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[ej]

Yes, really!

 

I know that this was a misquote, as I am also in the other thread. This quote was from the user "Superdudeo". But I do not care for this personal topics.

 

What I care for are results, and these results are bad! And not bad because of bad growth, which even the best clincs have 1 out of 100 times. The planning is bad from the begin with. And these are handpicked results of the clinic showcasing their best results. Please ....

 

No they are not, one case is a repair with `2000 fue chest hair`to compare these results to what other clinics showcase is ridiculous!

 

It is like comparing apples and oranges. Most of these videos are repair procedures, an extremely difficult procedure from the outset.

 

Neither of us know if this is the finished result or well planned repair work to maximise the yield over several procedures ..... result pending, either way the clients are in a much better place

Edited March 8, 2018 by ej

[AusNY]

So what about Dr Alam. AMS clinic, his wedsite shows some good results and he is based in Brisbane which is my capital city. Has anyone had any contact with him or know any info on forums etc that I can review? I have sent an email and waiting a reply from him.

[ej]

I have never heard of him to be honest. Seems he offers other procedures also, which would concern me as not solely doing hair restoration. Also quotes in hairs not grafts which I find can be misleading.

 

As I said earlier I would consult with one doc in oz.

 

Looking at your pictures I would see how a shorter style looked, I honestly do not think you need a transplant at this time your hair looks good from what I can see.

[Gasthoerer]

No they are not, one case is a repair with `2000 fue chest hair`to compare these results to what other clinics showcase is ridiculous!

 

Neither of us know if this is the finished result or well planned repair work to maximise the yield over several procedures ..... result pending, either way the clients are in a much better place

 

Come on, do you work for this clinic? Why did you not go there if they are so great?

 

Many of this cases are not repairs and the results posted by the clinic (!) are horrble. Way to few grafts. Very uneven Distribution... It also says "before and after". It does not say "Half way through".

[ej]

Come on, do you work for this clinic? Why did you not go there if they are so great?

 

Many of this cases are not repairs and the results posted by the clinic (!) are horrble. Way to few grafts. Very uneven Distribution... It also says "before and after". It does not say "Half way through".

 

I am happy with my hair thank you, and if I worked for any clinic then I would disclose it as the forum rules request, if you had taken the time to read them then you would know this.

 

What I did say was this clinic was worth a `consult` as it can only benefit the op, and give him valuable info, density available, courseness of his hair, overall donor quality, predicted pattern of loss etc and what can realistically be achieved. It is strange that you would attack me for this ?

 

The results regardless of what you think are very good considering the low number of grafts used. Plenty of donor left for the future if needed and small sessions to maximise yield. I suspect half of the `cherry picked` videos to be repair work and without the doctors or clients input we do not know. What we do know is that repair work seems to have a better yield with `smaller sessions` due to micro-scarring and poor vascularity

 

I am curious as to why someone would take the time and effort to trawl through a doctors results on youtube to `cherry pick` the majority of repair cases and then present them whilst not posting a comparable case that was also there, of 3500 k grafts fue? The client `leo` has had 3500k fue into zones 1,2,3,4 a norwood 5, he has exceedingly good results and a great yield. Perhaps this doctor turns away 21 year olds who want 3500k grafts into their hairline, who knows?

[JayLDD]

I am happy with my hair thank you, and if I worked for any clinic then I would disclose it as the forum rules request, if you had taken the time to read them then you would know this.

 

What I did say was this clinic was worth a `consult` as it can only benefit the op, and give him valuable info, density available, courseness of his hair, overall donor quality, predicted pattern of loss etc and what can realistically be achieved. It is strange that you would attack me for this ?

 

The results regardless of what you think are very good considering the low number of grafts used. Plenty of donor left for the future if needed and small sessions to maximise yield. I suspect half of the `cherry picked` videos to be repair work and without the doctors or clients input we do not know. What we do know is that repair work seems to have a better yield with `smaller sessions` due to micro-scarring and poor vascularity

 

I am curious as to why someone would take the time and effort to trawl through a doctors results on youtube to `cherry pick` the majority of repair cases and then present them whilst not posting a comparable case that was also there, of 3500 k grafts fue? The client `leo` has had 3500k fue into zones 1,2,3,4 a norwood 5, he has exceedingly good results and a great yield. Perhaps this doctor turns away 21 year olds who want 3500k grafts into their hairline, who knows?

 

The majority I showed weren't repair cases. I specifically don't think he should have a consultation in Austrlia because as a noob patient there's a possibility he gets suckered into the marketing of the clinics he goes to a consult with, makes a bad decision and ends up butchering himself. In particular I wouldn't trust a consult of Woods because his beliefs and results are way out of wack with the rest of the industry, the information he receives is unlikely to be helpful.

 

Honestly OP, I would strongly recommend you don't waste time with a consult with any Australian clinic and stick with Erdogan. If you want some other options for extra opinions, consult Lorenzo and Lupanzula who are also in Europe, but they're quite a bit more expensive.

 

"Perhaps this doctor turns away 21 year olds who want 3500k grafts into their hairline, who knows?"

 

What is noble about this? A surgeon who is unwilling to perform an aggressive hairline restoration on ANY patient in their early twenties is simply not confident in their abilities as a surgeon, or purely focused on reputation via virtue signalling. There is no logical reason to think this. Americans can join the army and risk their lives at seventeen years old, the idea that a guy in their early twenties on finasteride can't accept the risks of a hair transplant to undertake an aggressive hairline restoration like a guy in their 30s is absurd.

[JayLDD]

I am happy with my hair thank you, and if I worked for any clinic then I would disclose it as the forum rules request, if you had taken the time to read them then you would know this.

 

What I did say was this clinic was worth a `consult` as it can only benefit the op, and give him valuable info, density available, courseness of his hair, overall donor quality, predicted pattern of loss etc and what can realistically be achieved. It is strange that you would attack me for this ?

 

The results regardless of what you think are very good considering the low number of grafts used. Plenty of donor left for the future if needed and small sessions to maximise yield. I suspect half of the `cherry picked` videos to be repair work and without the doctors or clients input we do not know. What we do know is that repair work seems to have a better yield with `smaller sessions` due to micro-scarring and poor vascularity

 

I am curious as to why someone would take the time and effort to trawl through a doctors results on youtube to `cherry pick` the majority of repair cases and then present them whilst not posting a comparable case that was also there, of 3500 k grafts fue? The client `leo` has had 3500k fue into zones 1,2,3,4 a norwood 5, he has exceedingly good results and a great yield. Perhaps this doctor turns away 21 year olds who want 3500k grafts into their hairline, who knows?

 

The majority I showed weren't repair cases. I specifically don't think he should have a consultation in Australia because as a noob patient there's a possibility he gets suckered into the marketing of the clinics he goes to a consult with, makes a bad decision and ends up butchering himself. In particular I wouldn't trust a consult of W00ds because his beliefs and results are way out of wack with the rest of the industry, the information he receives is unlikely to be helpful. What can "realistically be achieved" is dependent on the skill of the surgeon, which is low in the case of W00ds and therefore his commentary on that potential is going to be low.

 

Honestly OP, I would strongly recommend you don't waste time with a consult with any Australian clinic and stick with Erdogan. If you want some other options for extra opinions, consult Lorenzo and Lupanzula who are also in Europe, but they're quite a bit more expensive.

 

"Perhaps this doctor turns away 21 year olds who want 3500k grafts into their hairline, who knows?"

 

Also what is noble about this? A surgeon who is unwilling to perform an aggressive hairline restoration on ANY patient in their early twenties is simply not confident in their abilities as a surgeon, or purely focused on reputation via virtue signalling. There is no logical reason to think this. Americans can join the army and risk their lives at seventeen years old, the idea that a guy in their early twenties on finasteride (85% chance of maintenance of baseline to at least 10 years) can't accept the risks of a hair transplant to undertake an aggressive hairline restoration like a guy in their 30s is absurd.

[ej]

The majority I showed weren't repair cases. I specifically don't think he should have a consultation in Australia because as a noob patient there's a possibility he gets suckered into the marketing of the clinics he goes to a consult with, makes a bad decision and ends up butchering himself. In particular I wouldn't trust a consult of W00ds because his beliefs and results are way out of wack with the rest of the industry, the information he receives is unlikely to be helpful. What can "realistically be achieved" is dependent on the skill of the surgeon, which is low in the case of W00ds and therefore his commentary on that potential is going to be low.

 

Honestly OP, I would strongly recommend you don't waste time with a consult with any Australian clinic and stick with Erdogan. If you want some other options for extra opinions, consult Lorenzo and Lupanzula who are also in Europe, but they're quite a bit more expensive.

 

"Perhaps this doctor turns away 21 year olds who want 3500k grafts into their hairline, who knows?"

 

Also what is noble about this? A surgeon who is unwilling to perform an aggressive hairline restoration on ANY patient in their early twenties is simply not confident in their abilities as a surgeon, or purely focused on reputation via virtue signalling. There is no logical reason to think this. Americans can join the army and risk their lives at seventeen years old, the idea that a guy in their early twenties on finasteride (85% chance of maintenance of baseline to at least 10 years) can't accept the risks of a hair transplant to undertake an aggressive hairline restoration like a guy in their 30s is absurd.

 

The highlighted text is exactly why the OP should not listen to somebody like you. If anyone could direct me to the `ignore member` button I would be grateful

ej

[JayLDD]

The highlighted text is exactly why the OP should not listen to somebody like you. If anyone could direct me to the `ignore member` button I would be grateful

ej

 

Despite the fact that you act as if that is self-evident with zero evidence to back it up, and think that Dr Woods work is anything but butchery. You're embarrassing.

[JayLDD]

The highlighted text is exactly why the OP should not listen to somebody like you. If anyone could direct me to the `ignore member` button I would be grateful

ej

 

"Somebody like you"

 

As in someone who actually cares about facts? Someone who tells others to avoid clinics entirely that could potentially put them in a dangerous situation?

 

Despite the fact that you act as your claims are self-evident with zero evidence to back anything up, and think that Dr W00ds work is anything but butchery. You're embarrassing.

[jjsrader]

I love a good catfight! Keep debating - great theatre guys!

[Mikey1970]

Dr WOOds fixed me up after a botched touch up by another Aussie Dr. Agreed he is expensive but I don't think anyone could say he is bad at his craft. Some of his results are outstanding & on advanced Norwoods.