Regular Member Mariana345 Posted June 1, 2017 Regular Member Share Posted June 1, 2017 I had a 3805 graft FUE transplant last year from a recommended surgeon with this site. Here are the details: Scalp grafts - 2828 Beard grafts - 676 Chest grafts - 301 Singles - 418 Doubles - 1625 Triples - 785 Hairline - 2125 Crown - 1379 Below, in order, are 3 pre-op photos and 3 post-op photos from the week of the operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-from-Farjo Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Pics not the best quality so hard to really judge but the work appears good. Where are the twelve month pics? I am an online representative for Farjo Hair Institute Dr. Bessam Farjo is an esteemed member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mariana345 Posted June 1, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 1, 2017 The following photos display two patients that exhibit similar hair loss patterns to my own. These two cases, as well as several others, were referenced specifically and thoroughly both during my email conversations with the physician and especially during my pre-operative consultation. A mutual agreement was set between my physician and myself that these goals were very reasonable, and that these caliber results would be easily attainable given my specifications. My physician assured me in particular that I would get better results than the blonde patient displayed below. These were the realistic expectations that were set for my case. Anything less would have not given me conviction to proceed with the procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mariana345 Posted June 1, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 1, 2017 These are the results at 12 days shy of 12 months post-operation. The black tape is to separate the non-transplanted hair from the transplanted hairline. I am highly dissatisfied and unhappy with the results. They have without question fallen short of the assured expectations I was given by my physician. I am trying to remain optimistic about my situation, and curious to hear what experienced members here have to say. I have no interest in identifying or naming physicians at this time. I am aiming to reach a civil and amicable solution to this situation. I'm here to seek objective feedback. I would also like to thank the creators/moderators for offering this site as a platform that offers transparency and accountability for patients like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 Not a good result. I don't think being wet or the length is doobg jt any favors, but I'd still say not a good result. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SADbutTRUE Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 I agree with spanker,not a solid result,the hairline looks very sparse ,you have any pics with dry hair ,its looks like your hair is wet in after pics.are you on any meds for hairloss,maybe combing your hair forward will give better coverage,how is the donor area looking? thanks for sharing your story ,hang in there and try to stay positive .I wish you the best in moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ernie Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 Sorry to see this man. You should try to get a refund if possible. If it's not a big chain like Bosley, Ziering, etc, your clinic might consider it if you use this forum as leverage. Probably your best bet, as I'm sure your paperwork prevents you from any legal recourse. I mean, work WAS performed afterall, albeit sh1tty ya know? Bummer result, sorry man 3185 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 2/17/16 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182611-fut-3185-dr-rahal-day-after-pics.html 1204 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 3/27/17 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186586-round-2-rahal-1204-fut-frontal-third-same-area.html ---> total of 4389 grafts to my frontal third via FUT ---> 1mg finasteride daily since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sean Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 Interesting case. That is not a good result. It is See through. If it is see through, it goes against the objective of a good hair transplant. Too sparse overall. Be careful with repair and pace this out if you have to. Definitely needs a reasonable solution. If it is a recommended surgeon they should assist you. I am hoping mine fills in by November too. Sparsity, see through, not blending in well are all valid concerns. Hope you get this sorted out soon. Wish you the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeloDinero Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Who was your surgeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mick50 Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 Who was your surgeon? Here we go again, why should he name the surgeon until he has tried to resolve the issue with the surgeon be it through a refund or repair . He naturally wants the best outcome for himself and he's not going to get that by giving the Doc bad press without giving him/her a chance to resolve the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeloDinero Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Here we go again, why should he name the surgeon until he has tried to resolve the issue with the surgeon be it through a refund or repair . He naturally wants the best outcome for himself and he's not going to get that by giving the Doc bad press without giving him/her a chance to resolve the issue. A bad result is a bad result. I don't understand this mentality that we should protect the surgeon. You don't protect the restaurant on Yelp if you have a bad experience. The whole point of this forum is to put the power in the patient's hand by giving him the most transparent information possible. If I were shopping around for a surgeon right now, I'd like to know the name of this one so I can stay as far away from him/her as humanly possible. Also, if it was done by some unaccredited quack job, people can toss it up to a bad surgeon and not to the short-comings of FUE, patient physiology, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JayLDD Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 A bad result is a bad result. I don't understand this mentality that we should protect the surgeon. You don't protect the restaurant on Yelp if you have a bad experience. The whole point of this forum is to put the power in the patient's hand by giving him the most transparent information possible. If I were shopping around for a surgeon right now, I'd liketo know the name of this one so I can stay as far away from him/her as humanly possible. Also, if it was done by some unaccredited quack job, people can toss it up to a bad surgeon and not to the short-comings of FUE, patient physiology, etc. Your posts always have this silly thoughtless attitude. Think a little bit, he isn't PROTECTING THE SURGEON, he is PROTECTING HIS CHANCES FOR RECOURSE SUCH AS A REFUND. By keeping it quiet and using the forum as leverage it makes it easier to request a refund, as it gives him the option to keep it quiet as long as they get the money back to him. Without this leverage it becomes more difficult. Think. Not hard. HT1: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/48494-asmed-koray-erdogan-3070-grafts-april-10th/ HT2: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51224-3038-grafts-fue-asmed-koray-erdogan-30th-april/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mick50 Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 A bad result is a bad result. I don't understand this mentality that we should protect the surgeon. You don't protect the restaurant on Yelp if you have a bad experience. The whole point of this forum is to put the power in the patient's hand by giving him the most transparent information possible. If I were shopping around for a surgeon right now, I'd liketo know the name of this one so I can stay as far away from him/her as humanly possible. Also, if it was done by some unaccredited quack job, people can toss it up to a bad surgeon and not to the short-comings of FUE, patient physiology, etc. It's not about protecting the surgeon it's about moving forward from where the OP is now . One bad result doesn't mean it's a quack /bad surgeon. Anyone who decides on a hair transplant has to be prepared that for whatever reason it may fail ,what separates the good/caring Doctor from a chancer is how he deals with an unhappy patient post op ,if the OP isn't treated with compassion and given a satisfactory explanation why it failed then of course go public and expose the Doc, just think sometimes better to hold fire ,if the Doctor does the right thing shouldn't be a problem naming him anyway. Also according to the OP it was a recommended Doctor who performed the op so presumably not an unaccredited quack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JayLDD Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 It's not about protecting the surgeon it's about moving forward from where the OP is now .One bad result doesn't mean it's a quack /bad surgeon. Anyone who decides on a hair transplant has to be prepared that for whatever reason it may fail ,what separates the good/caring Doctor from a chancer is how he deals with an unhappy patient post op ,if the OP isn't treated with compassion and given a satisfactory explanation why it failed then of course go public and expose the Doc, just think sometimes better to hold fire ,if the Doctor does the right thing shouldn't be a problem naming him anyway. Particularly when dealing with some of the more arrogant doctors, the difference between holding your tongue initially and coming out guns blazing is the difference between getting a refund or getting a lawsuit, for the exact same result. HT1: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/48494-asmed-koray-erdogan-3070-grafts-april-10th/ HT2: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51224-3038-grafts-fue-asmed-koray-erdogan-30th-april/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mick50 Posted June 2, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 2, 2017 Particularly when dealing with some of the more arrogant doctors, the difference between holding your tongue initially and coming out guns blazing is the difference between getting a refund or getting a lawsuit, for the exact same result. Good point, not where I was coming from but something to take on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mariana345 Posted June 6, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 Update: I sent the 12-month results to my doctor. He informed me that the photos were presented insufficiently. He insisted that my hair should be: - dry - "styled as if I were going outside" - in "normal" lighting - without black tape I am especially confused about the the styling critique. One, I can't style my hair at all with what I have. And two, I don't ever, EVER go out of my house without a great deal of Toppik and Dermmatch in my hair. I am effectively a prisoner to concealer, and it takes a considerable amount of time for me to even look presentable. But going without it is not an option at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mariana345 Posted June 6, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 These are the photos I just emailed my physician in attempt to give fair presentations. In these photos, my hair is freshly showered, completely dry, and combed over in the same style as the black-haired patient (see the two similar patients exhibited at the beginning of the forum). I have taken the photos outside on an overcast day during the afternoon. I have not separated the transplanted hairline from the lower non-transplanted hairline this time due to the request for no tape, however I feel this is not a problem since my previous photos already establish the distinction. I have also proposed a resolution in the email to my physician regarding my predicament. My feelings on my near 12-month results are unchanged. Still trying to remain optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sean Posted June 6, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 Based on those recent pics, Man I hope you get this sorted. A thing with most phone pics is they tend to add pixelation or blur so it may enhance the result artificially. If you are at 12 months, then not sure as to what could change to give you an added boost with the grafts you already had placed in the months ahead. I think most folks can agree that much more filling will be needed to enhance the current situation. I really hope you get this sorted, and, with a recommended surgeon, I do not see why you wont be able to. Best of luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mariana345 Posted June 6, 2017 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 6, 2017 Based on those recent pics, Man I hope you get this sorted. A thing with most phone pics is they tend to add pixelation or blur so it may enhance the result artificially. If you are at 12 months, then not sure as to what could change to give you an added boost with the grafts you already had placed in the months ahead. I think most folks can agree that much more filling will be needed to enhance the current situation. I really hope you get this sorted, and, with a recommended surgeon, I do not see why you wont be able to. Best of luck to you. Thanks for your words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Marianna, Sorry for the delayed response. I also see that you've emailed me privately so I will be speaking with you there. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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