ago, botchedguy95 said: Did they make any comment on the state of your donor after ASMED? Yes, almost all of them told me that my donor is destroyed, almost exhausted, depleted, very limited, etc... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GioLam Posted November 11, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted November 11, 2022 Hey @miko - any update on your incredible result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member botchedguy95 Posted November 11, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted November 11, 2022 Amazing repair, but can we change the title of this so that future patients do not think this is an ASMED result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted November 28, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 28, 2022 Hi guys. I am sorry for late response. Here you are some pics from today (14 months since HT with Dr. Couto). One picture from interior and four pictures from exterior with normal autumn daylight, cloudy weather. Thank you in advance for every opinion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted November 28, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 11:02 AM, botchedguy95 said: Amazing repair, but can we change the title of this so that future patients do not think this is an ASMED result? Yes, you are right. Maybe better title will be: Terrible result of hair transplant at ASMED clinic with Dr. Koray Erdogan repaired at Fuexpert clinic with Dr. Juan Couto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gramatik Posted November 28, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted November 28, 2022 Great result. Couto is the best in Spain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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