**PHOTOS** Question for the community: WHICH IS WHICH ???

[Dr. Alan Feller]

Dr Feller - could you comment on why you use the grid-placement of the grafts?

 

At first I used it to keep my recipient site slit making in straight lines when I switched from sagital to coronal slits. After a while I didn't need it anymore but realized that the extra reference points came in handy when working. When I make recipient sites I wear magnifiers and you can actually get "lost" when your in the recipient area, so the grid lines help orient me. Also, it comes in handy for visual reference when you want to create density differences through the recipient area. Today I did two procedures. The second patient I made uniform density throughout the "2-3 FU" area. But the first patient I varied the density of the "2-3 FUs" to account for his native forelock hair. The grid lines made it very easy for me to remember where to change density.

[Dr. Alan Feller]

Dr Feller - could you comment on why you use the grid-placement of the grafts?

 

At first I used it to keep my recipient site slit making in straight lines when I switched from sagital to coronal slits. After a while I didn't need it anymore but realized that the extra reference points came in handy when working. When I make recipient sites I wear magnifiers and you can actually get "lost" when your in the recipient area, so the grid lines help orient me. Also, it comes in handy for visual reference when you want to create density differences through the recipient area. Today I did two procedures. The second patient I made uniform density throughout the "2-3 FU" area. But the first patient I varied the density of the "2-3 FUs" to account for his native forelock hair. The grid lines made it very easy for me to remember where to change density.

[stairstre]

The point you are pushing is that the yield will be lower in the FUE case so grafts need to be placed more densely over a smaller area.

 

In opinion, the only thing that Dr. Feller has done is show the online community that he is not confident in his FUE ability. Of course FUE yield would be bad in the hands of Dr. Feller, he has openly admitted that he sucks at it.

 

So basically we have someone who knows that he is bad at FUE telling the rest of us (many who have had successful FUE) that the procedure is flawed. When in reality it's Dr. Feller's FUE technique that is flawed.

 

Dr. Feller can't do FUE by his own admission.

 

While his videos are entertaining, they also reveal one simple fact. Well two actually: his business is hurting and he is spending more time entertaining than performing surgery. Just look at the "modified FUE" as an example. It''s an act of desperation and every reputable HT doctor is lughing i'm sure.

 

Thanks for setting the industry back 10 years Dr. Feller with your modified FUE nonsense. (aka: the dinosaur).

[Dr. Alan Feller]

In opinion, the only thing that Dr. Feller has done is show the online community that he is not confident in his FUE ability. Of course FUE yield would be bad in the hands of Dr. Feller, he has openly admitted that he sucks at it.

 

So basically we have someone who knows that he is bad at FUE telling the rest of us (many who have had successful FUE) that the procedure is flawed. When in reality it's Dr. Feller's FUE technique that is flawed.

 

Dr. Feller can't do FUE by his own admission.

 

While his videos are entertaining, they also reveal one simple fact. Well two actually: his business is hurting and he is spending more time entertaining than performing surgery. Just look at the "modified FUE" as an example. It''s an act of desperation and every reputable HT doctor is lughing i'm sure.

 

Thanks for setting the industry back 10 years Dr. Feller with your modified FUE nonsense. (aka: the dinosaur).

 

Unfortunately, I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to disagree. Thank you for saying my video's are entertaining, though. At least I don't "suck" at everything.

[stairstre]

Unfortunately, I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to disagree. Thank you for saying my video's are entertaining, though. At least I don't "suck" at everything.

 

You're ok at strip Dr. Feller. I've seen your work in person. Hairline work is ok. No doubles. Nice irregular pattern. Crappy design in my opinion though. I would not rate you as an A-list hair transplant doctor. Most would agree on this form. But a solid B-list.

 

With the likes of Bernstein and Rassman. You won't get a botched hair transplant... but don't expect a home run either. Just average. My 65 year old dad would be happy.

 

That brings me to something... why does your signature and website say you offer FUE when you're so against it?

[BadBeat]

Like I said about 5 pages ago.....this thread is nothing more than another attempt to discredit FUE by Dr. Feller. At this point, I'm starting to think he just wants to publicity, even if it's negative.

[Dr. Alan Feller]

You're ok at strip Dr. Feller. I've seen your work in person. Hairline work is ok. No doubles. Nice irregular pattern. Crappy design in my opinion though. I would not rate you as an A-list hair transplant doctor. Most would agree on this form. But a solid B-list.

 

With the likes of Bernstein and Rassman. You won't get a botched hair transplant... but don't expect a home run either. Just average. My 65 year old dad would be happy.

 

That brings me to something... why does your signature and website say you offer FUE when you're so against it?

 

Thanks for the critique. How would you change the design? Do I do the same on every patient? What would make me an "A" in your opinion?

 

FUE is in my signature because I offer it. But I know what you mean. I am not against FUE. I I've been intrigued by it since it was first introduced. But from a technical standpoint it has limitations and a point of diminishing returns. The larger the case, the more the diminishing returns. As I did larger and larger cases years ago, I began to see not only the decreasing yields, but the increasing fibrosis throughout the donor area. Then as I began to see the patients of other doctors doing larger FUE cases I knew the current methods of FUE were inadequate. Until someone comes up with a revolutionary way of doing FUE, it should be limited to smaller cases.

 

Your thoughts?

[Dr. Alan Feller]

Like I said about 5 pages ago.....this thread is nothing more than another attempt to discredit FUE by Dr. Feller. At this point, I'm starting to think he just wants to publicity, even if it's negative.

 

I don't wish to discredit FUE. I wish to make it more transparent and understandable to patients. Unlike FUT, this procedure started in secrecy. And to a great extent it is still veiled in secrecy. I'm just throwing a little light on it. I'm sorry if this offends you but it's not intended that way.

[stairstre]

Your thoughts?

 

Please stop performing FUE Dr. Feller. By your own admission, you're terrible at it. Schedule FUE training. Perfect your technique with smaller FUE procedures. But don't charge patients to practice on their head like Dr. Hasson. Be honest with patients. Tell them you're terrible at FUE but want to learn. Show them these threads. In time, you will get better. I promise.

 

But hey... if you were really against FUE for moral reasons you would remove it from your signature and website. But you won't. It's what people want. You will use it as an opportunity to sell a lie in my opinion.

 

The lie is known as modified FUE.

[lileli]

Please stop performing FUE Dr. Feller. By your own admission, you're terrible at it. Schedule FUE training. Perfect your technique with smaller FUE procedures. But don't charge patients to practice on their head like Dr. Hasson. Be honest with patients. Tell them you're terrible at FUE but want to learn. Show them these threads. In time, you will get better. I promise.

 

But hey... if you were really against FUE for moral reasons you would remove it from your signature and website. But you won't. It's what people want. You will use it as an opportunity to sell a lie in my opinion.

 

The lie is known as modified FUE.

 

Is Dr. Hasson standing by his fue work?

[stairstre]

Hey lileli,

 

Discussed on another thread. Dr. Hasson has no FUE results but is charging guys top dollar to practice on their head in my opinion. Basically riding the popularity of his FUT..

 

Don't want to take this thread away from Dr. Feller though. I've grabbed some popcorn and about to watch one of his videos.

[mav23100gunther]

Sorry, Mav.

Play again !

 

All good Doc - well, I guess you are just going to keep dreaming about performing a MFUE on my head!!

[FUE2014]

Not to detract from this thread either, but I don't know why anyone would go to Hasson & Wong for FUE (based on their inexperience in this area and lack of results) unless they are being offered massive discounts so H&W can promote their FUE. Not to say H&W won't become Kings of FUE in a few years time however.

[Matt27]

Dr Feller - could you comment on why you use the grid-placement of the grafts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Completely untrue, Bisanga in particular. Biology works the same way in Europe as it does in the USA. Btw, ask Bisanga if he disagrees with Feller on the pros and cons of FUE. I think we all know where Dr B will stand.

 

I'm under the impression that Bisanga favours FUE for large cases because of the larger lifetime donor. But, if a patient is aware of the limitations of FUE in that regard, I'm sure he'll perform FUE. Unless they're NW6 or something.

[mav23100gunther]

Not to detract from this thread either, but I don't know why anyone would go to Hasson & Wong for FUE (based on their inexperience in this area and lack of results) unless they are being offered massive discounts so H&W can promote their FUE. Not to say H&W won't become Kings of FUE in a few years time however.

 

Had no idea they were paying patients to practice, their website quotes a cost per graft of $8 for the first thousand, and then decreasing to $6. H&W are bad men, once they perfect FUE, they are going to be golden. What kills me is why would any well educated patient pay that amount of money to go with FUE with any American doctor, when proven FUE specialists like Lorenzo, Erdogan, and Feriduni charge less than $3 a graft. It absolutely blows my mind!

[FUE2014]

Wow thats a lot of money. Think Feriduni and Lorenzo are not that much cheaper though? I think Feriduni is closer to 5 euros a graft, but I may be wrong...

[KO]

I'm under the impression that Bisanga favours FUE for large cases because of the larger lifetime donor. But, if a patient is aware of the limitations of FUE in that regard, I'm sure he'll perform FUE. Unless they're NW6 or something.

Nope, he prefers FUE for people who have great donor areas, for the "average" high NW patient, he prefers FUT. For example, stinger99 had a very strong donor area. Dr B, while he does a lot of FUE, pretty much agrees with the mainstream on the pros/cons of FUE vs FUT. I bet even Feriduni does the same. Just look at his portfolio, most of his high NW patients are FUT.

[Dr Blake Bloxham]

KO,

 

Yup. Nailed it. Anyone who performs both obviously feels this way -- or, by definition, they wouldn't perform both. Most just aren't as active on the forums.

[delancey]

Nope, he prefers FUE for people who have great donor areas, for the "average" high NW patient, he prefers FUT. For example, stinger99 had a very strong donor area. Dr B, while he does a lot of FUE, pretty much agrees with the mainstream on the pros/cons of FUE vs FUT. I bet even Feriduni does the same. Just look at his portfolio, most of his high NW patients are FUT.

 

Dr. Feriduni does not recommend strip surgery in men under the age of 30.

[Swooping]

In opinion, the only thing that Dr. Feller has done is show the online community that he is not confident in his FUE ability. Of course FUE yield would be bad in the hands of Dr. Feller, he has openly admitted that he sucks at it.

 

So basically we have someone who knows that he is bad at FUE telling the rest of us (many who have had successful FUE) that the procedure is flawed. When in reality it's Dr. Feller's FUE technique that is flawed.

 

Dr. Feller can't do FUE by his own admission.

 

Spot on. There is no shame in that though. Let's be honest not many practitioners can perform FUE to the highest level.

[tommygun]

You're ok at strip Dr. Feller. I've seen your work in person. Hairline work is ok. No doubles. Nice irregular pattern. Crappy design in my opinion though. I would not rate you as an A-list hair transplant doctor. Most would agree on this form. But a solid B-list.

 

With the likes of Bernstein and Rassman. You won't get a botched hair transplant... but don't expect a home run either. Just average. My 65 year old dad would be happy.

 

That brings me to something... why does your signature and website say you offer FUE when you're so against it?

 

I disagree. While often polarizing in opinion, his results warrant an A Class rating in my book.

[destorius]

Hey lileli,

 

Discussed on another thread. Dr. Hasson has no FUE results but is charging guys top dollar to practice on their head in my opinion. Basically riding the popularity of his FUT..

 

Sorry how do you know this? Are you working at the clinic? What you mean is that he hasn't published cases online. He might have done plenty of cases (which being a top surgeon I would expect) in private and even taken photos to show prospective patients. My point is you don't know so I suggest you don't make accusations.

[destorius]

Had no idea they were paying patients to practice, their website quotes a cost per graft of $8 for the first thousand, and then decreasing to $6. H&W are bad men, once they perfect FUE, they are going to be golden. What kills me is why would any well educated patient pay that amount of money to go with FUE with any American doctor, when proven FUE specialists like Lorenzo, Erdogan, and Feriduni charge less than $3 a graft. It absolutely blows my mind!

 

I think it is about €6 which is prob $7-8?

[Spidey]

Hey lileli,

 

Discussed on another thread. Dr. Hasson has no FUE results but is charging guys top dollar to practice on their head in my opinion. Basically riding the popularity of his FUT..

 

Don't want to take this thread away from Dr. Feller though. I've grabbed some popcorn and about to watch one of his videos.

 

get over it. I don't understand why you are so concerned about certain Drs offering FUE. You haven't even had a HT yourself, and you are making accusations and uninformed opinions about different companies. It's not your money or your head. What decisions other people make is up to them.

[lileli]

Ok guys let's cut the arguments