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Is anyone selling a good minox/tret foam or liquid?

This area can be seen to be quite thin in one of the first set of pics you posted. I'm kind of surprised, for 3100 grafts you guys tried to cover a very large area. Even still, I would have expected better yield at this point. You still do have lots of time left to grow though. What was the discussion like when you and Gur were planning the surgery? Did you request you wanted the 3100 grafts spread out to give some density all over?

Not so much. Cartel higher ups highly discourage their underlings from targeting American's. They don't want the US government on their back causing issues for their business, and they know going after American's is a surefire way to bring that sort of heat down on them. The last thing they want is some American getting killed or robbed.

Thanks I'll check those out. I recently came across a video recommending Gelatin powder in place of whey so I ordered up some "great lakes grassfed beef gelatin" to give it a shot.

Great write up. I actually got a bit nostalgic reading it because my experience, like yours, was extremely pleasant and actually quite fun. I also remember being impressed with how quiet and focused his techs were. I'm not kidding when I say "monk-like" is a good description of them - very confidence inspiring on a day when you have a lot going on in your head. Like you I also remembering being impressed at Nader's insistence that I send him regular updates. I've actually sent him hardly any just because I feel like he probably gets inundated with them, and I also haven't had any reason for concern, so I figured I'd hold off until month 9 or so before shooting him an update. The few times I did text him in the first month he responded same day. Great write up and very comprehensive reference for future patients on what it's like on surgery day with Nader. Happy growing!

There's been a lot of discussion recently about this video in the thread below. I'm a topical Min user, and frankly despite what Kevin says about the safety of topical I'm even concerned with how much goes systemic just from topical application with no microneedling. Especially because I usually just use enough to cover the entire "area of concern" instead of only using to like the half a cap full that I believe is recommended on the bottle. I guess the question is how much topical is equivalent to say 0.5 mg of oral in terms of systemic absorption? BTW, thanks for the recommendation on the Slick Gorilla styling powder. Worked great to reduce the frizzines both in my transplanted hair and native hair and makes it easier to style.

To be fair, in your case there is really no "evidence" that you had serious side effects. I'm not saying you didn't by any means, but your case isn't as clear cut as the South African woman.

Kevin shows this quote from the paper in his video. To me, this reads that anyone taking OM taking for less than 3 months was excluded from being observed in the study. Otherwise the range would be 0-79 months? I’m happy to be wrong here (And even happier for my chume Kevin to be wrong) but I don’t see anything in the above texts that addresses his question.

Well, it just means that anyone who stopped prior to being on it for 3 months weren't included in the study. There was some talk about this in a thread a few weeks back around the confusion of who was and wasn't included in that study.

Which studies? The one most people mention is the one of approximately 1400 patients, but I'm pretty sure they only looked at patients who had already been using OM for 3 months.

Does whey wreak havoc on anyone else's digestive system? I've even bought an expensive one that is supposed to be easier on digestion, but no luck

@ArochaAngel4247 This patient had a previous HT in his hairline it looks like?

Yes I'm 8 months post op with Nader. Long waitlist is a sign of a good surgeon.

Not only that, if you message some of these clinics on Whatsapp one time you end up needing to block them because they will forever hound you with messages. Whereas if a Dr is bad or slow at responding back it probably means they're super involved in the process and thus don't have the ability to "scale up", and also aren't hungry for business because they are fully booked.

Maybe it's because I'm a Naderite, but it's always seemed like a green flag when a surgeon gets by with minimal social media/web presence. If you're running a successful HT clinic with little web presence it speaks to the fact that your results are good enough that you're getting enough business on word of mouth and don't need to go fishing for prospective clients.

@asterix0 It's a bit hard to make a judgement seeing as how in the above pic you are 4 days from having 1300 grafts removed. I don't doubt the validity of your point, but it's hard to make a judgement based on this pic due to the recentness of the operation. So as you said in original post, would be good to see some other cases that aren't so immediately post op.

Agree, @asterix0 would be very useful for us all if you could share pictures.

I'm not sure, that's why I was asking you! They both seem pretty awesome, @Grant Giller result with Gur looked really great.

Why Turan over Gur?

Interesting thanks for clarifying. I've been using the slick gorilla seal salt spray but have recently moved to an aerosol based high hold hair spray to "lock" the style in better. Just yesterday I purchased the slick gorilla powder and am excited to give that a try.

Would you mind elaborating on this a bit more? Do you get a bit of the "Birds nest" effect when not styled? I'm about 8 months post-op and also am dealing with some hard to tame hairs in my crown especially when fresh off a shampoo. I know this is very normal for 8 months but I'm curious to hear your experience as far as whether it was all of the transplanted hairs that are hard to tame or only certain areas, and whether it went away with time after your 1st transplant.

This is a very healthy outlook and is generally why I think most guys shouldn't get HT's until they're pretty far gone where what they get in a first pass is a major aesthetic improvement. There was a case of a guy on here who was NW2 and got I think 2000 grafts to fix his hairline and give him temples points, and he ended up being disappointed with the result and feeling like he needed a 2nd pass more density. HT's will not return you to your "heyday" in a single pass. I think people get caught in a trap of chasing the ideal hairline with ideal density and it's really not a great idea unless you have tons of money in the bank.

Have you had a HT? They do not return you to your "heyday", at least not in a single pass.

Any acid reflux in your past?

I think he was replying to jfally's comment not yours. I am a big believer in the nocebo effect. Hell, I'm such a hippy that I even believe in the power on manifesting outcomes via your own thoughts in terms of say your career or your relationships (Shoutout to the Monroe Insitute). On the other hand, I also believe that it's quite possible that it's not a great idea to be taking a medication for baldness that was originally designed for hypertension, only for it to be basically discontinued for that purpose due to side effects (Albeit at higher doses). We walk a fine line here, chumes!